Hmm. Then is 10700 (unlimited power) + b560 should be sufficient for only gaming usage. May I say that? Because I don’t really do multitask works a lot, no streaming whatsoever. Just gaming, YouTube and some offices. I know 3600 can handle these well enough. Incremental of percent of above mentioned vs 3600?

intel’s problem now is the cache size because they cant find enough space to fit it in due to 14nm. They can compete so closely in IPC even with this handicap... will really like to see what they can do with alderlake altho i will be skipping that due to ddr5

10700 is good enough for gaming. Can't go wrong with 8 cores.

3600 now rm890 at shops 10700F 1.1k. 3600 is pretty weak with gaming.

88W PPT vs 100W... The power reduction of Zen2 definitely won't beat the thermal density differences at these margins.

This post has been edited by yimingwuzere: Mar 7 2021, 12:53 PM

Many ppl still have misconceptions with intel temps.
It's NOT hot in normal usage and when gaming. That covers most of the users. Forget about what they say in those DUMB reviews.
I don't think they truely understand how intel cpu works and behave.
And power consumption, it doesn't really add much to the monthly power bills. I believe AC cost even more that the cpu power consumption. So forget that stupid argument abt intel power consumption.

This post has been edited by targon: Mar 7 2021, 01:27 PM

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/intel-cop...ocket-lake-cpus

I presume RKL is much more capable of getting 1:1 RAM speeds than 3733, and this is just an issue with early BIOSes for Z490?

@cstkl1 maybe you can chip in a bit on this (assuming whatever you know isn't under NDA)? I recall you mentioned that RKL can run at very high memory frequencies, but not sure if it's 1:1 or 1:2, or if it easily hits speeds that compensate for the 1:2 penalty.

I'm using the i7 10700 + MSI tomawhawk B series

performance stays at 4.5ghz at all times, yes you need a better cooler but for the price
not like the other side offering anything less.

what cooler you use and how is the temps like?

Alright. Looking forward B560 boards.

And yea, how’s the temp? Idle and gaming temp? Type of cooler that you’re using?

This post has been edited by keenie: Mar 7 2021, 05:01 PM

to be fair
i'm using Noctua DH-15 that i have bought years ago



on apex session, below 60c most of the time.
i probably recommend be quite cpu cooler or noctua n12 for budget friendly

lets update so toms idiocy to clickbait
idiots could have read this months ago as its on 10th gen mobile spec data sheet page 69

its 1:1 with mem controller with dram effective speed
meaning ram 3866 mem controller is 3866..
not 1933. the mem controller has stepping of 266
u can only use ram divider 100:133
btw again u can check this 11th gen mobile specsheet
theres no limit on 1:1 but it comes at very high sa/io

lets educate toms dufus
1:2 has zero bandwidth loss infact its higher.
u get hit in latency.

turnaround timings can be lowered so its performance boosted. hint RTL is 30s, 40s..

This post has been edited by cstkl1: Mar 7 2021, 08:03 PM

In a non AC room?

lower than 60C max power mode so can expect it to be this temp with 240mm aio. Nice. so perhaps 65-67C with a 120mm aio.

Good enouh, d15 almost equivalent to 240mm aio. My 280mm aio should be fine then. Your temp is below 60c, almost the same as my 3600 oc to 3.8 while gaming on warzone. Almost the same temp but 6 cores 3.8 vs 8 cores 4.6 hmmm.




Good enough for your case. Since you’re using itx.

real farking lazy reviewers
example hardwareunbox

they have the cpu nearly a month.. just tested day 1. stopped. will wait till release date to do game benches via intel guideline
because all so stupid to test the cpu

literally lazy .

This post has been edited by cstkl1: Mar 7 2021, 08:59 PM

means could even consider a 11900K because it’s 8core

If money is not an objection hehee. And you do need 11900k for your pc activities.

This post has been edited by keenie: Mar 7 2021, 09:35 PM

Steve went on holiday as per their video, seems he is the review guy.

I prefer Tim's work with reviewing though, he's less biased than Steve - Steve definitely has a bias towards Radeon cards.

a lazy basket right

personally 10900F become super tempting for RM1.5k. But will wait to see how big the gap between 11700k 11900k and 10900F