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JIUHWEI
post Mar 19 2024, 03:10 PM

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QUOTE(prescott2006 @ Mar 19 2024, 02:59 PM)
I am a working male, 36, non-smoker, married with 2 kids (6yo and 3yo), wife is working. My monthly salary is 18k, wife is 9k. Outstanding home loan 627k, no MRTA.

Below is my current insurance plan from Generali:
- Life/TPD (150k, age 100)
- Accelerated CI rider (50k, age 100)
- 110 CI care (150k, age 81)
- Hospital income (RM200, age 75)
- Premium payer rider (age 100)
- Medical card (Annual limit 1.6mil, no life limit, age 80)

Questions:
- Any comment on my current plan?
- I feel like my life/TPD not really sufficient, should I top up or buy from other company?
- Is there better plan in the market? If yes, should I switch?
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Are you open for a Financial Health Check?

It tells you exactly what amounts to have for a coverage, and exactly for what reasons.
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post Mar 19 2024, 03:14 PM

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QUOTE(MUM @ Mar 19 2024, 03:07 PM)
Just kay poh asking, ...
With 2 young dependents....
What about your wife's side?
I think life and ci should increase ...
Need to consider your total liabilities vs income vs the amount left after needed expenses.

Do note that the premium will hv drastic increase after age 51...that is the time your children will go into uni
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Biggest liability only home loan, no car loan. Net combined income 20k. Amount left after needed expenses, around 10k.
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post Mar 19 2024, 03:19 PM

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QUOTE(prescott2006 @ Mar 19 2024, 03:14 PM)
Biggest liability only home loan, no car loan. Net combined income 20k. Amount left after needed expenses, around 10k.
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If any thing like CI or semi TPD, (loss of 1 arm or just 1 leg below knee) we're to happen to you, .... can your wife or other family members support your 2 child till working age?
You got no mrta to cover your housing loan incase of (full) TPD too..

This post has been edited by MUM: Mar 19 2024, 03:21 PM
prescott2006
post Mar 19 2024, 03:23 PM

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QUOTE(MUM @ Mar 19 2024, 03:19 PM)
If any thing like CI or  semi TPD, (loss of 1 arm or just 1 leg below knee) we're to happen to you, .... can your wife or other family members support your 2 child till working age?
You got no mrta to cover your housing loan incase of (full) TPD too..
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Yes, but cannot expect with the same lifestyle now ba.
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post Mar 19 2024, 03:24 PM

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QUOTE(JIUHWEI @ Mar 19 2024, 03:10 PM)
Are you open for a Financial Health Check?

It tells you exactly what amounts to have for a coverage, and exactly for what reasons.
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The AIA one?
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post Mar 19 2024, 03:27 PM

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QUOTE(prescott2006 @ Mar 19 2024, 03:23 PM)
Yes, but cannot expect with the same lifestyle now ba.
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Is that okay with you and your family, if just if there is a possibilty of that to happens or you would rather mitigate that risk by paying for it??


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post Mar 19 2024, 03:30 PM

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QUOTE(MUM @ Mar 19 2024, 03:27 PM)
Is that okay with you and your family, if just if there is a possibilty of that to happens or you would rather mitigate that risk by paying for it??
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That's why I am thinking to increase the life insurance. nod.gif
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post Mar 19 2024, 03:36 PM

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QUOTE(prescott2006 @ Mar 19 2024, 03:30 PM)
That's why I am thinking to increase the life insurance.  nod.gif
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Yes, increase, but I believe not just focus on life/tpd insurance....
Thus I would support the call of forumer Jiuhwei for you to have a financial health check
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post Mar 19 2024, 03:41 PM

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QUOTE(prescott2006 @ Mar 19 2024, 02:59 PM)
I am a working male, 36, non-smoker, married with 2 kids (6yo and 3yo), wife is working. My monthly salary is 18k, wife is 9k. Outstanding home loan 627k, no MRTA.

