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 Toyota Corolla Altis 12th Gen Owner/Fans Club, THE ALL-NEW COROLLA 2019 ~ 2020

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post Aug 2 2021, 12:02 AM

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is Altis Hybrid coming into Malaysia? It's underpowered by looking on the paper
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post Oct 20 2021, 12:08 AM

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QUOTE(psiloveu @ Aug 2 2021, 02:32 PM)
i dun think UMW will bring hybrid model to Malaysia...... the main factor is petrol price is cheap, less advantage with hybrid.
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they are going to CKD here and start with Corolla Cross first, so look forward to have the sedan too.

but
Petrol ENgine chunk out 98PS at 5,200 rpm and 142 Nm at 3,600 rpm
electric motors delivers 72 PS and 163 Nm

So how much it is for total torque ?
163 Nm will not be good if side by side with smaller Honda City RS

Any thought ?
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post Oct 20 2021, 12:11 AM

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QUOTE(kmmsa @ Oct 13 2021, 07:53 AM)
can I ask if there are any issues so far on the altis? deciding between civic and this and heard the civic has some issues like steering rack.

thanks guys
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Civic FC is already at the end of its cycle, so should be quite mature, but there are words from some on QC and aftersales, not sure if they are all owners or hear say

This generation of Altis looks great
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post Oct 22 2021, 08:01 PM

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QUOTE(psiloveu @ Oct 22 2021, 10:22 AM)
Toyota hybrid engine is not focus on power output but overall performance.
I m using CT200h, this machine is almost same as Cross Hybrid

from WIKI
The CT 200h is powered by the same 1.8-litre VVT-i four-cylinder petrol engine (Toyota's 2ZR-FXE) as used in the Auris and Prius, producing 73 kW (98 hp) and 142 N⋅m (105 lbf⋅ft) of torque, paired with electric motor/generators in the hybrid drive system; together the engine and electric motors produce up to 100 kW (134 hp) and 207 N⋅m (153 lbf⋅ft) of torque along with an electronically controlled continuously variable transmission. Fuel consumption for the CT 200h is listed at 4.1 L/100 km (57.4 mpg‑US) in Australia.[16]

Toyota Cross
The conventional petrol model uses a 1.8-litre 2ZR-FE/2ZR-FAE regular/2ZR-FBE flex fuel or a 2.0-litre M20A-FKS regular/M20A-FKB flex fuel four-cylinder petrol engines that produces 103 kW (138 hp; 140 PS) at 6,000 rpm and 177 N⋅m (131 lb⋅ft) of torque at 4,000 rpm and 126–130 kW (169–174 hp; 171–177 PS) at 6,600 rpm and 207–210 N⋅m (153–155 lb⋅ft) of torque at 4,400–4,800 rpm respectively, while hybrid variants gets the 1.8-litre 2ZR-FXE four-cylinder petrol engine that produces 72 kW (97 hp; 98 PS) at 5,200 rpm and 142 N⋅m (105 lb⋅ft) of torque at 3,600 rpm paired with an eCVT and works together with a 6.5-Ah nickel-metal hydride battery as well as an 1NM AC synchronous electric motor rated at 53 kW (71 hp; 72 PS) and 163 N⋅m (120 lb⋅ft) to provide a total system output of 90 kW (121 hp; 122 PS).
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So yours got a torque of 207nm but Newer Cross hybrid got only 163nm?
I never see any "Combined" torque mentioned so the peak torque is 163nm?

200nm and above is sufficient imo.
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post Nov 7 2021, 08:49 AM

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QUOTE(ktek @ Nov 6 2021, 03:35 PM)
as i heard civic steering becos of electric power steering driven by separate motor not enjin belt. so it detect overheat under some condition.
need to know this reason.

dont just look at numbers
actual drives is depend gearbox setup since torque can by multiply ratio

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Difference between the instant torque we get from motor vs the time take ICU to rev up to the peak torque ?
Maybe have to test drive it or look at the 0-100km/h data

like New Honda City Hybrid , 9.9 seconds to 100km/h for a light sedan is a bit different from other sedan with similar torque


QUOTE(ben3003 @ Nov 6 2021, 03:43 PM)
Li-ion at least la bro  sweat.gif NiMH slow charging, battery capacity and energy density is abysmal compare to li-ion. summore it is heavy. shit ancient technology batt.
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QUOTE(ben3003 @ Nov 6 2021, 03:43 PM)
Li-ion at least la bro  sweat.gif NiMH slow charging, battery capacity and energy density is abysmal compare to li-ion. summore it is heavy. shit ancient technology batt.
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Li-ion seems to be more sexy yeah, but something higher in cost and cost higher to have the surrounding set up in car to baby sit the energy intensive cell.
Also, Toyota seems to have totally different approach on reducing carbon emission where they opt for enhancing existing ICU technology, like hydrogen and hybrid tech. Tat different from full EV from their European and Chinese counterparts.

Seems like only time will tell who would be the mainstream in future, 5, 10, 30, 60, 100 years down the road, leave it to our children biggrin.gif
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post Nov 8 2021, 11:55 PM

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QUOTE(ktek @ Nov 7 2021, 06:50 PM)
motor is native high torque but cannot be multiply since he direct to wheel (most efficient way).
enjin torque at low rpm is less so we r using gear ratio bro. real output number on wheel could be triple and more (common implemented ratio on jp brand vehicles). not even peak torque rev up

beside that, we not using full potential yet. unless we able bypass dc pwm or ac inverter. without these we cannot make slow creep at all. easy example is rapid lrt /mrt

drive pecut sure shorthen d lifespan of every components therefore factory cant give long warranty as per offered now
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Can't really understand this "real output number on wheel could be triple and more (common implemented ratio on jp brand vehicles). "

Seems like the new Camry Hybrid's combined torque is lower than the torque of previous Camry Hybrid, so concur with what you are stating I guess.

 

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