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post Feb 10 2020, 09:30 AM

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QUOTE(asrin @ Feb 10 2020, 09:19 AM)
Does this splitting the cable works?..and the quality of those two tv is same?..
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For this case, nope.... both TV gets different signal strength, most likely due to "hobby grade splicing": https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?act=findpost&pid=94974330

There's a proper splitter for splitting to 2 TV : https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?act=findpost&pid=94982628

For my case, I've decided to start fresh for the TV that's encountering the problem where it would say "no signal" randomly

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post Feb 10 2020, 11:23 AM

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What is the problems if I switch on the MYTV DVB S2 decoder, it showed the Freeview welcome page and then the green light blinking and it turn off automatically? Press 'ON' from the remote control, it went back on but show 'nothing' on the screen. I did switch off the power of the decoder and switch it back on still facing same faulty occured. Anyone have any idea? I met 3 cases in my kampung with same 'disease' doh.gif

I have extra mytv DVBS2 decoder switched it and it did got signal, but it need to be activated.. How to activate it? I have let it run more than 24hrs still havent activate. I am a guy willing to do DIY before calling the technician.
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post Feb 10 2020, 01:39 PM

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QUOTE(asrin @ Feb 10 2020, 09:19 AM)
Does this splitting the cable works?..and the quality of those two tv is same?..
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If you split the cable like this, confirm will cause signal loss due to cable attenuation.
You can't "split then merge" or "cut then tape" with another cable as if like joining an electrical wiring.
Doing so, will only cause unnecessarily signal reduction/degradation for nothing, or even short circuit if it isn't wire properly.

You need to use proper tool such as F connector joiner, or RG6 cable joiner as below:
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It won't cause signal loss like what yongtjunkit's rented room's owner did.

You might hear some installers/technician says, RG6 cable or F connectors are only used for Astro. Tell them, that's an outdated info.
You can use this F-Type Female to PAL Male Adapter shown below, to connect it to your TV or digital TV box.
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These adapters are very very very cheap only, won't cost you a fortune for that, and you can get it at the hardware shops, or most Astro/antenna installers are likely to have that too. Otherwise, you can get it on Lazada or Shopee.
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post Feb 10 2020, 01:49 PM

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QUOTE(pksvince @ Feb 10 2020, 11:23 AM)
Hi all,

What is the problems if I switch on the MYTV DVB S2 decoder, it showed the Freeview welcome page and then the green light blinking and it turn off automatically? Press 'ON' from the remote control, it went back on but show 'nothing' on the screen. I did switch off the power of the decoder and switch it back on still facing same faulty occured. Anyone have any idea? I met 3 cases in my kampung with same 'disease' doh.gif

I have extra mytv DVBS2 decoder switched it and it did got signal, but it need to be activated.. How to activate it? I have let it run more than 24hrs still havent activate. I am a guy willing to do DIY before calling the technician.
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I switch on the MYTV DVB S2 decoder, it showed the Freeview welcome page and then the green light blinking and it turn off automatically? Press 'ON' from the remote control, it went back on but show 'nothing' on the screen. I did switch off the power of the decoder and switch it back on still facing same faulty occured.
Try unplug all cables from your MYTV hybrid box, except power adapter and HDMI/RCA cable, and see if issue persists.
If issue still persists, then it's likely that there's an issue with the software?
If issue no longer persists, then I suspect is due to short circuit on the wiring to your antenna/satellite dish or something.

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I have extra mytv DVBS2 decoder switched it and it did got signal, but it need to be activated.. How to activate it? I have let it run more than 24hrs still havent activate. I am a guy willing to do DIY before calling the technician.
Where did you get the MYTV hybrid box?
You get it for free from MYTV because of lower income B40 group? If yes, you got to call MYTV customer service, tell them the box's serial number for them to activate it.
If you buy it from somewhere/some installers, contact that installer or some other authorised installers to help you activate it.

Activation wise is free, no charges.

Btw, what's the error code shown? Take pic see..
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post Feb 10 2020, 02:58 PM

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The upcoming digital TV frequency restacking exercise will be done in selected Northern and Southern regions of Peninsular Malaysia as follows:
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Source: https://www.facebook.com/BESTVRTM/videos/84...849679542184266
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Source: https://www.facebook.com/BESTVRTM/videos/2707939055957530/

The only affected frequency are Mux 2, which mostly consists of RTM channels (TV1, TV2, RTM Sports,...).
Mux 1 channels (TV3, 8TV, Go Shop,...) are not affected, hence no change in frequency.

