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post Feb 21 2021, 08:07 PM

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QUOTE(yushin @ Feb 21 2021, 02:12 PM)
I'm surprised my old i7-7700k still worth rm1k in taobao... this cpu is the legendary type?
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those seller are probably hoping for those upgrading from 7th gen i3 & i5 user to upgrade, no one sane will buy the 7700k at RM1k over the current i3-10100 no matter what extra fps it will bring to the table.
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post Feb 21 2021, 09:20 PM

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QUOTE(Fjive @ Feb 21 2021, 06:31 PM)
Congratz on the new built! Which 3070 did you get and how much it cost since it was bundled with full rig?
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Zotac RTX3070 holo 2 fan. About rm3.3k.
Thats the only one left in the shop. blush.gif

I was thinking might as well upgrade my 3 year old machine rather than buying it from Lazada at 5k.

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post Feb 21 2021, 11:04 PM

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i'm thinking of buying my father an upgrade later in the year if prices and stock situation normalise.

Prefer to go Intel since I believe intel to be more stable out of the box and my father isn't the type to tweak in the settings / bios etc.

He only uses his computer for Microsoft word documents, excel spreadsheets, a little bit of video editing and just for zoom meetings.

The old family computer is still using pentium core 2 duo E2160.

I'm thinking of getting him a core I3 10100 with 2x4 gb DDR4-2666 ram but im not familiar with Intel mobo lineup.

Any advice is appreciated.
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post Feb 21 2021, 11:36 PM

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QUOTE(cnpats @ Feb 21 2021, 11:04 PM)
i'm thinking of buying my father an upgrade later in the year if prices and stock situation normalise.

Prefer to go Intel since I believe intel to be more stable out of the box and my father isn't the type to tweak in the settings / bios etc.

He only uses his computer for Microsoft word documents, excel spreadsheets, a little bit of video editing and just for zoom meetings.

The old family computer is still using pentium core 2 duo E2160.

I'm thinking of getting him a core I3 10100 with 2x4 gb DDR4-2666 ram but im not familiar with Intel mobo lineup.

Any advice is appreciated.
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H410. all less than RM300. Should be good enough for his needs for a good 4 years if you get him 16GB ram, just get value rams... doesnt cost much.
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QUOTE(Bonchi @ Feb 21 2021, 11:36 PM)
H410. all less than RM300. Should be good enough for his needs for a good 4 years if you get him 16GB ram, just get value rams... doesnt cost much.
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Thanks, I will look for h410 boards. Is it worth the extra money to bump up to b460?
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post Feb 22 2021, 10:54 AM

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QUOTE(cnpats @ Feb 22 2021, 10:12 AM)
Thanks, I will look for h410 boards. Is it worth the extra money to bump up to b460?
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no if you only use an i3 10100
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post Feb 22 2021, 02:46 PM

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11th gen nda shifted 30th march
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post Feb 22 2021, 03:43 PM

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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Feb 22 2021, 02:46 PM)
11th gen nda shifted 30th march
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owell means wont be able to get one before i leave..

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Playing around with RAM OC and mannnn 10400F semi load at 45C?

And dunno why 3800mhz not available on this MSI mobo, so went with 3866 cl18 1.4V

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post Feb 22 2021, 03:49 PM

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fuh now even got the new boxed 10105f on sale in malaysia, rm369 in kk, 0.1Ghz higher clock than 10100f. Faster than i7 7700, insane budget cpu.

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QUOTE(terradrive @ Feb 22 2021, 03:49 PM)
fuh now even got the new boxed 10105f on sale in malaysia, rm369 in kk, 0.1Ghz higher clock than 10100f. Faster than i7 7700, insane budget cpu.
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Wasn't that the 10100F is just slightly slower than the 10105F, and costs RM40 less? hmm.gif
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Potentially the best value gaming CPU of 2021? brows.gif

https://videocardz.com/newz/intel-core-i5-1...-core-benchmark

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post Feb 22 2021, 05:16 PM

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QUOTE(chocobo7779 @ Feb 22 2021, 05:02 PM)
Potentially the best value gaming CPU of 2021? brows.gif

https://videocardz.com/newz/intel-core-i5-1...-core-benchmark
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What might be interesting is that the cheapest Rocket Lake-S CPU is already faster in single-core benchmark than any Comet Lake-S CPU.

Hope this comes out true.
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post Feb 22 2021, 06:26 PM

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QUOTE(Skylinestar @ Feb 22 2021, 06:02 PM)
Hope this comes out true.
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infacr it’s most likely understated. When it’s out with faster ram, unlocked powerlimit, increased ring ratio.. it could be faster.
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post Feb 22 2021, 06:30 PM

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QUOTE(Bonchi @ Feb 22 2021, 03:43 PM)
owell means wont be able to get one before i leave..

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Playing around with RAM OC and mannnn 10400F semi load at 45C?

And dunno why 3800mhz not available on this MSI mobo, so went with 3866 cl18 1.4V
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not bad. tighten the third timings. intel its called as turnaround timings. thats where the performance lies.

you might as well get used to that
rkl 1:1 gearing .. the imc clock stepping is every 266
so only 100:133 works

1:2 both works.

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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Feb 22 2021, 06:30 PM)
not bad. tighten the third timings. intel its called as turnaround timings. thats where the performance lies.

you might as well get used to that
rkl 1:1 gearing .. the imc clock stepping is every 266
so only 100:133 works

1:2 both works.
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sadly cant tighten anymore with a 1.4v cap, infact trfc have to increase to 800 because it errored on the 3rd hour in this HKEPC test. Now I let it run a proper memtest86, currently on 2nd pass.

Just the behavior of this micron B die D9XPF that doesnt like tight timings. But reaching this damn good already... afterall i spent 120SGD on this 32gb ram kit.... This price cannot even buy a basic trident Z 16gb kit lol.

Noted. Thanks for explaining on the stepping. Now learning from scratch after leaving AMD for intel.

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post Feb 23 2021, 07:23 PM

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QUOTE(chocobo7779 @ Feb 22 2021, 05:02 PM)
Potentially the best value gaming CPU of 2021? brows.gif

https://videocardz.com/newz/intel-core-i5-1...-core-benchmark
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Pretty sure Ryzen + RKL numbers are grossly overestimated by Geekbench vs Comet Lake, the score difference between 11400 and 5600X vs 10400 is wildly overstated vs Intel and AMD's given numbers for performance gains.
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post Feb 23 2021, 10:13 PM

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11900k all core changed.

they are bonkers.
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post Feb 23 2021, 10:15 PM

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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Feb 23 2021, 10:13 PM)
11900k all core changed.

they are bonkers.
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seems like my 10400F will be very short lived if I can buy a 11600K without a bundle. However I think it is very unlikely for now.

But NDA end of March.... I wont be in malaysia anymore. Hopefully where im going, the shops wont force bundle purchases.

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QUOTE(Bonchi @ Feb 23 2021, 10:15 PM)
seems like my 10400F will be very short lived if I can buy a 11600K without a bundle. However I think it is very unlikely for now.

But NDA end of March.... I wont be in malaysia anymore. Hopefully where im going, the shops wont force bundle purchases.
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i dont know whether all the orher cpu affected or not

but 11900k multicore = 10900k now
but da heat. unless the a new revision rumour is true hmm

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