Cos sked compete with his kids that grad from International university?

Personally, English or BM doesn't matter.

Most important part is updating the syllabus to reflect the current need and consistency in implementing policy.

The problem with our politician is flip-flopping in policy and keep changing things around. Sekejap itu, sekejap ini, sekejap gabung Higher Education Ministry with Education Ministry, sekejap split again to Education Ministry and Higher Education Ministry. Those things used up resources, time and money to do.

Study and discuss properly with interested parties then implement. Stick with it with improvement along the way.

if you bother about science term in English, then dual language programme (DLP) is already addressed that. they still could learn in mother tongue with awareness of terminologies in English.

Still, back then i dont have DLP either, bcoz it's not that hard to figure it out, or open the dictionary (today just google, even better!), to look for an English term. I personally think if a person have a hard time with malay to english terminology, STEM is not his/er path.

Whatever la, keep DLP open at least... Last time PPSMI jalan for like 10 years liao, then suddenly putar balik...

But no doubt, the comprehension of English of some professionals these days really worries... You say one thing, they act as though they understand, but they interpret it as other things...

This post has been edited by EatFriesEggs: Feb 6 2020, 12:21 PM

Totally agree

Please shut down detractors and implement it

My take on PPSMI.

This PPSMI will fail. Will last as long as atuk in charge.

This is a huge political prize to be scored for BN, PAS. Even PH themselves when atuk retired.

There are 2 groups, progressive and conservative in fight now.

Progressive wants English, liberal etc. Think Zaid Ibrahim kind of people.

Conservative group of course no need explanation. Think Katak Ibrahim type of people.

The only solution to improve English is to introduce SRJE and SMJE which stand for "Sekolah Rendah Jenis English" and Sekolah Menengah Jenis English".

Conservative group won't go to SRJE or SMJE.

Meanwhile progressive group (READ: Malay) will have option in English school. The non-Malay too have option to join English school.

30 years later, we can smoke Singapore 9 street far away.

Malaysians that go to school from Std 1 to Form 5 will have taken at least 11 years of English lessons.

How is it that their english is still bad?

If basic already fail , then there's no point considering them. What's the point of considering people who fail english.
If they're lazy and don't want to learn then too bad.


This is to improve people who are below average to average and average to above average. If fail too bad.

Its not talking about the top ranks, which we're far behind in the first place.
Its talking about the degradation of the existing ranking which proves the program doesn't reflect on the expected results.

He never consulted and see why it failed in the first place.

Inb4 teaching kids that flour is pronounced as flah.

Same applies to math.

cause our syllabus sucks

Tak abis abis Malay & Islam dilemma

ok ok. i agree.

which political side doesn't really matter when you can see right now, i mean right now how great the english proficiency of our PPSMI fresh graduates. isn't there a study posted yesterday about 60% grads unemployed after a year in industry? So?

Some people still believe in PPSMI myth? lol

This post has been edited by letitsnow: Feb 6 2020, 12:40 PM

you want it in BM no problem...but what technology advancement you can offer to the world? nothing

i like mahathir. i do.

reduce number of agama hours. increase english hours

The point is degradation exist even after, change back BI to BM.
Suppose it's not a problem bcoz there is dual language option in text book or exam paper.
Malaysian English also not that bad, we are better than most asian. Normally, science & match teach in simple english.
Maybe english is not a problem afterall; most or grandparent/ parent also study in english in early day of Malaysia or British time...

There are a lot of factors for degradation, not bcoz language...
Maybe our syllabus suck. International standard maybe different, higher or use more simpler math formula.
By the time they test it, no matter in BM or BI, our student cant score well.

This post has been edited by khusyairi: Feb 6 2020, 12:45 PM

Most cannot follow the class since standard 1. And teacher only communicate with those who already know English. Those speak English at home ones.


I am surprised you didn't know this.