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post Jan 21 2020, 10:42 PM, updated 6y ago

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It’s about time we have a thread for this car 👍🏻
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post Feb 7 2020, 08:39 PM

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Is there some body have buy this car already?
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Aftermarket Corolla 2019 head unit at AliExpress. Those feel Corolla head unit is ugly can consider this.

Not sure functional wise, it will have all the functions or not.

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post Mar 20 2020, 12:00 PM

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thinking of getting this car, but the head unit really ugly, end up took CX5
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post Mar 21 2020, 11:29 AM

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Over priced car...
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post Mar 25 2020, 11:15 AM

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This car handling is very good, especially when go over bumps and uneven road. Overall have no regrets buying this car.
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post Mar 25 2020, 11:31 AM

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This car handling is very good, especially when go over bumps and uneven road. Overall have no regrets buying this car.
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smile.gif Congratulations ! How long have you own this car ?
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post Mar 25 2020, 11:35 AM

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wonder how's the sale of this car vs previous gen. hardly see this new model. so far counted less than 5 on the road.

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post Mar 26 2020, 12:00 PM

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I'm going to get my car too, loan just approved smile.gif
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this car vs civic.. which is better? now both is almost comparable in terms of price...
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post Mar 27 2020, 12:01 PM

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About 2 months from now. I got the pearl white G specs. The only thing i don't like is the automatic head light. I still prefer the conventional type when i can switch to auto or manual on/off the light. Now only have automatic on/off lights. So sometimes when go over toll booth, then it light up, and light off just after toll booth. Don't know how long my LED light can withstand with this keep on/off.


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smile.gif Congratulations ! How long have you own this car ?
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QUOTE(desmond-wong @ Mar 27 2020, 01:01 PM)
About 2 months from now. I got the pearl white G specs. The only thing i don't like is the automatic head light. I still prefer the conventional type when i can switch to auto or manual on/off the light. Now only have automatic on/off lights. So sometimes when go over toll booth, then it light up, and light off just after toll booth. Don't know how long my LED light can withstand with this keep on/off.
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It has a very rigid chassis and double wishbone rear suspension. How you find the comfort and handling ? Can share what leads up to your decision to get this car than others ?
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post Mar 27 2020, 05:46 PM

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It has a very rigid chassis and double wishbone rear suspension. How you find the comfort and handling ? Can share what leads up to your decision to get this car than others ?
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The look is good. CBU unit. Double wishbone seems convincing. I drove honda civic last time, comparing to this car, handling is as good as civic due to its low CG. The Toyota Safety Sense is good as well, i try the dynamic auto cruise, this car will slow down when sensing the front car suddenly slow down. thumbup.gif thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(desmond-wong @ Mar 27 2020, 06:46 PM)
The look is good. CBU unit. Double wishbone seems convincing. I drove honda civic last time, comparing to this car, handling is as good as civic due to its low CG. The Toyota Safety Sense is good as well, i try the dynamic auto cruise, this car will slow down when sensing the front car suddenly slow down.  thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(desmond-wong @ Mar 27 2020, 12:01 PM)
About 2 months from now. I got the pearl white G specs. The only thing i don't like is the automatic head light. I still prefer the conventional type when i can switch to auto or manual on/off the light. Now only have automatic on/off lights. So sometimes when go over toll booth, then it light up, and light off just after toll booth. Don't know how long my LED light can withstand with this keep on/off.
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Don't worry.
I have the ZRE173 version with 160k km.
LED still works fine. smile.gif
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Thinking of getting this car. Any good offer in Penang?
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Hey guys, as this car is at the moment quite rarely seen on the road, I'm curious about one thing.

I was told by a Sales Advisor that it takes up to 2 months+ to get the car.

Quite contradicting, are they really low on stock because there are so many buyers queuing or the SA is trying to sell the old units (ugly infotainment head units)?

Coz a week after the booking, SA told me, if I want quick, there's a RM3000 discount (because of the ugly head unit) and I can get the car much faster.

So is this a sales trick or for some reason, everyone who bought the car also had to wait 2-3 months (since UMW announced about the new head unit upgrade)?
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QUOTE(volrath @ Aug 17 2020, 06:38 PM)
Hey guys, as this car is at the moment quite rarely seen on the road, I'm curious about one thing.

I was told by a Sales Advisor that it takes up to 2 months+ to get the car.

Quite contradicting, are they really low on stock because there are so many buyers queuing or the SA is trying to sell the old units (ugly infotainment head units)?

Coz a week after the booking, SA told me, if I want quick, there's a RM3000 discount (because of the ugly head unit) and I can get the car much faster.

So is this a sales trick or for some reason, everyone who bought the car also had to wait 2-3 months (since UMW announced about the new head unit upgrade)?
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Thanks for the SST SST SST rebate under Covid 19 stimulus package. Discount percentage is vary in depending on car prices.

Many potential car owners are waiting 2 - 3 months after paid booking .. Not only Toyota car, you name any automotive brand, walk into any showroom, ask few questions, pretend to be a car buyer and you will get the same waiting periods..
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QUOTE(Crocus_fern @ Aug 17 2020, 11:58 PM)
Thanks for the  SST    SST    SST    rebate under Covid 19 stimulus package. Discount percentage is vary in depending on car prices.

Many potential car owners are waiting 2 - 3 months after paid booking .. Not only Toyota car, you name any automotive brand, walk into any showroom, ask few questions, pretend to be a car buyer and you will get the same waiting periods..
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Agreed! last week the salesman told me if i want buy, they need to check for stock. If no stock maybe will need to wait till next year due to SST rebate for next year yet to confirm.
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QUOTE(desmond-wong @ Mar 27 2020, 05:46 PM)
The look is good. CBU unit. Double wishbone seems convincing. I drove honda civic last time, comparing to this car, handling is as good as civic due to its low CG. The Toyota Safety Sense is good as well, i try the dynamic auto cruise, this car will slow down when sensing the front car suddenly slow down.  thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif
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if stop go traffic like traffic jam can work ka? find this car not much user compare to civic.. does malaysia model comes with HUD?

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they still clearing the old infotainment head units?
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thinking of getting this car
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the black one looks nice
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wow this car really no owner in malaysia ka..
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wow this car really no owner in malaysia ka..
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Just got mine last weekend. Really loving the handling and suspension so far, really comfortable drive. Some things I'm not too happy about with the car:

- Keyless entry is only from driver's side. For me, I have a child to put/take out in the back seat on the left side, so I always have to lock/unlock using the key instead of keyless.
- Apple Carplay is only using cable, no wireless. Adding to that, the placement of the USB slot makes the cable interfere with my left hand while I drive.
- The door angle opening is not as wide as a Honda. This makes putting/taking out a child from a car seat a bit tight.
- Fuel consumption so far for city driving is 11-12 km/l on Eco mode. Don't know what other users are getting but I feel like this is pretty low compared to my wife's City.
- Sound system is so-so only.
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QUOTE(ocyrus @ Oct 8 2020, 01:53 PM)
Just got mine last weekend. Really loving the handling and suspension so far, really comfortable drive. Some things I'm not too happy about with the car:

- Keyless entry is only from driver's side. For me, I have a child to put/take out in the back seat on the left side, so I always have to lock/unlock using the key instead of keyless.
- Apple Carplay is only using cable, no wireless. Adding to that, the placement of the USB slot makes the cable interfere with my left hand while I drive.
- The door angle opening is not as wide as a Honda. This makes putting/taking out a child from a car seat a bit tight.
- Fuel consumption so far for city driving is 11-12 km/l on Eco mode. Don't know what other users are getting but I feel like this is pretty low compared to my wife's City.
- Sound system is so-so only.
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How is the nvh bro? Seems like not a convenient family car but i dont think alot car got all door keyless..

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QUOTE(ben3003 @ Oct 8 2020, 02:03 PM)
How is the nvh bro? Seems like not a convenient family car but i dont think alot car got all door keyless..
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The car responses very well to all the road undulations, so vibration is non-existent and the ride is smooth, I would say more comfortable than a Civic. But the noise from outside is a bit loud compared to other cars I've driven but nothing too serious. After a few days, got used to it already.

About the keyless, I'm just comparing it to a Honda which has both front doors keyless, so you can lock/unlock from either side.

I guess there's no perfect car out there. If I were to have bought a Civic, I'd probably complain about other things. I just hope the Corolla is a reliable car smile.gif


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QUOTE(ocyrus @ Oct 8 2020, 02:22 PM)
The car responses very well to all the road undulations, so vibration is non-existent and the ride is smooth, I would say more comfortable than a Civic. But the noise from outside is a bit loud compared to other cars I've driven but nothing too serious. After a few days, got used to it already.

About the keyless, I'm just comparing it to a Honda which has both front doors keyless, so you can lock/unlock from either side.

I guess there's no perfect car out there. If I were to have bought a Civic, I'd probably complain about other things. I just hope the Corolla is a reliable car  smile.gif
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Ah i see, i tot corrolla is very muted the nvh the previous gen. Yeah honda jazz also have front passenger side, i understand so actually dont need all door but at least both side should have keyless.

Dont worry corrolla is very reliable because the engine hasnt change for 10yrs i think lol. Only interior change but i see this gen looks much better than last gen. My surprise ia that the handling and suspension is good. I will go test drive. Really sad to see no fanbase here in msia for this car.
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QUOTE(ben3003 @ Oct 8 2020, 02:29 PM)
Ah i see, i tot corrolla is very muted the nvh the previous gen. Yeah honda jazz also have front passenger side, i understand so actually dont need all door but at least both side should have keyless.

Dont worry corrolla is very reliable because the engine hasnt change for 10yrs i think lol. Only interior change but i see this gen looks much better than last gen. My surprise ia that the handling and suspension is good. I will go test drive. Really sad to see no fanbase here in msia for this car.
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It's quite a head turner especially with the lights on and not many on the road, so people keep looking to see what car I'm driving icon_rolleyes.gif

It's the rear double wishbone suspension that makes the handling and suspension superb.

Yeah, quite sad that this thread is dead. Lots of Civic users on this forum. Try going on Facebook group "Altis Club Malaysia",it's quite lively but not a lot of Gen 12 users there.
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Is it really that no stock available for toyota corolla now?
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QUOTE(bolt1700 @ Oct 12 2020, 10:35 AM)
Is it really that no stock available for toyota corolla now?
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last i heard from SA a few months ago, seems true for the top spec with updated bigger HU. I guess UMW under estimated the demand (unexpected tax free incentives?) and didn't secure enough units from thai this year. Not sure if they manage to get more to come in this year.
but still there is so little on the road, hardly see any....
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QUOTE(EpsilonStar @ Oct 12 2020, 01:42 PM)
last i heard from SA a few months ago, seems true for the top spec with updated bigger HU. I guess UMW under estimated the demand (unexpected tax free incentives?) and didn't secure enough units from thai this year. Not sure if they manage to get more to come in this year.
but still there is so little on the road, hardly see any....
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I see, but some SA said no stock, some SA said can get in Dec..this is confusing cry.gif
Agree with you, i hardly see any new corolla on the road........
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QUOTE(ben3003 @ Oct 8 2020, 02:29 PM)
Ah i see, i tot corrolla is very muted the nvh the previous gen. Yeah honda jazz also have front passenger side, i understand so actually dont need all door but at least both side should have keyless.

Dont worry corrolla is very reliable because the engine hasnt change for 10yrs i think lol. Only interior change but i see this gen looks much better than last gen. My surprise ia that the handling and suspension is good. I will go test drive. Really sad to see no fanbase here in msia for this car.
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no fanbase is because of the price I guess.. it seems on the higher side with old engine, a lot people opt for civic becuz of the turbo engine.
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Anyone here changed from old batch Infotainment screen to newer one?
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QUOTE(ben3003 @ Sep 21 2020, 04:56 PM)
if stop go traffic like traffic jam can work ka? find this car not much user compare to civic.. does malaysia model comes with HUD?
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DRCC works for stop and go, just that it leaves too big of a gap with the car in front for our malaysian traffic that people will cucuk in and then the system will brake hard... We don't get HUD unfortunately

QUOTE(ocyrus @ Oct 8 2020, 01:53 PM)
- Keyless entry is only from driver's side. For me, I have a child to put/take out in the back seat on the left side, so I always have to lock/unlock using the key instead of keyless.
- Fuel consumption so far for city driving is 11-12 km/l on Eco mode. Don't know what other users are getting but I feel like this is pretty low compared to my wife's City.
- Sound system is so-so only.
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It's very annoying that there is no sensor on the passenger door, but on the bright side, at least you can unlock all doors from the driver's door handle when 2-stage unlocking is enabled instead of needing to use the key or the unlock button inside the car when you have other passengers

I get around 10-11km/L on short, jam PJ city driving and around 18km/L on highway driving.

The sound system on mine sounds great, but mine is the old JVCKenwood unit
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QUOTE(ocyrus @ Oct 8 2020, 01:53 PM)
Just got mine last weekend. Really loving the handling and suspension so far, really comfortable drive. Some things I'm not too happy about with the car:

- Keyless entry is only from driver's side. For me, I have a child to put/take out in the back seat on the left side, so I always have to lock/unlock using the key instead of keyless.
- Apple Carplay is only using cable, no wireless. Adding to that, the placement of the USB slot makes the cable interfere with my left hand while I drive.
- The door angle opening is not as wide as a Honda. This makes putting/taking out a child from a car seat a bit tight.
- Fuel consumption so far for city driving is 11-12 km/l on Eco mode. Don't know what other users are getting but I feel like this is pretty low compared to my wife's City.
- Sound system is so-so only.
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Were u considering Mazda 3 before you bought Altis ? If yes, what’s make you decide to go with Altis ?
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deposit paid, loan granted.

waiting for 2 weeks already, still no deliver date.
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QUOTE(asamalikum @ Nov 4 2020, 04:24 PM)
Were u considering Mazda 3 before you bought Altis ? If yes, what’s make you decide to go with Altis ?
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i was.

160K+ vs 130K+
combined all the review globally.

+ I am more a practical car user myself
- not need for speed type

+ fav comfortability over performance

New Corolla interior luxuryness is way way better than Honda ( craftmanship )
and on par with Madza 3.

exterior, for me is a Match. between Madza 3 and Corolla.
both are better than Civic.

Nothing justified the extra 30K for madza.
the low tier madza 3 is crap without all the semi autonomous function.
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QUOTE(asamalikum @ Nov 4 2020, 04:24 PM)
Were u considering Mazda 3 before you bought Altis ? If yes, what’s make you decide to go with Altis ?
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Yes I considered the Mazda 3, but then it was out of my budget.
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QUOTE(ocyrus @ Nov 5 2020, 09:17 AM)
Yes I considered the Mazda 3, but then it was out of my budget.
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in another word, if budget is not a concern, you'll go with Mazda 3?
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QUOTE(asamalikum @ Nov 5 2020, 09:33 AM)
in another word, if budget is not a concern, you'll go with Mazda 3?
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Oh for sure. Design wise exterior and interior far superior to Civic or Altis. Driving experience I would say equal to Altis. It comes with 6 years free service too. Too bad it's like RM1.7k/month for a C-segment car.

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QUOTE(ifourtos @ Nov 4 2020, 04:34 PM)
deposit paid, loan granted.

waiting for 2 weeks already, still no deliver date.
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From the Altis Gen 12 Facebook group, some are still waiting from September. Didn't your SA tell you when you can get the car before you booked? I bought from SA that can give me highest rebate and quickest delivery.
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QUOTE(ocyrus @ Nov 5 2020, 09:43 AM)
Oh for sure. Design wise exterior and interior far superior to Civic or Altis. Driving experience I would say equal to Altis. It comes with 6 years free service too. Too bad it's like RM1.7k/month for a C-segment car.
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1.7 is based on 60 or 84 months loan?
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QUOTE(asamalikum @ Nov 5 2020, 10:29 AM)
1.7 is based on 60 or 84 months loan?
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RM1.7k is based on 108mths. Close to RM2k for 84mths.
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QUOTE(ifourtos @ Nov 4 2020, 04:34 PM)
deposit paid, loan granted.

waiting for 2 weeks already, still no deliver date.
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I am waiting from end of August until now.
My loan will be expired by the end of November. XD
SA told me I can get my car this month , but I really wonder
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QUOTE(Gemini_ @ Nov 6 2020, 06:29 PM)
I am waiting from end of August until now.
My loan will be expired by the end of November. XD
SA told me I can get my car this month , but I really wonder
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what color u choose?
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QUOTE(ifourtos @ Nov 6 2020, 07:44 PM)
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Metallic silver.
But now feel like pearl white is nicer
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Hi owners,
Does Toyota offer free service for first few years?
and how long is the warranty period?

The TNGA platform and full suite of TSS are very tempting.
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Does anyone knows when umw would start prouduction of tnga altis locally? it has been quite a while since camry came to the market and its still cbu.
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QUOTE(Jack&Guild @ Dec 1 2020, 08:24 AM)
Does anyone knows when umw would start prouduction of tnga altis locally? it has been quite a while since camry came to the market and its still cbu.
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don't think it ever will. Altis has been cbu from thai for many years. only Vios is local assembled.
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QUOTE(EpsilonStar @ Dec 1 2020, 11:53 AM)
don't think it ever will. Altis has been cbu from thai for many years. only Vios is local assembled.
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But next generation vios will be based on tnga platform. And now perodua has also started their dnga production. Wonder what took so long for umw to setup their tnga locally.
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QUOTE(Jack&Guild @ Dec 2 2020, 06:03 PM)
But next generation vios will be based on tnga platform. And now perodua has also started their dnga production. Wonder what took so long for umw to setup their tnga locally.
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The next TNGA CKD in Msia most likely Corolla Cross.
Manufacturers are focusing on SUV and crossover CKD than C-segment sedan.

