What you are looking for is a speaker switch! I'm not sure if such a device exists or even if it does would it not alter the signal. Unless your front speakers have 2 inputs with selector switch.

One thing to note is that the power ratings that you see on the AVRs are not the same as the power rating you see in the dedicated amps. For instance, the Onkyo 875 is rated at 140W per channel, but my Holfi is supposed to be rated at 65W per channel only. The amount of high current power that the Holfi can dish out is definately more than what the Onkyo can put out! I believe the way the AVR guys report their power is not the same as the what the Audio guys report their power ratings. I have seen this referenced somewhere, but I am cannot remember where. So in actual, it might work out that the Audio Research even though the power ratings are showing "only" 50W per channel, it might deliver more punch than the 875/876.

go itt... great explanation... much to learn from you guys.... cheers

ya,i actually got speaker switch / selector but it looks "cheap" and it's cheap,less then RM100 if not mistaken.The one that i own is Amp/Spk selector actually,u not only can switch the spk,but can connect 2 diff amp and able to swicth too ( my next upgrade of AVR should hv 2 spks selector)

I believe the Naim high end AVRs have that. If u do, pls sell ur 876 to me

hehe,actually i just realised if i happen to have 2nd pair of spk,i might as well connect it directly from CD > Amp > Spk,no point going to Onkyo

I never encounter this problem after watching more than 40BDs.

according the the overseas forums most of them suffer from this problem watching hd pay tv.. i guess we r safe from the problem:)... i actually notice some lip sync problem when i was watching astro singing program when the camera closed in on the lips of the singer then suddenly i realised there was a lip sync problem just that i wasnt paying much attention to it... so sometimes if u purposely look for it u might find the lipsync problem.. according to some forums to test lip sync problem, simply on the tv speakers n your other speakers through your avr.. if your speakers through avr are echoing the tv speakers that means got lip sync problem... i tested many many times n everytime also got echo:).. but most of the shows i cant tell at all unless i look for the problem.. .. it is really too minor to bother me at all except that time when the camera close in on the lips.. now how often would the camera close in on the lips... only during singing programs n adult movies (no adult movies in astro anyway) i dont have problems during dvd playback.. but i havent tried looking for the problem too during dvd playback ... so if it exists it must be very very minor until i dont notice it

This post has been edited by mys_terious: Dec 1 2008, 12:03 PM

lol

When u guyz listen to audio (CDs) which DSP or surround do u prefer? PLx II / THX / analog / pure audio?

Assuming u do not have a separate set-up for music only.

I normally use PL II but found many Onkyo AVR owners recommend using pure audio. The problem is I have set my main speakers as small (cut off at 60 hz) and pure audio disable the sub. Hence although much warmer sound with clearer highs, it lacks low-end bass.

any lip sync delay adjustable function for the 805?
marantz,denon do hav this function

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Added on December 3, 2008, 10:12 amhmmm...thinking of this prob too..
but many pros those hifi kakis..they just listen to 2 chnl stereo onli..
no subs for their system..
so the sound is pure n clean, and without any other addictive..
me too prefer bass for music..so i not yet reach the highest lvl of hifi kakis

This post has been edited by swine: Dec 3 2008, 10:12 AM

With 876,i prefer in Stereo mode,with bass and treble control,"pure" mode seem lack of ummph for me

Prefer pure audio 2.0...clean hi-fi sound

If pure audio disable the sub, will the main speaker get back the frequency below 60hz in pure audio?

As far as I know, pure audio will send the entire spectrum as received from the source without filtering to the front speakers.

yes it will get full range signal.. but whether your speakers can sing those freq is another matter..

I don't advise you use Pure Audio if your speakers are not full range (full band), which means it must be able to produce at least 30Hz or lower. Use Stereo mode instead.

With Pure Audio on, everthing will be fed to the speakers because the crossover will be bypassed, and no processing is done by the receiver. If your speakers are not full range, not only you won't be able to hear the low frequencies, but it could potentially hurt the speakers. This is where the subwoofer comes into the picture, to supplement the lower frequencies. Put your crossover correctly and do proper calibration and you're good to go.

This post has been edited by aiman04: Dec 4 2008, 08:52 AM

Got it. Tried listening @ pure audio again and yes the bass was seriously lacking. Check my speaker range and it only goes down to 40 hz. There is a noticable different in the sound quality & clarity btw pure audio and stereo besides the bass hence I rather go back to PLII to get a wider soundstage.

Next - to upgrade to better fronts in order to enjoy pure audio. Dali Ikon 6

The thing is Dali Ikon6 does not go below 37Hz as well. I only use Pure Audio for concert BDs that have PCM uncompressed 2 channel. Since I use front pre-outs to my integrated amp and my amp has a subwoofer output for frequencies below 37Hz to 26Hz it is safe. But as Aiman says if your speakers cannot take it and the output levels for the range below your main speaker capabilites are high you can damage your speakers. This applies for the high end of the frequency spectrum as well.

My opinion is that for critical music listeners, AVRs in the range of higher end Onkyos, Denons and even Yamahas do not produce the same level of music as independent pre/power or integrated amps. I have tried hooking up my CD player to the Onkyo and although it is not a blind audition, to my ears the music thru a independent amp is much better than using an AVR to listen to music.

The problem is a lot of people out there would say they do not see a difference between different interconnects and different speakers cables but I do. I guess each individual is different. Being able to hook everything up to an AVR is great. Since everything is then controlled globally. Unfortunately, it is not an option for me. Maybe the Naim solution would work, but it is extremely expensive.

Sort of expected this type of answer as we move deeper into the discussion since we r in the audiophile section.

And I do agree that AVR is not fr Hi-Fi discrete listening. Ya, I can hear a huge difference in the music (same Diana Krall CD) from my friend's blue circle pre & power amp + thiel speakers. It like noise (AVR) vs. music (tube amp)

I heard Naim with AVR features but how does it works? Its Naim Nait 5i got that features or only the Super Nait? I love Naim 's sound but the outlooks rather disappointed,but that's only me