owell means wont be able to get one before i leave..


Playing around with RAM OC and mannnn 10400F semi load at 45C?

And dunno why 3800mhz not available on this MSI mobo, so went with 3866 cl18 1.4V

seems like my 10400F will be very short lived if I can buy a 11600K without a bundle. However I think it is very unlikely for now.

But NDA end of March.... I wont be in malaysia anymore. Hopefully where im going, the shops wont force bundle purchases.

usually flagships will be launched first iinm, so other CPUs will be out later so im not surprised... heck i could even wait it out till next year to upgrade afterall since this 10400F is rocking real fine...especially after hitting a 3866mhz ram OC (10passes on memtest) on a stick that was seemingly unstable on ryzen.

But for 11900K it'll be all down to the pricing. If it's cheaper than 10900K because of the core counts and 5800X due to price inflation..... it will be epic.

in the mandarin narration she did say it's an ES cpu and unofficial bios so probably not optimized.. and when the official release they will test again.
But on general performance bench test that doesnt require much mrc code optimization like games, hnghhhhhhhh. and that 5800X is on PBO, so yeah.... super impressive for 14nm.

QS but anyway...
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https://hardforum.com/threads/make-intel-gr...review.2007968/

i thought many months ago, they already replace the supplies to aib with the v2 already? the v1 i heard has no fix at all except praying that a driver reinstall will fix it.. or just running at 1Gbps. So those that end up getting an old stock with this faulty controller is damn unlucky.

But then again, this is more to do with the networking department rather than cpu department.

That CPU cooler looks worse than the 10700 stock one. Pity the reviewer never did demo dual channel performance, nor did he check other miscelleanous details such as:

1) PSU form factor size - is it FlexATX?
2) Is the mobo Z490 or H470/B460?
Long running issue, if anyone uses 2.5GBe LAN they're safer with Realtek on both Intel Z490 and AMD B550 boards.

Almost all Intel CPUs are on sale now. They are clearing stock before Rocket Lake arrives.

Core i5-10600K at RM968:
https://shopee.com.my/Intel%C2%AE-Core%E2%8...4261.2250918363

Core i7-10700K at RM1465:
https://shopee.com.my/Intel%C2%AE-Core%E2%8...6592.7237447773

Core i9-10900K at RM1856:
https://shopee.com.my/-Limited-Edition-Inte...4261.6953319165

ermagod ... altho i think i should be patient and wait for rocketlake lmao.

And those prices are actually higher than what i was quoted at lowyat (with mobo bundle) 10700K was 1.3K++ 10900K is the same, but 10600K is 950++ and 10400F is RM609.

Intel prices moves a lot. It depends on USD.

ebucket selling local set or grey import set? i haven't bought any item from them before. i know some cheap shopee sellers sell china imports (no malaysia warranty)

yeaweh..10900F for 1.5K ... kinda already boosts to 5.2ghz, not necessary need to overclock, put PL1 to unlimited and can enjoy decent 4.6ghz all core... currently same price as 5600X 

https://www.anandtech.com/show/16535/intel-...-rocket-lake/19

11700K really seems disappointing without overclocking. The memory latency regressions vs Comet Lake means 5800X still easily beats it in gaming.

Power consumption when TDP is ignored, without manual core multiplier settings is also worse than Comet Lake - 225W for most work, 290W for AVX-512. Although to be fair, it's the only desktop chip that does AVX-512 right now.

Given the leaked pricing, I think the 8-cores appear to be a bust, 6-core value chips is where RKL will shine the most as it's much more competitively priced against the 5600X there.

RIP from the start.

they used to be rather credible.. not sure what happened. Now it’s just a page full of shit.

But looking at the bright side.... that means intel have tonnes of stock ready since they already started shipping so many days ahead of launch. So by the time of launch, there should be enough... unlike AMD, having only like 10 pieces available at launch lololol

the thermalright ultra 120 used in the review is probably as good as a modern 120mm aio which means i can very likely use a 10700k in my itx as long as i dont touch avx512.. avx2 @80C+ is as hot as my ryzen 3000 lolol.

One thing i cannot really brain in this review is... why use a 2006 cooler in 2021

the fact that they use avx512 to compare with avx2 workload already very questionable. Why they never put avx2 vs avs2 with an AMD 5800x or even a 3600x with the same cooler?

and for being such a big hardware reviewer site... why use a 10+ year old cooler siot.... i remember my 4c8t i7 920 goes to 80C with this cooler. Not a smart choice for a cooler.

wow will it hit 105 while gaming? or will gaming use this AVX512?
Looking at their site, seem like i7-11700K isn't that better for gaming compared to i7-10700k.
Wait to see how will the cheaper i7-11700 + B560 do...

Well, there is no such thing as good or bad now, but "in stock", "scalper rate" or "no stock".
AMD doesn't have AVX-512, hence why I also quoted ~220W for non AVX-512 workload (Povray), that's still a small regression from previous gen 10700K though.
Thing is - AT has the Intel NDA press sheet per their notice on the first page of the review. I doubt Intel didn't seed them with review units for launch day.

Even the tested motherboard for 10700K/11700K appears to be a NDA restricted Z590 one. I suspect it's not ASUS since the board is mentioned to use infinite turbo mode instead of following Tau duration, and Asus (at least for most of their X570/B550 range) is strictest with following the CPU default boosting behaviour.

I shouldn't have meant memory regression, rather core-to-core and L3 latency (see the last page of the review). Intel's Skylake to Comet Lake gaming advantage vs Zen2 was mostly due to Zen2 having worse latencies for both, and one of the reasons why AMD hypes the CCD design in Zen3 so much as it helps close the latency gap between their CPUs and Intel's.
Well they mentioned that they recommend using AVX-512 offset when overclocking, which seems to be the better solution than disabling it altogether in the rare instance that users can utilize AVX-512.
No, the 290W workload was only when using AVX-512.

topkek
you are running a 6 core cpu. it's the higher core count cpus that are hot.

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/intel-cop...ocket-lake-cpus

I presume RKL is much more capable of getting 1:1 RAM speeds than 3733, and this is just an issue with early BIOSes for Z490?

@cstkl1 maybe you can chip in a bit on this (assuming whatever you know isn't under NDA)? I recall you mentioned that RKL can run at very high memory frequencies, but not sure if it's 1:1 or 1:2, or if it easily hits speeds that compensate for the 1:2 penalty.