Corolla Altis has been CBU from Thailand even during the previous generation. C-segment is a dying breed in Msia and Civic is dominating the market. There will be little business case to CKD the sedan. SUV is a better bet


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QUOTE(twincharger07 @ Dec 5 2020, 07:44 AM)
The next TNGA CKD in Msia most likely Corolla Cross.
Manufacturers are focusing on SUV and crossover CKD than C-segment sedan.

Corolla Altis has been CBU from Thailand even during the previous generation. C-segment is a dying breed in Msia and Civic is dominating the market. There will be little business case to CKD the sedan. SUV is a better bet
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The reason why civic is killing it is because of the price point which is due to the fact its ckd.
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The reason why civic is killing it is because of the price point which is due to the fact its ckd.
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Any ongoing promotion for corolla altis?
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This is a good handling car, but because of X70 and civic price, it is underrated?

Any good offer now?
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This is a good handling car, but because of X70 and civic price, it is underrated?

Any good offer now?
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Got 12k offer for 2019 e spec at puchong branch..
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This is a good handling car, but because of X70 and civic price, it is underrated?

Any good offer now?
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stocks for 2020 is sold out for most of the branches that i known .
2021 stocks the fastest will be available after cny 2021

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QUOTE(twincharger07 @ Dec 5 2020, 07:44 AM)
The next TNGA CKD in Msia most likely Corolla Cross.
Manufacturers are focusing on SUV and crossover CKD than C-segment sedan.

Corolla Altis has been CBU from Thailand even during the previous generation. C-segment is a dying breed in Msia and Civic is dominating the market. There will be little business case to CKD the sedan. SUV is a better bet
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hopefully the TNGA CKD Corolla Cross will be launched next year, can't wait for it thumbup.gif
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how is the NVH for Corolla?
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Got 12k offer for 2019 e spec at puchong branch..
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Hi,

Saw 2019 E Spec ( white ) at Mudah with selling price 112K.
Asked for bit discount, but SA says already gave big discount.

Can share your purchase price ? I intent to get one too.

Thanks
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QUOTE(twincharger07 @ Dec 5 2020, 07:44 AM)
The next TNGA CKD in Msia most likely Corolla Cross.
Manufacturers are focusing on SUV and crossover CKD than C-segment sedan.

Corolla Altis has been CBU from Thailand even during the previous generation. C-segment is a dying breed in Msia and Civic is dominating the market. There will be little business case to CKD the sedan. SUV is a better bet
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hopefully after ckd the price will be lower for Corolla Cross
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Anyone got their new Corolla recently? can share the experience?
seems like not very common, not seeing much on the road
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QUOTE(Thunder_Bolt @ Mar 10 2021, 02:21 AM)
Anyone got their new Corolla recently? can share the experience?
seems like not very common, not seeing much on the road
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Collected mine 2 weeks ago. Overall a very comfy and family car with all the right safety feature. Control panel with minimal design to ease accessing while driving. The large 7" Multi-information display which comes with Apple Car and Android Auto is easy to use. Only downside is not much compartment available especially card slot at dashboard.

Overall a car worth paying.

From an Altis owner since 2010.

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Anyone got their new Corolla recently? can share the experience?
seems like not very common, not seeing much on the road
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this is because of pricing.
personally i feel even same engine & transmission
after tuning by toyota , overall respone is better then previous .
if you are from klang valley , can contact me for a test drive
feel it instead of listen to other
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QUOTE(ooice @ Mar 11 2021, 06:39 PM)
Collected mine 2 weeks ago. Overall a very comfy and family car with all the right safety feature. Control panel with minimal design to ease accessing while driving. The large 7" Multi-information display which comes with Apple Car and Android Auto is easy to use. Only downside is not much compartment available especially card slot at dashboard.

Overall a car worth paying.

From an Altis owner since 2010.
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Thanks for sharing the experience.
It must be giving you very good impression hence you have been choosing it since 2010.
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QUOTE(vinceTRD @ Mar 11 2021, 08:57 PM)
this is because of pricing.
personally i feel even same engine & transmission
after tuning by toyota , overall respone is better then previous .
if you are from klang valley , can contact me for a test drive
feel it instead of listen to other
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Thanks for sharing the opinion.

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QUOTE(ooice @ Mar 11 2021, 06:39 PM)
Collected mine 2 weeks ago. Overall a very comfy and family car with all the right safety feature. Control panel with minimal design to ease accessing while driving. The large 7" Multi-information display which comes with Apple Car and Android Auto is easy to use. Only downside is not much compartment available especially card slot at dashboard.

Overall a car worth paying.

From an Altis owner since 2010.
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Do u find the car to be too low with te new TNGA?
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Do u find the car to be too low with te new TNGA?
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Compared to the previous generation, yes, it's lower, but not as low as Civic. Nonetheless, the seat can be adjusted to be higher thru the automated seat control switch. This is for driver seat only.

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This thread seems quiet, maybe not many owners..
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QUOTE(Thunder_Bolt @ Mar 19 2021, 01:21 PM)
This thread seems quiet, maybe not many owners..
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More on fb group..
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More on fb group..
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got the group link?

Btw.. is there any common problem that the new altis face?
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Any promotion of Altis G spec? Hear from friend that need to wait two to three months after booking, everyone rushing for SST waive.

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Any promotion of Altis G spec?  Hear from friend that need to wait two to three months after booking, everyone rushing for SST waive.
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Mine booking on early Jan, car collected on end Feb.

No special promotion when I booked in Jan.

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Mine booking on early Jan, car collected on end Feb.

No special promotion when I booked in Jan.
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Thanks for your reply.
I think i need to go to showroom today and have a test drive, wanna to get it before the SST waive period end. laugh.gif
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Thanks for your reply.
I think i need to go to showroom today and have a test drive, wanna to get it before the SST waive period end. laugh.gif
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Any updates on your test drive?

How much rebates are they giving now? And how long waiting period?
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Any updates on your test drive?

How much rebates are they giving now? And how long waiting period?
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I done the test drive last Thursday. SA deducted 1.5K and expected delivery date is mid/end of June. laugh.gif
SA said if cannot get the car by June.......UMW may come out with other "rebate"....just guessing.
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QUOTE(psiloveu @ Apr 1 2021, 02:58 PM)
I done the test drive last Thursday.  SA deducted 1.5K and expected delivery date is mid/end of June. laugh.gif
SA said if cannot get the car by June.......UMW may come out with other "rebate"....just guessing.
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1.5 k rebates only, not that much hmm.gif

delivery in mid/end june is gonna cut it very close. haih sad.gif
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QUOTE(JoeK @ Apr 1 2021, 03:09 PM)
1.5 k rebates only, not that much  hmm.gif

delivery in mid/end june is gonna cut it very close. haih  sad.gif
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I saw ad from mudah.com.my, the price is much lower but only at KL.
Due to CMCO, I can't cross state to KL.

Overall, this car is really comfort drive, simple and nice.

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QUOTE(psiloveu @ Apr 1 2021, 02:58 PM)
I done the test drive last Thursday.  SA deducted 1.5K and expected delivery date is mid/end of June. laugh.gif
SA said if cannot get the car by June.......UMW may come out with other "rebate"....just guessing.
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which branch of dealer showroom did you go to?
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which branch of dealer showroom did you go to?
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I went to Jelutong road SD Tama branch.
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Heard that it is long queue now to wait for the car..
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I got mine after 3 weeks. Toyota Manjung able to reserve a car for end of March delivery.

Nizam, Seri Manjung.

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I got mine after 3 weeks. Toyota Manjung able to reserve a car for end of March delivery.

Nizam, Seri Manjung.

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Congratulation!
I think every showroom get their own quota from UMW.
I heard from my friend at KL, he only managed to book low spec for Altis.
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QUOTE(izam3369 @ Apr 5 2021, 04:59 PM)
I got mine after 3 weeks. Toyota Manjung able to reserve a car for end of March delivery.

Nizam, Seri Manjung.

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Congrats..Nice car!

How come the front grill and front side grills are not chrome but black in color? pasted these with black stickers?

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Congrats..Nice car!

How come the front grill and front side grills are not chrome but black in color? pasted these with black stickers?
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Yes, wrap with black sticker...
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What is these black dot sticker on windscreen for ? Any special purpose ?

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behind the rear view mirror?
I think it is called the windscreen third visor frit, to block the sunlights in between the two fold down visors..althought some people say that is the antenna..not really sure on this.

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Just updated by SA yesterday, loan approved and car should be delivered by mid of Jun.

What is the brand for ori tyre?
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behind the rear view mirror?
I think it is called the windscreen third visor frit, to block the sunlights in between the two fold down visors..althought some people say that is the antenna..not really sure on this.
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is to reduce the sun ray so when you are looking at your room mirror you wont get distracted by sun ray.. Imagine you are looking at room mirror and the sun is setting / raising at that particular angle..
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QUOTE(psiloveu @ Apr 14 2021, 09:35 AM)
Just updated by SA yesterday, loan approved and car should be delivered by mid of Jun.

What is the brand for ori tyre?
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dunlop sport maxx 050
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dunlop sport maxx 050
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Not michelin primacy anymore?
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dunlop sport maxx 050
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Thank you for the reply.


https://tyrepricemalaysia.com.my/dunlop-tyre-price

for the link info, this tyre is "Made in Japan", is it correct?

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Not michelin primacy anymore?
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not sure about last time, but 2021 model is dunlop.


QUOTE(psiloveu @ Apr 15 2021, 10:06 AM)
Thank you for the reply.
https://tyrepricemalaysia.com.my/dunlop-tyre-price

for the link info, this tyre is "Made in Japan", is it correct?
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made in thailand
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not sure about last time, but 2021 model is dunlop.
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Thanks for the reply.
Had went through some reviews about the tyre, quite good .
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Thanks for the reply. 
Had went through some reviews about the tyre, quite good .
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https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/5030846

got owner's review about the tyre here.
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QUOTE(Thunder_Bolt @ Apr 29 2021, 12:34 PM)
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/5030846

got owner's review about the tyre here.
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Thanks for the thread, really a good info about the car and the tyre. biggrin.gif
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i rather choose Passat R-Line for their adaptive chasis control especially on different road situations. plus they have spacious boot space, win for long journey travelling.
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passat R line is totally different class to altis......some more the price is 50% ++higher than altis, cannot compare lah. confused.gif
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Hi All,

Received my Corolla Altis celestite grey 2 weeks after booking in April. SA made special arrangement to get 2 weeks delivery. At first, I had a tinge of regret since I had downgraded from an 8 year old Camry. But after a month, very happy with the Corolla. Changed the stock tyres (Dunlop SP Sports) to Michelin Primacy 4 with small trade in amount and the car is a lot quieter and refined. The Dunlop made a sound like banging an empty oil barrel every time it hits a bump. Dimensionally Corolla is 45 mm narrower and 190 mm shorter than Camry XV50 but interior feels a lot smaller. Since not many Corolla 12th gen on the road, I feel kinda unique and won't mistake my car in the parking lot!

Plus points:
- Very good fit and finish being CBU Thailand
- Relaxed drive, handles bumps and undulations without jarring
- Good handling
- Loaded with tech Toyota Safety Sense
- Android Auto is great even though using cable. Can use Waze from phone that is displayed on the 9" screen and navigation can be used while using radio. Can control navigation and radio volume separately
- Rear aircon vents can be turned off (eg when only 2 passengers in front)
- All speed radar cruise control can be used in slow moving traffic down to zero km/h (have to reactivate if stopped too long). When LTA (Lane Trace Assist) is turned on, the car can drive itself for short distance before it warns you to take the wheel. I tried this in low speed traffic but wouldn't recommend at high speed.

Minus points:
- Lack of storage spaces except for 2 cup holders. Front cubby space taken up by wireless phone charger, which works, but when phone slides around due to cornering, the charging stops when the phone is off centre in the charger space. The console box in the middle is also very small and there are no holes in the door armrests (to put house keys, for eg)
- Infotainment screen display is a bit dim, even at brightest setting
- Sound system is just so-so

Here's the full list of tech features:
- 7 airbags
- TNGA (Toyota New Global Architecture) chassis with double wishbone rear suspension
- CVT (Continously Variable Transmission) 7 speed simulated with paddle shifters
- PCS (Pre-Collision System) for autonomous emergency braking
- DRCC (Dynamic Radar Cruise Control) at all speeds
- AHB (Automatic High Beam)
- LDA (Lane Departure Alert)
- LTA (Lane Tracing Assist)
- TPWS (Tyre Pressure Warning System)
- EPB (Electronic Parking Brake) with Auto Brake Hold
- BSM (Blind Spot Monitor)
- DVR (Digital Video Recorder) front and rear
- PVM (Panoramic View Monitor) for 360 degree view
- VSC (Vehichle Stability Control) with TRC (Traction Control)
- HAC (Hill-Start Assist Control)
- VTS (Vehicle Telematics System) to trace car if stolen
- ESS (Emergency Stop Signal)
- ECO and SPORT mode with paddle shifters
- Electrochromic (auto dimming) rear view mirror
- Auto headlights with Follow-Me-Home Function
- Auto rain sensing wipers with auto wiper speed control
- Auto folding wing mirrors when locking the car
- Android Auto and Apple Carplay
- Wireless Qi phone charger

You can get in touch with my SA, Hugo at +60 18-773 3736, and see if he can get a fast delivery for you.

Cheers!

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Hi All,

Received my Corolla Altis celestite grey 2 weeks after booking in April. SA made special arrangement to get 2 weeks delivery. At first, I had a tinge of regret since I had downgraded from an 8 year old Camry. But after a month, very happy with the Corolla. Changed the stock tyres (Dunlop SP Sports) to Michelin Primacy 4 with small trade in amount and the car is a lot quieter and refined. The Dunlop made a sound like banging an empty oil barrel every time it hits a bump. Dimensionally Corolla is 45 mm narrower and 190 mm shorter than Camry XV50 but interior feels a lot smaller. Since not many Corolla 12th gen on the road, I feel kinda unique and won't mistake my car in the parking lot!

Plus points:
- Very good fit and finish being CBU Thailand
- Relaxed drive, handles bumps and undulations without jarring
- Good handling
- Loaded with tech Toyota Safety Sense
- Android Auto is great even though using cable. Can use Waze from phone that is displayed on the 9" screen and navigation can be used while using radio. Can control navigation and radio volume separately
- Rear aircon vents can be turned off (eg when only 2 passengers in front)
- All speed radar cruise control can be used in slow moving traffic down to zero km/h (have to reactivate if stopped too long). When LTA (Lane Trace Assist) is turned on, the car can drive itself for short distance before it warns you to take the wheel. I tried this in low speed traffic but wouldn't recommend at high speed.

Minus points:
- Lack of storage spaces except for 2 cup holders. Front cubby space taken up by wireless phone charger, which works, but when phone slides around due to cornering, the charging stops when the phone is off centre in the charger space. The console box in the middle is also very small and there are no holes in the door armrests (to put house keys, for eg)
- Infotainment screen display is a bit dim, even at brightest setting
- Sound system is just so-so

Here's the full list of tech features:
- 7 airbags
- TNGA (Toyota New Global Architecture) chassis with double wishbone rear suspension
- CVT (Continously Variable Transmission) 7 speed simulated with paddle shifters
- PCS (Pre-Collision System) for autonomous emergency braking
- DRCC (Dynamic Radar Cruise Control) at all speeds
- AHB (Automatic High Beam)
- LDA (Lane Departure Alert)
- LTA (Lane Tracing Assist)
- TPWS (Tyre Pressure Warning System)
- EPB (Electronic Parking Brake) with Auto Brake Hold
- BSM (Blind Spot Monitor)
- DVR (Digital Video Recorder) front and rear
- PVM (Panoramic View Monitor) for 360 degree view
- VSC (Vehichle Stability Control) with TRC (Traction Control)
- HAC (Hill-Start Assist Control)
- VTS (Vehicle Telematics System) to trace car if stolen
- ESS (Emergency Stop Signal)
- ECO and SPORT mode with paddle shifters
- Electrochromic (auto dimming) rear view mirror
- Auto headlights with Follow-Me-Home Function
- Auto rain sensing wipers with auto wiper speed control
- Auto folding wing mirrors when locking the car
- Android Auto and Apple Carplay
- Wireless Qi phone charger

You can get in touch with my SA, Hugo at +60 18-773 3736, and see if he can get a fast delivery for you.

Cheers!
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Thanks for your sharing.
Regarding the tyre matter, the ori is 225/45/17, but the new michelin primacy 4 is 205/55/17.....can it fit in properly?

https://www.michelin.com.my/auto/tyres/michelin-primacy-4
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QUOTE(psiloveu @ May 12 2021, 01:41 PM)
Thanks for your sharing.
Regarding the tyre matter, the ori is 225/45/17, but the new michelin primacy 4 is 205/55/17.....can it fit in properly?

https://www.michelin.com.my/auto/tyres/michelin-primacy-4
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Hi,
Primacy 4 is available in 225/45/17 although I don't know why they don't include in their website (I also checked Michelin Malaysia website and couldn't find it. My mechanic got the right size for me).

Hope this helps.

Cheers!

