QUOTE(lagista @ Feb 6 2020, 02:33 PM)
So migrate to Brunei.PPSMI: Think of future of Malay community, says Mahathir
PPSMI: Think of future of Malay community, says Mahathir
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Feb 6 2020, 02:34 PM
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Feb 6 2020, 02:34 PM
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Feb 6 2020, 02:35 PM
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English is the way to go.
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Feb 6 2020, 02:36 PM
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UMNO, Pas bantah pelaksanaan semula PPSMI https://www.sinarharian.com.my/article/6834...an-semula-PPSMI |
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Feb 6 2020, 02:38 PM
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Feb 6 2020, 02:40 PM
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Feb 6 2020, 02:41 PM
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Feb 6 2020, 02:42 PM
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QUOTE(aliesterfiend @ Feb 6 2020, 02:38 PM) Teach algenra, algorithm, cipher, average, azimuth, cube, nadir, zenith and degree in Arabic since those words came from Arabic. That would happen if we were still in the 10th/11th century, but since then math has progressed to more than these Arabic words and concepts. |
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Feb 6 2020, 02:42 PM
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Feb 6 2020, 02:43 PM
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QUOTE(M4A1 @ Feb 6 2020, 11:54 AM) PETALING JAYA: Penasihat Parti Keadilan Rakyat (PKR), Datuk Seri Anwar Ibrahim sekali lagi menggesa kerajaan memansuhkan dasar Pengajaran dan Pembelajaran Sains dan Matematik dalam Bahasa Inggeris (PPSMI). Pergh ni baru U-Turn ni hahahahahahahaha"Kita sekali lagi ulangi desakan ini. Kita tuntut Timbalan Perdana Menteri (Tan Sri Muhyiddin Yassin, jangan lengah-lengahkan lagi dan laksanakan segera dasar pendidikan kebangsaan dengan mengembalikan Bahasa Melayu sebagai Bahasa Kebangsaan dan mendaulatkannya sebagai bahasa rasmi dalam sistem pendidikan kita. "Kita minta mereka (kerajaan BN) kembali mengajar mata pelajaran Sains dan Matematik di sekolah kebangsaan dalam Bahasa Melayu," katanya pada sidang media selepas mempengerusikan mesyuarat Majlis Pimpinan Tertinggi parti itu hari ini. |
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Feb 6 2020, 02:44 PM
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Feb 6 2020, 02:46 PM
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QUOTE(nasi lemak 20 sen @ Feb 6 2020, 12:51 PM) There is the need to improve English for progressive Malay. Later will sure be targeted by certain people one.But for conservative Malay, there is no need to improve English. Understand these 2 sentences first. Now this. Sekolah Kebangsaan is conservative Malay home-turf. You introduce more English stuff in their home-turf guarantee will fail one. Solution is to create a new space for progressive Malay, the new English school. So, this is a win-win solution. "Schools which prioritized English in Math and Science s causing disunity among Malaysian should be closed". "Companies are racist when using math and scientific term in English where "our people" can't master". |
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Feb 6 2020, 02:46 PM
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QUOTE(Spear2 @ Feb 6 2020, 02:42 PM) That would happen if we were still in the 10th/11th century, but since then math has progressed to more than these Arabic words and concepts. I was mentioning about the term. Maths, like music are a language of its own. You can teach them in any other languages. 1+1 is equally correct whether you teach them either as satu campur satu or one plus one.You can teach maths and science in whatever language pupils eaiser to get a grasp with and understand while teaching English at the same time as secondary language. By the time in university, it doesnt matter to learn anything else, not just math and science in English. |
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Feb 6 2020, 02:49 PM
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QUOTE(duHwaN @ Feb 6 2020, 02:44 PM) Not saying that. I only speak English (mostly) at work. Life is not just about work. I dont speak English at kedai nasi campur Ali, workshop Ahkaw or kedai runcit Muthu.From an efficiency point of view, learning english would be the most efficient in terms of effort to gain. BM is an indulgence, some may not be able to afford (learning capacity) |
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Feb 6 2020, 02:51 PM
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QUOTE(aliesterfiend @ Feb 6 2020, 02:49 PM) I only speak English (mostly) at work. Life is not just about work. I dont speak English at kedai nasi campur Ali, workshop Ahkaw or kedai runcit Muthu. well because we indulged and picked BM to be the compulsory languagelimited resources demand efficient use of what is available. This post has been edited by duHwaN: Feb 6 2020, 02:52 PM |
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Feb 6 2020, 03:04 PM
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QUOTE(aliesterfiend @ Feb 6 2020, 02:46 PM) I was mentioning about the term. Maths, like music are a language of its own. You can teach them in any other languages. 1+1 is equally correct whether you teach them either as satu campur satu or one plus one. At primary school level more yes for math than science, it is about the symbols, logical operation, and basic understanding, but as you progress into high school you learn fundamental concept and definition. These words are defined in English more than they were in BM. This is very important because concepts and definitions are basic structures which you used in higher learning. It is expected that you are not troubled by the jargon and precise definition, but only the knowledge and learning thru reasoning and argument. If you are troubled, then your learning will be reduced.You can teach maths and science in whatever language pupils eaiser to get a grasp with and understand while teaching English at the same time as secondary language. By the time in university, it doesnt matter to learn anything else, not just math and science in English. How do you introduce these math and science definitions/concepts in an English class then? |
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Feb 6 2020, 03:07 PM
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QUOTE(bereev @ Feb 6 2020, 11:54 AM) u see Korean, Japan,, Indonesian and even Thailand , they dun learn English in school but has better economy than us , better pay attention on Race and Religion first Ya right, Japan have 9 years of English classes in their national edu. Problem is they memorize to score the exam instead of understanding them. |
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Feb 6 2020, 03:10 PM
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QUOTE(Spear2 @ Feb 6 2020, 03:04 PM) At primary school level more yes for math than science, it is about the symbols, logical operation, and basic understanding, but as you progress into high school you learn fundamental concept and definition. These words are defined in English more than they were in BM. This is very important because concepts and definitions are basic structures which you used in higher learning. It is expected that you are not troubled by the jargon and precise definition, but only the knowledge and learning thru reasoning and argument. If you are troubled, then your learning will be reduced. I have to agree on this.How do you introduce these math and science definitions/concepts in an English class then? What a nightmare to see all the definitions in BM and need to be translated into English especially in higher education. PPSMI is good, leave it be. |
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Feb 6 2020, 03:11 PM
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