Below is my current insurance plan from Generali:
- Life/TPD (150k, age 100)
- Accelerated CI rider (50k, age 100)
- 110 CI care (150k, age 81)
- Hospital income (RM200, age 75)
- Premium payer rider (age 100)
- Medical card (Annual limit 1.6mil, no life limit, age 80)

Questions:
- Any comment on my current plan?
- I feel like my life/TPD not really sufficient, should I top up or buy from other company?
- Is there better plan in the market? If yes, should I switch?
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Get a financial health check done.
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post Mar 19 2024, 07:20 PM

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QUOTE(prescott2006 @ Mar 19 2024, 02:59 PM)
I am a working male, 36, non-smoker, married with 2 kids (6yo and 3yo), wife is working. My monthly salary is 18k, wife is 9k. Outstanding home loan 627k, no MRTA.

Below is my current insurance plan from Generali:
- Life/TPD (150k, age 100)
- Accelerated CI rider (50k, age 100)
- 110 CI care (150k, age 81)
- Hospital income (RM200, age 75)
- Premium payer rider (age 100)
- Medical card (Annual limit 1.6mil, no life limit, age 80)

Questions:
- Any comment on my current plan?
- I feel like my life/TPD not really sufficient, should I top up or buy from other company?
- Is there better plan in the market? If yes, should I switch?
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Annual income around RM216K . CI coverage RM200K

If strike by critical illness need to rest for uncertain time period, ok good to have medical plan.
How bout monthly income? Current CI will give you RM200K. Ok lah still can tahan 1 year to pay housing loan & daily expenses.
But oh ... daily expenses cost will increase to take care illness patient. Including better organic food. Traveling cost in / out hospital.

Imagine, then you know how much you need and plan for it smile.gif

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post Mar 20 2024, 01:28 AM

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Hi all, I upgraded my insurance as below:

Gender: Male
Age Next Birthday: 33

Monthly premium for all ILP
Medical Insurance: RM 7.3 million annual limit (no lifetime limit)| RM 325.50
Critical Illness Insurance: RM 150k sum assured | RM 150
Life Insurance: RM 1 million sum assured | RM 650

Total premium payable per year: RM 13,506

Considered top range in my profile, if based on my age group and gender? It is over charge / paid? confused.gif

Will upgrade in 4-5 years if my income is high enough.

My preference as below:
- prefer comprehensive coverage (not basic or minimal) for each medical / critical illness / life
- longer policy sustainability during older age like 40-60
- cover until age 90-100
- buy higher coverage during younger age so no need to pay higher premium if upgrade during the old age (40-60).
- investment thingy I don't look at it, I just want comprehensive coverage as possible

I am not sure if all traditional policies (standalone) have lesser coverage compared to ILP, regardless of any insurance companies? someone advise me

or traditional policies more worth?

This post has been edited by X-SenZ: Mar 20 2024, 02:05 AM
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post Mar 20 2024, 01:45 AM

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QUOTE(X-SenZ @ Mar 20 2024, 01:28 AM)
Hi all, I upgraded my insurance as below:

Gender: Male
Age Next Birthday: 33

Monthly premium
Medical Insurance: RM 7.3 million annual limit (no lifetime limit)| RM 325.50


Critical Illness Insurance: RM 150k sum assured | RM 150
Life Insurance: RM 1 million sum assured | RM 650

Total premium payable per year: RM 13,506

Considered top range in my profile, if based on my age group and gender?

Will upgrade in 4-5 years if my income is high enough
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Mind asking, ...for this 7.3 million medical insurance coverage, ....what is the premium for age range 60-65 ? The details should be obtainable from the policy

This post has been edited by MUM: Mar 20 2024, 01:52 AM
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post Mar 20 2024, 01:52 AM

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QUOTE(X-SenZ @ Mar 20 2024, 01:28 AM)
Hi all, I upgraded my insurance as below:

Gender: Male
Age Next Birthday: 33

Monthly premium
Medical Insurance: RM 7.3 million annual limit (no lifetime limit)| RM 325.50
Critical Illness Insurance: RM 150k sum assured | RM 150
Life Insurance: RM 1 million sum assured | RM 650

