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post Mar 24 2024, 05:34 PM

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QUOTE(horns @ Mar 24 2024, 10:21 AM)
intel has done the same for years. that's why i was reluctant to upgrade for a long time. i will keep my x299 machines for as long as it can run. 44 pci-e lanes, although pci-e 3.0, can still do a lot of things.

i don't have much experience in amd's cpus for personal computing.
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People go with LGA2066 platform for one reason only; PCIE lane whoring.
I kinda knew your usage would need that much lanes which is why I reco go for Xeon instead. Even LGA1700 If you ady have GPU & 2 SSD pretty much left only 1-2 open 4x channel for addons. Not a lot if you coming from HEDT previously
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QUOTE(babylon52281 @ Mar 24 2024, 05:34 PM)
People go with LGA2066 platform for one reason only; PCIE lane whoring.
I kinda knew your usage would need that much lanes which is why I reco go for Xeon instead. Even LGA1700 If you ady have GPU & 2 SSD pretty much left only 1-2 open 4x channel for addons. Not a lot if you coming from HEDT previously
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right, but those were my previous needs. these days i have better machines at work, so i can make use of them to do heavy lifting. at home, i don't need to have powerhouses like xeon or epyc anymore.

currently my bottomline is 4x pci-e 4.0 ssds. afaik there are quite a number of z790 options available. if i go for better pci-e 5.0 support, i need to pay more.

for my current main rig at home, i have also started to disable sata in bios, and run full pci-e nvme.

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post Mar 25 2024, 01:35 AM

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QUOTE(horns @ Mar 24 2024, 07:15 PM)
right, but those were my previous needs. these days i have better machines at work, so i can make use of them to do heavy lifting. at home, i don't need to have powerhouses like xeon or epyc anymore.

currently my bottomline is 4x pci-e 4.0 ssds. afaik there are quite a number of z790 options available. if i go for better pci-e 5.0 support, i need to pay more.

for my current main rig at home, i have also started to disable sata in bios, and run full pci-e nvme.
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If no more needing all that PCIE lanes then yeah Z790 full ATX will be plenty for most users. If need to install lotsa NVME SSD, get one that can do lane bifurcation.
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when you use enterprise/dc drives in your systems, it's better to check the operating temperatures of the drives with crystal diskinfo.

in general, it's better to keep the temperature below 50c. this is relatively easy for mainstream/consumer ssds. enterprise/dc ssds usually run way hotter than the former (e.g., 60+ c at idle, depending on form factors)

the remedies are simple:
1. use heat sinks; and
2. use a fan to blow them directly.



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Can anyone recommend me the best bang for the buck 1TB SSD?

I'm not looking for the fastest speed, I just need reliability and cheap.
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QUOTE(Created On 21/1/2021 @ Mar 28 2024, 11:22 AM)
Can anyone recommend me the best bang for the buck 1TB SSD?

I'm not looking for the fastest speed, I just need reliability and cheap.
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Not easy now. Price went up a lot since Nov 2023.

Surprisingly, Samsung 990 Pro price did not move.

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QUOTE(TristanX @ Mar 28 2024, 02:00 PM)
Not easy now. Price went up a lot since Nov 2023.

Surprisingly, Samsung 990 Pro price did not move.
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i don't think they will be adjusted to new heights. the current pricing has started to make their drives to look more 'competitive'.

also, the price of mainstream ssds are being adjusted to a point that doesn't make sense to consumers. that will make more consumers switching to waiting game mode. it's bad for the market.
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QUOTE(TristanX @ Mar 28 2024, 02:00 PM)
Not easy now. Price went up a lot since Nov 2023.

Surprisingly, Samsung 990 Pro price did not move.
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It went too low previously IMO. Now it's slighly above average.
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QUOTE(horns @ Mar 29 2024, 10:20 AM)
i don't think they will be adjusted to new heights. the current pricing has started to make their drives to look more 'competitive'.

also, the price of mainstream ssds are being adjusted to a point that doesn't make sense to consumers. that will make more consumers switching to waiting game mode. it's bad for the market.
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Oh you havent seen anything yet, SSD prices in the Western world have only started picking up & predictions will top up at Q3 so prices havent yet plateaued and likely will go even higher towards later this year.
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QUOTE(babylon52281 @ Mar 29 2024, 02:02 PM)
Oh you havent seen anything yet, SSD prices in the Western world have only started picking up & predictions will top up at Q3 so prices havent yet plateaued and likely will go even higher towards later this year.
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ssd price hike is not a big deal to most people i think. to them, ssd is just not one of their priorities. that's why we never have news about general public going panic when ssds have its price hiked.

for those who know a bit more, i believe they already have enough time to get prepared since last year hehe









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post Mar 29 2024, 07:09 PM

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Well, SSD is not typically recurring purchase, buy one you will use for years, max two depending on your machine setup (for normal home user, not data hoarders).
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QUOTE(horns @ Mar 29 2024, 07:06 PM)
ssd price hike is not a big deal to most people i think. to them, ssd is just not one of their priorities. that's why we never have news about general public going panic when ssds have its price hiked.

