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post Mar 25 2021, 12:27 PM

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QUOTE(MakeAWishKid @ Mar 22 2021, 12:14 AM)
ok after reading 80% of the discussion here, I am still skeptical. C716 65" is RM4199 like everyone mentioned, I heard many online reviewers say that HDR, HDR10+ and Dolby Vision have little to no effect at such low peak brightness and you have to nit pick to actually see the differences between HDR and DV content so i'm going to disregard those "features". That being said, would all of you still go for C716 or a Sony/LG/Samsung?(Mainly for the brand name reliability)

More specifically,
LG 70" UN7300 at RM3999 (300-350 nits+- brightness, IPS panel with Magic Remote)
Sony 65" X8000H at RM3800 (400-530 nits+- brightness, IPS panel with overall better picture quality than LG)
Samsung 65" TU8000/TU8500 at RM 3800(300 nits+- brightness, VA panel so better contrast ratio than both above)

Based on Rtings.com all 3 brand models above lose to the TCL series 5 but we can't definitively say C715/6 has the same picture quality as series 5.
So with HDR/10+ and Dolby Vision being disregarded (at least to me) would you guys still go for the TLC715/6?
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I was waiting for Sony 55” X90H for a few months and it was always out of stock. Best price I can find is $3,599. Main reasons are good review of picture quality and was rated top reliability in some US surveys.

Note: My LG got panel problem only after 2 years watching right after warranty period expired. Cost 1k++ to fix and decided to forget about fixing. Nowadays TV start having problems within 2 to 3 years. This is according to TCL technician. You should consider buying extended insurance if you decided to buy expensive TV.

Saw a review on brand reliability and came to conclusion that the higher price you paid, the more reliable the TV. So much for brand reliability... OLED basically top rated in term of reliability (paying top dollar also) regardless of which brand (top end Samsung QLED models included). Simple logic: more money you paid, more QC/QA will be done by the brand.

Main reason I bought TCL QLED 55” is the pricing: RM2,933 + 10% Shopee coins.

TCL Service took back the TV to fix due to slightly bend/curve screen... Hmm... should have bought the Sony instead.

After using Android TV for while, there is no going back to LG... LG/Samsung are just too restrictive like using iPhone. Now that I had jailbroken and saw no reason to be back to jail again...

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post Mar 25 2021, 12:50 PM

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QUOTE(stasio @ Mar 25 2021, 02:13 AM)
Again V999 ........V8-R851T02-LF1V999

http://na-update.cedock.com/apps/resource2...V999.018486.zip

build.date= Mar 8 2021
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Is this version stable?
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post Mar 25 2021, 01:17 PM

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QUOTE(Packer @ Mar 25 2021, 12:50 PM)
Is this version stable?
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Installed and not much difference with V625 (official firmware).
Except date, size of zip file is 6 MB bigger.

V625.....24.02.2021
(1,398,202,170 bytes)

V999.....08.03.2021
(1,404,068,899 bytes)

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Edit:
Hope soon should be available V6xx new version.

Btw,

RT51 Service Manual

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post Mar 25 2021, 04:18 PM

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QUOTE(Packer @ Mar 25 2021, 12:27 PM)
I was waiting for Sony 55” X90H for a few months and it was always out of stock. Best price I can find is $3,599. Main reasons are good review of picture quality and was rated top reliability in some US surveys.

Note: My LG got panel problem only after 2 years watching right after warranty period expired. Cost 1k++ to fix and decided to forget about fixing. Nowadays TV start having problems within 2 to 3 years. This is according to TCL technician. You should consider buying extended insurance if you decided to buy expensive TV.

Saw a review on brand reliability and came to conclusion that the higher price you paid, the more reliable the TV. So much for brand reliability... OLED basically top rated in term of reliability (paying top dollar also) regardless of which brand (top end Samsung QLED models included). Simple logic: more money you paid, more QC/QA will be done by the brand.

Main reason I bought TCL QLED 55” is the pricing: RM2,933 + 10% Shopee coins.

TCL Service took back the TV to fix due to slightly bend/curve screen... Hmm... should have bought the Sony instead.

After using Android TV for while, there is no going back to LG... LG/Samsung are just too restrictive like using iPhone. Now that I had jailbroken and saw no reason to be back to jail again...
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Thanks for the detailed information, I think i'm gonna wait until X80J launch and see the prices again. So far the US msrp for X80J is way higher than X80H so I don't have my hopes up.
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post Mar 26 2021, 04:44 PM

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QUOTE(@r3|4^2 @ Mar 11 2021, 09:22 AM)
Sorry boss late reply.. thank go0dness mine is just nice no kinks..
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After spending a couple of days at the factory, the technician there managed to straighten my TV. I think only a TV factory can really done that as I was skeptical they can straighten it. In fact, they really assemble TV there.

