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post Jan 28 2021, 02:04 PM, updated 5y ago

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= GURU =

Guru is derived from a Sanskrit term to mean a teacher, guide, expert, or master of certain knowledge or field.

Traditionally, the guru is a very respected figure to the disciple or student, with the guru serving as a counselor, who helps mold values, shares experiential knowledge as much as literal knowledge, an exemplar in life, an inspirational source and who helps in the spiritual evolution of a student.

A guru is also one's spiritual guide, who helps one to discover the same potentialities that the guru has already realized.

= FAKE GURU =

Fake gurus run businesses and sell online courses.

Fake gurus attract fake disciples. Cheaters usually attract the easy to be cheated! One doesn’t select a guru, rather one gravitates towards a guru who is the most suited to his present state of mental development. One can never be forced to become or pay to be the disciple of any particular guru.

Be aware that there are teachers for every level of learner. Not all teacher is the same - high school teacher is not the same as university professor.

Lastly, the student automatically gets attracted to the teacher that suits his needs best.

= SCAMMERS =

It comes in a package with fake gurus in any field of expertise for example - financial, investment, real estate, stocks.

HOW TO KNOW IF THEY ARE SCAMMERS:

1. The Lifestyle (expensive cars, overseas holidays, showing cash, tailored clothing, bling-bling
2. They say 9am-5pm job is useless and look down on working people who actually creates value.
3. Recorded video courses, pre-recorded courses, no face-to-face interactions and keep saying classes almost full capacity. Online courses (at the end of the year, there will be 50% or 70% discount)
4. Younger than 50 years old
5. Runs cringe YouTube or Facebook advertisements
6. Free eBooks/training/webinar - this will lead to sales funnel. This will allow them to get your email and eventually will get your attention
7. Dubious financial history, unproven net worth i.e. "starts with RM100, now RM1 million in 6 months" or "Now I'm financially free (but still sells online courses)"
8. Over use of the word "guru", "mentor" or "sifu"
9. No financial success after being a "student" of the guru, but keep on paying for additional courses or products.
10. Check with Securities Commission, Bank Negara, police and many more government websites, even if not black-listed. It is easier to reach out the these government agencies rather than trying to get back your money if they are really scammers.

WHAT TO DO if they display:

(a) 1 to 2 of the above items, maybe not a fake guru, but please investigate more

(b) 3 to 5 of the above items, please exercise caution, don't consider any payment or subscribe their courses

© 6 to 9 of the above items, avoid these people like the pandemic

(d) If fits well to all 10 of the above items, please let me know. I would love to interview them.

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post Jan 28 2021, 02:05 PM

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Lowyat Stronk Market Guri:

1.Messiahword
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Every jewtube ad. So annoying!

ktard guru mostly just sembang kosong. Not full guru wannabe. I prefer people like messiah over retards selling courses.
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post Jan 28 2021, 02:15 PM

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Fake guru:

1. Michael Tan
2. Vincent Nee
3. Dan Lok
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post Jan 28 2021, 02:15 PM

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A P dupe can ask ppl to list out fake ppl. Its like a robber asking ppl to catch thief.
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post Jan 28 2021, 02:16 PM

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that dude always talk about numbers cant remember the name..

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post Jan 28 2021, 02:26 PM

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i got a sohai friend who is doing marketing guru…lol
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post Jan 28 2021, 02:27 PM

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i happy sell neck pillow. nobody care to learn from me
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post Jan 28 2021, 02:28 PM

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I'm legit guru, can only teach at tuition center and school...owai
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post Jan 28 2021, 02:28 PM

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QUOTE(Syie9^_^ @ Jan 28 2021, 02:05 PM)
Lowyat Stronk Market Guri:

1.Messiahword
2.Daylight2018
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Lyu also
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post Jan 28 2021, 02:30 PM

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QUOTE(Syie9^_^ @ Jan 28 2021, 02:05 PM)
Lowyat Stronk Market Guri:

1.Messiahword
2.Daylight2018
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where is ButButBut ?
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post Jan 28 2021, 02:31 PM

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QUOTE(MrBaba @ Jan 28 2021, 03:58 PM)
Lyu also
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QUOTE(SinzChan @ Jan 28 2021, 04:00 PM)
where is ButButBut ?
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Please enlist.
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post Jan 28 2021, 02:32 PM

