can't cross border due to covid. can only buy from shopee 

old ginger is always spicier. No matter how fast ryzen can be, Intel still gives the best assurance that everything will work as it should.
there are people actually trying to scalp intel too... like selling 10400F for rm900 lmao! little did they not know, lowyat is selling for RM609

10400F is indeed a remarkable value CPU, which is funny because the last time Intel was called value king was back in Ivy Bridge....

Also ironic that it took people nearly a year to realize this CPU's potential lol.

When did you get your RTX 3070, and which model was it + price? Got a friend hunting for a card.

that's because you're from <3000mhz to >3000mhz, that's where the significant difference are, but once you go above 3200mhz, you already reached the point of diminishing returns

yeap, which is why ctsk1 has been saying B560 +11700F (nonK) will be the deal of 2021... just because of the performance gain that can be had from memory scaling.
Just grab a decent 3200mhz stick with decent heatsinks and OC it... it' feels way easier to achieve on intel than AMD .. I got mine to 3933c18 but it needs 1.4v so I dropped it down to 3600c18 1.35v as I wanna keep it at 1.35v.

I guess im the odd one who defected to intel after using AMD for more than a year.

I was actually secretly an AMD’s fan boy all the time since athlon64 vs pentium4 and later phenoms and I finally joined the ryzen bandwagon again because it seems promising just to end up getting Royally Fked by AMD with their misleading specs, Unreachable claims and Bullshit parts and software compatibility requirements.

And i feel very guilty now for recommending a batch of AMD machine to a friend’s office who has zero tech knowledge which is also showing signs of WHEA errors. I can only tell her to restart machine whenever it happens.

b560 motherboard is not budget at all   

wow RM609 + 340 for a 10400F cpu+mobo.... that’s the same price as a R3600 cpu today

nop, can oc the ram just like on the z490. just the cpu multiplier option will be capped at 43.

ikr... how the tables have turned lol. not to mention 10400F is actually faster than 3900x in most gaming titles, and only a little behind 5800x for gaming... and 10400F actually has lower power draw and temps..


really good job with 10400F. Only if theyve allowed B460 to memory OC then things will be great earlier.

I kinda can vouch on the gaming performance as my port royale score and timespy graphic score became higher... RDO at st dennis no longer dip down below 60fps as compared to R3600.

1.35v 3600c18.... if 1.4v i can hit 3933c18 on the intel because no IF to kakacaucau on the stability.
But for both ryzen and intel, they are benched with the same ram at 3600mhz. so it’s kinda an equal test.

but now 10700F is RM1009. it does make one very itchy to go for that instead. with 4.8ghz and 2 more cores... and similar 65w tdp it might slap 5600x even in productivity while costing RM400 cheaper.

I held back my temptation with rocketlake lol.

from what i gathered, the crappy stock cooler is enough to keep the 10700F under 90C with avx loads. And for the non K, power is kinda capped at 65w PL1 so most board’s vrm is enough. even H410 boards.

intel’s effeciency under 4.5ghz seems very good. It only starts going out of control after crossing 5ghz.

there’s like zero detailed review about the 10700f haha.. apart from some youtube gaming fps figures. But after having this 10400f, I somehow feel the 10700f gonna be some super underated cpu. Which will be kinda putting the rocketlake 11700F in a similar spot..... I’m looking forward to dropping a 11700F next when the price comes down to 1.2k.

yeap i also found some info. seems 160w is enough to let it stay at 4.8ghz constant. That’s about the same power consumption as a 8700K. 65w will be 3.6ghz all core and 125W will be 4.4ghz all core... which explains the 25% difference.

Not bad at all.. a simple RM50 snowman cooler should be able to handle this.

For full speed I'd agree with the 240mm liquid cooler being a minimum, or maybe a really good air cooler. I am no cooler expert. I played with a 10700 with a 120mm Corsair H60 mounted as a rear exhaust. It was a quiet mATX build for my dad, but of course I had to mess with it. That setup would do 185W with the proc at 85C and Noctua fans at 1500rpm. Realistically you can set the 10700 to a bit over 170W and not lose any real world performance unless you have an AVX heavy load. Stress tests with AVX disabled topped out at 4.6GHz on all cores and 170W... or maybe a little less. I only tested in 15W increments. At any rate, 170W or so + a bit extra for some AVX should do it for gaming and most other apps. A 120mm can pull that off with a little too much fan noise, so I'd think a 240mm ought to be ok.

The one I played with ran at 3.3GHz at 65W in a 16 thread Prime95 small FFT stress test with AVX off. With AVX2 enabled it would run at 2.7GHz at 65W. I'm not sure where the 2.9GHz base frequency came from unless the setting on the MSI MAG B460 Mortar WiFi provides more power than it says it does. One thing I didn't try was lowering the power limit below 65W.

Exactly. Back then Intel i5-9400 with or 9600K really can't fight value of R5 3600 + B450 motherboard.
Anyway, whatever it turn out, Intel AMD and Nvidia are all laughing to the bank these two years.