For Onkyo, there is no term as "Large" or "Small" speakers.

Whenever you can set a crossover frequencies, that means the speaker is "Small" in general speaker term. The "Full Band" means no crossover is done, this actually means you're setting the speaker as "Large".

Crossover capable = Small
Full Band = Large

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Added on December 9, 2008, 2:54 pm

Augustinesoh explained it already.

This post has been edited by aiman04: Dec 9 2008, 02:56 PM

haha,thanks again aiman04 and augustinesoh

So it the Audyssey suggest we set it to "small" which i should set the freq,which freq should i use ? ( my spk respone 38-150,4 ohms )

just get a 805, asking a newbie question here..not quite familiar with the settings..
1) while watching dvd movie using dolby digital or dts mode better? wat about if watching concert?
2) why sometims it display THX cinema and sometimes just DTS? depends ont he DVD played?
3) after audyssey setting i found the dialogue of the center speaker rather soft, adviceable for me to manually adjust the level? and where to adjust it?

Aiyah! Ur Onkyo can lah! It is refer to as 'Full Band' which meant u got full floor standing spk as ur front. Other avr will refer it as 'large spk'!

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Added on December 9, 2008, 4:01 pmWah! Good set up! how much arrr???

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Added on December 9, 2008, 4:05 pmDon't use composite out use s-cable out from astro decoder the use ur avr to up-convered the signal! If u r using 42" LCD/Plasma the pq will be better!

This post has been edited by HornyAngMoh: Dec 9 2008, 04:05 PM

Hi, is anyone here using 4 ohm setting on their receiver?

I found this web page (http://www.hometheaterhifi.com/processor-and-receiver-reviews/ssps/onkyo-tx-sr806-thx-ultra2-plus-7.1-av-receiver_6.html) showing lower power consumption for 4 ohm setting and so I tried.

I noticed that 4 ohm setting generates a lot lesser heat compared to 6 ohm.
Yesterday I watched a movie and listened to some music for 2 hours and the temperature is only about 42C using 4 ohm setting without using any fan. Usually if using 6 ohm setting the temperature might goes up to 60C.

i'm using 4 ohm setting as my speaker is 4 ohm nominal 38-20Hz ( previous post wrongly mentioned 38-150) I seldom chk the temp but past few days when i chk ( with 7.5cm USB fan) ,it show 35/36 C,b4 that normally arr 39/40C .

Are you using 4ohm rated speakers? I wonder why this makes a difference in the temperature?

1) DTS, since it uses less compression.
2) THX Cinema is one of the different Listening Modes you can choose on the 805 receiver. Just press the SURR and THX buttons on your 805's remote when watching a movie to cycle between the different available listening modes (which will change depending on whether you are watching a DVD, listening to a CD, etc).
3) You should check the center speaker level by watching different movies. I noticed some of my movies hv a relatively lower volume on the center channel compared to others. Audyssey normally does a good job setting speaker levels and distances for everything except the subwoofer. In my case, the level set by Audyssey worked fine and even the softer dialogue passages in certain movies were still clear/loud enough to understand. If you need to adjust this, you can find it under Speaker Settings - Speaker Level (or something like that - i don't hv my manual with me right now so may not hv got the names exactly right).

From what I've read, Audyssey will keep track of changes made to your speaker levels post-calibration and compensate accordingly, so it should be OK to tweak your speaker levels after an Audyssey calibration and still get the benefits. I pushed my subwoofer level up another +5dB since I found Audyssey set this a little too low for my liking.

This post has been edited by augustinesoh: Dec 10 2008, 01:44 PM

thx augustine:)
1) i found when using dolby digital is a bit louder than using DTS..but cant hear any difference between them..
2) wat about the EQ calibration menu? anything to play around there?
3) currently using 40" LCD HD ready, can i know about the upscaling thing on the 805? wat it means by that is that after upscaling the 2 black stripes on top n below of the dvd movie will dissapear and become full screen?
sorry..newbie here..and first timer own an AVR...

DTS > DD & most DVDs r now encoded w. DTS unless older movies or pasar malam DVDs.

U can default DTS or THX mode when watching DVDs via the set-up menu. Prefer THX as the bass is more umphh.

I oso got the same problem with soft dialogue, thot its due to my centre having smaller drivers then my fronts.
Just go to speaker set-up and adjust the volume but need to adjust it back down when listening to music although these days been using stereo mode thanz to advise fr Onkyo si-fus.