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QUOTE(Tingauiskucing @ Jan 28 2021, 02:28 PM)
I'm legit guru, can only teach at tuition center and school...owai
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MCO still allow 2 teach tuition @ centres?
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post Jan 28 2021, 02:33 PM

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COVID19 bukkake guru

1. extatine
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post Jan 28 2021, 02:34 PM

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nowaday alot of ppl selfclaim, DJ, celebrity, GURU and etc.
why?
bcos too many despo water fish out there

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post Jan 28 2021, 02:34 PM

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QUOTE(TiramisuCoffee @ Jan 28 2021, 02:32 PM)
MCO still allow 2 teach tuition @ centres?
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Can do house call (actually ady against mco sop, tho a lot of friends still doing it). For me I only conduct ODL.
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post Jan 28 2021, 02:36 PM

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Past 12 months received Tons n Tons of spam calls... Real estate agents and ahlong made up of majority of the spammers in my list. mad.gif


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QUOTE(Tingauiskucing @ Jan 28 2021, 02:34 PM)
Can do house call (actually ady against mco sop, tho a lot of friends still doing it). For me I only conduct ODL.
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How do u c teaching tuition as a profession in the future? Need personal touch? Or AI can do a better job ( pupil can hit repeat buttons 1000x! )? tongue.gif
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post Jan 28 2021, 02:44 PM

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those at youtube got list?

see some of them didn't bother to make self more presentable also wanna be guru zzz
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post Jan 28 2021, 02:49 PM

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post Jan 28 2021, 02:49 PM

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QUOTE(limfreelance @ Jan 28 2021, 02:34 PM)
nowaday alot of ppl selfclaim, DJ, celebrity, GURU and etc.
why?
bcos too many despo water fish out there
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I dun mind them as long as its free. Treat as entertainment. Their pop up ads r veli annoying though!

But im choosy, x 2nd video sekali i hated the 1st!
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post Jan 28 2021, 02:55 PM

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QUOTE(TiramisuCoffee @ Jan 28 2021, 02:42 PM)
How do u c teaching tuition as a profession in the future? Need personal touch? Or AI can do a better job ( pupil can hit repeat buttons 1000x! )?  tongue.gif
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A.I. couldn't replace the human aspects of instructions (teaching), especially when it comes to the feedback part. It could increase the efficacy, though from my experience and literature reviews on education technology, the best form would incorporate blended learning (mix of physical and digital).

For classes that requires hands on experience, back in the early 2010s I did took part in classes held by MiTX under EdX for science subjects, really fun when they send you all the experiment kits that you could follow along with the instructor during the lessons (e.g building circuits, studying dissections, etc.).
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QUOTE(Doomsday @ Jan 28 2021, 02:16 PM)
that dude always talk about numbers cant remember the name..
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Alex Mason?
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post Jan 28 2021, 04:51 PM

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oh u mean New Zernland and Sparkling Water?

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QUOTE(hurricane21 @ Jan 28 2021, 04:51 PM)
oh u mean New Zernland and Sparkling Water?

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QUOTE(Bendan520 @ Jan 28 2021, 03:15 PM)
Fake guru:

1. Michael Tan
2. Vincent Nee
3. Dan Lok
4.
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JT Low? KYY?
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Tapi eddy kanna and alvin goh living comfortably at their "tempat tahanan."
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QUOTE(rtk74 @ Jan 28 2021, 04:48 PM)
Alex Mason?
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messiah and butbutbut conlanfirm in the list

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QUOTE(Bendan520 @ Jan 28 2021, 02:15 PM)
Fake guru:

1. Michael Tan
2. Vincent Nee
3. Dan Lok
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Vincent Nee tipu?

I just joined his course for property.
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Fake guru:

1. Michael Tan
2. Vincent Nee
3. Dan Lok
4. Zern tan
5. David Chua
6. Gary chua
7. Reeves Yew (king of scam)
8. Kyy
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Basically its recycling the same knowledges and tukar its appearance where the knowledges are not guaranteed with the wrong pricings.
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QUOTE(Syie9^_^ @ Jan 28 2021, 02:05 PM)
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but many ktards earned millions following messiahword 's tips and advice, no?
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Actually all guru are fake one la ,if they so geng and heavy earner why still come out talk show. Owaii
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but many ktards earned millions following messiahword 's tips and advice, no?
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confused.gif I loss million ah! bangwall.gif
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QUOTE(lilu89 @ Jan 28 2021, 02:04 PM)
= GURU =

Guru is derived from a Sanskrit term to mean a teacher, guide, expert, or master of certain knowledge or field.

