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post Nov 22 2020, 10:12 PM

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QUOTE(RiriRuruRara @ Nov 22 2020, 06:26 PM)
wow that is too ,much money for just a 8gb ram upgrade ..
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When you talk about Apple nothing compares ....

Do you even want to compare Ferrari price to say Nissan Skyline ? Although both the same sports car but ??
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post Nov 22 2020, 10:13 PM

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QUOTE(stargazhe @ Nov 22 2020, 05:22 PM)
RM800 for Malaysia. Same goes for upgrading 256GB to 512GB.
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I guess that's the Apple tax. I just bought 32GB DDRD4-3200 RAM for my PC for under RM700 as a comparison.
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QUOTE(stevenlee @ Nov 22 2020, 07:18 PM)
i was looking something to replace my desktop and old laptop, many people review this very good for light gaming..
however, mostly miss out android emulator.
many new release mobile game now being play using android emulator due to hotkey and big screen.
i wonder how this macbook handle android emulator as they are memory hungry application and how many instances can be run simultaneously.
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It should be flying , I still can run Nox on my MBA 2016 with no issues ... except the helicopter sounds from the MBA fans are blazing fast ... well it could be well be from Black Hawk Copper for all I know but yeahh and my MBA just having a minimum 4GB of RAM on Intel I7 .

So yeah with this M1 chip is should be fluid as our Selangor river well even though its being contaminated at least twice a month without fail.
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QUOTE(DiRecToRofSaTaN @ Nov 22 2020, 10:17 PM)
It should be flying , I still can run Nox on my MBA 2016  with no issues ... except the  helicopter sounds from the MBA fans  are blazing  fast  ... well it could be well be  from Black Hawk Copper  for all I know but yeahh   and  my  MBA just having a minimum  4GB  of RAM on Intel I7 .

So yeah with this M1 chip  is should be fluid as  our Selangor river well even though its being  contaminated  at least twice a month without fail.
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How many memory you set for your nox?
I play emulator at my pc and set 8gb memory for nox if not my Ragnarok Mobile will be lag like hell. Further more I running 4 instance and total 32GB.. just wonder if mba can run with 2gb memory and 4 instances.
Even iPhone 6 also hv issue running ragnarok mobile smoothly

This post has been edited by stevenlee: Nov 22 2020, 11:46 PM
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QUOTE(attw @ Nov 22 2020, 04:44 PM)
Hahaha, yeah, best return for investment as far as a laptop is concerned laugh.gif

I also paid just under RM4k for my unit, a 256GB one, couldn't be happier with it especially with Big Sur now. Everything looks new again, hahaha. I do have a concern every time I run Windows on Bootcamp though and that is my CPU fan seems to go into overdrive and can get a bit noisy. Do you have that problem?
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Yes I'm loving the Big Sur visuals too, glad that it still supports older models.

About the fan, honestly it's running most of the time and yes it's certainly noticeable / loud. But I have this issue on both MacOS and Bootcamp.

Actually now that I think about it, the fan noise has been prominent and continuous ever since I had the OneDrive app on both my MacOS and Bootcamp sides (i.e. all my files are always on continuous sync to cloud).
Stopping the continuous sync on OneDrive almost always slows down the fan noise (unless I have tons of tabs open on Chrome).

If you have any continuous sync apps to cloud, perhaps you can try pausing them to see if there's a change to your fan noise. smile.gif
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QUOTE(langstrasse @ Nov 23 2020, 12:03 AM)
Yes I'm loving the Big Sur visuals too, glad that it still supports older models.

About the fan, honestly it's running most of the time and yes it's certainly noticeable / loud. But I have this issue on both MacOS and Bootcamp.

Actually now that I think about it, the fan noise has been prominent and continuous ever since I had the OneDrive app on both my MacOS and Bootcamp sides (i.e. all my files are always on continuous sync to cloud).
Stopping the continuous sync on OneDrive almost always slows down the fan noise (unless I have tons of tabs open on Chrome).