This morning they bought my TV back to my house and voila... It is straight and the screen no more dented inward at top center.

I asked what happened and the technician said likely due to mishandling during shipping as there were two straight markings at the box (one marking near top center). Note: The box was not broken and the foams inside were intact. Conclusion: there might be some risk when the TV is not send by their own lorry.

The technician told me his factory provide after sales warranty services to few brands (he mentioned these brands:TCL, Hisense and Skyworth). I asked the technician what TV brand tends to have less problems in general. He said TCL, LG and Panasonic (surprise no Sony and Samsung).

I am just glad my TV is now fixed and will be careful when buying online from seller who use courier service.


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post Mar 26 2021, 04:51 PM

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QUOTE(stasio @ Mar 25 2021, 01:17 PM)
Installed and not much difference with V625 (official firmware).
Except date, size of zip file is 6 MB bigger.

V625.....24.02.2021
(1,398,202,170 bytes)

V999.....08.03.2021
(1,404,068,899 bytes)

user posted image

Edit:
Hope soon should be available V6xx new version.
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Thanks for the info. I skip this version.
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post Mar 27 2021, 02:46 PM

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Guys,
anybody watched new HDR10 4K60 video clip from @Jacob + Katie Schwarz ?
In latest YouTube/SmartTube Next (V625 & 999).
WiFi 5G.....160/170 Mbps

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3SjX_X0oGxo

I getting a lot of dropped frames and is not so smooth.

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Edit:
Downloaded from YT (758 MB) with 4KDownloader and playing with local player in HDR10...no problem

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post Mar 27 2021, 09:38 PM

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Just played the video, just some minor drop frame at the beginning of the video...all smooth later on.

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post Mar 28 2021, 02:29 PM

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QUOTE(kfthoo @ Mar 27 2021, 09:38 PM)
Just played the video, just some minor drop frame at the beginning of the video...all smooth later on.
Thx for testing.

From various forums, latest V999 fix sound issue (AV sync issue).

I think we should wait longer time for new update, as TCL are busy now with 2021 models.
Seems to be new platform (MT96?) ,as MediaTek MT9615 with Cortex A-73 (1600MHz) appear in spec.

55C728
https://www.displayspecifications.com/en/model/b296257f

Edit:

F1 season started....... biggrin.gif

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post Mar 29 2021, 10:33 AM

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Using VPN to watch HBO Max...the usual android TV has switched to the new google tv interface...but when turn off the VPN, it will return to android tv 9... smile.gif
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post Mar 30 2021, 05:01 PM

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QUOTE(stasio @ Mar 28 2021, 02:29 PM)
I think we should wait longer time for new update, as TCL are busy now with 2021 models.
Seems to be new platform (MT96?) ,as MediaTek MT9615 with Cortex A-73 (1600MHz) appear in spec.

55C728
https://www.displayspecifications.com/en/model/b296257f
2021 models on TCL Vietnam web page....
https://www.tcl.com/vn/en/products.allProducts.html

(43/50/55/65/75") 55P725...LED
https://www.tcl.com/vn/en/products/p725/p725-55.html

(50/55/65/75") 50C725...QLED
https://www.tcl.com/vn/en/products/c725/c725-50.html

RT51M Platform (Realtek RTD2851M)
Android R (11) Android TV UI + TCL TV UI
CPU 64-bit A55×4 1.3GHz
GPU G31x2 800MHz
RAM 2GB :DDR3-1866
ROM 16GB: eMMC5.0
50/60 Hz MEMC


55/65C728...QLED...not coming here sad.gif

https://www.tcl.com/vn/en/products/c728/c728-55.html
https://www.tcl.com/vn/en/products/c728/c728-65.html

55/65C825...MiniLED..real competitor for Sony, LG, Samsung.. brows.gif ..not coming here sad.gif

https://www.tcl.com/vn/en/products/c825/c825-55.html
https://www.tcl.com/vn/en/products/c825/c825-65.html

MT9615 Platform (MediaTek MT9615)
Android R (11) Android TV UI + TCL TV UI
CPU Cortex A-73x4 1.6GHz
GPU G52(2EE)MP2, 550Mhz
RAM 3GB :DDR4-2666
ROM 32GB :eMMC5.0
100/120 HZ MEMC

P725/ C725 => RT51M Platform........ (existing models P815 and X915)
C728/ C825 => MT9615 Platform........(new)

Edit:
"Old" chip (RT51...P715/C716) will be overclock to 1.3GHZ instead of 0.9-1.1GHZ and getting new GPU..... G31 instead of Mali470......HDMI 2.1...etc....
Seems TCL is slightly changing web page.