Traditionally, the guru is a very respected figure to the disciple or student, with the guru serving as a counselor, who helps mold values, shares experiential knowledge as much as literal knowledge, an exemplar in life, an inspirational source and who helps in the spiritual evolution of a student.

A guru is also one's spiritual guide, who helps one to discover the same potentialities that the guru has already realized.

= FAKE GURU =

Fake gurus run businesses and sell online courses.

Fake gurus attract fake disciples. Cheaters usually attract the easy to be cheated! One doesn’t select a guru, rather one gravitates towards a guru who is the most suited to his present state of mental development. One can never be forced to become or pay to be the disciple of any particular guru.

Be aware that there are teachers for every level of learner. Not all teacher is the same - high school teacher is not the same as university professor.

Lastly, the student automatically gets attracted to the teacher that suits his needs best.

= SCAMMERS =

It comes in a package with fake gurus in any field of expertise for example - financial, investment, real estate, stocks.

HOW TO KNOW IF THEY ARE SCAMMERS:

1. The Lifestyle (expensive cars, overseas holidays, showing cash, tailored clothing, bling-bling
2. They say 9am-5pm job is useless and look down on working people who actually creates value.
3. Recorded video courses, pre-recorded courses, no face-to-face interactions and keep saying classes almost full capacity. Online courses (at the end of the year, there will be 50% or 70% discount)
4. Younger than 50 years old
5. Runs cringe YouTube or Facebook advertisements
6. Free eBooks/training/webinar - this will lead to sales funnel. This will allow them to get your email and eventually will get your attention
7. Dubious financial history, unproven net worth i.e. "starts with RM100, now RM1 million in 6 months" or "Now I'm financially free (but still sells online courses)"
8. Over use of the word "guru", "mentor" or "sifu"
9. No financial success after being a "student" of the guru, but keep on paying for additional courses or products.
10. Check with Securities Commission, Bank Negara, police and many more government websites, even if not black-listed. It is easier to reach out the these government agencies rather than trying to get back your money if they are really scammers.

WHAT TO DO if they display:

(a) 1 to 2 of the above items, maybe not a fake guru, but please investigate more

(b) 3 to 5 of the above items, please exercise caution, don't consider any payment or subscribe their courses

© 6 to 9 of the above items, avoid these people like the pandemic

(d) If fits well to all 10 of the above items, please let me know. I would love to interview them.

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Yes too many fake self proclaimed gurus

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QUOTE(Syie9^_^ @ Jan 28 2021, 06:50 PM)
:confused: I loss million ah! bangwall.gif
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some melei guru

1. azizan osman, expert in everything maybe, the phd collector, university of life topkek
2. najib asaddok, azizan osman's student, email marketing expert
3. nassir forex, forex tikam expert, ex husband cleopatra
4. ddnk, saham expert
5. asri ahmad, saham expert

dunno, but i doubt they really make money from things that claim to be expert in. most money probably from courses.

oh another one
dunno his name, but his course named 'meta' shit something


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QUOTE(throwaway_1146 @ Jan 28 2021, 08:24 PM)
gloves?
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whatever made me trap in penthouse like Rapunzel sad.gif

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Malaysia got alot. But lately lying low
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Where is bijan?

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QUOTE(Jitty @ Jan 28 2021, 05:46 PM)
Vincent Nee tipu?

I just joined his course for property.
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Careful oh, later he ask you to join his FD ($ game). thumbup.gif
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Anyone who advertise themselves as gurus, is a scammer.
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Careful oh, later he ask you to join his FD ($ game).  thumbup.gif
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recently in his group, he offer RM 50k. and will give 18% per annum.

then, after nego nego nego, he will tolak 3% and end up to be 15%.

3% is for lawyer fees, this fees and that fees.