I did the DIY like HornyAngMoh (modified h/p charger) but the fan is going at fairly slow speed, wonder whether can jack into the Zone 2 12V outlet? Anyone tried it? Will I short-out my AVR?

How do u guyz connect ur CD player to AVR? Analog interconnectors or Digital? My Hi-Fi friends insist analog sounds warmer but of course their tube equipments are meant for analog. As for HT equipments, would digital be better?

I am using 6 ohm speakers. According to the web review, the 4 ohm setting will set the power supply to use lower voltage and limit the current to prevent the receiver from overheating when using low impedance speakers.

swine,DTS should be much better then DD, quite suprise u didnt hear any diff. The EQ i set it to DynamicEQ after the audyssey calibration,EQ XT is my other option.I dun think upscalling will make the black bar disappear,it all depends from ur sources.If not mistaken,most LCD these days can "zoom" the pic to full screen without black bar but that's not the original resolution.

rakyet,why not juz bought a 7.5cm single fan cost arround RM35,recently saw at PC fair CD > AVR i'm still using the RCA plug,i'm using Taralabs interconnect at the moment.My CD is Denon 1550AR and Marantz 63KI signature. Saw a used Audio Note CD 1.1 selling < 5k,hati manyak gatal now

Thot it was the other way - lower ohm will strain the amp and cause more heat?

If ur speakers are rated 6 ohms, by driving it 4 ohms won't it cause damage to amp and/or speakers? Can any si-fu advise as my speakers are rate 6 ohms and I drive it at 8 ohms. Which is better option?

all this while i tot 4ohm spks are more difficult to drive therefore required more power from amp

1. IMHO DTS offers better soundstage and surround effect. Using DD vs. DTS can definitly hear difference mayb not calibrated properly or 'pasar malam' DVD

2. If u already use audyssey EQ, u don't need to do EQ adjustment or else it overwrite audyssey. I feel audyssey does a better job then manual adjustment but need to readjust the crossover of the speakers as its tend to rate my speakers as 'full band'

3. 805 upscales up to 720p i.e. ur DVDs or Astro if connected via HDMI to ur LCD will look better (420i upscaled to 720p); the blackstripes will sometimes still be there depending on ur DVD screen format (u oso cannot control the screen setup on ur LCD)

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Added on December 10, 2008, 2:58 pmya-la using single (taken fr my computer) instead of 2 fans like Horny but still fan is slow speed coz the h/p charger output is only 5v instead of 12v. Went to Digital mall but all the fan uses either USB or 12v jacks no 3 pin option.

Means my 'ayam' intercon no good-la coz can hear distortion but switch to Toslink no distortion. And they said cables do not make any difference Y use so many CDP? My Hi-fi fren buy mid range CDP (Rotels & Marantzs) and mod & re-bias & use with 30k Thiel speakers

This post has been edited by rakyat: Dec 10 2008, 02:58 PM

after audyssey calibrated,even u manually adjust the EQ u can still use the DynamicEQ as preset.I'm using the 5v USB 3-pin plug to connect to power plug at home,the single 7.5cm USB fan really does the job I might oso want to mod the CDP but so far i still love the CDP,untill one day my love on them hilang then baru i mod lor

After mod u lagi cinta

the thing i notice is the sound is lower volume in DTS..may i shud tested it out wit other DVDs..

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Added on December 10, 2008, 4:49 pm1) wat u eman by calibrating properly? recalibrate Audyssey again? but i m using pasar malam DVDs..
2) the upscale to 720p means better in picture quality? currently i m using analogue cable for dvds..will it be a big diff if i using a HDMI cable? any difference to the sound quality as well?

This post has been edited by swine: Dec 10 2008, 04:49 PM

I am currently watching Astro upscaled to 720p by my Onkyo and do notice a difference in PQ.

Depending on which analogue connection you are currently using, PQ may or may not be better. If you are using component video then with DVD being only an SD source, the PQ should be about on par with HDMI. If your DVD player has HDMI out and TV has HDMI in, you should still consider using HDMI if only because it's current technology. Not so sure about sound quality, though. If you're already outputting audio from your DVD player using a digital audio connection (e.g., optical or coaxial), then i would say there is little difference compared to HDMI. I'm guessing it only really makes a difference with HD content (e.g., Bluray) with HD audio sources such as Dolby TrueHD or DTS HD MA.

hi all sifu's
im planning to get this entry level onky 606..
any idea where can i get at a very very nice price??
how much issit in kl and also compared to singapore??issit realli much cheaper there??
thanks for ur guidance..