DateTransmitterAffected regions/statesCurrent Freq.New Freq.
18 Feb 2020Bukit TinggiEastern Johor722MHz CH52562MHz CH32
18 Feb 2020Gunung JeraiNorthern and Southern Perak & parts of Kedah698MHz CH49650MHz CH43
20 Feb 2020Gunung LedangCentral and Northern Johor, Melacca & Negeri Sembilan722MHz CH52562MHz CH32
20 Feb 2020Seberang JayaEntire Seberang Jaya (Penang Island)698MHz CH49650MHz CH43
21 Feb 2020Penang U4Georgetown, Bayan Lepas & Seberang Prai698MHz CH49650MHz CH43
25 Feb 2020Bukit TampinParts of Negeri Sembilan & Melacca722MHz CH52562MHz CH32
25 Feb 2020Bukit LarutNorthern Perak and Southern Penang698MHz CH49650MHz CH43
27 Feb 2020Gunung KledangCentral, Eastern and Northern Perak698MHz CH49650MHz CH43
Time: 1.00 am - 6.00 am

The reason behind the nationwide frequency restacking exercise is to vacate frequencies that are adjacent to the 700MHz band, which will be used for 4G/5G mobile services soon (Band 28 / n28).

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post Feb 10 2020, 04:46 PM

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QUOTE(joshhd @ Feb 10 2020, 01:49 PM)
Try unplug all cables from your MYTV hybrid box, except power adapter and HDMI/RCA cable, and see if issue persists.
If issue still persists, then it's likely that there's an issue with the software?
If issue no longer persists, then I suspect is due to short circuit on the wiring to your antenna/satellite dish or something.


Where did you get the MYTV hybrid box?
You get it for free from MYTV because of lower income B40 group? If yes, you got to call MYTV customer service, tell them the box's serial number for them to activate it.
If you buy it from somewhere/some installers, contact that installer or some other authorised installers to help you activate it.

Activation wise is free, no charges. 



Btw, what's the error code shown? Take pic see..



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If is shortcircuit, can it be repaired? as I noticed that F plug was not in good shape. I have replace the F plug with new one.

Just my thought, is it possible being block by MYTV as all of them been added JCSAT4B TP?

Yes, the decoder is free from the B40 group. I will take a photo of the serial no try and call the customer service as that area have no cellphone coverage, hope the verification IC is not necessary as the unit have been mixed up. Thanks for the tips.

Sorry I didnt take any picture, is E17.

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QUOTE(pksvince @ Feb 10 2020, 04:46 PM)
If is shortcircuit, can it be repaired? as I noticed that F plug was not in good shape. I have replace the F plug with new one.

Just my thought, is it possible being block by MYTV as all of them been added JCSAT4B TP?

Yes, the decoder is free from the B40 group. I will take a photo of the serial no try and call the customer service as that area have no cellphone coverage, hope the verification IC is not necessary as the unit have been mixed up. Thanks for the tips.

Sorry I didnt take any picture, is E17.
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Try cut off the cable then re-terminate the cable. If the F connector is not in good shape, terminate it with a new F connector.

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Just my thought, is it possible being block by MYTV as all of them been added JCSAT4B TP?
Not relevant. it is officially confirmed that MYTV uses Asiasat 9 at 122°E, not JCSAT 4B.

If it's free from the B40 one, contact MYTV and tell them the serial number so that they can activate it for you.
No mobile phone coverage? Which area and state is it?
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QUOTE(joshhd @ Feb 10 2020, 03:35 AM)
Does your antenna has booster function? Take pic of your antenna see...

On your MYTV/digital TV box, go Menu>Channel Search there...
There's a settings somewhere there that says Antenna Power option, is it selects as ON? Try turn it OFF and see if problem persists.
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As it mention using indoor ON, so i ON antenna power




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post Feb 11 2020, 01:34 AM

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QUOTE(PJng @ Feb 10 2020, 11:27 PM)
As it mention using indoor ON, so i ON antenna power
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That antenna is a passive antenna. On your MYTV box, change the Antenna Power setting to Off.

Set the Antenna Power to "On" only when you're using antenna that uses external power source to work (e.g. active antenna).

What is your area and state? Did you try other antennas? If still the same and doesn't have strong signal, maybe consider a outdoor antenna.
Small and short type should be enough, depending on your area.
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QUOTE(joshhd @ Feb 10 2020, 06:29 PM)
Try cut off the cable then re-terminate the cable. If the F connector is not in good shape, terminate it with a new F connector.

Not relevant. it is officially confirmed that MYTV uses Asiasat 9 at 122°E, not JCSAT 4B.