His FD game is dangerous ke bro ?
do you think he will run away?
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Adrian is fake or not?
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QUOTE(sohaihunter069 @ Jan 29 2021, 03:59 PM)
Not sure will run away or not la haha.
But money game is money game. Always got a risk de.
My friends said his main source of income is not guru but scheme. That's why can drive Lambo.
Money all spent on Lambo big house. Not sure will burst at the end or not eh.  rclxub.gif
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i joined his class.
the Rm 2500++ that one.
his strategy is ask people to rent a house, let say Rm 1000
partition 3-4 room.
Each room rent to other people RM 300
in the end, you will get Rm 1200
so, after deduct the Rm 1000, you will get Rm 200.

he say on his hand, he got a lot of this property and earn him more than 6 digit of passive income monthly.
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QUOTE(Jitty @ Jan 29 2021, 09:03 PM)
i joined his class.
the Rm 2500++ that one.
his strategy is ask people to rent a house, let say Rm 1000
partition 3-4 room.
Each room rent to other people RM 300
in the end, you will get Rm 1200
so, after deduct the Rm 1000, you will get Rm 200.

he say on his hand, he got a lot of this property and earn him more than 6 digit of passive income monthly.
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Erm that's a bit too vague from what he described.
He only mentioned the fixed cost which is the fixed rental. There's other hidden costs he didn't mentioned.
Variable costs for example, electricity bills, water charges, wifi, cleaning fees. (more people using = higher charges)
Startup capital for partition, renovation fees. (RM20-30k).
Not to mention management fees, agent commissions, accountant, admin?

And where's the proof he got a lot of property?
I believe he could be managing a number of houses but numbers can always be inflated. Say only ma rolleyes.gif



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QUOTE(sohaihunter069 @ Jan 30 2021, 06:40 AM)
Erm that's a bit too vague from what he described.
He only mentioned the fixed cost which is the fixed rental. There's other hidden costs he didn't mentioned.
Variable costs for example, electricity bills, water charges, wifi, cleaning fees. (more people using = higher charges)
Startup capital for partition, renovation fees. (RM20-30k).
Not to mention management fees, agent commissions, accountant, admin?

And where's the proof he got a lot of property?
I believe he could be managing a number of houses but numbers can always be inflated.  Say only ma  rolleyes.gif
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U joined his course too?
You are correct too..
He is living a too damn luxurious lifestyle
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U joined his course too?
You are correct too..
He is living a too damn luxurious lifestyle
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luxurious lifestyle genuine or not? or it could be fama properties

like i know some entrepreneur gives talks on start-ups, later found out that he is actually dadikasi but talk until like as if he started from scratch/zero.

Went overseas study some more, father gave support to start business. sweat.gif
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2.Daylight2018
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Nice compilation

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QUOTE(Jitty @ Jan 29 2021, 01:13 PM)
recently in his group, he offer RM 50k. and will give 18% per annum.

then, after nego nego nego, he will tolak 3% and end up to be 15%.

3% is for lawyer fees, this fees and that fees.
His FD game is dangerous ke bro ?
do you think he will run away?
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Dangerous, better run away...
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QUOTE(lagista @ Jan 28 2021, 02:49 PM)
IGP say cop kawtim with tokey judi live in luxury
1 Jan 2021
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/5080855

Polis kesan scammer ‘intai’ pencarum i-Sinar KWSP
2 Jan 2021
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/5081367

Remand order for 22 online scam suspects extended
3 Jan 2021
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/5081655

Sindiket Macau Scam beli hartanah RM336 juta hasil penipuan
3 Jan 2021
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/5081789
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/5081917

29 Taiwanese phone scammers jailed
5 Jan 2021
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/5082782

CEO rugi RM1 juta kerana pelaburan forex
6 Jan 2021
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/5083159

Man sentenced to jail for cheating loan shark, taking money for harassment that he did not complete
7 Jan 2021
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/5083984

Fake sugar daddy & mummy scam: Nigerian arrested
8 Jan 2021
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/5084360
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/5084429
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/5084459
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/5084548
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/5084676
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/5085537

Zyman scammer
8 Jan 2021
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/5084445

Datuk scam 629 people in RM30 million forex scam
8 Jan 2021
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/5084462

Vietnamese national cheated of more than RM200k over fake Covid-19 aid scheme on FB
8 Jan 2021
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/5084499