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For those who find the 12th gen Corolla's internal storage somewhat lacking, can consider this item. It is a small container that is wedged in between the centre console and front seat. Not very large, but can hold house keys and a bottle of hand sanitizer (or a mobile phone or face masks) in order to free the cup holders for, well, holding cups! rclxm9.gif

You could fit 2 of these (left and right front seat gaps) but for me, 1 is sufficient otherwise the cup holder will get blocked.

Can get from Shopee here: https://shopee.com.my/product/42583013/3107795221
Comes in 3 colours and has a rubber piece at the bottom to stop stuff from sliding around. Doesn't look like genuine leather, probably not for RM 17.90. Note: I'm not the seller, just sharing here in case any one might be looking for something like this.

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QUOTE(sulimc @ May 12 2021, 12:03 PM)
Hi All,

Received my Corolla Altis celestite grey 2 weeks after booking in April. SA made special arrangement to get 2 weeks delivery. At first, I had a tinge of regret since I had downgraded from an 8 year old Camry. But after a month, very happy with the Corolla. Changed the stock tyres (Dunlop SP Sports) to Michelin Primacy 4 with small trade in amount and the car is a lot quieter and refined. The Dunlop made a sound like banging an empty oil barrel every time it hits a bump. Dimensionally Corolla is 45 mm narrower and 190 mm shorter than Camry XV50 but interior feels a lot smaller. Since not many Corolla 12th gen on the road, I feel kinda unique and won't mistake my car in the parking lot!

Plus points:
- Very good fit and finish being CBU Thailand
- Relaxed drive, handles bumps and undulations without jarring
- Good handling
- Loaded with tech Toyota Safety Sense
- Android Auto is great even though using cable. Can use Waze from phone that is displayed on the 9" screen and navigation can be used while using radio. Can control navigation and radio volume separately
- Rear aircon vents can be turned off (eg when only 2 passengers in front)
- All speed radar cruise control can be used in slow moving traffic down to zero km/h (have to reactivate if stopped too long). When LTA (Lane Trace Assist) is turned on, the car can drive itself for short distance before it warns you to take the wheel. I tried this in low speed traffic but wouldn't recommend at high speed.

Minus points:
- Lack of storage spaces except for 2 cup holders. Front cubby space taken up by wireless phone charger, which works, but when phone slides around due to cornering, the charging stops when the phone is off centre in the charger space. The console box in the middle is also very small and there are no holes in the door armrests (to put house keys, for eg)
- Infotainment screen display is a bit dim, even at brightest setting
- Sound system is just so-so

Here's the full list of tech features:
- 7 airbags
- TNGA (Toyota New Global Architecture) chassis with double wishbone rear suspension
- CVT (Continously Variable Transmission) 7 speed simulated with paddle shifters
- PCS (Pre-Collision System) for autonomous emergency braking
- DRCC (Dynamic Radar Cruise Control) at all speeds
- AHB (Automatic High Beam)
- LDA (Lane Departure Alert)
- LTA (Lane Tracing Assist)
- TPWS (Tyre Pressure Warning System)
- EPB (Electronic Parking Brake) with Auto Brake Hold
- BSM (Blind Spot Monitor)
- DVR (Digital Video Recorder) front and rear
- PVM (Panoramic View Monitor) for 360 degree view
- VSC (Vehichle Stability Control) with TRC (Traction Control)
- HAC (Hill-Start Assist Control)
- VTS (Vehicle Telematics System) to trace car if stolen
- ESS (Emergency Stop Signal)
- ECO and SPORT mode with paddle shifters
- Electrochromic (auto dimming) rear view mirror
- Auto headlights with Follow-Me-Home Function
- Auto rain sensing wipers with auto wiper speed control
- Auto folding wing mirrors when locking the car
- Android Auto and Apple Carplay
- Wireless Qi phone charger

You can get in touch with my SA, Hugo at +60 18-773 3736, and see if he can get a fast delivery for you.

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Tried DRCC (Cruise Control), easy to trigger, can change the cruising speed manually, distance alert and auto speed reduction is prompt. One of the best feature from Toyota especially when you are cruising on highway.

For aircon, I found that the temperature setting is more accurate compared to previous generation of Altis. For example for older gen Altis, even if you set the temp at highest temp (28C), it's still freezing cold during rainy day. No such problem in this new gen Altis. During rainy day, the aircon is able to blow at comfortable breeze, which feels like cool air mix with some warm air.

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QUOTE(sulimc @ May 12 2021, 03:11 PM)
Hi,
Primacy 4 is available in 225/45/17 although I don't know why they don't include in their website (I also checked Michelin Malaysia website and couldn't find it. My mechanic got the right size for me).

Hope this helps.

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Thank you very much for the sharing.
About the trade in, how much u top up for this tyre?

I called one of the authorized dealer to quote this model, about 500 per piece. sad.gif
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i would like to ask, can the back seat carry 3 normal malaysian adults? Maybe for a 2hour trip or something. Like 170cm, 70kg?

I dont dare to ask 3 person sit at the back and try the last time I did a test drive.

I remember the Civic FC can do this a bit better but the seats are a bit too low.
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is Altis Hybrid coming into Malaysia? It's underpowered by looking on the paper
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is Altis Hybrid coming into Malaysia? It's underpowered by looking on the paper
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i dun think UMW will bring hybrid model to Malaysia...... the main factor is petrol price is cheap, less advantage with hybrid.
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is Altis Hybrid coming into Malaysia? It's underpowered by looking on the paper
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Hai guys.. i sold my 2014 Altis and bought this new Altis in Feb'21. Please add me into the gang.. notworthy.gif

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hi guys, the latest version of altis does have android auto right? why it doesnt activate when i tried connecting to an android? any ideas?
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hi guys, the latest version of altis does have android auto right? why it doesnt activate when i tried connecting to an android? any ideas?
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but not sure which one helped.. either the cable or the t-link app.. my guess is maybe the cable..

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hai guys...may i confirm, the DRCC@ adaptive cruise control support stop and go function? quite confused since the web stated it support all speed.
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can I ask if there are any issues so far on the altis? deciding between civic and this and heard the civic has some issues like steering rack.

thanks guys
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i dun think UMW will bring hybrid model to Malaysia...... the main factor is petrol price is cheap, less advantage with hybrid.
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they are going to CKD here and start with Corolla Cross first, so look forward to have the sedan too.

but
Petrol ENgine chunk out 98PS at 5,200 rpm and 142 Nm at 3,600 rpm
electric motors delivers 72 PS and 163 Nm

So how much it is for total torque ?
163 Nm will not be good if side by side with smaller Honda City RS

Any thought ?
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can I ask if there are any issues so far on the altis? deciding between civic and this and heard the civic has some issues like steering rack.

thanks guys
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Civic FC is already at the end of its cycle, so should be quite mature, but there are words from some on QC and aftersales, not sure if they are all owners or hear say

This generation of Altis looks great
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QUOTE(outpace @ Oct 20 2021, 12:08 AM)
they are going to CKD here and start with Corolla Cross first, so look forward to have the sedan too.

but
Petrol ENgine chunk out 98PS at 5,200 rpm and 142 Nm at 3,600 rpm
electric motors delivers 72 PS and 163 Nm

So how much it is for total torque ? 
163 Nm will not be good if side by side with smaller Honda City RS

Any thought ?
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Toyota hybrid engine is not focus on power output but overall performance.
I m using CT200h, this machine is almost same as Cross Hybrid

from WIKI
The CT 200h is powered by the same 1.8-litre VVT-i four-cylinder petrol engine (Toyota's 2ZR-FXE) as used in the Auris and Prius, producing 73 kW (98 hp) and 142 N⋅m (105 lbf⋅ft) of torque, paired with electric motor/generators in the hybrid drive system; together the engine and electric motors produce up to 100 kW (134 hp) and 207 N⋅m (153 lbf⋅ft) of torque along with an electronically controlled continuously variable transmission. Fuel consumption for the CT 200h is listed at 4.1 L/100 km (57.4 mpg‑US) in Australia.[16]

Toyota Cross
The conventional petrol model uses a 1.8-litre 2ZR-FE/2ZR-FAE regular/2ZR-FBE flex fuel or a 2.0-litre M20A-FKS regular/M20A-FKB flex fuel four-cylinder petrol engines that produces 103 kW (138 hp; 140 PS) at 6,000 rpm and 177 N⋅m (131 lb⋅ft) of torque at 4,000 rpm and 126–130 kW (169–174 hp; 171–177 PS) at 6,600 rpm and 207–210 N⋅m (153–155 lb⋅ft) of torque at 4,400–4,800 rpm respectively, while hybrid variants gets the 1.8-litre 2ZR-FXE four-cylinder petrol engine that produces 72 kW (97 hp; 98 PS) at 5,200 rpm and 142 N⋅m (105 lb⋅ft) of torque at 3,600 rpm paired with an eCVT and works together with a 6.5-Ah nickel-metal hydride battery as well as an 1NM AC synchronous electric motor rated at 53 kW (71 hp; 72 PS) and 163 N⋅m (120 lb⋅ft) to provide a total system output of 90 kW (121 hp; 122 PS).
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QUOTE(psiloveu @ Oct 22 2021, 10:22 AM)
Toyota hybrid engine is not focus on power output but overall performance.
I m using CT200h, this machine is almost same as Cross Hybrid

from WIKI
The CT 200h is powered by the same 1.8-litre VVT-i four-cylinder petrol engine (Toyota's 2ZR-FXE) as used in the Auris and Prius, producing 73 kW (98 hp) and 142 N⋅m (105 lbf⋅ft) of torque, paired with electric motor/generators in the hybrid drive system; together the engine and electric motors produce up to 100 kW (134 hp) and 207 N⋅m (153 lbf⋅ft) of torque along with an electronically controlled continuously variable transmission. Fuel consumption for the CT 200h is listed at 4.1 L/100 km (57.4 mpg‑US) in Australia.[16]

Toyota Cross
The conventional petrol model uses a 1.8-litre 2ZR-FE/2ZR-FAE regular/2ZR-FBE flex fuel or a 2.0-litre M20A-FKS regular/M20A-FKB flex fuel four-cylinder petrol engines that produces 103 kW (138 hp; 140 PS) at 6,000 rpm and 177 N⋅m (131 lb⋅ft) of torque at 4,000 rpm and 126–130 kW (169–174 hp; 171–177 PS) at 6,600 rpm and 207–210 N⋅m (153–155 lb⋅ft) of torque at 4,400–4,800 rpm respectively, while hybrid variants gets the 1.8-litre 2ZR-FXE four-cylinder petrol engine that produces 72 kW (97 hp; 98 PS) at 5,200 rpm and 142 N⋅m (105 lb⋅ft) of torque at 3,600 rpm paired with an eCVT and works together with a 6.5-Ah nickel-metal hydride battery as well as an 1NM AC synchronous electric motor rated at 53 kW (71 hp; 72 PS) and 163 N⋅m (120 lb⋅ft) to provide a total system output of 90 kW (121 hp; 122 PS).
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So yours got a torque of 207nm but Newer Cross hybrid got only 163nm?
I never see any "Combined" torque mentioned so the peak torque is 163nm?

200nm and above is sufficient imo.
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Hai guys.. i sold my 2014 Altis and bought this new Altis in Feb'21. Please add me into the gang.. notworthy.gif
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so far with 8mths' usage.. any comments, bro?
trying to consider this car currently.
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QUOTE(outpace @ Oct 22 2021, 08:01 PM)
So yours got a torque of 207nm but Newer Cross hybrid got only 163nm?
I never see any "Combined" torque mentioned so the peak torque is 163nm?

200nm and above is sufficient imo.
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from the paper...yes...but i dun know how to explain the "experience" as I jumped to this car from NA 1.5L model.

it is better to wait the launching of the Toyota Cross Hybrid and test drive it. biggrin.gif

article about the CT200h spec
https://<link removed>/2011/03/14/lexus-ct-200...s-a-hybrid-too/

The Lexus Hybrid Drive in the Lexus CT 200h consists of a 1.8 litre 4-cylinder petrol engine, a powerful electric motor, a generator, a high-performance 168-cell battery, a power control unit and a power-split device. The electrical components are housed in a casing that is about the size of a conventional gearbox. Drive to the front wheels is through a Shift-by-Wire electronically-controlled continuously-variable transmission (E-CVT).

The DOHC 16-valve petrol engine has a capacity of 1.8 litres and develops 98 bhp at 5,200 rpm with 142 Nm of torque between 2,800 – 4,400 rpm. In combination with the output provided by the electric motor, the maximum power available can be boosted to 134 bhp. Torque from the electric motor is a maximum of 207 Nm and typical of electric motors, it peaks early so there is actually lots of torque from the get go. It’s nothing like a turbodiesel engine of course but the pull is stronger than a usual normally aspirated petrol engine.
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lol wat the fuk it is 2021 and toyota still using NiMH.
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Damn this UMW, the new price list for corolla cross out already, but CBU and CKD, difference only few hundred ringgit?? fuk man they really tipu org saja.

OK la UMW, the CKD for petrol one comes with some updates for corolla cross.

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Hi. Just to check if anyone know how to reset the dash cam of 2019 Altis? My back dash cam suddenly just black screen even after restart the car
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can I ask if there are any issues so far on the altis? deciding between civic and this and heard the civic has some issues like steering rack.

thanks guys
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as i heard civic steering becos of electric power steering driven by separate motor not enjin belt. so it detect overheat under some condition.
need to know this reason.

QUOTE(outpace @ Oct 20 2021, 12:08 AM)
they are going to CKD here and start with Corolla Cross first, so look forward to have the sedan too.
but
Petrol ENgine chunk out 98PS at 5,200 rpm and 142 Nm at 3,600 rpm
electric motors delivers 72 PS and 163 Nm
So how much it is for total torque ? 
163 Nm will not be good if side by side with smaller Honda City RS
Any thought ?
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dont just look at numbers
actual drives is depend gearbox setup since torque can by multiply ratio

QUOTE(ben3003 @ Oct 24 2021, 03:13 PM)
lol wat the fuk it is 2021 and toyota still using NiMH.
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what is better than nimh i didnt catch up news

QUOTE(Diablo89 @ Nov 6 2021, 07:59 AM)
Hi. Just to check if anyone know how to reset the dash cam of 2019 Altis? My back dash cam suddenly just black screen even after restart the car
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ori dashcam? i only think of cabut accessory fuse box
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QUOTE(ktek @ Nov 6 2021, 03:35 PM)
as i heard civic steering becos of electric power steering driven by separate motor not enjin belt. so it detect overheat under some condition.
need to know this reason.

dont just look at numbers
actual drives is depend gearbox setup since torque can by multiply ratio
what is better than nimh i didnt catch up news
ori dashcam? i only think of cabut accessory fuse box
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Li-ion at least la bro sweat.gif NiMH slow charging, battery capacity and energy density is abysmal compare to li-ion. summore it is heavy. shit ancient technology batt.
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QUOTE(ktek @ Nov 6 2021, 03:35 PM)
as i heard civic steering becos of electric power steering driven by separate motor not enjin belt. so it detect overheat under some condition.
need to know this reason.

dont just look at numbers
actual drives is depend gearbox setup since torque can by multiply ratio
what is better than nimh i didnt catch up news
ori dashcam? i only think of cabut accessory fuse box
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QUOTE(ktek @ Nov 6 2021, 03:35 PM)
as i heard civic steering becos of electric power steering driven by separate motor not enjin belt. so it detect overheat under some condition.
need to know this reason.

dont just look at numbers
actual drives is depend gearbox setup since torque can by multiply ratio

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Difference between the instant torque we get from motor vs the time take ICU to rev up to the peak torque ?
Maybe have to test drive it or look at the 0-100km/h data

like New Honda City Hybrid , 9.9 seconds to 100km/h for a light sedan is a bit different from other sedan with similar torque


QUOTE(ben3003 @ Nov 6 2021, 03:43 PM)
Li-ion at least la bro  sweat.gif NiMH slow charging, battery capacity and energy density is abysmal compare to li-ion. summore it is heavy. shit ancient technology batt.
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QUOTE(ben3003 @ Nov 6 2021, 03:43 PM)
Li-ion at least la bro  sweat.gif NiMH slow charging, battery capacity and energy density is abysmal compare to li-ion. summore it is heavy. shit ancient technology batt.
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Li-ion seems to be more sexy yeah, but something higher in cost and cost higher to have the surrounding set up in car to baby sit the energy intensive cell.
Also, Toyota seems to have totally different approach on reducing carbon emission where they opt for enhancing existing ICU technology, like hydrogen and hybrid tech. Tat different from full EV from their European and Chinese counterparts.

Seems like only time will tell who would be the mainstream in future, 5, 10, 30, 60, 100 years down the road, leave it to our children biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(outpace @ Nov 7 2021, 08:49 AM)
Difference between the instant torque we get from motor vs the time take ICU to rev up to the peak torque ?
Maybe have to test drive it or look at the 0-100km/h data

like New Honda City Hybrid , 9.9 seconds to 100km/h for a light sedan is a bit different from other sedan with similar torque
Li-ion seems to be more sexy yeah, but something higher in cost and cost higher to have the surrounding set up in car to baby sit the energy intensive cell.
Also, Toyota seems to have totally different approach on reducing carbon emission where they opt for enhancing existing ICU technology, like hydrogen and hybrid tech. Tat different from full EV from their European and Chinese counterparts.

