H410. all less than RM300. Should be good enough for his needs for a good 4 years if you get him 16GB ram, just get value rams... doesnt cost much.

All non K 13th gen will be alderlake. If upgrading next year better just wait for another 9-10 months for 14th gen unless you cannot tahan AMD's shit any longer.

Well if it's 3600, even an older intel 9600K can get more gaming performance out of the GPU... so anything is an upgrade but for now, best just hold on till 14th gen or throw in a stop-gap with 5600x if desperate.

Rumours but if really delay then just wait a little bit longer for meteorlake, wont hurt if just a few more months.

Confirm will be alderlake but with additional 4 e-cores and some clock optimization, so will still be a very significant jump over the previous 12400 which has no e-cores

Core count very similar to Alderlake ie 13700 is rebrand of 12900, etc
https://wccftech.com/intel-13th-gen-non-k-c...-core-i5-13400/

Hoping for B760 to be affordable? Boy do I have some bad news
https://www.guru3d.com/news-story/reportedl...-than-b660.html

B760 price will be 10% higher.
https://www.tomshardware.com/news/b760-reci...cent-price-hike

That's just official specs.

You can load the XMP in BIOS.

If cost is ur concern, can oso get B660 / 660M mobos and get the shop to flash in 13th gen compatible bios.

External factors we cant do much but if DDR5 prices are too high then get DDR4. There is little tangible difference for everyday use case unless its for productivity or competitive gaming. If you can hold out then hold out as tech always gets refreshed but if need to buy now and u concern on the pricing, there is nothing wrong with going for a 1 generation older platform which is still compatible with latest released CPUS.

What is ur use case that would select such a strange pairing?
High end mobo + cheaper DDR4
vs
Mid end mobo + expensive DDR5

Cost-wise its going to be about the same, so u will trade off something going either ways. Then if cost is no problem why not Z90M + DDR5?

I had already set PL1 to 125w and PL2 to a lowered 200w initially. However, with the more acceptable temperatures, I can set PL2 to 253w again.

And after more googling today, realized that for raptor lake, PL1 = PL2 = 253w! Going to set my PL1 to 200w so that it is lower than my cooler tdp of 220w.

But yeah, the gigabyte aorus looks tempting. And price difference not that much from mine. The asus mobo, wow the price! But my cheapo mobo not cheap to begin with. Will just stick to this mobo for now. Quite happy with the temps for now so won't consider the contact frame either. 2 reasons - quite tricky installing the frame (screw tightness important) and the design is more for alderlake although it supposedly can be used for raptorlake.

And yes, my cheapo mobo.... after learning about AC DC loadline, I cannot even set it because it is not in the bios! Lol! So I am losing out another 2 things for this cheapo mobo that could have made the temps even better. Cannot set VF curve. Cannot set AC DC loadline.

Anyway, scatterbench has some new info on setting the buggy VF curves. Will try it one of these days. I also asked intel support on the reason why the vf curve settings are not showing up on Intel XTU.

Actually this also applies to Alderlakes, but only certain brand of mobo ie Asus, that can set unlimited PL1 & PL2, or else like MSI B660 can set up to 200W, but I think there will be a temp/power/GHZ limit that a CPU can boost up to.

humbly requesting for a link?
and may I know where do we check for the components prices nowadays? I usually go to shp/lzd

Many moons ago, lyn gain popularity coz they have a collection of price list from the vendors in lyp.

13400F has a max turbo of 4.6GHZ at 154W
https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark...o-4-60-ghz.html

13500 has a max turbo of 4.8GHZ at 154W
https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/pro...ifications.html

The performance difference once you lifted PL1 limits can be up to 30%. Basically free overclocking provided you have sufficient cooling
https://www.techspot.com/review/2426-intel-...0-motherboards/