Female fast food employee loses RM18k in postal scam
8 Jan 2021
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/5084537

Varsity student cheated of RM86k in online investment scam
11 Jan 2021
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/5086054

Pensioner in Melaka loses RM20k in Macau scam
14 Jan 2021
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/5087708

Clerk poorer by RM112k after falling prey to scamm
15 Jan 2021
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/5088180

Online guru charges 4,000 for entrepreneur class
18 Jan 2021
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/5089530

Civil servant loses RM200k to Macau scam
18 Jan 2021
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/5089639

Multiple Chinese students arrested for scams
20 Jan 2021
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/5090691

MCMC: Beware of scammers trying to take over your WhatsApp account
21 Jan 2021
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/5091248

Lawyer from Merlimau loses RM18k after befriending woman on WeChat
21 Jan 2021
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/5091251

Retired teacher cheated of RM1.8mil
22 Jan 2021
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/5091733
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/5091798
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/5091834

Accountant loses RM25k to person impersonating her friend
22 Jan 2021
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/5091804

1001 Rahsia Jutawan Malaysia Guerilla
23 Jan 2021
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/5092096

Teacher loses RM27,550 to Macau scam syndicate
23 Jan 2021
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/5092148

Investment Scammer Alert
23 Jan 2021
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/5092184

Taiwanese Macau scam mastermind, three others arrested at KL condo
26 Jan 2021
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/5093615

Melaka woman loses RM2.08 million after revealing bank details to scammer
26 Jan 2021
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/5093635
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/5093938

Colleague kena scam call & kena rm5000
26 Jan 2021
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/5093729

Lemang maker loses RM100k in investment scam in Melaka
27 Jan 2021
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/5094328
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/5094451

Educator loses RM81,133 after scammed by inspector
27 Jan 2021
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/5094450

Loan scams on the rise in Selangor
27 Jan 2021
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/5094453

Cops raid online gambling centre, 20 arrested, including nine foreigners
28 Jan 2021
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/5094637

Police dismantle world's 'most dangerous' criminal hacking network
28 Jan 2021
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/5094648

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Bonus:

Milk tetek scammer
25 Jan 2021
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/5093279
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Those above already known, better find those still in operation, not yet get caught or still scamming people.
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QUOTE(Jitty @ Jan 29 2021, 01:13 PM)
recently in his group, he offer RM 50k. and will give 18% per annum.

then, after nego nego nego, he will tolak 3% and end up to be 15%.

3% is for lawyer fees, this fees and that fees.
His FD game is dangerous ke bro ?
do you think he will run away?
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later he tell u account kene hack biggrin.gif biggrin.gif
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post Jan 30 2021, 07:15 PM

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QUOTE(Jitty @ Jan 28 2021, 05:47 PM)
Fake guru:

1. Michael Tan
2. Vincent Nee
3. Dan Lok
4. Zern tan
5. David Chua
6. Gary chua
7. Reeves Yew (king of scam)
8. Kyy
9.
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Lets keep the list going and make them famous, maybe list a brief description of past scandal

Fake gurus:

1. Michael Tan - vending machine, now a prop guru
2. Vincent Nee
3. Dan Lok
4. Zern tan
5. David Chua
6. Gary chua - prop guru, Roberston, bukit bintang
7. Reeves Yew (king of scam)
8. Kyy
9. Finspak - 1.5 mil crowdfunding
10. AW?
11. JJ - JJPTR, one of the most legendary scams in malaysia, got away with billions
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Forex guru got?
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Lets keep the list going and make them famous, maybe list a brief description of past scandal

Fake gurus:

1. Michael Tan - vending machine, now a prop guru
2. Vincent Nee - Prop Guru
3. Dan Lok - Motivational Guru Scam
4. Zern tan
5. David Chua - Internet markerting
6. Gary chua - prop guru, Roberston, bukit bintang
7. Reeves Yew - Funnel Scammer @ https://www.facebook.com/search/top?q=reeve%20yew
9. Finspak AKA Spark Liang- 1.5 mil crowdfunding @ https://www.facebook.com/sparkteoh
10. Adrian Wee
11. JJ - JJPTR, one of the most legendary scams in malaysia, got away with billions
12.azizan osman, expert in everything maybe, the phd collector, university of life topkek
13. najib asaddok, azizan osman's student, email marketing expert
14. nassir forex, forex tikam expert, ex husband cleopatra
15. ddnk, saham expert
16. asri ahmad, saham expert