This post has been edited by stasio: Nov 29 2021, 07:26 PM
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post Mar 31 2021, 11:06 PM

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QUOTE(Packer @ Mar 25 2021, 12:27 PM)
I was waiting for Sony 55” X90H for a few months and it was always out of stock. Best price I can find is $3,599. Main reasons are good review of picture quality and was rated top reliability in some US surveys.

Note: My LG got panel problem only after 2 years watching right after warranty period expired. Cost 1k++ to fix and decided to forget about fixing. Nowadays TV start having problems within 2 to 3 years. This is according to TCL technician. You should consider buying extended insurance if you decided to buy expensive TV.

Saw a review on brand reliability and came to conclusion that the higher price you paid, the more reliable the TV. So much for brand reliability... OLED basically top rated in term of reliability (paying top dollar also) regardless of which brand (top end Samsung QLED models included). Simple logic: more money you paid, more QC/QA will be done by the brand.

Main reason I bought TCL QLED 55” is the pricing: RM2,933 + 10% Shopee coins.

TCL Service took back the TV to fix due to slightly bend/curve screen... Hmm... should have bought the Sony instead.

After using Android TV for while, there is no going back to LG... LG/Samsung are just too restrictive like using iPhone. Now that I had jailbroken and saw no reason to be back to jail again...
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I think my 65 inch is also slightly curve on the top. Just received it today. There is a gap when I run a thread from both ends of the tv.

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post Apr 1 2021, 12:51 PM

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QUOTE(Packer @ Mar 26 2021, 04:44 PM)
After spending a couple of days at the factory, the technician there managed to straighten my TV. I think only a TV factory can really done that as I was skeptical they can straighten it. In fact, they really assemble TV there.

This morning they bought my TV back to my house and voila... It is straight and the screen no more dented inward at top center.

I asked what happened and the technician said likely due to mishandling during shipping as there were two straight markings at the box (one marking near top center). Note: The box was not broken and the foams inside were intact. Conclusion: there might be some risk when the TV is not send by their own lorry.

The technician told me his factory provide after sales warranty services to few brands (he mentioned these brands:TCL, Hisense and Skyworth). I asked the technician what TV brand tends to have less problems in general. He said TCL, LG and Panasonic (surprise no Sony and Samsung).

I am just glad my TV is now fixed and will be careful when buying online from seller who use courier service.
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Thanks goodness bro your TV finally 'straight' lol rclxm9.gif

QUOTE(stasio @ Mar 30 2021, 05:01 PM)
2021 models on TCL Vietnam web page....
https://www.tcl.com/vn/en/products.allProducts.html

(43/50/55/65/75") 55P725...LED
https://www.tcl.com/vn/en/products/p725/p725-55.html

(50/55/65/75")  50C725...QLED
https://www.tcl.com/vn/en/products/c725/c725-50.html

RT51M Platform (Realtek RTD2851)
Android R (11) Android TV UI + TCL TV UI
CPU 64-bit A55×4 1.3GHz
GPU G31x2 800MHz
RAM 2GB :DDR3-1866
ROM 16GB: eMMC5.0
55/65C728...QLED...not coming here  sad.gif

https://www.tcl.com/vn/en/products/c728/c728-55.html
https://www.tcl.com/vn/en/products/c728/c728-65.html

55/65C825...MiniLED..real competitor for Sony, LG, Samsung.. brows.gif ..not coming here  sad.gif

https://www.tcl.com/vn/en/products/c825/c825-55.html
https://www.tcl.com/vn/en/products/c825/c825-65.html

MT9615 Platform (MediaTek MT9615)
Android R (11) Android TV UI + TCL TV UI
CPU Cortex A-73x4 1.6GHz
GPU G52(2EE)MP2, 550Mhz
RAM 3GB :DDR4-2666
ROM 32GB :eMMC5.0
P725/ C725 => RT51M Platform........ (existing models P815 and X915)
C728/ C825 => MT9615 Platform........(new)

Edit:
"Old" chip (RT51...P715/C716) will be overclock to 1.3GHZ instead of 0.9-1.1GHZ and getting new GPU..... G31 instead of Mali470......HDMI 2.1...etc....
Seems TCL is slightly changing web page.
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ahh what a pity.. i wonder how much those mini LEDs series would sell here..
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post Apr 2 2021, 11:39 AM

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QUOTE(kokomon @ Mar 31 2021, 11:06 PM)
I think my 65 inch is also slightly curve on the top. Just received it today. There is a gap when I run a thread from both ends of the tv.

