just can set the power limit for what the 120AIO can handle right?

That’s what im doing right now, altho it would mean i will be wasting a Z board’s potential haha. anyways, K series cpus have better bins too so could use it as an advantage for undervolting.

I chose the 10400F because I need to get out of ryzen 3600 and rocketlake’s launch is still far away... and it is super cheap too at rm609 brand new. If rocketlake wasnt announced, i wouldve gone with 10700k.

It is only meant to be a filler but damn, Im impressed with this cheap CPU. I could even wait until rocketlake’s price slash when alderlake is announced to upgrade lol.

just run as stock and disable the unlimited powerrr mode. 120mm aio or even a hyper212 can handle a 10900k.

This post has been edited by Bonchi: Mar 6 2021, 11:09 PM

Im using 3700x too, just not in new mobo, MSI b350 mortar arctic, thanks to my lazyness and AMD AM4 socket upgradability ,my AIO is gigantic and is blocking a lot of things, i cound not find time to upgrade it.

I guess it's jsut bad luck then, i have USB disconnection too, just not that frequently.

i heard that what type of devices plugged in affects too and also the gpu and amount of sata drives. Because this problem seems to be an overloading issue and that the power settings is unable to sustain. That’s why disabling C state or turning the gen4 pcie and perhaps m.2 interface to gen3 helps to a certain extend. sadly these method doesnt work for me.

Sadly for me, I have a full sim racing rig with H shifter and handbrake, 2 external hdds, USB DAC and 2 keyboards. The dropoff issue happens immediately. I need to constantly manually connect and disconnect devices in order to get it to work.. just switching off the sim rig doesnt work as well. i must unplug the USB.

Even with unplugged USB

And you also proved that this issue is not specific to 500 series motherboards because i am also having USB drop offs with B450.

All the above, and the idle temp issue and some occasional crashes is why I changed to intel.

The issue wasnt that serious when I was using a GTX1070.. but when I upgraded to RTX2080, it started happening more frequently. I thought its PSU problem so I upgraded from 600w to 750w... end up no diff lol. Then when I thought it's the RTX2080 being faulty, I changed to RTX3080 and the problems gotten worse... to the point that the keyboard and mouse will randomly disconnect. Changed to B550 also didnt solve the problem. So I gave up.

This post has been edited by Bonchi: Mar 6 2021, 11:35 PM

so much money wasted changing this and that, not too budget cpu anymore

Why do you think im so pissed off with AMD ....... after 1 year of struggle and all the money wasted (sommore changed 3 rams kits all hynix cuz cannot afford Bdie) then only I saw that reddit announcement, a week after I changed to intel.

your testimony is making me having second thoughts about my decision
now I'm already stuck at Ryzen RAM XMP issue, not even usb issue yet

well, since you already own it then just try to solve it via bios or OC settings.. but DO NOT spend money to solve it. Changing components will not help much, especially motherboards and ram. That's my advice.

If all else fail then only think about changing to intel ... altho honestly, you can scalp with the ryzen at the moment lolol.

Changing to intel should be the last resort because frankly, the ryzen is indeed faster. It will be an all rounder better CPU if you could get it to work reliably. I was happy with my ryzen untill all these problem happen.

This post has been edited by Bonchi: Mar 7 2021, 12:09 AM

Use DRAM Calculator safe timings as a baseline, then tighten timings further and/or reduce voltages.

this is my gaming temp right now lol.. 28C ambient...even the chipset is 45C at load. "intel is hot"

My 10400F is already set to unlimited power, running at 4ghz all core boost and ram OCed to 3866c18.



This post has been edited by Bonchi: Mar 7 2021, 12:41 AM

RL first impression seems like a hot garbage. Better skip and go for 12 gen instead. Unless they can price it right.

topkek
you are running a 6 core cpu. it's the higher core count cpus that are hot.

nope.



sigh.

This post has been edited by cstkl1: Mar 7 2021, 09:26 AM

Lucky for me no USB drop off while playing Flight Sim on my Zen+ & X470 with USB connected to:
- Quest 2 HMD with data + video stream
- Joystick
- Controller
- DAC for headphone amp
- External PCIE SSD for video recording
- Keyboard & mouse (duh)

ryzen 3600, also 6 core. idle 38, gaming 67-72

oh.. prime 95, 10400F 67c avx2 67C ryzen 3600 avx2 83C.

10400F max out draws 100 and ryzen PPT 85w. As you can see here, powerdraw doesnt equal to temps.

oh forgot to mention, 10400F max fan speed is 1.6krpm, 3600 is 1.9krpm

AFAIK, after knowing that the temp of 10400F is so cold, I went to check with friends who have 10700 and 10900 to my surprise they all run pretty cool. Only exception to 10900 because of tvb.

they use intel stock cooler?

yup. 10700F can use those black coolers at 65w tdp. I am surprised it could handle it in gaming, only prime95 will look ugly. But to be fair, Ryzen 3600 also hit the Tjunction with wraith stealth which is a bigger heatsink in prime95.

But if course, with an RM1k cpu, you wont use the stock cooler even with the ryzen 3600. afaik hyper212 is enough to keep the 10700 below 80C


here’s an unpopular video. Conclusion, Intel is only hot when you overclock it beyond 5ghz on 10900K.

of course la. power limited.

basically every readers on wccftech / overclock.net forumers / pcmr daily-flex redditors


anyway, budget i5 4590 pc build


This post has been edited by Skylinestar: Mar 7 2021, 11:00 AM

power unlimited then 10700 will thermal throttle to 4.4ghz all core at 94C with a stock cooler.. still bloody good lol considering how tiny intel stock cooler is. meanwhile 10400 power unlimited no thorttle 4ghz all core at 80C with the silver stock cooler.

also note that 10900k 5ghz+ OC is all core but gaming temp will be 50 to 60C with 240mm aio even with 5ghz all core... just avx2 will look ugly at 90C+ in our weather.

It is unbelivable that intel is actually running cool with such powerdraw.

This post has been edited by Bonchi: Mar 7 2021, 11:23 AM

hahaha serious shit,

my lowly binned sp63 cstkl1-optimised 5.2ghz all core i9 10900K does similar during gaming (battlefront 2, COD titles and SWTOR MMORPG), 55-70C on other titles and on idle is far less at 30!

This post has been edited by Jedi: Mar 7 2021, 11:47 AM