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QUOTE(Jitty @ Jan 31 2021, 12:35 AM)
Lets keep the list going and make them famous, maybe list a brief description of past scandal

Fake gurus:

1. Michael Tan - vending machine, now a prop guru
2. Vincent Nee - Prop Guru
3. Dan Lok - Motivational Guru Scam
4. Zern tan
5. David Chua - Internet markerting
6. Gary chua - prop guru, Roberston, bukit bintang
7. Reeves Yew - Funnel Scammer @ https://www.facebook.com/search/top?q=reeve%20yew
9. Finspak AKA Spark Liang- 1.5 mil crowdfunding @ https://www.facebook.com/sparkteoh
10. Adrian Wee
11. JJ - JJPTR, one of the most legendary scams in malaysia, got away with billions
12.azizan osman, expert in everything maybe, the phd collector, university of life topkek
13. najib asaddok, azizan osman's student, email marketing expert
14. nassir forex, forex tikam expert, ex husband cleopatra
15. ddnk, saham expert
16. asri ahmad, saham expert
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Why dan Lok and david chua?
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Why dan Lok and david chua?
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Find at Youtube, Dan Lok Coffeezilla, basically coffeezilla expose almost each of Dan Lok's scam and claim
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please add this low chern hong

Frustrating youtube ads. Warren Buffet your head

If you have the way making money at share market
you wont wasting your saliva in front of the camera convincing ppls to subscribe your investment class.

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faizul ridzuan fake guru
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QUOTE(Jitty @ Jan 31 2021, 12:35 AM)
Lets keep the list going and make them famous, maybe list a brief description of past scandal

Fake gurus:

1. Michael Tan - vending machine, now a prop guru
2. Vincent Nee - Prop Guru
3. Dan Lok - Motivational Guru Scam
4. Zern tan
5. David Chua - Internet markerting
6. Gary chua - prop guru, Roberston, bukit bintang
7. Reeves Yew - Funnel Scammer @ https://www.facebook.com/search/top?q=reeve%20yew
9. Finspak AKA Spark Liang- 1.5 mil crowdfunding @ https://www.facebook.com/sparkteoh
10. Adrian Wee
11. JJ - JJPTR, one of the most legendary scams in malaysia, got away with billions
12.azizan osman, expert in everything maybe, the phd collector, university of life topkek
13. najib asaddok, azizan osman's student, email marketing expert
14. nassir forex, forex tikam expert, ex husband cleopatra
15. ddnk, saham expert
16. asri ahmad, saham expert
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interesting list.
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QUOTE(HereToLearn @ Jan 30 2021, 07:15 PM)
Lets keep the list going and make them famous, maybe list a brief description of past scandal

Fake gurus:

1. Michael Tan - vending machine, now a prop guru
2. Vincent Nee
3. Dan Lok
4. Zern tan
5. David Chua
6. Gary chua - prop guru, Roberston, bukit bintang
7. Reeves Yew (king of scam)
8. Kyy
9. Finspak - 1.5 mil crowdfunding
10. AW?
11. JJ - JJPTR, one of the most legendary scams in malaysia, got away with billions
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12. David Justin
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how was Vincent Nee is fake ?
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eh Spark Liang is fake ah, i thot he legit. Got vidrillz of him getting busted? nak tgk.
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QUOTE(Jitty @ Jan 29 2021, 01:13 PM)
recently in his group, he offer RM 50k. and will give 18% per annum.

then, after nego nego nego, he will tolak 3% and end up to be 15%.

3% is for lawyer fees, this fees and that fees.
His FD game is dangerous ke bro ?
do you think he will run away?
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if he run away , let me know , i know his mom , dad and whole family in real life laugh.gif laugh.gif

but he help me buy and sell property , help me rent out my house and room
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Which one better Michael Tan or Faizul Ridzuan?
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QUOTE(Bendan520 @ Jan 28 2021, 02:15 PM)
Fake guru:

1. Michael Tan
2. Vincent Nee
3. Dan Lok
4.
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Robert Kiyosaki should be 1st on the List.