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If you use the thread to measure at the bottom across, I believe there is gap as well. I think it’s fine as long as the screen not dented inward.

Your TV screen (polarizer film) dented inward at top? My TV screen was dented inward at top center before it was fixed.

You can also check for any marking on the box like this?

TCL technician told me that it is a frameless design and can easily bend if mishandled.

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QUOTE(@r3|4^2 @ Apr 1 2021, 12:51 PM)
Thanks goodness bro your TV finally 'straight' lol  rclxm9.gif
ahh what a pity.. i wonder how much those mini LEDs series would sell here..
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Maybe the new QLED or Mini LED will come year end coz QLED C716 only available here in Oct 2020.
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post Apr 3 2021, 06:03 AM

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Hi guys,

I am a newbie here that already purchased same tv as you guys

Last time i have used philips 7374 and sell it to my relatives. One thing i happy about this tv is because of the memc/motion flow features.

i purchase first tcl716 without knowing this features not available (buy first regret later) biggrin.gif but it's okay still can adapt to it.

Just wanted to know, when i play unifitv apps, the display seem not sharp and look to SD quality.

Is it because of the performance of cpu/gpu/ram of the tv causing that behaviour?
I did install hbo go and try to run justice league (the source mention it hd) but the display seem not sharp/optimize.

In case this behaviour cause by the hardward limitation, is it using external box (nvidia shield tv) will make it improve?

Im using unifi 100mbps connect using wifi5ghz (zte) and the router just beside tv ( no interference between tv and router)

Appreciate your input.
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post Apr 3 2021, 10:07 AM

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QUOTE(zurbox31 @ Apr 3 2021, 06:03 AM)
Hi guys,

I am a newbie here that already purchased same tv as you guys

Last time i have used philips 7374 and sell it to my relatives. One thing i happy about this tv is because of the memc/motion flow features.

i purchase first tcl716 without knowing this features not available (buy first regret later) biggrin.gif but it's okay still can adapt to it.

Just wanted to know, when i play unifitv apps, the display seem not sharp and look to SD quality.

Is it because of the performance of cpu/gpu/ram of the tv causing that behaviour?
I did install hbo go and try to run justice league (the source mention it hd) but the display seem not sharp/optimize.

In case this behaviour cause by the hardward limitation, is it using external box (nvidia shield tv) will make it improve?

Im using unifi 100mbps connect using wifi5ghz (zte) and the router just beside tv ( no interference between tv and router)

Appreciate your input.
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I have unifi TV and the picture quality is on par with other apps like Tencent, YouTube and etc... Have you updated your firmware?

My setting for Picture Preset is Dynamic. I did notice some Picture Preset settings not working well with Unifi TV.

By the way, my TV firmware is V625.

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post Apr 3 2021, 10:52 AM

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QUOTE(Packer @ Apr 3 2021, 10:07 AM)
I have unifi TV and the picture quality is on par with other apps like Tencent, YouTube and etc... Have you updated your firmware?

My setting for Picture Preset is Dynamic. I did notice some Picture Preset settings not working well with Unifi TV.

By the way, my TV firmware is V625.
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Regarding about the firmware, i haven't upgrade yet and still remain ori v606.

And the picture setting i set to low power mode with manual colour calibration.

Some time i found out while play youtube/netflix, i saw square pixel even source 1080p.

Nvm i try upgrade first the firmware
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post Apr 3 2021, 11:38 AM

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QUOTE(stasio @ Mar 25 2021, 02:13 AM)
Again V999 ........V8-R851T02-LF1V999

http://na-update.cedock.com/apps/resource2...V999.018486.zip

build.date= Mar 8 2021
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Is there any different this version and v625?



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QUOTE(zurbox31 @ Apr 3 2021, 10:52 AM)
Regarding about the firmware, i haven't upgrade yet and still remain ori v606.

And the picture setting i set to low power mode with manual colour calibration.

Some time i found out while play youtube/netflix, i saw square pixel even source 1080p.

Nvm i try upgrade first the firmware
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For TCL TV, I recommend you try Movie presets.

I use this setting as recommend by rtings

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