If you have any continuous sync apps to cloud, perhaps you can try pausing them to see if there's a change to your fan noise.  smile.gif
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I don't have OneDrive on either Windows or macOS but still get the fan noise, haha. I can hear a bit of the sound when running macOS but the sound is really bad when running Windows. I had a scare once when the whole MacBook just shutdown once and wouldn't turn on but after making an appointment at a service centre and bringing my MacBook there, it magically turned on and operated like normal at the service centre laugh.gif
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Interested with this macbook air M1, but it seems there are a lot of problems those reviewers didnt reveal?
https://www.forbes.com/sites/patrickmoorhea...t-want-to-pass/

Although link says Macbook Pro, but should be same for air since the diff is only fanless.

What do you guys think? Now I am having doubt to buy this.
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QUOTE(plushie @ Nov 23 2020, 11:06 AM)
Interested with this macbook air M1, but it seems there are a lot of problems those reviewers didnt reveal?
https://www.forbes.com/sites/patrickmoorhea...t-want-to-pass/

Although link says Macbook Pro, but should be same for air since the diff is only fanless.

What do you guys think? Now I am having doubt to buy this.
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i think it's safe to wait out a bit more if you are not in hurry to get a laptop. i won't be surprised if many of the early reviews are paid by apple. after all apple need a very positive early impressions to set the stage for adoptions for such brand new and ground breaking change.

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any idea when will it be released here?
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QUOTE(plushie @ Nov 23 2020, 11:06 AM)
Interested with this macbook air M1, but it seems there are a lot of problems those reviewers didnt reveal?
https://www.forbes.com/sites/patrickmoorhea...t-want-to-pass/

Although link says Macbook Pro, but should be same for air since the diff is only fanless.

What do you guys think? Now I am having doubt to buy this.
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QUOTE(EpsilonStar @ Nov 23 2020, 12:15 PM)
i think it's safe to wait out a bit more if you are not in hurry to get a laptop. i won't be surprised if many of the early reviews are paid by apple. after all apple need a very positive early impressions to set the stage for adoptions for such brand new and ground breaking change.
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Early reviewers are not paid by Apple, but they are all handpicked by Apple to loan them the devices before general release. So generally the reviews tend to be on the positive side. It doesn't mean that they are biased, just they will highlight the good stuff more.

On the other hand, you have websites like Forbes which is well known to talk crap about Apple while displaying obtrusive ads all over the place. Just check out their so-called 'reviews' on any Apple product. They all go along the lines of "Don't get me wrong, the [Apple product] is by all means excellent, but it is actually terrible."

If you are interested in the MacBook Air, you can check out MacRumors forums. You can get honest feedback from real users there. In my opinion, the M1 is without a doubt, a first gen product. Apple may have been planning it for years but real world testing has just begun. Don't expect it to be flawless. However, I believe most of the incompatibility issues will be solved within a year. It is up to you whether to wait and see or be an early adopter.
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QUOTE(plushie @ Nov 23 2020, 11:06 AM)
Interested with this macbook air M1, but it seems there are a lot of problems those reviewers didnt reveal?
https://www.forbes.com/sites/patrickmoorhea...t-want-to-pass/

Although link says Macbook Pro, but should be same for air since the diff is only fanless.

What do you guys think? Now I am having doubt to buy this.
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Done reading the so-called "review" by Forbes. Don't you think the review is not logic at all?
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QUOTE(kevinpss @ Nov 21 2020, 02:12 PM)
yeah right? see the speed on open up excel file...damn powerful this M1 chip...
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Yes! Especially this is the unoptimized version. Once the optimised version is in, the performance should fly even more!

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QUOTE(plushie @ Nov 23 2020, 11:06 AM)
Interested with this macbook air M1, but it seems there are a lot of problems those reviewers didnt reveal?
https://www.forbes.com/sites/patrickmoorhea...t-want-to-pass/

Although link says Macbook Pro, but should be same for air since the diff is only fanless.