Seems like only time will tell who would be the mainstream in future, 5, 10, 30, 60, 100 years down the road, leave it to our children  biggrin.gif
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anyway for malaysian i believe 10-20years down the road, ICE still prevalent on the road lol. full EV is too niche in the market, and not for the masses, not unless the cost is sub-100k for EV.
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Difference between the instant torque we get from motor vs the time take ICU to rev up to the peak torque ?
Maybe have to test drive it or look at the 0-100km/h data

like New Honda City Hybrid , 9.9 seconds to 100km/h for a light sedan is a bit different from other sedan with similar torque
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motor is native high torque but cannot be multiply since he direct to wheel (most efficient way).
enjin torque at low rpm is less so we r using gear ratio bro. real output number on wheel could be triple and more (common implemented ratio on jp brand vehicles). not even peak torque rev up

beside that, we not using full potential yet. unless we able bypass dc pwm or ac inverter. without these we cannot make slow creep at all. easy example is rapid lrt /mrt

drive pecut sure shorthen d lifespan of every components therefore factory cant give long warranty as per offered now
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Any SA here can tell if there is waiting time for Altis 1.8G? i gave up waiting for X70. sad.gif
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QUOTE(ktek @ Nov 7 2021, 06:50 PM)
motor is native high torque but cannot be multiply since he direct to wheel (most efficient way).
enjin torque at low rpm is less so we r using gear ratio bro. real output number on wheel could be triple and more (common implemented ratio on jp brand vehicles). not even peak torque rev up

beside that, we not using full potential yet. unless we able bypass dc pwm or ac inverter. without these we cannot make slow creep at all. easy example is rapid lrt /mrt

drive pecut sure shorthen d lifespan of every components therefore factory cant give long warranty as per offered now
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Can't really understand this "real output number on wheel could be triple and more (common implemented ratio on jp brand vehicles). "

Seems like the new Camry Hybrid's combined torque is lower than the torque of previous Camry Hybrid, so concur with what you are stating I guess.
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QUOTE(outpace @ Nov 8 2021, 11:55 PM)
Can't really understand this "real output number on wheel could be triple and more (common implemented ratio on jp brand vehicles). "

Seems like the new Camry Hybrid's combined torque is lower than the torque of previous Camry Hybrid, so concur with what you are stating I guess.
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full article if u wish to kira2 https://x-engineer.org/automotive-engineeri...-torque-engine/
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that why dyno shop use nearest 1:1 gear ratio to check horse power n torque.
if everybody use 1st gear to dyno we get crazy torque man.
tyre play wheelspin also happen on 1st gear easily from enjin torque being multiplied up many times
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weakness after gear multiply= limited gear speed else enjin explode. afterall high rpm increase resistance to piston movement+ stress to all drivetrain related.

so we need to shift next gear which produce less torque. at this point electric motor win becos it never shift, maintain output steady
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rapid mrr lrt pickup sound= low---medium---high.
he never do low--high *shift* low---high *shift* low--high
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Have any of you purchased any certified pre-owned cars from Toyota Topmark Sdn Bhd based in Shah Alam near the IDCC Ideal Convention Centre Shah Alam - HQ (URL:
https://www.facebook.com/Toyota-TopMark-Sha...8649558537255/)?

If yes, how is their Sales Assistant service/post purchase service?

I'm considering to purchase either a 2019 or 2020 pre-owned Toyotoa Corolla Altis 1.8G model for my parents as a daily car.

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QUOTE(Kagekiyo @ Nov 13 2021, 10:42 AM)
Have any of you purchased any certified pre-owned cars from Toyota Topmark Sdn Bhd based in Shah Alam near the IDCC Ideal Convention Centre Shah Alam - HQ

If yes, how is their Sales Assistant service/post purchase service?

I'm considering to purchase either a 2019 or 2020 pre-owned Toyotoa Corolla Altis 1.8G model for my parents as a daily car.

Cheers.
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Suggest buy new car, as currently have 8k (cash rebate) + SST exemption, you can get 1.8G less than 130k. I still waiting for my car smile.gif
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QUOTE(Kagekiyo @ Nov 13 2021, 10:42 AM)
Have any of you purchased any certified pre-owned cars from Toyota Topmark Sdn Bhd based in Shah Alam near the IDCC Ideal Convention Centre Shah Alam - HQ (URL:
https://www.facebook.com/Toyota-TopMark-Sha...8649558537255/)?

If yes, how is their Sales Assistant service/post purchase service?

I'm considering to purchase either a 2019 or 2020 pre-owned Toyotoa Corolla Altis 1.8G model for my parents as a daily car.

Cheers.
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i just wonder why you want to get such a recent used car. not much difference in price, so much more risk + interest rate higher.
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Suggest buy new car, as currently have 8k (cash rebate) + SST exemption, you can get 1.8G less than 130k. I still waiting for my car smile.gif
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Forgot to include one more currently have free tinting for whole car. Is worth to buy new car instead of old car.
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Hi All, sorry this might has been asked before but what makes u choose altis over civic?
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Hi All, sorry this might has been asked before but what makes u choose altis over civic?
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Hi All, sorry this might has been asked before but what makes u choose altis over civic?
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Reliability, better safety feature (more airbag, better blind spot monitor) and latest TNGA really provide better handling. I am Toyota owner hence I prefer T than H based on past usage (owned an 16 years old first generation vios).

2022 new honda civic price will be different as current version (based on other country revealed price and leak news it may be increase 10k+ for latest model with 1.5 turbo only) hence civic price will be higher than altis for the new version.

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I too monitoring this car along with Corolla cross and new Civic.

To me, its all in the new car pricing to compete. I am kinda disappointed that Cross Hybrid is old school hybrid from Prius days (although it works).
I was quite happy with Corolla 1.8G overall, but it would really depends on what Honda can give me for 130k flat. Or less, preferably.
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QUOTE(lee82gx @ Dec 7 2021, 11:16 AM)
I too monitoring this car along with Corolla cross and new Civic.

To me, its all in the new car pricing to compete. I am kinda disappointed that Cross Hybrid is old school hybrid from Prius days (although it works).
I was quite happy with Corolla 1.8G overall, but it would really depends on what Honda can give me for 130k flat. Or less, preferably.
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2022 Honda civic FE, Singapore and Thailand both increase the car price hence i do not think you can get it with 130k unless they take out some feature(it may cause it diff to compete with it competitor). Currently Toyota giving quite good offer 8k cash rebate (compare to last yr 4k) + sst exempt + car tinted (yr 2021 only) hence i bought my altis before price increase(chip shortage, material shortage etc). Taiwan and USA market both start to increase car price. I felt is a good deal,with spec e price i get spec g altis.
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QUOTE(kelly0714 @ Dec 8 2021, 10:51 AM)
2022 Honda civic FE, Singapore and Thailand both increase the car price hence i do not think you can get it with 130k unless they take out some feature(it may cause it diff to compete with it competitor). Currently Toyota giving quite good offer 8k cash rebate (compare to last yr 4k) + sst exempt + car tinted (yr 2021 only) hence i bought my altis before price increase(chip shortage, material shortage etc). Taiwan and USA market both start to increase car price. I felt is a good deal,with spec e price i get spec g altis.
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definitely when I say price I imply what kind of specs, features and kit that will be included.

So you're saying your 1.8G is about 130k?

My wife is saying for goodness sakes +/-20k just choose what you like. I actually like CRV hahahaha
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QUOTE(lee82gx @ Dec 8 2021, 11:18 AM)
definitely when I say price I imply what kind of specs, features and kit that will be included.

So you're saying your 1.8G is about 130k?

My wife is saying for goodness sakes +/-20k just choose what you like. I actually like CRV hahahaha
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Exclude insurance around 127k (e spec 124k), heard from my SA next yr the offer will be different expect less than 8k and still need to add in risk of car price up. Suggest to go and test drive car you interested before buy.
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QUOTE(kelly0714 @ Dec 8 2021, 11:30 AM)
Exclude insurance around 127k (e spec 124k), heard from my SA next yr the offer will be different expect less than 8k and still need to add in risk of car price up. Suggest to go and test drive car you interested before buy.
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fair enough, I already tested the car. At 130k, I feel I lose out on the 1.5T power of the Honda Civic (i have really tested both, along with Corolla cross). Of course if the next iteration ask for more than 140k, I won't feel I lose out anymore. How weird is that...just a relative thing can make me decide. I would've bought the 1.5 TCP if still available today.

At the same time, there is still chance for the new Civic to come in at the same price, below or at 130k. I won't mind losing out on kit like seat material, speakers, dunno what display here and there. I just want all the full safety suite, and apple car play (wired and above), and keyless entry.
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QUOTE(lee82gx @ Dec 8 2021, 11:37 AM)
fair enough, I already tested the car. At 130k, I feel I lose out on the 1.5T power of the Honda Civic (i have really tested both, along with Corolla cross). Of course if the next iteration ask for more than 140k, I won't feel I lose out anymore. How weird is that...just a relative thing can make me decide. I would've bought the 1.5 TCP if still available today.

At the same time, there is still chance for the new Civic to come in at the same price, below or at 130k. I won't mind losing out on kit like seat material, speakers, dunno what display here and there. I just want all the full safety suite, and apple car play (wired and above), and keyless entry.
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I felt unless they take out the safety feature if not rare chance can lower the price (just my view,also refer to current 1.5 tc vs tcp). If can't get the new car before june 2022 also car price will be up by ~5k (sst). So all need to take into consideration smile.gif
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HI, just throwing out a question. Hope someone can help to answer. I owned a 2019 Toyota corolla altis with toyota safety sense. All my safety systems work fine. LDW, Dynamic Auto Cruise.

But the Pre Collision System seem not working.
I tried follow car very near at highway, didnt apply brake before the traffic light with the car completely stop infront of me, i also didnt apply brake, but the car didnt have any warning sign & apply brake automatically.
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QUOTE(Onetigerpig @ Feb 1 2022, 10:37 AM)
HI, just throwing out a question. Hope someone can help to answer. I owned a 2019 Toyota corolla altis with toyota safety sense. All my safety systems work fine. LDW, Dynamic Auto Cruise.

But the Pre Collision System seem not working.
I tried follow car very near at highway, didnt apply brake before the traffic light with the car completely stop infront of me, i also didnt apply brake, but the car didnt have any warning sign & apply brake automatically.
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You can refer to media review online, for me I am first generation vios owner, from B segment to C segment. Good handling and nvh with new TNGA platform, equipped with alot of safety feature. Display also improve with bigger 9 inch screen, if you are a person look for family car, low maintenance cost and reliable Altis should be a car to fit your use.

P.S. recently just went to H showroom see the new Cxxxx car, after see it I got no regret to get this altis with <130K. Alot of feature (360 view, BSM, front rear camera, window tinting, rear passenger side w/o auto power window etc) not equipped (still CKD with almost same car price)
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Hi, I just collected my New Toyota Altis 1.8G , I thought the tyre should be Michelin PS 4 but instead Dunlop tyre , how about anyone else
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QUOTE(khoo118 @ Mar 28 2022, 09:26 AM)
Hi, I just collected my New Toyota Altis 1.8G , I thought the tyre should be Michelin PS 4 but instead Dunlop tyre , how about anyone else
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i collected my ckd corolla cross last week also, cbu cross units get michelin primacy 4 but i get toyo proxes cr1.

all altis are cbu from thailand, and my 2018 altis 2.0v are also michelin pilot sport 4 when i get it.

best guess is toyota went cost saving on tyre since tyre price has increase like 40-60% since 2021 2H smtg.

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Hi, I just collected my New Toyota Altis 1.8G , I thought the tyre should be Michelin PS 4 but instead Dunlop tyre , how about anyone else
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I got dunlop, depends on batch.
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Got mine last weekend fitted with Primacy 4. Batch Jan 22, but tyre is 4421

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is this new Altis equipped with auto on off interior light when the door is open ? If yes how to set to auto, thanks
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anyone has SA contact that is able to deliver the car before July? sad.gif
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After five months drive found parking break sound very loud and sharp, send to sc check and been told is normal. Are you all guys car having the same sound
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Mine not quite loud but noticeable when the EPB engaged or disengaged. What im a bit annoyed is the sound of the brake when depress after auto hold.
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QUOTE(TechnoG @ Apr 4 2022, 12:19 AM)
anyone has SA contact that is able to deliver the car before July? sad.gif
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Specific color?

Try Ayer Keroh SA, mahu?


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QUOTE(davidsport @ Apr 13 2022, 12:27 PM)
After five months drive found parking break sound very loud and sharp, send to sc check and been told is normal. Are you all guys car having the same sound
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The sound is slightly noticeable now compared to 5mths back.

But not so sharp/loud that makes me concerned.
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The sound is slightly noticeable now compared to 5mths back.

But not so sharp/loud that makes me concerned.
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When I stop at the traffic light and pull the brake button, those motorcyclist next to my car will look at me sad.gif
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QUOTE(davidsport @ Apr 14 2022, 03:38 PM)
When I stop at the traffic light and pull the brake button, those motorcyclist next to my car will look at me sad.gif
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That is loud.

Better get it checked.
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QUOTE(khoo118 @ Mar 28 2022, 09:26 AM)
Hi, I just collected my New Toyota Altis 1.8G , I thought the tyre should be Michelin PS 4 but instead Dunlop tyre , how about anyone else
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Just got my car last month, it came with Michelin Primacy, my SA told me is random between Michelin and Dunlop
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Interested to know the average waiting time after booking for altis...
I asked end of may, SA told can get around Sept.
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Booked on end June. No news till now.
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QUOTE(Vest @ Oct 25 2022, 06:56 PM)
Booked on end June. No news till now.
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hey all, how's the fuel consumption of this car?
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QUOTE(miyakochan89 @ Dec 9 2022, 09:28 PM)
hey all, how's the fuel consumption of this car?
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Having owned and drive the car for four years plus, and counting, would say the fuel consumption of the car is superb.
The frequent travelling between KL to Penang, Penang to KL, one trip will only be consuming at most half-tank of the petrol, or lesser than that.
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Anyone changed new tyres recently? Which brand is good but not as expensive as Michelin?
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QUOTE(miyakochan89 @ Dec 9 2022, 09:28 PM)
hey all, how's the fuel consumption of this car?
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5l /100km on highway if drive like grandma below 110kmhr

Then don't accelerate to overtake other car

City drive and heavy traffic, mild tekan, 7l / 100km

But the cvt isn't smooth, got jerking, when braking at junction with very low speed
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Any good toyota sales agent in Klang Valley recommended?
I remember last time (3 or 4 years ago) got 1 SA active in lowyat posting latest promo, but unfortunately I can't find back the thread.
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dear owners, may i know how much is the yearly car insurance for Altis?
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QUOTE(ho1286 @ Mar 12 2023, 04:40 PM)
dear owners, may i know how much is the yearly car insurance for Altis?
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0% NCD = RM4,500-ish.
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QUOTE(miyakochan89 @ Dec 9 2022, 09:28 PM)
hey all, how's the fuel consumption of this car?
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As you drive.

I started with 527km/full tank.
Now it’s about 470km/full tank.

City drive, I don’t really car about fuel economy so kaki memang tekan saja.
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Any body know when they will facelift this 12th gen. Already 3 years.
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QUOTE(azlanys1 @ Mar 24 2023, 12:16 PM)
Any body know when they will facelift this 12th gen. Already 3 years.
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Just came back from showroom, got discount rm8k now, they are clearing stock before new corolla altis, expected july..
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thinking to buy an used 2020 1.8 g corolla altis for about 110k, mileage about 35,000 km, any advice guys? thanks.
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QUOTE(iOrange @ Apr 29 2023, 08:43 PM)
thinking to buy an used 2020 1.8 g corolla altis for about 110k, mileage about 35,000 km, any advice guys? thanks.
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Buy new better as now got massive discount. Also take into consideration new car interest rate lower.
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QUOTE(voscar @ Apr 30 2023, 10:00 PM)
Buy new better as now got massive discount. Also take into consideration new car interest rate lower.
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Do you know what’s the interest rate of a new and a used car now?
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QUOTE(sonotme @ Apr 15 2023, 02:08 PM)
Just came back from showroom, got discount rm8k now, they are clearing stock before new corolla altis, expected july..
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The new version is the one that the Europe has?

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Err i dont think so. Should be what thailand has.. i heard only facelift (external) changes so its worth to get it now with 8k discount
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QUOTE(sonotme @ May 1 2023, 12:15 AM)
Err i dont think so. Should be what thailand has.. i heard only facelift (external) changes so its worth to get it now with 8k discount
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oh well. i just booked cross already.
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QUOTE(miyakochan89 @ May 1 2023, 12:27 AM)
oh well. i just booked cross already.
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Same price anyway.. just waiting list for cross is long.
Cross is a good choice as well..
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Do you know what’s the interest rate of a new and a used car now?
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The used car I got last month, 3.66% 8 years.
New car Altis I ask that time, below 3% can't recall the quoted rate, best to ask the SA there.
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QUOTE(sonotme @ Apr 15 2023, 02:08 PM)
Just came back from showroom, got discount rm8k now, they are clearing stock before new corolla altis, expected july..
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Is the discount of RM8k the same for both low spec and high spec? Or the high spec has higher discount? Thanks.
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QUOTE(SportyHandling @ May 8 2023, 06:39 PM)
Is the discount of RM8k the same for both low spec and high spec? Or the high spec has higher discount? Thanks.
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1st time i went the SA didnt say but 2nd time around, he said only for high spec. Its not mentioned in the website so its debatable. I see in fb some ppl get 10k+ rebate while i only got 8k..
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QUOTE(sonotme @ May 8 2023, 08:13 PM)
1st time i went the SA didnt say but 2nd time around, he said only for high spec. Its not mentioned in the website so its debatable. I see in fb some ppl get 10k+ rebate while i only got 8k..
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Ok thanks for the info. Useful to know. Looks like the discount is not the same with all showrooms so need to ask few to determine the lowest one.
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QUOTE(sonotme @ May 8 2023, 08:13 PM)
1st time i went the SA didnt say but 2nd time around, he said only for high spec. Its not mentioned in the website so its debatable. I see in fb some ppl get 10k+ rebate while i only got 8k..
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u need to go for few showroom to check on higheset rebates/discount, even same showroom, SA also give different rebates/discount.
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QUOTE(SportyHandling @ May 8 2023, 06:39 PM)
Is the discount of RM8k the same for both low spec and high spec? Or the high spec has higher discount? Thanks.
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March time I went showroom, the SA told me no longer selling Corolla Altis low spec, all standardized high spec 1.8G available only since this year.
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QUOTE(sonotme @ May 8 2023, 08:13 PM)
1st time i went the SA didnt say but 2nd time around, he said only for high spec. Its not mentioned in the website so its debatable. I see in fb some ppl get 10k+ rebate while i only got 8k..
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Facebook club saw got people got 8k + 4k
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QUOTE(voscar @ May 9 2023, 02:19 PM)
March time I went showroom, the SA told me no longer selling Corolla Altis low spec, all standardized high spec 1.8G available only since this year.