If it's free from the B40 one, contact MYTV and tell them the serial number so that they can activate it for you.
No mobile phone coverage? Which area and state is it?
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Yes, just adjust in between 122°E and 124°E. Asiasat 9 very strong in 1st place. Then add tp for the JCSAT 4B, download channel



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I'm from Sabah. The kampung I stayed during weekend is at Kampung Tambatuon, Kota Belud. Some houses have mobile coverage, some dont as in valley.
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https://themalaysianreserve.com/2020/02/07/...livery-by-2022/

If this can improve current quality of FTA (quantity) channels, i say surely it's doable.

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QUOTE(pksvince @ Feb 10 2020, 04:46 PM)
If is shortcircuit, can it be repaired? as I noticed that F plug was not in good shape. I have replace the F plug with new one.

Just my thought, is it possible being block by MYTV as all of them been added JCSAT4B TP?

Yes, the decoder is free from the B40 group. I will take a photo of the serial no try and call the customer service as that area have no cellphone coverage, hope the verification IC is not necessary as the unit have been mixed up. Thanks for the tips.

Sorry I didnt take any picture, is E17.
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I got a somewhat "reliable info" from a Facebook post.
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Original post is in Malay language. Here's the translated and amended version:

Legend:
DTT / T2 = digital terrestrial television (using UHF antenna to receive digital TV channels)
DTH / S2 / MYTV DTH = direct-to-home (watching MYTV channels using a satellite dish instead of using UHF TV antenna).
MYTV DTH not activated = The MYTV DTH account tied to the MYTV combo box are not activated, therefore unable to watch MYTV channels via satellite, hence connecting to a UHF antenna is the only option.

STB = set-top-box, or simply "box" in short, refers to the equipment or receiver used to access to DTT or DTH TV channels from MYTV, or mistakenly known as "decoder" by many people.

Take a closer look at the difference between the MYTV Combo box shown on the left and right of this picture.

The MYTV Combo T2/S2 box shown on the left are the ones received by selected BSH/B40 eligible recipients only, while the one on the right is recipients who reside within DTT coverage area only, where its MYTV DTH account is not activated.

You'll see almost no difference because indeed there is no difference. -.-

How to activate after the installation:
i) AUTHORISED INSTALLERS will use MYTV app on their respective smartphones to activate it or call MYTV CALL CENTRE MYTV at 038313**** and provide the following information - LEADER IC, CUSTOMER IC and STB SERIAL NUMBER. It will be activated instantly and you'll be able to watch MYTV DTH channels instantly upon successful activation (latest by 30 seconds, based on post's author's experience).

ii) The agent at MYTV CALL CENTRE shall REFRESH the BOX according to CUSTOMER IC and STB SERIAL NUMBER provided by AUTHORISED INSTALLER, hence you shall be able to watch MYTV DTH channels instantly.

iii) UN-AUTHORISED/UNREGISTERED INSTALLERS or CUSTOMER shall call MYTV HELPLINE 130080MYTV, 1300806988 to activate, usually the MYTV CUSTOMER SERVICE would take 4 hours or more to activate it. All these boxes have been pre-activated during the DISTRIBUTION & DROPBOX process by 4 MASTER INSTALLER COMPANIES, NIKOFLORA/GANIART/TRIDIMAS/DIHNAR.

iv) UN-AUTHORISED/UNREGISTERED INSTALLERS, shall advise CUSTOMER to leave the BOX powered on for 4 hours and above to be successfully activated.
There are cases where:
- the account activates itself after being in STANDBY MODE showing E-017 message for a long time
- the account won't even activate itself even days to weeks of waiting

When MYTV DTH is not activated on a MYTV Combo box as shown on the right (refer pic), you could assume that the particular BOX is meant for recipients resides within DTT coverage only, hence the MYTV DTH account is not being activated.

Officially: Shall the recipient that resides within DTT coverage insists on activating the MYTV DTH account, it'd only be possible if recipient would move out to areas that is not within DTT coverage, and MUST CONTACT MYTV to inform them in advance to proceed with the activation.

Unofficially: Some authorised installers might be able to help you to activate the MYTV DTH account, regardless if you reside within DTT coverage or not.

Hope this info helps you all.

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The author also added further that, MYTV combo box can be used to receive TV channels from any foreign satellites (including those Thailand/Indonesia free-to-air channels). However according to the S.O.P, MYTV box are meant for receiving MYTV channels only.

In the case where all MYTV boxes are undergoing software OTA upgrade, especially the ones that left on standby mode, only the transponder (11490MHz, Vertical polarisation, symbol rate 45000) or only digital TV channels from MYTV will remains after the upgrade is completed, while other non-MYTV channels will be removed automatically.

It is possible that if they found out that the user are receiving satellite TV channels from other satellite, the warranty may void, and you shall bear the responsibility in the case where your MYTV combo box went faulty. So do proceed with caution.

