Wait so did you guys break up or not

We did....

Why you get in hospital?

be patience and give some hope to each other. after following this chat for quite some time,i believe you can win her back. just be yourself and do what u need to do for now and have some faith. time will prove that you are worthwhile to her

well, time is a matter of perspective. when you are down in the gutter and keep getting kicked on, even 1 minute can feel like eternity.

but dont say till like that. we are all humans. like i say, what i can do, you can do it too!

just keep fighting the good fight! only you yourself know what is the good fight. nobody else can help you fight it.

most importantly is to keep yourself positive and persevere through it all.

never give up, dont ever give up.

Thanks bro. Really happy to hear this. Need this optimism in my life right now. Thank you.

Thanks thanks thanks. Yes I'll fight for her. I must get out from this hole.

Last night conversation with this girl makes me feel I really wanna fight for her. I told myself she can still talk to me nicely. Things could be worse. I must let this fuel my fight and press on for her.

Today was hard. Yesterday night she called me to continue on our previous conversation. She pointed out the things I did in the relationship that hurt her. I felt like she remembered all the fights that we had in the relationship until I asked how come she remembered so cleary the bad ones instead of the good ones. She told me she remembered both but bad ones hurt cause she's on the receiving end. I told her when we fight, we both had our differences which we need to defend. That's why we fight but every night I soften down, went to hug her, apologize and told her our differences does not matter much. It's just during the heat of the moment I may not be able to do it. That's just me as I need time to process my emotions as well.

But yeah, she told me this is the last time she wanted to talk about the our relationship with me. She wants to move on and doesnt wanna harbour toxic and angry thoughts as she doesnt feel well too. She said for the time being, maybe the space and distance is good for us as when we meet and talk this period, our conversation will only lead us towards the past. I told her okay. I will wait for her to be ready and I will continue to pray for her.

This morning I called her because I notice her car at home when I drove past. She was supposed to be in church at the time so I called her to just see if she was sick or what. Turned out she was having a bad day. She told me she doesnt felt doing anything, she is not sick or anything. I asked her if she's doing any activities later. She replied but can tell she has that negative tone in her. After we said goodbye, she sent me an angry message. It really hurts me but i think she was just venting out and i just have to live with it.

Yeah today was hard to get through but I just have to hang on.

If you don't mind me asking, is she in general a sensitive person? Does she always remember all the not so good stuff? If everytime you talk to her and all she can remember are the bad stuff.. Then it's kinda difficult for you.

She's very very sensitive. Like a lot of times I thought I'm doing well yet she can still feel hurt from my actions.

She has low self esteem as well. I guess all stems from her losing her dad in a young age and unhappy memories growing up.

I see.. Seems to me her other half would need to be very sensitive to her feelings. Not an easy feat. And I suppose to win her back you need to be overwhelmingly positive and very persistent similar to Twenty-fifth Baam.

You're going to have to be able to handle her constant anger and rejection along the way to your goal.

Ok ma. At least still gor channel. Better than complete silent and cut off. Positive sign.

Bro, can you define what you mean by overly positive? Does it mean to be able to move forward from this break up and be positive we will get back? Like how am I gonna show her the positiveness?

Yeah. It was hard but it could be worse.

Yesterday was tough so I shut myself off and just spend time on myself grieving and letting all my emotions out. It was a long day until at night I had bad headache but I did get enough sleep.

At night she sent me another text saying "This is why distance is needed. And as time passes things will fall into place, eventually."

I guess she was upset by herself sending angry message. Later she replied "What I mean was we need distance to move on. We need spaces to focus back ourselves. That's all I'm trying to say. I dont want to hurt myself with anger or any other negative emotions."

Her last reply: May God shape you to be the person He made you to be.

I mean this is such a bitter sweet message. Like she thinks about me but at the same time sound like a goodbye.

I miss her so so much.

Well in my message by positive I meant like.. Not appearing sad or worried in front of her I guess. Although being positive in front of her may help win her back, but it's not healthy for you in the long run because it might become the case of you wearing a 'mask' in front of her. Unless it's a shift of mindset like what Twenty-Fifth Baam shared with us before.

It's good for you to grieve and let your emotions out. Though I wonder does she do the same to let her emotions out? I tend to think bottled feelings & emotions will cause ppl to accidentally lash out at others, like what just happened to you.

Actually she did. One of her church mentor reached out to me and told me she is praying for me. Ask me to be well.

I apologize to her, asked her why pray for me since I hurt her friend. I was really just breaking down la when she reached out to me. She told me she knows I'm suffering but my ex is in also not having it easy. Maybe she thought I think it was easy for her. She told me she called her and cried too.

So yeah, dont think she is bottling it in.

I see.. That's good to know. Just that seems like she still have somethings she couldn't get over with, hence her angry message to you yesterday. Just wondering.

So.. Any plans now moving forward?

I dont know should I keep in touch with her like once a week or go no contact for a month.

If I call her once a week, good thing is we keep communication open but at the same time giving her the space. Maybe call her just to catch up and know what each other has been doing without talking about the past.

Go no contact for one month is like really giving her the space and distance she need but just afraid without communication, what would happen?