Facebook club saw got people got 8k + 4k
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I see, good to know. Looks like they are clearing stock. I was wondering how the new Corolla model, presumably just facelift will be different to the current model.

So it's total RM12k discount. May I ask why is it split into 8k and 4K?
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QUOTE(SportyHandling @ May 9 2023, 03:39 PM)
I see, good to know. Looks like they are clearing stock. I was wondering how the new Corolla model, presumably just facelift will be different to the current model.

So it's total RM12k discount. May I ask why is it split into 8k and 4K?
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That member mentioned additional 4k rebate came from SA himself...

If looking at facelift model for Taiwan market, they've revert back to Torsion Beam rear setup, double wishbone only for those GR model. Just hope it's not the same for our market...
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QUOTE(voscar @ May 9 2023, 04:03 PM)
That member mentioned additional 4k rebate came from SA himself...

If looking at facelift model for Taiwan market, they've revert back to Torsion Beam rear setup, double wishbone only for those GR model. Just hope it's not the same for our market...
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Thanks for the information. Appreciated. Will see if I can visit the showroom soon to view and test-drive the car. A bit busy and caught up lately with very close relative who just passed away this morning.
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QUOTE(SportyHandling @ May 10 2023, 10:24 AM)
Thanks for the information. Appreciated. Will see if I can visit the showroom soon to view and test-drive the car. A bit busy and caught up lately with very close relative who just passed away this morning.
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Sorry to hear that and take care.
You planning to replace the Ford Focus with Altis?
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Sorry to hear that and take care.
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Thanks. Altis is to replace an older Proton Persona which is rarely used since it's a backup car. The Ford Focus, it's a long story but I"ll make it short. It gave me a lot of problems starting from last year and this year. Initially I wanted to keep this car for another 8 years or so and replaced the front absorbers just earlier last month. However, the steering rack failed for the 2nd time this year and it's very costly to replace this part, not to mention the hassle and danger that comes with it especially when the steering wheel became very stiff suddenly when driving on the road and cannot be turned easily when the steering rack fails. Now I don't think I"ll keep the Focus for more than 5 years.

I now need a new and reliable car to turn to in case the Ford Focus give me problems again, so I have a reliable backup car to use, hence looking at this Altis. Looking at all the history, I would expect the Altis to be problem free for at least 10 years if not 20. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(SportyHandling @ May 11 2023, 07:50 AM)
Thanks. Altis is to replace an older Proton Persona which is rarely used since it's a backup car. The Ford Focus, it's a long story but I"ll make it short. It gave me a lot of problems starting from last year and this year. Initially I wanted to keep this car for another 8 years or so and replaced the front absorbers just earlier last month. However, the steering rack failed for the 2nd time this year and it's very costly to replace this part, not to mention the hassle and danger that comes with it especially when the steering wheel became very stiff suddenly when driving on the road and cannot be turned easily when the steering rack fails. Now I don't think I"ll keep the Focus for more than 5 years.

I now need a new and reliable car to turn to in case the Ford Focus give me problems again, so I have a reliable backup car to use, hence looking at this Altis. Looking at all the history, I would expect the Altis to be problem free for at least 10 years if not 20.  biggrin.gif
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Since you are looking at a spare car and with Altis budget, why don't you consider getting EV instead? Stretch a litte, BYD Atto 3 should be reliable enough as a spare, plus the EV hype.
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Since you are looking at a spare car and with Altis budget, why don't you consider getting EV instead? Stretch a litte, BYD Atto 3 should be reliable enough as a spare, plus the EV hype.
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That member mentioned additional 4k rebate came from SA himself...
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Sorry to come back again. Is it possible if you can let me know which branch where the SA is located who gave the additional RM4k on top of the RM8k discount? I tried to search for the info on Facebook but the Altis owner Facebook group is locked and only accessible to owners. Thanks.
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Sorry to come back again. Is it possible if you can let me know which branch where the SA is located who gave the additional RM4k on top of the RM8k discount? I tried to search for the info on Facebook but the Altis owner Facebook group is locked and only accessible to owners. Thanks.
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Yes, someone ask him which showroom, he replied Laser Motor.
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Yes, someone ask him which showroom, he replied Laser Motor.
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Just went to Wing Hin showroom and the sales lady informed Corolla Altis all sold out in Malaysia. So I called Laser Motor to confirm if that is true. Unfortunately it is true.

So no choice have to see if new Corolla is worth the price or not. The sales lady informed there is no information on the details of the new model at this point of time which is surprising. Not sure if it's just a face-lift on the exterior of major changes in the engine, transmission etc.
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QUOTE(SportyHandling @ May 13 2023, 02:32 PM)
Just went to Wing Hin showroom and the sales lady informed Corolla Altis all sold out in Malaysia. So I called Laser Motor to confirm if that is true. Unfortunately it is true.

So no choice have to see if new Corolla is worth the price or not. The sales lady informed there is no information on the details of the new model at this point of time which is surprising. Not sure if it's just a face-lift on the exterior of major changes in the engine, transmission etc.
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Wow so unexpected, during March time I'm still able to get the car within 3 weeks (SA did checked the list of stock and particular color estimates delivery) if confirm buying...
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Any chances of Corolla Altis hybrid in Malaysia? Seems like many of our neighbors already have it for some time.
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Any chances of Corolla Altis hybrid in Malaysia? Seems like many of our neighbors already have it for some time.
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Yes, I tried searching for new Corolla model in Thailand since we are getting our CBU units from there. Some investigation revealed that the Corolla 1.8V hybrid is currently being sold not only in Thailand but Indonesia, Singapore and Phillipines since 2019 or 2020 which is surprising since we are so late in getting the new hybrid model if the new replacement model is confirmed to be the hybrid model. We are 2 to 3 years late in getting the hybrid in comparison to our Asean neighbours.

I would be interested to know more about the power and performance of the hybrid model if it is confirmed that we are getting it. The hybrid will be more fuel efficient than the outgoing model, that's for sure but I'm curious how much quicker and powerful it will get when compared to the 1.8 NA.
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No information on the new upcoming Corolla model. Does anybody here has any leaks? If the new model is expected to launch by the 3rd quarter of this year, I presume there would already be arrangement for it already.

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No information on the new upcoming Corolla model. Does anybody here has any leaks? If the new model is expected to launch by the 3rd quarter of this year, I presume there would already be arrangement for it already.

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However these few days got a few members collected the "special" SA discount car, my guess from Bangsar, did you try to ask this branch?
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There's an Altis Hybrid spotted in UMW plant way back in 2020. Not sure what happened to it

https://www.dsf.my/2020/01/toyota-corolla-a...d-in-shah-alam/

But I'm guessing UMW decided to prioritise Corolla Cross since crossover / SUV is a bigger market nowadays

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No news on the club either.
However these few days got a few members collected the "special" SA discount car, my guess from Bangsar, did you try to ask this branch?
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Sorry, what is special SA discount car? Is it the current Corolla model which has been all sold out throughout the country? If yes, I will likely pass since the new and upcoming Corolla model is now appealing to me if it's a hybrid (which I suspect is highly likely). If it's the same old engine and mechanical gearbox with changes in exterior face-lift only, then I'll drop it and go for something else instead.
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There's an Altis Hybrid spotted in UMW plant way back in 2020. Not sure what happened to it

https://www.dsf.my/2020/01/toyota-corolla-a...d-in-shah-alam/

But I'm guessing UMW decided to prioritise Corolla Cross since crossover / SUV is a bigger market nowadays
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Yes, it's an SUV market these days but I'm not so keen on SUVs. I've seen the Corolla Cross in the showroom and don't quite like the interior door panels at the rear seat as the handles look too chunky to me and also a colleague who recently bought the Cross hybrid model mentioned that it's underpowered. The Corolla Cross looks pretty good on the exterior though but as an overall package it does not appeal to me as much as the Corolla Altis as I always prefer a more nimble drive and comfortable suspension of a sedan apart from the more elegant looks (which is subjective) .
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Sorry, what is special SA discount car? Is it the current Corolla model which has been all sold out throughout the country? If yes, I will likely pass since the new and upcoming Corolla model is now appealing to me if it's a hybrid (which I suspect is highly likely). If it's the same old engine and mechanical gearbox with changes in exterior face-lift only, then I'll drop it and go for something else instead.
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The 8k + SA 4k discount.
Not sure if sold out, perhaps you may try reach out Bangsar showroom ask, coz inside the Facebook group nobody mention no more stock...

My guess would be same old engine and gearbox, with rear change back to Torsion Beam for cost saving, referring to Taiwan market...
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The 8k + SA 4k discount.
Not sure if sold out, perhaps you may try reach out Bangsar showroom ask, coz inside the Facebook group nobody mention no more stock...

My guess would be same old engine and gearbox, with rear change back to Torsion Beam for cost saving, referring to Taiwan market...
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Ok thanks for the info. If that's true, it's a backward move for Toyota which is surprising. A worse model with higher price, I wonder how they will market the improved features or aspects of the new model when they introduce it to the market later this year.
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Hi, i am targeting the new facelift altis too. Agent told me training on this will commence on June, while it should be launched on Sept. They are clueless on whats the package.
Anyway, take it with a grain of salt.
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When was this 12th generation corolla introduced in Malaysia? It was introduced internationally in 2018 and the next generation is expected every 6 years, which is due in 2024, am I right?

What is the lag time here in Malaysia?
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When was this 12th generation corolla introduced in Malaysia? It was introduced internationally in 2018 and the next generation is expected every 6 years, which is due in 2024, am I right?

What is the lag time here in Malaysia?
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QUOTE(SportyHandling @ May 11 2023, 07:50 AM)
Thanks. Altis is to replace an older Proton Persona which is rarely used since it's a backup car. The Ford Focus, it's a long story but I"ll make it short. It gave me a lot of problems starting from last year and this year. Initially I wanted to keep this car for another 8 years or so and replaced the front absorbers just earlier last month. However, the steering rack failed for the 2nd time this year and it's very costly to replace this part, not to mention the hassle and danger that comes with it especially when the steering wheel became very stiff suddenly when driving on the road and cannot be turned easily when the steering rack fails. Now I don't think I"ll keep the Focus for more than 5 years.

I now need a new and reliable car to turn to in case the Ford Focus give me problems again, so I have a reliable backup car to use, hence looking at this Altis. Looking at all the history, I would expect the Altis to be problem free for at least 10 years if not 20.  biggrin.gif
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Sorry for pulling the old post. Yours is mk3 or mk3.5? My mk3.5 already starts to eat my wallet from time to time. May i know if u did consider Civic FE? I am also currently eying for altis vs civic. But I couldnt tahan the looks of New Civic even the powers looks temping. On spec- almost same like mk3.5..argh...damn hard to decide...
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Sorry for pulling the old post. Yours is mk3 or mk3.5? My mk3.5 already starts to eat my wallet from time to time. May i know if u did consider Civic FE? I am also currently eying for altis vs civic. But I couldnt tahan the looks of New Civic even the powers looks temping. On spec- almost same like mk3.5..argh...damn hard to decide...
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No problem. Mine is Mk3. In my case, the cost of maintenance starting from the 8th year is very high. It's mainly caused by the replacement of steering rack which I believe may be the costliest part for the Focus mk3. I'm not sure if this steering rack problem in the mk3 affects the mk3.5 or not as it appears it doesn't last very long and will fail in 8 to 10 years. Some owners of the Mk3 experienced much earlier failure of the steering rack in their cars. It's not only the cost of steering rack is high (claimed new one RM13k from service centre, RM9k+ or lower from workshop outside) but the dangerous situation when the steering rack fails. It can fail when one is still driving the vehicle on the road, and when it happens, you will not be able to turn the steering wheel as it will be very stiff. Imagine you suddenly can't turn the steering wheel left or right when you are still driving the car on the road. Very dangerous! I created a thread here https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/5382790

It started from last year, I spent RM3k for a half-cut steering rack. Perhaps it is a mistake on my part to save cost. Just after 8 months, the steering rack failed again and I had to spent another 2.7k to replace it. If it fails another time, I have no choice but to go for a new one. Apart from steering rack, the O2 sensor also failed, together with clock spring, and I spent RM1.5k for the replacement of all these parts at the cheapest workshop in town. If at other workshops, it will cost me RM2k. Also replaced front suspension RM2k original.

So all in all, in just within 8 months, I have spent RM9.2k just to keep the car going on the road. If I went for new steering rack the cost would be higher. I am not sure about your mk3.5 but if it isn't the steering rack, the cost of maintenance would be fine. It's the steering rack where the price of a new one is high.

Honda vehicles are not in my shortlist all this while as the quality is poor to me. The design of the new Civic is good but every Honda cars I sat in will show higher than normal rattling sound. Perhaps others who are not critical will be able to accept it but I am sensitive to rattling sound which shows poor QAQC. The new Civic (low and mid spec) looks good. The looks of the RS isn't to my taste as I am an old man already, perhaps will appeal to youngsters. I don't go for power and spec these days but more to comfort, quietness and smooth drive with little to zero rattling sound inside the cabin. The Toyota Corolla Altis is at the top of my list at the moment. Some people pay a lot of attention to the screen at the centre of the dashboard claiming the Android system is outdated or the screen is low resolution or doesn't have 360 degrees camera etc. but I don't put any emphasis to it at all. My priority is just to have a safe a problem-free car, comfortable and quiet drive. No more sporty handling anymore as it is of no use if it keeps breaking down with high maintenance cost like the Ford Focus.

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No problem. Mine is Mk3. In my case, the cost of maintenance starting from the 8th year is very high. It's mainly caused by the replacement of steering rack which I believe may be the costliest part for the Focus mk3. I'm not sure if this steering rack problem in the mk3 affects the mk3.5 or not as it appears it doesn't last very long and will fail in 8 to 10 years. Some owners of the Mk3 experienced much earlier failure of the steering rack in their cars. It's not only the cost of steering rack is high (claimed new one RM13k from service centre, RM9k+ or lower from workshop outside) but the dangerous situation when the steering rack fails. It can fail when one is still driving the vehicle on the road, and when it happens, you will not be able to turn the steering wheel as it will be very stiff. Imagine you suddenly can't turn the steering wheel left or right when you are still driving the car on the road. Very dangerous! I created a thread here https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/5382790

It started from last year, I spent RM3k for a half-cut steering rack. Perhaps it is a mistake on my part to save cost. Just after 8 months, the steering rack failed again and I had to spent another 2.7k to replace it. If it fails another time, I have no choice but to go for a new one. Apart from steering rack, the O2 sensor also failed, together with clock spring, and I spent RM1.5k for the replacement of all these parts at the cheapest workshop in town. If at other workshops, it will cost me RM2k. Also replaced front suspension RM2k original.

So all in all, in just within 8 months, I have spent RM9.2k just to keep the car going on the road. If I went for new steering rack the cost would be higher. I am not sure about your mk3.5 but if it isn't the steering rack, the cost of maintenance would be fine. It's the steering rack where the price of a new one is high.

Honda vehicles are not in my shortlist all this while as the quality is poor to me. The design of the new Civic is good but every Honda cars I sat in will show higher than normal rattling sound. Perhaps others who are not critical will be able to accept it but I am sensitive to rattling sound which shows poor QAQC. The new Civic (low and mid spec) looks good. The looks of the RS isn't to my taste as I am an old man already, perhaps will appeal to youngsters. I don't go for power and spec these days but more to comfort, quietness and smooth drive with little to zero rattling sound inside the cabin. The Toyota Corolla Altis is at the top of my list at the moment. Some people pay a lot of attention to the screen at the centre of the dashboard claiming the Android system is outdated or the screen is low resolution or doesn't have 360 degrees camera etc. but I don't put any emphasis to it at all. My priority is just to have a safe a problem-free car, comfortable and quiet drive. No more sporty handling anymore as it is of no use if it keeps breaking down with high maintenance cost like the Ford Focus.
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Fully agreed. I am weekly traveller. One of the reason i am option for altis is because toyota reliability. I dont wanna keep car that always failed me on the road. This year, already stranded twice. Thank god i am alone. I could not imagine if my family with me at that time.

But how long shall we wait for the facelift version?

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Fully agreed. I am weekly traveller. One of the reason i am option for altis is because toyota reliability. I dont wanna keep car that always failed me on the road. This year, already stranded twice. Thank god i am alone. I could not imagine if my family with me at that time.

