I think the 10700F is great as a budget workstation/gaming CPU though

This post has been edited by chocobo7779: Feb 20 2021, 07:58 PM

Also, VRMs are designed to handle very high temps, usually up to 150C, but it's advisable to keep it under 100C for longevity (ideally VRM temps under 80/90C are best)

Ryzen is picky on ram is because it has a crappy IMC. my ram is on the QVL but again, QVL also wont guarantee it’ll work either. It also crashed at 2444mhz so it’s no longer an issue about overclocking. The BSOD leads to kernel error leading to driver data being corrupted... so it’s more likely related to agesa and the chipset.

Your use case and my use case plus external devices im using is different. Having gone through 2 whole ryzen rig and still have the same problems means It’s a ryzen problem that was not acknowledge. Because it’s totaly ilogical that the same windows 10 software and devices i use works on intel but not AMD.

I actually receieved a bunch of PM here asking for solutions on some of the issues and Ive share on what i could solve. So im actually not alone. But as time goes by, I lost patience and faith.. so that’s how i bite the bullet, Sold my ryzen rig with a few weeks old upgraded B550 mobo at a RM400 loss and went with intel.

After reading the comments here, I've decide to get a 10700 (maybe k) for my upgrade later.
Too old and no time to try debug the possible AMD compatibility issue, I just want a stable rig.

currently I'm using i7-7700k.

It's a great value cpu.

just get straight a 10700kf . at 1299 , u can't go wrong with that. Repeat here: it's not hot cpu when gaming.

AMD has finally admitted on their problem which I have been left in the dark trying to solve for so long... so yeah, screw AMD. Go for intel, they tend to fix stuff much faster than AMD too if there's anything wrong because of the reliance from corporate users and the high tendency of getting sued which makes intel super stable.

If you are only gaming and doesn't do anything multithreaded it might be best to overclock the CPU first

The difference between the 7700K and the 10700K isn't that much if you only consider single threaded performance:
https://www.cpu-monkey.com/en/compare_cpu-i...re_i7_7700k-664

IMHO if you still insist on an upgrade it's either go for the upcoming 11700K, or wait for Alder Lake instead (if you are willing to put up with potential issues of first generation hardware, as it will use DDR5 and a unique core/thread count)

Yeah, at the very least Ryzen 3000 did have a much improved IMC, but the issue is that Intel's IMC and their mesh architecture is just too good to say the least (it's not very uncommon for Comet Lake platforms to achieve very high RAM speeds)

AMD is actually faster due to their larger cache.... because their chips have enough space to cramp a larger cache etc for being a 7nm fab. But yeah, hopefully alderlake will be the answer.

Well my 32GB easily reached 3933Mhz but because my low profile sticks will run a little hot, I stay at 1.35v 3600mhz. Rams are too expensive now to consider upgrading.

ASRock's LGA1200 lineup are not very good especially from a VRM standpoint; might want to look at offerings from ASUS/MSI/Gigabyte instead

MSI's B560 lineup doesn't look half bad though

This post has been edited by chocobo7779: Feb 21 2021, 01:41 AM

To be fair though the ROG Strix B550 has VRMs (probably overkill for most people unless you have high end cooling) and feature set that can rival some high end X570 boards

But on the other note however those uber-high end B550/B560 boards are not worth it, especially you can buy a more midrange X570/Z490/Z590 which has more features (like CPU overclocking and more expansion capabilities), and the trade off is usually just slightly worse VRMs (which isn't going to matter for a lot of people unless you are overclocking the CPU heavily)

Well it's ASUS and their ROG tax, so what do you expect?

A 11400F + good B560 board would be a seriously good combo for a gaming machine though

Too bad the GPU market is severely supply starved so there's not much point building one either

This post has been edited by chocobo7779: Feb 21 2021, 01:50 AM

Just hope the shop got stock lar. Prefer a cool cpu as I will be using a small casing and a 3070.
Nowadays got money also cannot buy things

what type of cooler you intend to use?

I bought the whole set from czone just now, with RTX3070 haha.
cooler i choose is ID-cooling SE-255-XT.
Shop says more than enough for me liao coz he know i dont play OC.

I'm surprised my old i7-7700k still worth rm1k in taobao... this cpu is the legendary type?

any intel i7 holds its value extremely well (like an iphone)
it also means upgrading from a lower end cpu to i7 (skylake/kabylake) is an extremely bad idea unless you can get the i7 cpu for free.

that cooler should be enough.

The reason why old intel chips still cost alot because of limited stocks and there are plenty of demand from office pc that can still use those old intel cpu as spare parts.

Congratz on the new built! Which 3070 did you get and how much it cost since it was bundled with full rig?