And that Dan Lok...fui...I wants to punch his face.
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My personal experience after attending some guru class. Somw of them they really know what they do while some of them can really see their intention is to sell u their class while they said they do it for u not for money.

To me i think Michael Tan is ok he knows his thing but his partner lastime Jenson that focus on project I doubt his selection of property hahaha.

Vince Tan I find his course not bad. He really got something and down to earth at least I dont see he show off his lambo or ferrari car or expansive watch and holiday.

Steven Yong is definitely no no no! I attended the class with my hubby and my hubby sign up for his upsell but bcz of pandemic did not get to attend the class and no more support money all gone 😭

Adrian wee I attended his dna class but he kept selling his upgrade pci class and include all those complex stuff to show what he do but to me it doesn’t related to dna. And try hard to sell he said he is not doing for money anymore he did it bcz want to sace sme.

Gary chua never attend his class but saw his fb live and read some post in lowyat about his history.

Ethan sim AW ex partner for loan. He came out on his own. Personally i find his class worth a lot bcz really a lot things that are helpful. But i dont think he is teaching anymore as his main biz is in loan.

Chris Yong its helpful for beginner and try to sell hard for his upgrade on 2nd and 3rd day. The 3rd day was bcz he said a lot enquiry about the upgrade so he repeat what he explained in 2nd day about his upgrade. But for me it was too basic.

KCSee attended like more than 10yrs ago. Many things in his masterclass but it change my mind and I jumped out to be self employed so i guess it help hahaha
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QUOTE(TianJian @ Apr 6 2022, 12:16 PM)
if he run away , let me know , i know his mom , dad and whole family in real life  laugh.gif  laugh.gif

but he help me buy and sell property , help me rent out my house and room
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Who are you talking about?
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post Apr 29 2023, 11:58 PM

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Haven't people realize that we had been scammed by the education system since day 1 ?
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Kek David Chua. Still got idiots listening to him?
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Parking
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Add one more to the list:

- Sadhguru : U can find this so-called spiritual guru on Youtube. He claims his wife meditated to such a high level until she died. His father-in-law sued him for foul play because he quickly cremated his wife's body without anyone having a chance to do an autopsy. If u listen to his talks, u will know how stupid he sounds. Whenever challenged, he will put down his opponents by ridiculing his opponent, snigger and then changing the topic. However, there are many ppl who believes in him, even celebrities who treat him like he is the Buddha.

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Eric Feng - from SG speaker guru. claim can getting Paid Up to 5 Figures Per Speech, Impacting Thousands of Lives, and Generating Free Leads
Even With Zero Experience & Stage Fright. website https://www.getpaidtospeak.asia/payment
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this dato michael tan still continuing his scam it seems as share in https://5atoshi.blogspot.com/2022/03/rm-99-...017843051764327

scam is continuing. now only RM97. thank god for this info if not i would be wasting my money with this crap. the latest website is https://boldpay.cc/catalogue/myw2023
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Siapa percaya those so called guru siapa well deserved sohai
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Ekcelli dunno if this off topic but Ayam passed by some highway saw this big billboard showing there are some experts about property in kl area even show their face some more as if guru something like that

Anyone think that’s really legit?

Lel
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Does anyone has Michael Tan's full name ah? he claims now he's dato.. lol.. looks like anyone also can 'claim they are dato' .. wanna go check if he's legit on istiadat.gov.my site ..
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QUOTE(kei18kun @ Nov 18 2023, 04:37 PM)
this dato michael tan still continuing his scam it seems as share in https://5atoshi.blogspot.com/2022/03/rm-99-...017843051764327

scam is continuing. now only RM97. thank god for this info if not i would be wasting my money with this crap. the latest website is https://boldpay.cc/catalogue/myw2023
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Just found out his name.. tan eng joo.. he claims to be a dato but he's not... once u cross check his name on istiadat.gov.my only shows these:

user posted image

The closest match is AMN.. not even dato... another conman cum fake dato... hawk tuah... puikkkk

Some more dare to post shits like this on instagram:

https://www.instagram.com/p/C8gq8A3p0yl/

what a paria dog

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To pay someone to learn how to make fast money =scam

 

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