But how long shall we wait for the facelift version?
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Some people pay a lot of attention to the screen at the centre of the dashboard claiming the Android system is outdated or the screen is low resolution or doesn't have 360 degrees camera etc. but I don't put any emphasis to it at all.
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Bro, gen 12 Altis does came with 360 degree camera, at least that's what on the Test Drive 1.8G unit I drove... I still remember the salesman ask me to adapt looking at the screen instead of rear side mirror while doing reverse parking, haha.
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QUOTE(voscar @ Jun 2 2023, 01:27 PM)
Bro, gen 12 Altis does came with 360 degree camera, at least that's what on the Test Drive 1.8G unit I drove... I still remember the salesman ask me to adapt looking at the screen instead of rear side mirror while doing reverse parking, haha.
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all UMW Toyotas now come with 360 degree camera iinm. Even Vios and Veloz. It's one thing I think UMW did right for their models. But god damm they need to figure out how to integrate the infotainment nicely

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QUOTE(voscar @ Jun 2 2023, 01:27 PM)
Bro, gen 12 Altis does came with 360 degree camera, at least that's what on the Test Drive 1.8G unit I drove... I still remember the salesman ask me to adapt looking at the screen instead of rear side mirror while doing reverse parking, haha.
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Good to hear that bro. To me, it's a feature that is not a must-have but useful if provided. For me, the reverse beeping sensors would be good enough. I don't pay much attention to the touch screen or built-in features of any cars other than the air-conditioner controls.

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most Altis out of stock as per information from Salesman.
What is the next model ? Facelift or replacement model ?
Any news and spec when will release ?
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Corolla Altis faceliift (more like a spec or very minor cosmetic upgrade actually) just launched in Thailand last week

good news - still double wishbone rear

bad news - no changes when it comes to powertrain, still the old 1.8

their GR Sport Hybrid spec have the most upgrades - now comes with 12.3 inch digital cluster and a HUD. not sure if we will get this spec as CBU from Thailand?

there's rumours flying around that UMW will launch the Hybrid Altis as part of the facelift line up around July/Aug





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QUOTE(ZeneticX @ Jun 14 2023, 03:07 AM)
Corolla Altis faceliift (more like a spec or very minor cosmetic upgrade actually) just launched in Thailand last week

good news - still double wishbone rear

bad news - no changes when it comes to powertrain, still the old 1.8

there's rumours flying around that UMW will launch the Hybrid Altis as part of the facelift line up around July/Aug


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Is the Thailand model a 1.8 hybrid? If the Thailand model is a hybrid, then chances are high it's a hybrid here as well since we are importing the CBU model from Thailand? Hopefully rumour is true it's a hybrid otherwise the new model won't make much sense. Ideally they price it around RM140k also.
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QUOTE(SportyHandling @ Jun 14 2023, 12:17 PM)
Is the Thailand model a 1.8 hybrid? If the Thailand model is a hybrid, then chances are high it's a hybrid here as well since we are importing the CBU model from Thailand? Hopefully rumour is true it's a hybrid otherwise the new model won't make much sense. Ideally they price it around RM140k also.
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Thailand have 1.6, 1.8 and 1.8 hybrid

Rumour is they gonna CKD the 1.8 hybrid model but I feel its not gonna be as fully loaded as the Thai GRS model. (No 12.3 inch digital cluster and HUD)
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Thailand have 1.6, 1.8 and 1.8 hybrid

Rumour is they gonna CKD the 1.8 hybrid model but I feel its not gonna be as fully loaded as the Thai GRS model. (No 12.3 inch digital cluster and HUD)
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Thanks for the information. A lot of rumours waiting to be proven, soon. CKD will be surely cheaper but I'm afraid it will ruin the quality of the vehicle, just like what Honda Malaysia did to their cars. Does Toyota have a manufacturing plant in Malaysia producing CKD vehicles at this moment or for the past years?
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Thanks for the information. A lot of rumours waiting to be proven, soon. CKD will be surely cheaper but I'm afraid it will ruin the quality of the vehicle, just like what Honda Malaysia did to their cars. Does Toyota have a manufacturing plant in Malaysia producing CKD vehicles at this moment or for the past years?
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Corolla Cross and Veloz are CKD

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QUOTE(SportyHandling @ Jun 14 2023, 02:20 PM)
Thanks for the information. A lot of rumours waiting to be proven, soon. CKD will be surely cheaper but I'm afraid it will ruin the quality of the vehicle, just like what Honda Malaysia did to their cars. Does Toyota have a manufacturing plant in Malaysia producing CKD vehicles at this moment or for the past years?
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Corolla Cross and Veloz are CKD
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Vios, Yaris, Rush, Veloz, Corolla Cross, Hilux, Fortuner are all CKD

their plant is at Bukit Raja

imo CKD and CBU Thailand difference is negligible, it boils down to your luck

CBU Japan is a different story

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Close to the end of the month and nothing yet from Toyota on this new Corolla.

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QUOTE(SportyHandling @ Jun 25 2023, 10:48 AM)
Close to the end of the month and nothing yet from Toyota on this new Corolla.
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QUOTE(jackpop @ Jun 25 2023, 10:15 PM)
Heard it will launch around August.
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Thanks for the information. Any other leaks beside the launch date? Hybrid engine, improved interior etc.?
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The different between current Altis and Altis facelift based on Thailand 1.8, below is what I observed from the youtube video. Please topup differences:

1) Wireless apple car play and android auto
2) 2 USB-C ports below rear aircon
3) 60-40 adjustable rear seat
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Anything you guys know, please share.
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Those differences are not really important to me especially item no. 1. Hopefully there are larger differences such as a different engine..
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QUOTE(SportyHandling @ Jun 25 2023, 10:56 PM)
Those differences are not really important to me especially item no. 1. Hopefully there are larger differences such as a different engine..
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Yes, the difference not really make big impact. Can consider current version if there is still some left over stock from SA. Current rebate is RM8000 from Toyota
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Any sales agent that still has stock with 8k or more discount?

QUOTE(jackpop @ Jun 25 2023, 11:04 PM)
Yes, the difference not really make big impact. Can consider current version if there is still some left over stock from SA. Current rebate is RM8000 from Toyota
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QUOTE(jackpop @ Jun 25 2023, 10:46 PM)
The different between current Altis and Altis facelift based on Thailand 1.8, below is what I observed from the youtube video. Please topup differences:

1) Wireless apple car play and android auto
2) 2 USB-C ports below rear aircon
3) 60-40 adjustable rear seat
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Anything you guys know, please share.
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QUOTE(SportyHandling @ Jun 25 2023, 10:56 PM)
Those differences are not really important to me especially item no. 1. Hopefully there are larger differences such as a different engine..
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There wont be any new engines unfortunately. Best you could hope for is the 1.8 hybrid
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QUOTE(ZeneticX @ Jun 26 2023, 12:58 AM)
There wont be any new engines unfortunately. Best you could hope for is the 1.8 hybrid
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1.8 hybrid engine is considered as a new engine to my definition since the existing engine in the Corolla is a 1.8 NA. It's surprising there is hardly any information or leaks about the new Corolla model when it's due to launch in 1 or 2 months time.

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QUOTE(SportyHandling @ Jun 26 2023, 08:14 AM)
1.8 hybrid engine is considered as a new engine to my definition since the existing engine in the Corolla is a 1.8 NA. It's surprising there is hardly any information or leaks about the new Corolla model when it's due to launch in 1 or 2 months time.
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Malaysia Altis 1.8 Engine is 2ZR-FE


While the Thailand version of 1.8 NA engine is 2ZR-FBE
and Hybrid version is 2ZR-FXE

Not sure what is new version FBE is about. Anyone of you know ?
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Malaysia Altis 1.8 Engine is 2ZR-FE
While the Thailand version of 1.8 NA engine is 2ZR-FBE
and Hybrid version is 2ZR-FXE

Not sure what is new version FBE is about. Anyone of you know ?
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QUOTE(ZeneticX @ Jun 26 2023, 12:58 AM)
There wont be any new engines unfortunately. Best you could hope for is the 1.8 hybrid
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Called 3 Toyota dealers this morning. Two informed no more stock throughout Malaysia, one dealer informed limited stock and will check if there's any available, and he just texted me no more available. If you know of any dealers that still have the high spec 1.8G in Celestite Gray for sale, can let me know.

Also, it was mentioned that the new Corolla will just be a facelift, no hybrid engine as it will still use the same old engine. If it's just adding a few USB ports here and there and some other useless features added here and there, I'd say forget it. I'll go look for a Mazda 3 although comfort-wise it will lose to the Corolla.
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QUOTE(jackpop @ Jun 25 2023, 11:04 PM)
Yes, the difference not really make big impact. Can consider current version if there is still some left over stock from SA. Current rebate is RM8000 from Toyota
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Yes, RM8k is the standard rebate from what I was told. However, the highest discount (standard RM8k + SA rebate) is said to be RM12k at this point. Though, it's no more use since there's no more Corolla model for sale already.
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Has any Corolla (current model) owner here compared the Corolla sedan to the Corolla Cross non-hybrid? Would be interested to hear your thoughts on the differences between the 2 vehicles mainly in these areas:-

1. Acceleration power. Is it true that the Corolla sedan has better acceleration as claimed due to lighter wieght? I noticed that the difference in weight is minimal. The SUV is only 40kg heavier than the sedan.

2. Handling and suspension. Which is more comfortable? Almost the same? For long journey comfort, which is more comfortable?

3. Rear space and legroom. The rear space of the sedan is roomier and larger than the SUV on paper and real life right?

4. I noticed the Corolla sedan comes with ECO and SPORTS mode. Does the Sports mode contribute to a sportier driving dynamics of the Corolla when compared to normal mode vs. the Corolla Cross non-hybrid especially GR Sport?

5. Any other meaningful or worthwhile differences worth mentioning other than one is SUV while the other is sedan? Things like SUV is higher and sedan is lower, ground clearance is higher with SUV etc. those are already a given.

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5. Any other meaningful or worthwhile differences worth mentioning other than one is SUV while the other is sedan? Things like SUV is higher and sedan is lower, ground clearance is higher with SUV etc. those are already a given.
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Sedan is using Double Wishbone for rear suspension while Cross uses Torsion Beam
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Sedan is using Double Wishbone for rear suspension while Cross uses Torsion Beam
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Yes, I noticed on that too in the specifications, thanks. I presume the double wishbone at the rear suspension of the Corolla sedan is a superior setup that will improve handling but I'm not sure if it brings any meaningful differences in real life driving. If yes, do people find the Corolla sedan to have improved cornering capabilities during spirited drives when compared to the Corolla Cross, and in what sense it is "better"? From what I gather, there is little to zero difference between torsion beam and double wishbone in normal or sedate driving conditions.

Also, the Corolla Cross GR Sports come with "performance bracing" added to the vehicle although it has a torsion beam at the rear. Hence, I'm not sure how do all these add up.

1. Double Wishbone without bracing (Corolla sedan)
2. Torsion beam with bracing (Corolla Cross GR Sport)
3. Torsion beam without bracing (Corollas Cross normal versions)

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When I test drove both Corolla Cross hybrid and Corolla GR Sport, I can't derive any meaningful difference between the two vehicles although the GR Sport has some mechanical improvements added to it (performance bracing, stiffer tuned front and rear suspension, EPS with Sports ECU). Either the differences are negligible, or the test drive conditions are not conducive, the short test-drive routes are just around the showroom with many vehicles all mostly crawling at tortoise speeds so there isn't any chance to do any spirited drives other than on certain long stretches where hard acceleration can be evaluated. That's about it, hard acceleration testing where the power can be evaluated. There isn't any opportunity to do any hard cornering to gauge the other improved aspects of the suspension and steering of the GR Sports.

In summary, I wonder if there are people who have experienced both Corolla sedan and Corolla Cross in more favourable conditions or perhaps owning both cars and have extensive hands-on experience with these vehicles.
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SportyHandling are you looking at Mazda CX-30 as well since the price point of new Altis facelift is almost similar to CX-30 High+ spec CKD now but CX-30 having 2.0 engine and much better interior
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SportyHandling are you looking at Mazda CX-30 as well since the price point of new Altis facelift is almost similar to CX-30 High+ spec CKD now but CX-30 having 2.0 engine and much better interior
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Yes I am aware of that. However, it's really going to be a Toyota either the Cross GR Sport or Corolla sedan. 1.8-litre engine of the non-hybrid GR Sport is adequately powerful to me. Performance is not the main criteria for me, interior Mazda may win but I'm going with Toyota's dependable reliability.

Mazda CX30 High+ is about RM150k, not far off from Corolla Cross but still a bit more expensive. Trying to keep it below RM145k, the lower the better.
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Also, the looks of the Cross GR Sport has grown on me especially the revised front grille which makes the overall vehicle look much better now compared to the normal versions of the Cross, coupled with the albino (clear) lights at the rear. I am aware the Mazda CX30 has much better classy looking interior. However, I'm not too fond of the exterior of the CX30 particularly the big piece of black cladding all round the vehicle around the tyres which in my view made the car look less appealing and classy.

I also feel that the wow factor of the Mazda CX30 / CX5 in terms of exterior looks and design has somewhat worn off. When the original CX5 was firstly launched many years ago, they looked good, and after the facelift model came out and then CX30 came out, they looked even better. However, fast forward today, the design looks a bit "old" now, perhaps seeing the vehicle for too long as it became common already. Unlike the new Mazda 3 it still looks good though. Also, the CX30 looks a bit small to me when I look at it several times when driving on the road, the last being yesterday. Not too sure why it looked smaller than its actual size but perhaps the lower height made it look smaller when compared to say Toyota Corolla Cross which looked larger. I now prefer the looks of the Toyota Corolla Cross especially GR Sport to the Mazda CX30 solely on the exterior. The new design from Toyota has been much improved in terms of looks and elegance.

The Mazda 3 sedan looks good both exterior and interior and if I were to pick a Mazda, it would be the Mazda 3 sedan and not the CX30. Nevertheless, the choice is more or less confirmed, which is a Toyota.

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SportyHandling Not sure if you're inside Altis club, today one member collected new non-facelift Altis at JB. She's been looking around for long time, everywhere told her no stock, but eventually found this and ordered on May...
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SportyHandling Not sure if you're inside Altis club, today one member collected new non-facelift Altis at JB. She's been looking around for long time, everywhere told her no stock, but eventually found this and ordered on May...
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Thanks. I am actually a little half-hearted in the search of the current non-facelift Corolla sedan since the Corolla Cross GR Sport now looks more appealing and is a newer model just launched earlier this year even though the current Corolla was sold at a massive discount. When I was at the Toyota showroom earlier, I told the sales person that apart from the standard RM8k discount, there are sales people who gave an additional RM4k discount so the total cash rebate is RM12k. He told me if there's one available for sale, he could sell it to me at RM15k discount as he has sold some at that price!! Don't know if that's true or not, may be just sweet talk.

Although the new upcoming Corolla sedan is still an option 2nd choice to the Cross GR Sport, I"m curious to know about the changes as small or trivial as they may be, and also the final price since being a CKD I can't imagine the model to be sold at the same price not to mention higher than the current CBU Thailand Corolla. It can't make any sense for CKD model to be priced the same or higher than CBU model.

We're actually hoping that there would be a cash rebate from Toyota for the month of August or September for either Corolla Cross GR Sport or new Corolla sedan, hence the wait. If there's none, we'll likely proceed as planned.

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By the way, for recent buyers of new Toyota vehicles, may I ask what is the current or lowest interest rate you've got, and from which bank? I was told that the minimum load period is 2 years (I wanted 1 year but that's not possible) with minimum RM40k or 50k loan.
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Anyone has idea why the sensor lights around the car were blinking simultaneously?

There’s no cars or items nearby. Tried turning it off and on but seems faulty?
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QUOTE(ZeneticX @ Jul 6 2023, 07:07 PM)
Somehow UMW Toyota fb is still advertising the Corolla


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I emailed them, not once but twice last month to inquire on the new Corolla model and to notify that Toyota website still shows the June (and now July) promo for the Corolla sedan when it's not available for sale anymore after I inquired at few showrooms. All sales people mentioned it's out of stock throughout Malaysia.

This is the response I've got. I don't think they care anymore. Although the Corolla model is not available for sale anymore since last month, they still show the Corolla model on the Toyota website.

Greetings from Toyota Malaysia and thank you for your e-mail.
Kindly be informed that we are not able to confirm this information at the moment.
Feel free to visit our website for our current model line-up and for the latest news on any new model introduction, if any - click here.
We hope the above addresses your queries sufficiently.
Please do not hesitate to contact our Toyota Freephone at 1800-8-TOYOTA (869682) should you require any further assistance with regards to your Toyota in the future.

Thank you and best regards,
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Thank you for your reply.
We sincerely regret to inform you that our stocks for Corolla Altis are limited at the moment and depending on stocks availability of each outlet.
Feel free to visit/contact any Toyota Sales Outlet about your interest so that our Sales Advisors can get in touch with you to provide further information (e.g. trade-in, viewing/test drive, down payment, on-going promotions/rebates, documentation, financing options, Customer Waiting Period @CWP, etc). Click here - Toyota Sales Locator
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As of today, Corolla model is still shown on Toyota's website. Toyota doesn't bother to remove the model from the website and show a teaser of the new upcoming Corolla model to notify people of the facelift replacement model. They should have updated the information since June last month.

