will be quite obvious in gaming.. for my 10400F 2666 to 3600mhz, it’s around 10-15% fps increase depending on title... especially the minimum fps which will matter quite alot.

I think that is more applicable on ryzen which is reliant to the IF clock ratio. Intel kinda scales better with faster kits thus even 3200mhz to 3600mhz is also quite noticeable on intel... the diminishing returns is more on the cost rather than clock vs performance.... well I could be wrong as i've just started messing with the newer gen intels and just purely based on observation from my ram sticks 2666>3200(xmp)>3600mhz(OC 1.35v)

But if you could get it for free through overclocking then it's really worth the shot trying to hit 4400mhz... provided you could keep the ram cool/stable.

because I remembered 10900k with very high speed RAM can trade blows with zen 3 with the same high speed rams. Way beyond the performance of 3200mhz ram on those systems.

I think on 8700k oced the gaming fps can be like 5% too. So for rocket lake maybe it'll be more noticeable? I saw those ram have prices like ~RM750 for 4400Mhz CL19 8GB x2 sets

bruh.. that thermalright cooler cannot even cool the nehalem i7 920 suffeciently lol. You can say it performs like a modern 120mm aio at best. It even got replaced by sunbeam CCF in its era.

So 60-70C flutter with avx2 load is damn good. For comparison, a ryzen 3600 hits 75C on a 120mm aio with 20C ambient.

And this early version weak gaming benchmark was uncovered by bilibili that the gpu is running on pcie gen1, and they couldnt do anything on the bios to make it gen4 because the bios is not yet finalized.

I think they made a followup video with a newer bios that works, but the gpu memory bandwith is half or something when compared to 10900k on the same board. Meaning there’s still alot of performance still being locked away.

and even in their gaming benchmark, can see the intel cpu, even the 10900k is actually running 10C cooler in games.

heck.. even a china newtuber is doing a much better job at reviewing than anandtech. At least theyre unbias and honest enough to find out why there’s a performance drop from last gen.

it’s rated 130w tdp bro.. higher than even 10900k. easily hitting 280-300w draw at stock back in the days... but because it is 45nm, the heat is not that high because the die is not as dense as today’s and the temp spikes are lower.

So in a way, we bash 14nm, but not knowing the reality of  moving to 10 or  7nm will cause the die to run much much hotter. Seems like everyone forgotten about nvidia fermi on the side effects of die shrinking.

i heard that what type of devices plugged in affects too and also the gpu and amount of sata drives. Because this problem seems to be an overloading issue and that the power settings is unable to sustain. That’s why disabling C state or turning the gen4 pcie and perhaps m.2 interface to gen3 helps to a certain extend. sadly these method doesnt work for me.

Sadly for me, I have a full sim racing rig with H shifter and handbrake, 2 external hdds, USB DAC and 2 keyboards. The dropoff issue happens immediately. I need to constantly manually connect and disconnect devices in order to get it to work.. just switching off the sim rig doesnt work as well. i must unplug the USB.

Even with unplugged USB

And you also proved that this issue is not specific to 500 series motherboards because i am also having USB drop offs with B450.

All the above, and the idle temp issue and some occasional crashes is why I changed to intel.

The issue wasnt that serious when I was using a GTX1070.. but when I upgraded to RTX2080, it started happening more frequently. I thought its PSU problem so I upgraded from 600w to 750w... end up no diff lol. Then when I thought it's the RTX2080 being faulty, I changed to RTX3080 and the problems gotten worse... to the point that the keyboard and mouse will randomly disconnect. Changed to B550 also didnt solve the problem. So I gave up.

Makes me wonder 11700k and 11900k.
Both unlocked 8 cores parts, slightly performance deficit between the two but abt 600+ bucks difference between the two.