Total premium payable per year: RM 13,506

Considered top range in my profile, if based on my age group and gender? It is over charge / paid?  :confused:

Will upgrade in 4-5 years if my income is high enough/
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Won't know your profile to advise. Perhaps if you are willing to do a financial health check?
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post Mar 20 2024, 01:59 AM

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QUOTE(MUM @ Mar 20 2024, 01:45 AM)
Mind asking, ...for this 7.3 million medical insurance coverage, ....what is the premium for age range 60-65 ? The details should be obtainable from the policy
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age until 75 is RM 325.50 as maintained (maybe increase in some years as inflation goes)
age 76 onwards then RM 960.00

This post has been edited by X-SenZ: Mar 20 2024, 02:00 AM
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post Mar 20 2024, 05:27 AM

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QUOTE(X-SenZ @ Mar 20 2024, 01:28 AM)
Hi all, I upgraded my insurance as below:

Gender: Male
Age Next Birthday: 33

Monthly premium for all ILP
Medical Insurance: RM 7.3 million annual limit (no lifetime limit)| RM 325.50
Critical Illness Insurance: RM 150k sum assured | RM 150
Life Insurance: RM 1 million sum assured | RM 650

Total premium payable per year: RM 13,506

Considered top range in my profile, if based on my age group and gender? It is over charge / paid?  :confused:

Will upgrade in 4-5 years if my income is high enough.

My preference as below:
- prefer comprehensive coverage (not basic or minimal) for each medical / critical illness / life
- longer policy sustainability during older age like 40-60
- cover until age 90-100 
- buy higher coverage during younger age so no need to pay higher premium if upgrade during the old age (40-60).
- investment thingy I don't look at it, I just want comprehensive coverage as possible

I am not sure if all traditional policies (standalone) have lesser coverage compared to ILP, regardless of any insurance companies? someone advise me

or traditional policies more worth?
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Kena conned by agent already.
No need until 7.6 million for medical insurance. Max maybe 3 million.
Also critical illness insurance in Singapore (early critical illness and booster) cost only fixed RM7k/year for RM500k coverage. The booster increase your coverage or let you claim more than one critical illness (can't remember exactly what it was)

No such thing is no need to pay higher premium when old.

This post has been edited by Ramjade: Mar 20 2024, 05:29 AM
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post Mar 20 2024, 05:35 AM

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QUOTE(X-SenZ @ Mar 20 2024, 01:59 AM)
age until 75 is RM 325.50 as maintained (maybe increase in some years as inflation goes)
age 76 onwards then RM 960.00
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Wow, thanks for telling.
7.3 million coverage for RM 325.50 pm. (325.50 X 12 = 3.9k pa) from age 33 till 75
Premium for medical plan that never increase unlike as in the example posted in the attached image.
Mind telling from which Insurance company and the name of the plan?
Thanks in advance

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post Mar 20 2024, 06:08 AM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Mar 20 2024, 05:27 AM)
Kena conned by agent already.
No need until 7.6 million for medical insurance. Max maybe 3 million.
Also critical illness insurance in Singapore (early critical illness and booster) cost only fixed RM7k/year for RM500k coverage. The booster increase your coverage or let you claim more than one critical illness (can't remember exactly what it was)

No such thing is no need to pay higher premium when old.
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I am just comparing apples with oranges.

If by just looking at the numbers,
Your CI, RM7k for 500k coverage
His Medical, RM 3.9k for 7.3 million

If only that 7.3million allows for overseas treatment too.
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post Mar 20 2024, 06:46 AM

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QUOTE(X-SenZ @ Mar 20 2024, 01:28 AM)
Hi all, I upgraded my insurance as below:

Gender: Male
Age Next Birthday: 33

Monthly premium for all ILP
Medical Insurance: RM 7.3 million annual limit (no lifetime limit)| RM 325.50
Critical Illness Insurance: RM 150k sum assured | RM 150
Life Insurance: RM 1 million sum assured | RM 650

Total premium payable per year: RM 13,506

Considered top range in my profile, if based on my age group and gender? It is over charge / paid?  confused.gif

Will upgrade in 4-5 years if my income is high enough.