What do you guys think? Now I am having doubt to buy this.
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Thanks for sharing this, it gives a real reality on the compatibility and it will take at least a minimum of 6 months to a year for all issues to be ironed out. Given this was the case when Apple moved to Intel in the past as well.
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QUOTE(Mavik @ Nov 23 2020, 03:44 PM)
Yes! Especially this is the unoptimized version. Once the optimised version is in, the performance should fly even more!
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These optimised version will be via software update?
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QUOTE(williamlee_1985 @ Nov 23 2020, 04:28 PM)
These optimised version will be via software update?
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If it is through the App Store then the update will come in through notification. If its downloaded separately, then if the programming is done well, it will also notify you and auto update.
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QUOTE(stargazhe @ Nov 23 2020, 02:52 PM)
Early reviewers are not paid by Apple, but they are all handpicked by Apple to loan them the devices before general release. So generally the reviews tend to be on the positive side. It doesn't mean that they are biased, just they will highlight the good stuff more.

On the other hand, you have websites like Forbes which is well known to talk crap about Apple while displaying obtrusive ads all over the place. Just check out their so-called 'reviews' on any Apple product. They all go along the lines of "Don't get me wrong, the [Apple product] is by all means excellent, but it is actually terrible."

If you are interested in the MacBook Air, you can check out MacRumors forums. You can get honest feedback from real users there. In my opinion, the M1 is without a doubt, a first gen product. Apple may have been planning it for years but real world testing has just begun. Don't expect it to be flawless. However, I believe most of the incompatibility issues will be solved within a year. It is up to you whether to wait and see or be an early adopter.
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Hmm, what you mentioned about early reviewer is basically showing they are biased though.
The Forbes highlighted several incompatibility issues that objectively can’t be disputed. Unless it’s an isolated case for that reviewer.

I guess I will wait out instead of buying this in December.

QUOTE(kevinpss @ Nov 23 2020, 03:16 PM)
Done reading the so-called "review" by Forbes. Don't you think the review is not logic at all?
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Which part? Some are specific to user preferences (external display etc), but incompatibility with the programs he mentioned look legit.

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QUOTE(plushie @ Nov 23 2020, 04:54 PM)
Hmm, what you mentioned about early reviewer is basically showing they are biased though.
The Forbes highlighted several incompatibility issues that objectively can’t be disputed. Unless it’s an isolated case for that reviewer.

I guess I will wait out instead of buying this in December.
Which part? Some are specific to user preferences (external display etc), but incompatibility with the programs he mentioned look legit.
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right from the beginning on the IE installation already not showing logic thinking
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The article seems to be very lopsided and may only represent a really small percentage of Mac users - it was widely reviewed as not friendly to non-Mac native app (though performs well with Rosetta) yet he choose to ignore it?

Anyways as someone that uses 100% mac app (Final Cut Pro, Safari) for 95% of my workflow, 5% (photoshop & lightroom), I think I will have no problem with M1 at all! Cant wait!
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QUOTE(Ziet Inv @ Nov 23 2020, 05:25 PM)
The article seems to be very lopsided and may only represent a really small percentage of Mac users - it was widely reviewed as not friendly to non-Mac native app (though performs well with Rosetta) yet he choose to ignore it?

Anyways as someone that uses 100% mac app (Final Cut Pro, Safari) for 95% of my workflow, 5% (photoshop & lightroom), I think I will have no problem with M1 at all! Cant wait!
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to be fair, for those who want to use Microsoft Edge/Third party softwares or software that can run only in X86 framework, should just stick to INTEL/Windows pc/laptop....they shouldn't consider Mac at all...

This post has been edited by kevinpss: Nov 23 2020, 05:43 PM
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I would like to ask about Apple care.
It says can buy within 12 months of purchase.

Does it means it’s better to buy when the first year warranty almost over? Instead of buying it on day one.

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