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> I am so sicked of those calling menghapuskan SRJK

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chemnz
post Jan 2 2020, 11:04 AM

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One nation. One system.

- make bahasa, mandarin, english compulsory (lets be honest, Bahasa is our national language. Mandarin and English has practical uses, so macha dun marah ya. y'all still get 2 public holidays, unlike our Sikh brethren)

- revamp agama islam and abolish pendidikan moral (fight me if you want, but agama islam classes has NOT proven to make muslims better and tolerant people. improve that shit. pendidikan moral otoh is an insult to nons. how to make the schedule you ask? i don't know.. like maybe add an EXTRA FUCKING HOUR for agama islam every few school days?)

- dont hire cikgu bodo & emo. just because u graduated from some uni or maktab perguruan, doesn't mean jackshit if you can't teach. and at least have a decent command of english. dont make the saying "those who can't do, teach" a reality.

- PJK is not a real slot, and PJK teacher is not a real job. well, not unless you actually teach real health and fitness. if not, just focus on after school co-curriculum sports instead. could actually worth something for people who can actually excel of have interest in certain sports

- Ali has 5 guli, Ah Chong has 10, and Ravi has 1. that's a problem. get that shit fixed.
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post Jan 2 2020, 12:32 PM

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QUOTE(blanket84 @ Jan 2 2020, 11:45 AM)
No point making mandarin compulsory. Here is malaysia, not china. And i don’t see any use of mandarin other than trying to understand my fellow malaysian who refuse to speak in language i understand. Even the regional manager of my company in shenzen office speaks English.
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I disagree. It's not really a matter of becos here is Malaysia yadayada argument. I don't buy that bullshit. It's practicality is beyond just a normal conversation. But you're lucky your manager can speak English. If he doesn't, doubt your chance is higher to get the job in the first place. Just think of it as a skill, rather than an impact to identity. Like shit man, you don't see people crying foul for not getting an engineering job when they're an art major, right? Equally, if you see it as a general skill, wouldn't that give you an edge over more jobs/businesses?

Plus you literally give zero chance for them to use the "you can't speak chinese" card.

Don't get me wrong. You orang Malaysia, you MUST know Bahasa too, first and foremost. Period.
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post Jan 2 2020, 02:29 PM

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QUOTE(blanket84 @ Jan 2 2020, 01:35 PM)
If the regional manager can’t speak english, I doubt he will get hired for his position. German company wants people who can’t speak english even in PRC. With mandarin only, you might get hire for low rank position. And i don’t report to him. I’m reporting to local HOD who is a Malaysian. And all regional engineers in Shanghai and Shenzhen can speak english. Even regional engineeer in Singapore from China also speak English. So, when do i need mandarin? I don’t. Like i said, i my company, i only need mandarin if i want to speak to Malaysian who refuse to speak english or BM only.

Making mandarin compulsory is just as stupid as making jawi compulsory. If you want to learn mandarin. Take language classes after school. You can opt to learn other languages too, like Japanese if you like j-drama or Korean if you like k-pop etc2.
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That's some comfortable job there.

But not every companies/businesses run like yours right? You work for a German company, figures. I get it. Judging from your comments, sounds like you haven't tried different work cultures. Go out a little. Work at local cinapek, SG, or PRC owned companies. These are the prevailing businesses in the region too. You'll see what I mean. Sure your boss can speak English, but the people you deal with most of the time to get shit done from other depts or colleagues aren't necessarily as fluent in English as you wish (try see working with PRC devs or equivalent others especially).

Look, I can respect your opinion, but only to the extent where it applies to your own workplace, because it is an MNC, so no doubt it will hire the staffs that can speak English. I've had the pleasure/displeasure of working with 2 MNCs, 1 SG, 1 SG+PRC, and 1 locally owned company. So yeah ma dude. Practicality for all. Don't be like those 'this is America, we speak English' pipu. It's just another language that has great uses, even more so in the future.
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post Jan 2 2020, 02:56 PM

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QUOTE(blanket84 @ Jan 2 2020, 02:51 PM)
I am not saying Mandarin is useless. Mandarin is good if you’re aspiring to work for PRC company. But other than that, mandarin has not much use.

I am just dismissing your idea of making Mandarin compulsory to malaysian, not dissing the languages.

I have worked in one cinapek company, two local public listed companies, one British company, one french company and one german company. None of them requires me to speak Mandarin. Heck, even those is cinapek company don’t speak mandarin, they all speak hokkien.
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More like mandarin with plenty of hokkien in it. Ok la bro. Guess we gotta agree to disagree on this then? Good thing I'm not a policy maker.
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post Jan 2 2020, 03:42 PM

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QUOTE(toda_erika_II @ Jan 2 2020, 03:17 PM)
Careful in the thinking up of the solution.
First of all, wealth is not a fixed pie. It can grow. Because Ali, Ah Chong and Ravi doesn't just circulate the 16 guli among 3 of them only. They can trade with other kids.

3 of them have to get guli in the guli battle. All of them have to give banker some guli if they posses more than certain amount of guli. Bankers guli are shared for all their benefits. So how to fix this inequality problem? Use the 70's method, limit Ah Chong's guli battle and ask Ravi to go, without actually teaching him skills. Bankers will provide him guli, mostly provided by Ah Chong. Will this solve the problem? Or will it make the banker less guli?
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hehe. nice catch there.
don't know. if i know also, i can't fix it.

QUOTE(blanket84 @ Jan 2 2020, 03:27 PM)
Lol. Happened to colleague of mine also, but from other department, kononnya want to speak mandarin to PRC people when he came down to Malaysia, but the Guangzhou born manager replied to him in English laugh.gif

I guess you colleague mandarin level is rempit level. Like most people here who speaks primarily BM but at rempit level, ask them to write official report/letter/documents in BM, grammar and vocabs all over the place.
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Might I add. I didn't mean learn rojak Mandarin. sweat.gif sweat.gif
I remember a PRC Grab passenger bitch to me in English, saying locals here Mandarin like shit cos rojak lots of hokkien, cantonese, with a dose of local accent.

This post has been edited by chemnz: Jan 2 2020, 03:45 PM
chemnz
post Jan 2 2020, 04:52 PM

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QUOTE(blanket84 @ Jan 2 2020, 03:59 PM)
So i guess learning mandarin in SJK is overrated for chinese speaking people. Only good for non-chinese.
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Hahahah.. I guess?
See how Malays get so cancerous with Bahasa in talking/writing, I think the same can be said in SJK too.


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