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As of today, Corolla model is still shown on Toyota's website. Toyota doesn't bother to remove the model from the website and show a teaser of the new upcoming Corolla model to notify people of the facelift replacement model. They should have updated the information since June last month.

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but they updated the pricelist pdf file for prices effective from 3rd July, and with GR Sport package

as the article written, this is likely the teaser to the facelift

paultan .org/2023/07/06/toyota-corolla-gr-sport/


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QUOTE(General_Nic @ Jul 7 2023, 10:42 AM)
but they updated the pricelist pdf file for prices effective from 3rd July, and with GR Sport package

as the article written, this is likely the teaser to the facelift

paultan .org/2023/07/06/toyota-corolla-gr-sport/
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So the prices for the Corolla new model are already published on the website, but there is no information on the changes? I noticed the brochure of the Corolla is still the old one based on the current (old) model. Not proper as the information for the NEW Corolla both spec and price should be published at the same time.

Anyway, I noticed the price of the high spec NEW Corolla model has been increased to RM147,800 now. If I'm not mistaken, the current(OLD) high-spec Corolla model was sold at RM142,800? With the RM15k rebate it's RM127,800 for current (OLD) high spec model. So this new model is now RM20k more expensive than the current model, and the changes are still unknown. Not good I would think and surprised that CKD locally is more expensive than CBU Thailand.

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So the prices for the Corolla new model are already published on the website, but there is no information on the changes? I noticed the brochure of the Corolla is still the old one based on the current (old) model. Not proper as the information for the NEW Corolla both spec and price should be published at the same time.

Anyway, I noticed the price of the high spec NEW Corolla model has been increased to RM147,800 now. If I'm not mistaken, the current(OLD) high-spec Corolla model was sold at RM142,800? With the RM15k rebate it's RM127,800 for current (OLD) high spec model. So this new model is now RM20k more expensive than the current model, and the changes are still unknown. Not good I would think and surprised that CKD locally is more expensive than CBU Thailand.
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may i know where to find source that mentions corolla will be CKD for malaysian market? the SA i have been communicating with told me it will still be CBU from Thai
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QUOTE(vkashin @ Jul 7 2023, 03:25 PM)
may i know where to find source that mentions corolla will be CKD for malaysian market? the SA i have been communicating with told me it will still be CBU from Thai
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The previous page ZeneticX mentioned rumours are the new Corolla will be CKD. Since your SA told you it's still CBU from Thailand, then the rumour may be a false one. If the new Corolla is still CBU from Thailand, then it's acceptable. However, the fact that remains is the current (old) Corolla which is not available for sale anymore was sold at RM20k cheaper (after discount) when compared to the new Corolla.

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Legacy 1.8 engine with GR Sport package... what?!

I'm not sure about other, I test drove gen12 1.8G before, uninspiring acceleration, no oomph, so I moved on to get gen11.5 2.0v instead...

Normal E or G spec version use back 1.8 ok la, but GR Sport should give other powertrain...
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QUOTE(SportyHandling @ Jul 7 2023, 04:07 PM)
The previous page ZeneticX mentioned rumours are the new Corolla will be CKD. Since your SA told you it's still CBU from Thailand, then the rumour may be a false one. If the new Corolla is still CBU from Thailand, then it's acceptable. However, the fact that remains is the current (old) Corolla which is not available for sale anymore was sold at RM20k cheaper (after discount) when compared to the new Corolla.
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look at our MYR enough

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Legacy 1.8 engine with GR Sport package... what?!

I'm not sure about other, I test drove gen12 1.8G before, uninspiring acceleration, no oomph, so I moved on to get gen11.5 2.0v instead...

Normal E or G spec version use back 1.8 ok la, but GR Sport should give other powertrain...
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Gen11.5 2.0V, meaing you got from the second hand market?
On paper the engine specs such as hp and torque between 1.8 and 2.0 for this model doesn't look very big difference..but not sure about the actual driving feel..what's your review so far?
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Gen11.5 2.0V, meaing you got from the second hand market?
On paper the engine specs such as hp and torque between 1.8 and 2.0 for this model doesn't look very big difference..but not sure about the actual driving feel..what's your review so far?
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Several test-drive on Youtube revealed the current latest Corolla under TNGA platform to be vastly improved in handling whereas the old Corolla or Toyota cars in general are only good in comfort (soft suspension) but lacking in handling. The latest Toyota models with TNGA platform were said to have been noticeably improved in areas of handling while maintaining comfort. In one of the test drive videos of YS Khong up Genting Highlands, he has made this remark. He gave very good reviews on the Corolla when he brought it up Genting Highlands. Anyway, I don't think he ever gave any poor reviews as all the vehicles he tested all handled good or great to him. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(voscar @ Jul 7 2023, 06:53 PM)
Legacy 1.8 engine with GR Sport package... what?!

I'm not sure about other, I test drove gen12 1.8G before, uninspiring acceleration, no oomph, so I moved on to get gen11.5 2.0v instead...

Normal E or G spec version use back 1.8 ok la, but GR Sport should give other powertrain...
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The GR Sport package of the new Corolla doesn't look appealing or good value to me. The only mechanical tuning or difference is in the suspension while the rest are all cosmetic, unlike the Corolla Cross GR Sport where there are 3 mechanical changes or tuning in the suspension, steering and additional bracing at the bottom of the vehicle. The additional premium of RM5k between the GR version of the Corolla Cross and Corolla is the same but the Cross gets more mechanical differences/tuning. Perhaps the body kit of the new Corolla sedan is more substantial than the Cross and costs higher.

Haven't seen the Corolla sedan GR Sport in real life but the normal versions look good as it is. Hopefully they don't ruin the looks of the vehicle to make it like a racer boy car with the body kit. In my mind, Toyota did a great job with the Corolla Cross GR Sport as it looked better on the exterior than the normal Cross version mainly due to the revised grille at the front.
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Gen11.5 2.0V, meaing you got from the second hand market?
Answer: Yes

On paper the engine specs such as hp and torque between 1.8 and 2.0 for this model doesn't look very big difference..but not sure about the actual driving feel..what's your review so far?
Answer: Well I have not drove gen11.5 1.8 before. For gen12 with 1.8, i feel smooth slow on acceleration, but when you want sudden power and press heavier throttle, the engine and gearbox feels stubborn to react and no changes on the speed.
Well, to be fair gen12 was heavier than gen11.5, so 1.8 on gen11.5 could be good enough. And I suspect the gen12 gear logic was tuned for fuel saving in standard driving mode.

There's one member at Facebook group upgraded from gen11.5 2.0V to gen12, already 1 year he said until now still trying to adapt to it, he has to switch to sports mode all the time when drive on highway.

SportyHandling Yes, I feel the body roll on gen11.5 for me is quite big. I remembered I test drove both Civic Ketam and this car at the same used car dealer, once came to the roundabout, already feel the gen11.5's tall body and body roll, while Civic Ketam just went through without such sensation.
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Just to update. The Toyota salesman at the PJ branch had called me today to inform that there is a unit of Corolla (high spec) in white that is still available at a RM11k discount. First come first serve. If anyone is interested I will post the contact here on this thread.

We have decided to go with Corolla Cross GR Sport so won't be getting the current Corolla even with the 11k discount.
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RM11k first come first serve. White. If you are still interested I can forward the contact to you. PJ laser Motor.
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Send me the details. Is it display car? Thanks

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RM11k first come first serve. White. If you are still interested I can forward the contact to you. PJ laser Motor.
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before facelift news come out, already booked 1.8G in April (3 months ago) with 8k discount + SA discount 3k.
SA said can get car in May, if cannot get in May, sure can get in June.

May, called SA, SA say no stock
June, called SA, SA say no stock

Now already July, SA said no stock again and waiting new promotion package.

Toyota can tarik balik the 8k discount? Is it fair to consumer because I already booked a unit since April and Toyota promised a 8k discount.



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QUOTE(propusers @ Jul 17 2023, 08:43 AM)
before facelift news come out, already booked 1.8G in April (3 months ago) with 8k discount + SA discount 3k.
SA said can get car in May, if cannot get in May, sure can get in June.

May, called SA, SA say no stock
June, called SA, SA say no stock

Now already July, SA said no stock again and waiting new promotion package.

Toyota can tarik balik the 8k discount? Is it fair to consumer because I already booked a unit since April and Toyota promised a 8k discount.
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I'm facing the same issue but its from the competitor and what the SA said is to wait for the launch and see if there's any promotion offered. So for me if there's no discount and with the price increase significantly I will just cancel my booking. smile.gif

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QUOTE(propusers @ Jul 17 2023, 08:43 AM)
before facelift news come out, already booked 1.8G in April (3 months ago) with 8k discount + SA discount 3k.
SA said can get car in May, if cannot get in May, sure can get in June.

May, called SA, SA say no stock
June, called SA, SA say no stock

Now already July, SA said no stock again and waiting new promotion package.

Toyota can tarik balik the 8k discount? Is it fair to consumer because I already booked a unit since April and Toyota promised a 8k discount.
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I'm baffled by this. I made a booking few days before Raya in April. Got my loan approved in 1 day - I was in rush, so no waiting, straight agree with CIMB's rate - and get the car 2 days before Raya.

Now almost 3 months used.

I bought from SS15 branch there. If you want, I can give the SA contact to you.


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Anyone has any news on the new facelift which was scheduled to be announced this month? So far they have been very silent on the variants to be introduced 🤦🏼‍♂️
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still a boring car
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QUOTE(matrix88 @ Aug 25 2023, 01:36 PM)
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Yes, but it's tuned more toward comfort with some handling elements thrown in. The current plain Corolla looks good as it is. Hopefully the GR Sport version won't ruin the looks of the car by turning it to look like Fast and Furious racer boy cars which may appeal more to youngsters.
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QUOTE(SportyHandling @ Aug 25 2023, 01:45 PM)
Yes, but it's tuned more toward comfort with some handling elements thrown in. The current plain Corolla looks good as it is. Hopefully the GR Sport version won't ruin the looks of the car by turning it to look like Fast and Furious racer boy cars which may appeal more to youngsters.
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comfort should not be badged GR sports la. it would probably sit on bigger rim, some skirting, maybe sports springs.
wont be tuned for comfort for sure!!!!
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QUOTE(matrix88 @ Aug 25 2023, 01:36 PM)
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Corolla's selling point: boring but it works
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QUOTE(matrix88 @ Aug 25 2023, 01:50 PM)
comfort should not be badged GR sports la. it would probably sit on bigger rim, some skirting, maybe sports springs.
wont be tuned for comfort for sure!!!!
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It's not a "true" GR Sport as there's a separate fleet of those vehicles available starting from RM300k and above. The Corolla Cross and Corolla sedan with GR Sport badge are known to have good comfort while having a bit of decent handling. I have test driven the Corolla Cross "GR Sport" and can verify it's rather comfortable!
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QUOTE(SportyHandling @ Aug 25 2023, 02:44 PM)
It's not a "true" GR Sport as there's a separate fleet of those vehicles available starting from RM300k and above. The Corolla Cross and Corolla sedan with GR Sport badge are known to have good comfort while having a bit of decent handling. I have test driven the Corolla Cross "GR Sport" and can verify it's rather comfortable!
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even the Cross GR Sports is also advertised as Tuned Sports Suspension, there is no mentioning of Comfort!!!!!
go to toyota.com.my and check it out.
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QUOTE(SportyHandling @ Aug 25 2023, 02:44 PM)
It's not a "true" GR Sport as there's a separate fleet of those vehicles available starting from RM300k and above. The Corolla Cross and Corolla sedan with GR Sport badge are known to have good comfort while having a bit of decent handling. I have test driven the Corolla Cross "GR Sport" and can verify it's rather comfortable!
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Facebook got post complaining Corolla Cross GR Sport very bad handling compared to Honda BRV and Iriz
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Facebook got post complaining Corolla Cross GR Sport very bad handling compared to Honda BRV and Iriz
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I"m not sure who are those people but that surely does not coincide with my experience. I've not driven the Honda BRV or Iriz before but test driven the Honda City and CRV and the handling of the Corolla Cross GR Sport is surely much better than the City and CRV which in turn handle worse than Proton Preve Turbo. The most important aspect of the GR Sport Corolla Cross is the vehicle feels solid with good (quick) throttle response. The build quality of Toyotas in general is much higher than Hondas. If one looks at the kerb weight of the Corolla Cross GR Sport and the equivalent Honda HRV, he will notice that the HRV is almost 200kg lighter than the Corolla Cross.
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Toyota Malaysia has unveiled the 2023 Corolla Altis facelift, this time with the GR Sport variant made available. Available in 3 variants, prices start from RM139,800 up to RM152,800.

Improvements across the range have been made, such as:

- Refreshed exterior design and new colour option
- USB port upgraded to Type C port
- Keyless entry now available on the front driver and passenger doors
- 12.3-inch driver digital display (G and GR Sport only)
- Added wireless charging clip
- Seat design improvement
- Reduced intake noise

For RM5,000 extra from the G variant, the GR Sport version adds:

- GR Sport design
- GR alloy wheels
- GR interior finishing
- GR suspension tuning
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QUOTE(SportyHandling @ Aug 28 2023, 12:08 PM)
I"m not sure who are those people but that surely does not coincide with my experience. I've not driven the Honda BRV or Iriz before but test driven the Honda City and CRV and the handling of the Corolla Cross GR Sport is surely much better than the City and CRV which in turn handle worse than Proton Preve Turbo. The most important aspect of the GR Sport Corolla Cross is the vehicle feels solid with good (quick) throttle response. The build quality of Toyotas in general is much higher than Hondas. If one looks at the kerb weight of the Corolla Cross GR Sport and the equivalent Honda HRV, he will notice that the HRV is almost 200kg lighter than the Corolla Cross.
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your comparison is all over the place (Cross with City, CRV with Preve) and i can positively tell you that you are wrong, there is no way that the Cross can handle better than a City with both being in stock unless the Cross is engineered to defy the law of physics. i can agree however if you say you "feel" it is better since feel is subjective and cannot be objectively assessed - further, your use of the operative word "much better" is just doh.gif

by the way, you also cannot compare the weight between the Cross and the HRV - both uses different engine capacities doh.gif


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your comparison is all over the place (Cross with City, CRV with Preve) and i can positively tell you that you are wrong, there is no way that the Cross can handle better than a City with both being in stock unless the Cross is engineered to defy the law of physics. i can agree however if you say you "feel" it is better since feel is subjective and cannot be objectively assessed - further, your use of the operative word "much better" is just  doh.gif

by the way, you also cannot compare the weight between the Cross and the HRV - both uses different engine capacities  doh.gif
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So you say there is no way the Cross handles better than the City and I say that is true for my case. The handling of the vehicle is not solely on the laws of physics being the SUV sitting higher than a sedan. It's a combination of the steering feel, the suspension and the chassis, and I can tell you the City handles terrible. Of course I can expand on it if you think the terms I used "feel" or "better" is not helping in any way. It's not every time people will spend time writing a long essay in detail but since you have asked. The steering of the City is not only light but feels loose with low feedback which contributes to poor or reduced handling of the vehicle, apart from the soft floaty suspension. IN contrast, the steering of the Ford Focus although light, it is accurate with high feedback. You feel like you are in control of the vehicle with the steering wheel of the Ford Focus but with the City, it's just a loose steering where during cornering at higher speeds more focus is required due to the looseness. The Proton Preve's steering is much stiffer than both City and Focus but it's accurate and tight and not loose like the City.

My test-drive of the Corolla Cross GR Sport and hybrid is just a short one but that is enough for me to tell me the handling is at a much higher level than the Honda City and the CRV. The City is poor, and the CRV is one level poorer. If the City's handling is superior to the Cross to you, I won't say you are wrong. I will say your expectations may be different, or you look at different things. But one thing is sure, the City is one of the worst handling vehicle I have driven notwithstanding the poor rattling sound that plague all Honda vehicles including Civic and Accord. All the vehicles are from previous generations and I'm not sure if the current latest models have shown improved quality in terms of NVH and rattling sound but I doubt it.

You can say I can't compare the weight between the Cross and HRV but I have compared it. Different engine capacities still can be compared since it's the same segment vehicle.
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QUOTE(SportyHandling @ Aug 29 2023, 12:46 PM)
So you say there is no way the Cross handles better than the City and I say that is true for my case. The handling of the vehicle is not solely on the laws of physics being the SUV sitting higher than a sedan. It's a combination of the steering feel, the suspension and the chassis, and I can tell you the City handles terrible. Of course I can expand on it if you think the terms I used "feel" or "better" is not helping in any way. It's not every time people will spend time writing a long essay in detail but since you have asked. The steering of the City is not only light but feels loose with low feedback which contributes to poor or reduced handling of the vehicle, apart from the soft floaty suspension. IN contrast, the steering of the Ford Focus although light, it is accurate with high feedback. You feel like you are in control of the vehicle with the steering wheel of the Ford Focus but with the City, it's just a loose steering where during cornering at higher speeds more focus is required due to the looseness. The Proton Preve's steering is much stiffer than both City and Focus but it's accurate and tight and not loose like the City.

My test-drive of the Corolla Cross GR Sport and hybrid is just a short one but that is enough for me to tell me the handling is at a much higher level than the Honda City and the CRV. The City is poor, and the CRV is one level poorer. If the City's handling is superior to the Cross to you, I won't say you are wrong. I will say your expectations may be different, or you look at different things. But one thing is sure, the City is one of the worst handling vehicle I have driven notwithstanding the poor rattling sound that plague all Honda vehicles including Civic and Accord. All the vehicles are from previous generations and I'm not sure if the current latest models have shown improved quality in terms of NVH and rattling sound but I doubt it.