My preference as below:
- prefer comprehensive coverage (not basic or minimal) for each medical / critical illness / life
- longer policy sustainability during older age like 40-60
- cover until age 90-100 
- buy higher coverage during younger age so no need to pay higher premium if upgrade during the old age (40-60).
- investment thingy I don't look at it, I just want comprehensive coverage as possible

I am not sure if all traditional policies (standalone) have lesser coverage compared to ILP, regardless of any insurance companies? someone advise me

or traditional policies more worth?
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Ignore those saying kena corned. Unless can proof it and complaint to BNM / OFS
20 years ago medical limit around RM50-100K, people who still stay with it feel useless when come to seriouse treatment.
A friend told me yesterday her auntie admitted to ICU 1 night cost RM50K, limit burst then find way want to transfer to gov GH.
Since 2020, I have seen a few medical claim near to RM1 mil in my agency. Even over RM1 mil from news.
What if you can't apply any other medical plan due to health issue in future? This RM7.5 mil annual is long run risk protection for your next 30 - 40 years.

Kopi old time RM0.50 cents only. Now ...? Can know next 30 years how much will increase?

Back to your question. Technically I'll say you still short of CI coverage.
But can't comment much base on surface data. Can only advise after policy analysis. Then feedback base on policy contents for your financial risk / health / needs.
Traditional plan always lesser coverage compare to ILP, anyhow it is good for long term planning with guarantee premium , cash & maturity.
There are benefits combination traditional cum ILP. If fit your need.

This post has been edited by tyenfei: Mar 20 2024, 06:49 AM
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post Mar 20 2024, 07:33 AM

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QUOTE(MUM @ Mar 20 2024, 06:08 AM)
I am just comparing apples with oranges.

If by just looking at the numbers,
Your CI, RM7k for 500k coverage
His Medical, RM 3.9k for 7.3 million

If only that 7.3million allows for overseas treatment too.
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I am talking about comparing CI Vs CI coverage. I am not talking about medical coverage.

QUOTE(tyenfei @ Mar 20 2024, 06:46 AM)
Ignore those saying kena corned. Unless can proof it and complaint to BNM / OFS
20 years ago medical limit around RM50-100K, people who still stay with it feel useless when come to seriouse treatment.
A friend told me yesterday her auntie admitted to ICU 1 night cost RM50K, limit burst then find way want to transfer to gov GH.
Since 2020, I have seen a few medical claim near to RM1 mil in my agency. Even over RM1 mil from news.
What if you can't apply any other medical plan due to health issue in future? This RM7.5 mil annual is long run risk protection for your next 30 - 40 years.

Kopi old time RM0.50 cents only. Now ...? Can know next 30 years how much will increase?

Back to your question. Technically I'll say you still short of CI coverage.
But can't comment much base on surface data. Can only advise after policy analysis. Then feedback base on policy contents for your financial risk / health / needs.
Traditional plan always lesser coverage compare to ILP, anyhow it is good for long term planning with guarantee premium , cash & maturity.
There are benefits combination traditional cum ILP. If fit your need.
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Question is can one afford the premium of ILP at 70-80 years old time ?😛

Careful lots of agent hunting for food in this thread. Don't worry. I am no agent and I don't cari makan by selling people things and I do stuff for free.

This post has been edited by Ramjade: Mar 20 2024, 08:14 AM
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post Mar 20 2024, 07:53 AM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Mar 20 2024, 07:33 AM)
I am talking about comparing CI Vs CI coverage. I am not talking about medical coverage.

but you mentioned about he kena conned for that 7.3 million coverage. That 7.3 million coverage is for medical coverage. While you also mentioned about your RM7k for 500k coverage fir early CI
Question is can one afford the premium of ILP at 70-80 years old time 😛
he mentioned no preplanned/scheduled premium increase till age 75, then just <3x from age 76 as per premium to be paid table attached to his policy.

Careful lots of agent hunting for food in this thread.
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