QUOTE(Zaryl @ Feb 6 2020, 01:04 PM)
Well, in the thread context... it will be a tool to acquire knowledge.PPSMI: Think of future of Malay community, says Mahathir
PPSMI: Think of future of Malay community, says Mahathir
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Feb 6 2020, 01:24 PM
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Feb 6 2020, 01:26 PM
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QUOTE(pg84 @ Feb 6 2020, 01:23 PM) Why don't all in English not just science n math. It's better, else the kids will hv headached switching between languages..... Imagine u gather with ur friends. Need to speak malay to Ali, mandarin to ahkow n then tamil to muthu.... Better all speak english don't asking for moon lah. 1 size fits all not going to happen.Multi-school system for each group of people is the solution. |
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Feb 6 2020, 01:28 PM
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Feb 6 2020, 01:28 PM
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Feb 6 2020, 01:30 PM
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QUOTE(pg84 @ Feb 6 2020, 01:23 PM) Why don't all in English not just science n math. It's better, else the kids will hv headached switching between languages..... Imagine u gather with ur friends. Need to speak malay to Ali, mandarin to ahkow n then tamil to muthu.... Better all speak english impossible, sure got people shout "Eh, ini UK ke atau Malaysia ?" or "这根本就是针对华人,慕羊犬高兴咯" |
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Feb 6 2020, 01:35 PM
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Diu no learn Engrand also mani Malaysia pipu hair turn blonde, eyes turn blue and show boobies halfway like angmoh. No mid learn lah.
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Feb 6 2020, 01:36 PM
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QUOTE(pg84 @ Feb 6 2020, 01:23 PM) Why don't all in English not just science n math. It's better, else the kids will hv headached switching between languages..... Imagine u gather with ur friends. Need to speak malay to Ali, mandarin to ahkow n then tamil to muthu.... Better all speak english i is going prebet school. ali muthu ahkow all speak england to each other. syiok 1msia group |
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Feb 6 2020, 01:41 PM
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QUOTE(nasi lemak 20 sen @ Feb 6 2020, 12:51 PM) There is the need to improve English for progressive Malay. summed up the problem with this country in one post.But for conservative Malay, there is no need to improve English. Understand these 2 sentences first. Now this. Sekolah Kebangsaan is conservative Malay home-turf. You introduce more English stuff in their home-turf guarantee will fail one. Solution is to create a new space for progressive Malay, the new English school. So, this is a win-win solution. nanti i kasi you PM8 post |
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Feb 6 2020, 01:44 PM
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QUOTE(pg84 @ Feb 6 2020, 01:23 PM) Why don't all in English not just science n math. It's better, else the kids will hv headached switching between languages..... Imagine u gather with ur friends. Need to speak malay to Ali, mandarin to ahkow n then tamil to muthu.... Better all speak english We have malay language for social conversation 🤦♂️🤦♂️ |
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Feb 6 2020, 01:46 PM
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QUOTE(duHwaN @ Feb 6 2020, 01:24 PM) High school science and math is pretty basic, which we have extensive reading materials that written in mother tongue for decades. For those who pursuing in STEM, which our higher education institutions use English as medium shouldn't be a problem to our undergrads to acquire other advance science and math knowledge beyond varsities.People don't understand, we already have PPSMI in universities in all our STEM programmes since forever. So your premise doesn't hold. This post has been edited by letitsnow: Feb 6 2020, 01:47 PM |
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Feb 6 2020, 01:58 PM
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QUOTE(funnyTONE @ Feb 6 2020, 01:23 PM) Some people lived in malaysia their whole lives but couldn't speak BM. So what is your suggestion?How I wonder. This sort of mentality is what leads to education gap between rural and city students. Being the government, you have to look after its people from all walks of life, taking into consideration the advantages and disadvantages different community possess and then give them the fairest amount of opportunity for all. |
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Feb 6 2020, 02:01 PM
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the gap will be widened for sure...poor will remain poor
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Feb 6 2020, 02:01 PM
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QUOTE(nasi lemak 20 sen @ Feb 6 2020, 12:51 PM) There is the need to improve English for progressive Malay. Then the conservative Malay gets jealous and dengki of the school, then protest again saying maruah tercabar la, mengagungkan bahasa barat la. But for conservative Malay, there is no need to improve English. Understand these 2 sentences first. Now this. Sekolah Kebangsaan is conservative Malay home-turf. You introduce more English stuff in their home-turf guarantee will fail one. Solution is to create a new space for progressive Malay, the new English school. So, this is a win-win solution. Then what happen next. |
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Feb 6 2020, 02:13 PM
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QUOTE(letitsnow @ Feb 6 2020, 01:46 PM) High school science and math is pretty basic, which we have extensive reading materials that written in mother tongue for decades. For those who pursuing in STEM, which our higher education institutions use English as medium shouldn't be a problem to our undergrads to acquire other advance science and math knowledge beyond varsities. There would be a case how many can successfully adapt from BM to English without falling too far behind.People don't understand, we already have PPSMI in universities in all our STEM programmes since forever. So your premise doesn't hold. Also, there would be a question of the quality of our own material, speed to update vs. what is available out there. Cloistered environment is not very good for learning something so universal... make English an option, and see how many will opt for it. then compare the performance level between the 2 group. This post has been edited by duHwaN: Feb 6 2020, 02:28 PM |
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Feb 6 2020, 02:15 PM
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Feb 6 2020, 02:15 PM
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QUOTE(Drian @ Feb 6 2020, 02:01 PM) Then the conservative Malay gets jealous and dengki of the school, then protest again saying maruah tercabar la, mengagungkan bahasa barat la. Good reply.Then what happen next. First, you have to think. Why they jealous of English school ? 1) Students from English school have got good job, better pay than SMK school. But this jealousy only will last 1 generation. Later these people will send their sons and daughters to English school. |
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Feb 6 2020, 02:26 PM
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QUOTE(letitsnow @ Feb 6 2020, 01:46 PM) High school science and math is pretty basic, which we have extensive reading materials that written in mother tongue for decades. For those who pursuing in STEM, which our higher education institutions use English as medium shouldn't be a problem to our undergrads to acquire other advance science and math knowledge beyond varsities. Is a problem because they have not been familiarized with the language when they were in high school.People don't understand, we already have PPSMI in universities in all our STEM programmes since forever. So your premise doesn't hold. |
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Feb 6 2020, 02:27 PM
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I sokong penggunaan bahasa penjajah!
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Feb 6 2020, 02:33 PM
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QUOTE(aliesterfiend @ Feb 6 2020, 01:15 PM) English is a Germanic language formed by a fusion of Old English and Norse. If you want to talk about religion or science or law or medicine you must use Latinate words (from French or Latin) and a smattering of Greek. English is basically a skinny barely functional body of Germanic (bones, basic organs and muscles) with a huge overgrowth and brain of Latin and Greek words, more than trebling it in size. Sort of like a massive genius head crab perched on a hillbilly. Brunei no problem at all using English in teaching Math, Science subjects...Brunei > All |
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Feb 6 2020, 02:34 PM
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QUOTE(pg84 @ Feb 6 2020, 01:23 PM) Why don't all in English not just science n math. It's better, else the kids will hv headached switching between languages..... Imagine u gather with ur friends. Need to speak malay to Ali, mandarin to ahkow n then tamil to muthu.... Better all speak english Why not all speak Bahasa? |
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