You can say I can't compare the weight between the Cross and HRV but I have compared it. Different engine capacities still can be compared since it's the same segment vehicle.
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sorry to jump in, I think you are very bias and probably a Toyota fan or salesman.

so are you saying all Honda models lose to Cross? why compare Cross with City? same class or not? I doubt CRV even lose to City.
what model are you referring to be from previous generation? Civic FE is current generation.... Cross is latest tech? with CRT monitor there? hahaha
even in earlier thread you mentioned Cross GR will have more comfort suspension, which is wrong.


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QUOTE(matrix88 @ Aug 29 2023, 01:14 PM)
sorry to jump in, I think you are very bias and probably a Toyota fan or salesman.

so are you saying all Honda models lose to Cross? why compare Cross with City? same class or not? I doubt CRV even lose to City.
what model are you referring to be from previous generation? Civic FE is current generation.... Cross is latest tech? with CRT monitor there? hahaha
even in earlier thread you mentioned Cross GR will have more comfort suspension, which is wrong.
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No problem. I didn't respond to your post earlier as you are just like the earlier poster which doesn't seem to understand and maintained that it's wrong. Hence I didn't want to waste my time with you any further. So, I won't be responding to your post above.
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Details of the new Corolla and Corolla GR Sport came out yesterday. There isn't much change from the old Corolla to new Corolla but I have to say, the new Corolla GR Sports look rather nice and doesn't have the "racer boy" looks. Apart from the tuned suspension and new design black-coloured rims, the biggest difference with the GR Sport is with the front grilles. To me, the front grilles on the GR Sport looks a lot better a nicely integrated, forming a clean stright line across the Toyota logo.

The rear of the car looks the same except from the rear diffuser at the bottom of the vehicle which isn't visible in the photos posted on the internet. At a price of RM152,800 for the GR Sport which is RM10k higher than the Corolla Cross, I am not sure if it will sell well although looks-wise to me it is an improver version. As for handling aspects, it is yet to be verified if the sports-tuned suspension will bring more harm than good, spoiling the already excellent suspension of the current Corolla. If it is tuned too much toward handling then comfort-wise it will go down. The Corolla 1.8G at RM147,800 doesn't have much going in it and with a RM5k price hike, not sure if it's good buy.

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Yes, i verily believed that the Cross can never handle better than a City (in stock standard), it's just not possible but if you say you feel like the Cross handles better then it cannot be argued because it's your perception and opinions are never wrong but if you attempt to apply it objectively across the board then no, cannot.

Before you try to make any comparison, you first need to make sure that you are comparing apples to apples, not apples to pineapples - both the Cross and the City were engineered with a very different purpose in mind. "Loose" steering doesn't automatically mean "poor handling", it just means it's tuned for comfort/easy driving. I had an Accord and the steering has a little bit of play, not good for city driving but extremely comfortable for highway cruising so, should i say the Accord handles terribly?

Your second factor, suspension - every car has its own designated purpose. You cannot fault one for being soft when it's sedan and another being stiff for being a pick up truck. The current Mazda3 uses torsion beam for its rear suspension set up whereas the Corolla/Altis uses double wishbone (iirc), can we then say that the Mazda3 handles poorly?

This is why i mentioned in the beginning that you need to compare vehicles in the same category meant for the same purpose otherwise, it's like judging the intelligence of a fish with its ability to climb a tree.

I'm actually surprised that you can positively assert that the handling of the Cross is better than a City with a short test drive (which i must stress, a wrong comparison). Most car journalists are given at least a week with the car and go through various types of roads to determine that. Also, I did not and wouldn't say the City's handling is superior to the Cross, i said the Cross can never handle better than a City in bone stock.

I know you have compared the weight for both the Cross and HRV which is why (i reiterate) you cannot because the engine displacements for both are different (bigger engine weighs more) UNLESS they have the same power to weight ratio then it could be a fair fight but then again, this is arguable because the engine weight itself would have given the car different weight distribution (which also contributes to a car's handling performance overall).

EDITED: I need to add this - the handling of a car is indeed based *solely upon the law of physics*. Any person tries to argue otherwise is the same as denying the existence of the force of gravity acting upon each and every atom on planet Earth dry.gif

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Front view of new GR Sport reminds me of this device:

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That surely has some resemblance as the lower grille has been made wider. biggrin.gif Anyway at above RM150k it's already considered too costly for a Corolla. The standard Corolla 1.8G priced at RM147k with some minor improvements mainly cosmetics (apart from keyless entry for front passenger door which may be useful) is also RM5k costlier than the previous version. Nowadays all C-segment sedans are now priced the same as D-segment. Times have changed. The good old days of getting a C-segment between RM110k to 130k are gone.

At the current new prices of the Corolla sedan, I believe the interest will be more toward the value buy of the Corolla Cross.
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QUOTE(SportyHandling @ Sep 1 2023, 08:15 AM)
That surely has some resemblance as the lower grille has been made wider.  biggrin.gif  Anyway at above RM150k it's already considered too costly for a Corolla. The standard Corolla 1.8G priced at RM147k with some minor improvements mainly cosmetics (apart from keyless entry for front passenger door which may be useful) is also RM5k costlier than the previous version. Nowadays all C-segment sedans are now priced the same as D-segment. Times have changed. The good old days of getting a C-segment between RM110k to 130k are gone.

At the current new prices of the Corolla sedan, I believe the interest will be more toward the value buy of the Corolla Cross.
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Corolla is CBU while Cross is CKD.

Normally CBU is more expensive.
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Corolla is CBU while Cross is CKD.

Normally CBU is more expensive.
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I see. Corolla is still CBU from Thailand? I assumed the Corolla has started CKD but perhaps I was wrong.
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I see. Corolla is still CBU from Thailand? I assumed the Corolla has started CKD but perhaps I was wrong.
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Yes CBU from Thailand. Corolla and Camry are always CBU.

I believe the build quality is much better in Corolla and Camry.
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Any Corolla owners of the current model here? I was informed that there are many complaints on the Corolla Altis Gen12 Facebook Owner's page from gearbox problem (1 month warranty claim wait), headlamp burnt, exhaust pipe bush frequently broken, HU and dashcam problems, absorber oil leak within few months and frequently happen, engine idle suddenly drop to 500rpm with vibration then raise back to normal RPM.

Is this true?

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Yes CBU from Thailand. Corolla and Camry are always CBU.

I believe the build quality is much better in Corolla and Camry.
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QUOTE(SportyHandling @ Jan 4 2024, 11:54 AM)
Any Corolla owners of the current model here? I was informed that there are many complaints on the Corolla Altis Gen12 Facebook Owner's page from gearbox problem (1 month warranty claim wait), headlamp burnt, exhaust pipe bush frequently broken, HU and dashcam problems, absorber oil leak within few months and frequently happen, engine idle suddenly drop to 500rpm with vibration then raise back to normal RPM.

Is this true?
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Wheel bearing also, it's affecting since gen11 Altis, around 50k km can expect failure become noisy. Gen 12 latest one owner mileage 35k already complain wheel bearing noise.
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Wheel bearing also, it's affecting since gen11 Altis, around 50k km can expect failure become noisy. Gen 12 latest one owner mileage 35k already complain wheel bearing noise.
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Thanks for the information. That's a little surprising since I would expect a Toyota to be reliable when compared to all other cars. I've never experienced any issues as listed above for all my previous old cars Nissan Sylphy, Ford Focus more than 5 years old or even a Proton Preve Turbo. The rpm of the engine dropping to 500 and vibration inside car before the rpm goes back up to 1000+ when the vehicle is idle, this surely sounds serious and I can't imagine something like this to happen to any new cars even Proton or Perodua as in my 30 years of driving experience I haven't encountered anything like this before.

Did you experience this for your Altis? Any owners of the current Corolla care to share if your experienced all these issues which sound shocking to me. I test driven the Corolla GR Sport earlier and found that it's a nice car to drive, tuned more to comfort instead of sporty. The suspension is very nice which absorbs all the road imperfections and the cabin is fairly quiet. Overall it's a solid car from first impression.

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Toyota'S forte or main selling point is reliability and trouble-free so hearing all these issues especially for a new car is shocking.
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The rpm of the engine dropping to 500 and vibration inside car before the rpm goes back up to 1000+ when the vehicle is idle, this surely sounds serious and I can't imagine something like this to happen to any new cars even Proton or Perodua as in my 30 years of driving experience I haven't encountered anything like this before.

Did you experience this for your Altis? Any owners of the current Corolla care to share if your experienced all these issues which sound shocking to me.
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For this, yes, I would think it was the characteristic of the idle tuning, it was the compressor cutting off causing the rpm dropped, but this sudden action will drop the rpm too much, you'll feel the vibration, then the ECU tries to readjust back to 650-700 rpm. Then when compressor run again, it will slowly climb back up to 850 - 900 rpm.

Drove Proton gen2, idle was stable and consistent but high at 900rpm with compressor on and off, no such annoying idle. Drove VW Polo Sedan, idle would dropped when off AC but still around 700 rpm so not vibrate as bad.

You can join their Facebook group, search for Corolla Altis Gen 12 Malaysia, a few groups will appear, join in then you can know the owners discussion.

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QUOTE(voscar @ Jan 7 2024, 09:32 AM)
For this, yes, I would think it was the characteristic of the idle tuning, it was the compressor cutting off causing the rpm dropped, but the ECU dropped the rpm too much, you'll feel the vibration, then the ECU tries to readjust back to 650-700 rpm. Then when compressor run again, it will slowly climb back up to 850 - 900 rpm.

You can join their Facebook group, search for Corolla Altis Gen 12 Malaysia, a few groups will appear, join in then you can know the owners discussion.
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Thanks. The group is closed, only open to owners. Not interested to join and will just find out here on this forum from existing owners.

It's surprising, to me, if this is the characteristic of tuning in that the rpm will drop to 650-700 with vibration and climb back up. But perhaps it doesn't feel as bad in real life. Reading this feels like it is something that only old cars with worn out engine or clogged pipes which will show this. I don't have experience with this so I am not sure about the severity. If it's bad to the point of affecting the experience of the driver, I suppose the service centre will be able to rectify it to make sure the rpm will be stable and won't drop and cause vibration inside the vehicle when the car is stationary waiting at traffic lights. Or at least tune it to drop just a little if that's the inherent character of Toyota tuning..
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QUOTE(SportyHandling @ Jan 7 2024, 09:41 AM)
Thanks. The group is closed, only open to owners. Not interested to join and will just find out here on this forum from existing owners.

It's surprising, to me, if this is the characteristic of tuning in that the rpm will drop to 650-700 with vibration and climb back up. But perhaps it doesn't feel as bad in real life. Reading this feels like it is something that only old cars with worn out engine or clogged pipes which will show this. I don't have experience with this so I am not sure about the severity. If it's bad to the point of affecting the experience of the driver, I suppose the service centre will be able to rectify it to make sure the rpm will be stable and won't drop and cause vibration inside the vehicle when the car is stationary waiting at traffic lights. Or at least tune it to drop just a little if that's the inherent character of Toyota tuning..
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650-700 is ok already, the initial drop is brief moment to 500rpm which it vibrates, sometime you'll though the engine might dies in this brief second.

Well, nothingcan be done, some new owner open topic asking this after few weeks getting the car. But then, just matter of time you'll accustomed and accept this is the nature of ECU idle logic.

I knew it happen on gen 11, but thought it'll improve on gen 12, surprise to find out still same, probably same engine so not much changes on the tuning side.

Next time if you test drive, try to off aircond so compressor not running, drive around normally then when you brake to stop, that's the brief moment the "idle struggle". With ac on compressor running time you won't feel this...
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QUOTE(voscar @ Jan 7 2024, 10:23 AM)
650-700 is ok already, the initial drop is brief moment to 500rpm which it vibrates, sometime you'll though the engine might dies in this brief second.

Well, nothingcan be done, some new owner open topic asking this after few weeks getting the car. But then, just matter of time you'll accustomed and accept this is the nature of ECU idle logic.

I knew it happen on gen 11, but thought it'll improve on gen 12, surprise to find out still same, probably same engine so not much changes on the tuning side.

Next time if you test drive, try to off aircond so compressor not running, drive around normally then when you brake to stop, that's the brief moment the "idle struggle". With ac on compressor running time you won't feel this...
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Good to know. When I test drove the Corolla GR Sport, I didn't feel any vibration although the car was stationary just for a split second for once when waiting at U-turn, but this was with the air conditioner turned on all the time as usual. Will arrange for test drive another time if serious in considering the car. A bit of put off to hear these issues considering the famous "Toyota reliability" tagine but guess it's not perfect after all. If all these issues are plaguing the Corolla or other Toyota models (a Vios owner reported same rpm drop symptom on the main forum page but a rare occurrence), I am not sure what other hidden issues are prevalent with other car manufacturers. Nevertheless I presume issues can be fixed at service centres but it's just the inconvenience of sending the car to the SC to have problems fixed.

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@voscar does your car have noticeable or serious rattling sound inside the cabin? I am particular about rattling sound of poor fittings inside the cabin and have low tolerance to rattling sound, and from what I was made to understand the Corolla and higher Toyota models don't show much rattling sound when compared to other competitors and are fairly quiet when on the road.

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QUOTE(SportyHandling @ Jan 7 2024, 10:38 AM)
@voscar does your car have noticeable or serious rattling sound inside the cabin? I am particular about rattling sound of poor fittings inside the cabin and have low tolerance to rattling sound, and from what I was made to understand the Corolla and higher Toyota models don't show much rattling sound when compared to other competitors and are fairly quiet when on the road.
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There is rattling noise in my gen 11.5, the "massage chair" vibrate sensation on side passenger seat without occupancy when you driving and it'll have minor noise. It's a known issue I didn't realize previously until one fine day when driving alone, I see the seat was like massage chair vibrating on its own, something like resonance effect at certain speed + road undulations.

Then on the dashboard, there's noise when going through imperfect road, somewhere around radio to aircond vent area. I'm ok with that, just play music and you won't hear it.

For gen 12, if you on their Facebook group, yes there are some complaints on those rattling noise here and there. Quality on gen 12 seems getting worse tho.
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QUOTE(voscar @ Jan 7 2024, 12:45 PM)
There is rattling noise in my gen 11.5, the "massage chair" vibrate sensation on side passenger seat without occupancy when you driving and it'll have minor noise. It's a known issue I didn't realize previously until one fine day when driving alone, I see the seat was like massage chair vibrating on its own, something like resonance effect at certain speed + road undulations.

Then on the dashboard, there's noise when going through imperfect road, somewhere around radio to aircond vent area. I'm ok with that, just play music and you won't hear it.

For gen 12, if you on their Facebook group, yes there are some complaints on those rattling noise here and there. Quality on gen 12 seems getting worse tho.
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Thanks for the information. Appreciated. Looks like it's not all roses as what I've imagined.
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Been driving close to 6 months and 10k. Complained about rattling at both sides of seat belt slider area for the 1st 1k and 5k service but doesn't seems to be resolved so far. Going to complain again at 10k service but my guess is same outcome.
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QUOTE(jutamind @ Jan 7 2024, 08:04 PM)
Been driving close to 6 months and 10k. Complained about rattling at both sides of seat belt slider area for the 1st 1k and 5k service but doesn't seems to be resolved so far. Going to complain again at 10k service but my guess is same outcome.
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Thanks for the response. I hope you will get it sorted out during the next service. I have test driven the Corolla GR Sport earlier last month and the overall feel of the car is high quality. The suspension of the car feels more planted and nimble when compared to the Corolla Cross and is tuned toward comfort. I'm not sure how different is the Corolla GR Sport to the regular Corolla but my guess is the difference is minimal judging from my test drive experience of both Corolla Cross regular and GR Sport version. In other words the GR sport badge is a gimmick with minimal difference in the handling and performance of the vehicles as the changes are mainly in the looks.
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You may try other service centres if the current one you are visiting fails to resolve the issue of your car. Perhaps some pointers from other Corolla owners here might help but it appears that the owners here are not very active.
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Hi Altis lovers,

I just got my Altis the GR version and saw two white drops on the windshield. Initially, I thought it could be paint from my porch wall or ceiling due to heavy rain. So I removed them. After removing them I notice there where two sensor like 3mm diameter hole underneath. Anyone notice the intentional paint or marks to block the sensor which is on the passenger side wiper. You have to lift to see. I didn’t take photo of the paint but after removing I saw the underneath sensor like ciircle. Anyone else noticed it?

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Is a 5 year old used Altis a good buy?
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I see toyota website got 10k promo, got new facelift or just year end promo?
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QUOTE(sonotme @ Sep 30 2024, 10:17 PM)
I see toyota website got 10k promo, got new facelift or just year end promo?
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I would like to know too. Anyone knows? 🤔
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Is a 5 year old used Altis a good buy?
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Toyota is one of the choice to go if you can find a good used one.
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Any latest review on the altis? Or sales of altis is terrible now?

Interested but seems like going to have new face-lift soon, latest was from 2023
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QUOTE(dest9116 @ Feb 20 2025, 10:34 AM)
Any latest review on the altis? Or sales of altis is terrible now?

Interested but seems like going to have new face-lift soon, latest was from 2023
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Might as well wait for 13th gen altis

Its way past due for a revision
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Might as well wait for 13th gen altis

Its way past due for a revision
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bro u forgot to log out ur dupe account? brows.gif
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bro u forgot to log out ur dupe account?  brows.gif
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