for those who know a bit more, i believe they already have enough time to get prepared since last year hehe
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Depends on who you ask. Many still come here wondering why SSD prices so expensive like they didnt get the memo months ago, so some might want to hold purchase thinking it might drop again but hooboy its gonna go even higher again. So those holdouts buy now if still can, but you really should have bought months ago.
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QUOTE(LostAndFound @ Mar 29 2024, 07:09 PM)
Well, SSD is not typically recurring purchase, buy one you will use for years, max two depending on your machine setup (for normal home user, not data hoarders).
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right. this is also the main reason why people should get options with higher capacity if possible.

with simple optimizations and appropriate usage, good-quality ssds can live long. it's like more than 10 years for ssds with mlc nand. hence, ssds always serve two purposes for me. the first part of their shelf life will be system/work/storage drives, to provide speed and performance. years later, they will retire and become external storage. no moving parts in ssd make them good for the purpose.

previously i tend to get what's enough for me. however, by the time these drives retired, their capacities become not that sufficient as external storage.

QUOTE(babylon52281 @ Mar 30 2024, 11:53 AM)
Depends on who you ask. Many still come here wondering why SSD prices so expensive like they didnt get the memo months ago, so some might want to hold purchase thinking it might drop again but hooboy its gonna go even higher again. So those holdouts buy now if still can, but you really should have bought months ago.
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yeah, maybe they were busy living their lives hehe


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QUOTE(horns @ Mar 30 2024, 12:30 PM)
right. this is also the main reason why people should get options with higher capacity if possible.

with simple optimizations and appropriate usage, good-quality ssds can live long. it's like more than 10 years for ssds with mlc nand. hence, ssds always serve two purposes for me. the first part of their shelf life will be system/work/storage drives, to provide speed and performance. years later, they will retire and become external storage. no moving parts in ssd make them good for the purpose.

previously i tend to get what's enough for me. however, by the time these drives retired, their capacities become not that sufficient as external storage.
yeah, maybe they were busy living their lives hehe
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Dont rely on the estimated lifespan of an SSD, its just only a prediction. I had an MLC SSD that died only 5 years so its better to not belief everything as claimed.

Yeah busy being waterfishes. Gotta have some of them in the market. Its like popping into the property market to buy and then wonder why their bought value drop.

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QUOTE(babylon52281 @ Mar 30 2024, 04:27 PM)
Dont rely on the estimated lifespan of an SSD, its just only a prediction. I had an MLC SSD that died only 5 years so its better to not belief everything as claimed.

Yeah busy being waterfishes. Gotta have some of them in the market. Its like popping into the property market to buy and then wonder why their bought value drop.
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er it's based on ssds in my different systems. they are more than 10 years old, and they are still running fine, with good health status, e.g., ocz vertex 4 256gb; 2x plextor m5 pro 512gb; 3x m5m 256gb; samsung 830 256gb; samsung 840 pro (2x 256gb; 2x 512gb); 2x crucial m500 960gb; and some oem enterprise/dc drives (400gb to 960gb in size), from different brands.

some of my mlc drives are younger than or at 10 years old. they are not included.

edit: however, you're right. these drives were mlc drives. mlc is not as accessible as before.

tlc started to replace mlc since 2013. back then, planar tlc was bad. then vendors started to do layered tlc, and eventually we have reached 230+-layer tlc nand today, and reliabity of tlc has improved a lot.

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pci-e 7.0 specifications was released, https://www.tweaktown.com/news/97317/pcie-7...28gb/index.html



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My Transcend MTE220S crapped out after 2 years. I only use it to store games and some documents.

Anybody knows who should I contact for RMA?
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QUOTE(overfloe @ Apr 15 2024, 09:37 AM)
My Transcend MTE220S crapped out after 2 years. I only use it to store games and some documents.

Anybody knows who should I contact for RMA?
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Try Alphamatic

https://www.alphamaticdistribution.com.my/transcend/
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QUOTE(overfloe @ Apr 15 2024, 09:37 AM)
My Transcend MTE220S crapped out after 2 years. I only use it to store games and some documents.

Anybody knows who should I contact for RMA?
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Wow! Its claim to fame is its much higher than average TBW & MTBF. Looks like that was only good on paper.
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QUOTE(TristanX @ Apr 15 2024, 11:25 AM)
Thanks. Dropped them a msg (inc the other distributor), now awaiting their reply.


QUOTE(babylon52281 @ Apr 15 2024, 01:04 PM)
Wow! Its claim to fame is its much higher than average TBW & MTBF. Looks like that was only good on paper.
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Mine is 1TB model, I doubt i have reached its claimed TBW (too good to be true anyway) and not even 90% full. All i know, windows entered check disk and in windows, the disk appeared intermittently. Cant even detect the diak in bios.

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