There's a big difference between what you learn in school and normal conversational BM. A lot of Chinese will speak BM like how they learn in school but in day to day conversation, most Malays do not speak in that way. A lot of time, they use slangs which causes confusion. Nowadays, some are using Bahasa Wechat more. That is why you have Malay students themselves who failed BM.

One of my newly graduated colleague recently tried to speak BM to some Malays. When the Malays replied, he genuinely could not understand them because it sound so different from what he learn from school. Then he tried to speak some more and the Malays laugh at him. Not really their fault for laughing because it really sounds odd if you speak like you're reading from textbooks.

Not really making excuse but the fact is conversational BM is very different from school BM. Its like some people who speak English with Aussie, Scottish, etc. slang. Ask any Manchester United fans. Do they really understand what Alex Ferguson say last time when he was coach?

I don’t think he is a BM teacher. He is just a teacher, delivering his subject in BM. BM teacher will never mix their language in social media posting.

Nothing wrong with speaking in textbook BM if it is a properly textbook BM. When i first come to KL it took me few months to learn their slang and accent before i can speak like locals to. Most kelantanese never bother to change to KL accent at all despite sounding funny to people in KL.

I think what being discussed here is people who barely can construct a sentence in BM even in writing.

It will sound funny at first but after a while you either sound like them or they will get used to how you sound and wouldn’t giggle at you anymore.

But if you speak in BM in accent and slang of where you come from, people don’t actually mind. Most of my non friend are from states outside KL/Selangor, they speak BM in the accent of states where they come from, and people in KL don’t really mind them talking like that.

Key is to start young.

This non-BM speaking Malaysians is just a symptom of a bigger issue.

Root problem can be seen in this example.
Bahasa Malaysia is supposed to be YOUR language. If you think the national language is not yours and you even belittle and denigrate it then how do you expect other people to perceive you as a Malaysian?

I view this same as those idiots who disrespect the Jalur Gemilang.

That's the problem. Not everyone will have the confidence to try again and again and be laugh at.

I agree should start young but our school syllabus have never really emphasize on practical. Ujian lisan is a joke. Frankly, speaking they should really teach children on conversation usage of languages especially in primary schools instead of by the book type of teaching.

That's the problem. Not everyone will have the confidence to try again and again and be laugh at.

I agree should start young but our school syllabus have never really emphasize on practical. Ujian lisan is a joke. Frankly, speaking they should really teach children on conversation usage of languages especially in primary schools instead of by the book type of teaching.

sorry but a person citizenship is not determine by how will you speak the language or much you love the flag. lol

Well as per my post, I am not questioning the person's citizenship but his nationalism. If he/she does not feel like it's important to love or even know the national language (or the flag) then don't complain when people criticize them.

I've taught the so-called low achieving classes in secondary school. It's rather easy to blame them for their mastery of BM language, and say they're not patriotic or anything.

Hakikatnya mereka bukan sj BM x pandai, malah semua subjek pun xleh pakai. Klu bhs Cina (majority budak Cina dkt kelas sy ajar) pun pandai cakap basic aje, tulis pun ada masalah.

Sebenarnya mrk mmg masalah pembelajaran. Tp apa daya? Bukan semua guru dilatih untuk menangani pelajar masalah ini. Dan senang-senang org luar jadikan ni isu kaum.

Aih...

bodohnya

i malay also didnt expect my cina frens to fully understand BM.

as long as can communicate enough la

Well i agree our school syllabus is a joke. We need to revamp pretty much the whole thing. They expect the student to come in and know everything even before the class begin.

You guys complained about 3 pages of jawi, do you know our stupid syllabus expect standard one islam student to be able to read in jawi the moment they entered school? The whole pendidikan islam book for standard one is written in jawi when some of standard one student can’t even read in rumi. What kind of fcuked up syllabus is that?

And every school should have speak only <insert whatever language> day. If the student caught speaking in languages other than the language of the day, ask them to copy an essay or something as “fine”.

well nationalism is fucking stupid anyway, im gonna putar sikit. how is proficiency in the language shows nationalism? or love for the country? i love french cuisine, love the language, love the songs, but i sure as hell cant speak a single french. but im not gonna self identify as a french and declare myself as french.

but i have a problem if criticism manifested in a way thats racist.

how is " balik china tongsan la" a criticism? how is pitchforking and want them to be strip of their citizenship a criticism? even the cikgu puaka in his post already mention should remove their citizenship. all this just reeks of malay supremacist.