Also, similar like Njoi, if the MYTV combo box are not powered on for a long time, the MYTV DTH account would get deactivated, hence you'll need to contact MYTV to reactivate the DTH account to continue watching via satellite. DTT viewers are not affected.

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In my opinion, if you want to receive/watch non-MYTV channels especially from other satellites, I would advise you to use other universal satellite TV receivers instead of using MYTV combo box just for the sake of convenience. Yes I know it is possible, but then, those universal satellite TV receivers out there could perform better and have more features than MYTV combo box. But, it's your decision anyway. Do it at your own risk. Otherwise, be an innocent MYTV box user and watch Malaysian digital TV channels.

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Retune for channel 43. Channel 49 is not avaialbe anymore in klang valley i assumed
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QUOTE(razuryza @ Feb 13 2020, 06:54 AM)
Retune for channel 43. Channel 49 is not avaialbe anymore in klang valley i assumed
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Well the frequency retuning was announced quite some while ago
QUOTE(joshhd @ Feb 8 2020, 01:47 AM)
MYFREEVIEW DIGITAL TV BROADCAST TO UNDERGO FREQUENCY RESTACKING

Take note Klang Valley viewers...
You might experience sudden loss of signal from Mux 2 channels, which almost all are RTM channels like TV1, TV2, RTM Sports, etc.
Frequency restacking exercise shall commence on 11 Feb 2020 and 13 Feb 2020.

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https://www.mytvbroadcasting.my/images/mytv...ualaLumpur).pdf

If you're using MYTV box, or IDTV (TV with built in DVB-T2 digital TV tuner) that supports auto channel update, it shouldn't be a thing to worry about, since it will auto update the frequency changes by itself, so u don't need to do anything.
Otherwise, just perform auto scan/search and you shall be able to retrieve the channels again, or manual search, enter the Channel 43 (650MHz).

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QUOTE(razuryza @ Feb 13 2020, 06:54 AM)
Retune for channel 43. Channel 49 is not avaialbe anymore in klang valley i assumed
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Yes.

698MHz is dead in Klang Valley area. Now it's on 650MHz.

Couldn't receive RTM channels? Perform manual or auto scan now.
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As expected, the video bitrate still remain unchanged even after today's frequency restacking exercise.
Well, for a company like MYTV Broadcasting, I don't expect them to increase the video bitrate soon anyway.

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I hope RTM would negotiate with MYTV to increase the video bitrate, cuz 2.5Mbps for a Full HD channel is seriously too low, and the compression artifacts will become obvious especially when there's a fast moving scenes. I guess because if see it from far, picture quality looks "sharp", but when there's a fast moving scenes, pixelation (lots of small boxes) appear on image due to compression artifacts of the use of video bitrate that is too low.

And if you think this is signal issue, that means you are not a technical person. dry.gif
Yes, I'm referring to those MYTV customer service agents. dry.gif dry.gif dry.gif
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QUOTE(joshhd @ Feb 13 2020, 04:10 PM)
As expected, the video bitrate still remain unchanged even after today's frequency restacking exercise.
Well, for a company like MYTV Broadcasting, I don't expect them to increase the video bitrate soon anyway.

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I hope RTM would negotiate with MYTV to increase the video bitrate, cuz 2.5Mbps for a Full HD channel is seriously too low, and the compression artifacts will become obvious especially when there's a fast moving scenes. I guess because if see it from far, picture quality looks "sharp", but when there's a fast moving scenes, pixelation (lots of small boxes) appear on image due to compression artifacts of the use of video bitrate that is too low.

And if you think this is signal issue, that means you are not a technical person.  dry.gif
Yes, I'm referring to those MYTV customer service agents.  dry.gif  dry.gif  dry.gif
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I see. hmm.gif They try'na match the quality same as the MyKlik desktop one. laugh.gif

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I wonder, is there anyone here, would experience issue like, previously able to receive Mux 2 (698MHz), but can't receive the new 650MHz frequency even after perform auto/manual scan?
Or, previous 698MHz signal is stronger but 650MHz is weaker or something?

Not sure if this would happen to some people theoretically, so just wanna ask you guys here.
Do share your experience with the 650Mhz reception, like does it have better signal readings or something..
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QUOTE(Qash-M @ Feb 13 2020, 05:19 PM)
I see. hmm.gif They try'na match the quality same as the MyKlik desktop one. laugh.gif
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However, it's worth noting that the audio bitrate only for RTM channels are 48kbps HE-AAC v2, while the rest of the channels are still 32kbps HE-AAC v2.
Yea, an improved audio quality, but reduced video quality compared to other channels.

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