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AV_2018
post Feb 18 2020, 03:00 PM

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QUOTE(YoungMan @ Feb 18 2020, 01:45 PM)
How do you guys properly determine the direction to point the antenna? I can't seem to get good signal in Kuching especially for Media Prima channel. Signal seems to be about 50% but sometimes fluctuate. Using MYTV decoder and outdoor 12E antenna which recently bought.
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Kuching.... I just point to Gunung Serapi which is West direction here then swivel the antenna left/right while monitoring the signal. The antenna is then fixed when the max signal posible is obtained.
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post Feb 19 2020, 05:55 AM

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QUOTE(joshhd @ Feb 18 2020, 12:59 AM)
EPG data that provide information on episode and seasons numbers, is this is even a common practice by RTM and Media Prima anyway?
I don't think so. Particularly Media Prima, what matters them most is CJ Wow Shop more than airing TV shows to viewers.
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I already know EPG doesn't provide enough information guide but here I am asking whether I can get extra information guide beside relying on EPG.
Newspaper , website and etc.
Mostly wanted to know the episode listed.
Well aware of CJ programs which really too much allowing it to enter the slot.Why not just give 2-3 extra channel for them rather having it to slot into the main channel.I wonder how much CJ invest into mediaprime.Now even GO shop invade in. sweat.gif
QUOTE(AV_2018 @ Feb 18 2020, 11:27 AM)
Can try use the EPG via HbbTV but I'm not sure if it has the info you are looking for. What I know is the EPG via HbbTV is usually complete unlike the one transmitted via DVB-T2 that's sometimes missing for some channels.
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I don't think build in lcd TV have HbbTV support.Maybe MYTV box may have this support. Right now , I am just looking for a episode tvguide on google search.
Until now , I don't see anyone know how to access those tvguide information.
Did you have support on HbbTV ? any extra information on certain series episodes number shows up ? rtm or mediaprime ?
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post Feb 19 2020, 08:39 AM

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QUOTE(Maxieos @ Feb 19 2020, 05:55 AM)
I already know EPG doesn't provide enough information guide but here I am asking whether I can get extra information guide beside relying on EPG.
Newspaper , website and etc.
Mostly wanted to know the episode listed.
Well aware of CJ programs which really too much allowing it to enter the slot.Why not just give 2-3 extra channe[U]l for them rather having it to slot into the main channel.I wonder how much CJ invest into mediaprime.Now even GO shop invade in. sweat.gif
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There's already 2 CJ wow shop channel already, if not mistaken its ch 104 and ch 106
QUOTE(Maxieos @ Feb 19 2020, 05:55 AM)
I don't think build in lcd TV have HbbTV support.Maybe MYTV box may have this support. Right now , I am just looking for a episode tvguide on google search.
Until now , I don't see anyone know how to access those tvguide information.
Did you have support on HbbTV ? any extra information on certain series episodes number shows up ? rtm or mediaprime ?
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Not all TV has support for HBB TV but there's some out there, I do know that LG smart TV has support for it (at least for this model ), MYTV advance decoder has support for HBB TV
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post Feb 19 2020, 08:42 AM

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QUOTE(Maxieos @ Feb 19 2020, 05:55 AM)
I already know EPG doesn't provide enough information guide but here I am asking whether I can get extra information guide beside relying on EPG.
Newspaper , website and etc.
Mostly wanted to know the episode listed.
Well aware of CJ programs which really too much allowing it to enter the slot.Why not just give 2-3 extra channel for them rather having it to slot into the main channel.I wonder how much CJ invest into mediaprime.Now even GO shop invade in. sweat.gif

I don't think build in lcd TV have HbbTV support.Maybe MYTV box may have this support. Right now , I am just looking for a episode tvguide on google search.
Until now , I don't see anyone know how to access those tvguide information.
Did you have support on HbbTV ? any extra information on certain series episodes number shows up ? rtm or mediaprime ?
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LG TV do support HbbTV but Malaysia implementation is not good, sometimes information missing.

Singapore is well supported and never happen missing info.

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post Feb 19 2020, 01:14 PM

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QUOTE(Maxieos @ Feb 19 2020, 05:55 AM)
I don't think build in lcd TV have HbbTV support.Maybe MYTV box may have this support. Right now , I am just looking for a episode tvguide on google search.
Until now , I don't see anyone know how to access those tvguide information.
Did you have support on HbbTV ? any extra information on certain series episodes number shows up ? rtm or mediaprime ?
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Only Mediaprima has episode numbers if that's what you're looking for...
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This is on a Sony Bravia Android TV.
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post Feb 19 2020, 01:26 PM

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I pointing to KL tower, but since the restacking freq 43 cannot be reach anymore. 45 ok.
Anybody in Klang Valley able to get the new 43?
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post Feb 19 2020, 01:52 PM

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QUOTE(hjack @ Feb 19 2020, 01:26 PM)
I pointing to KL tower, but since the restacking freq 43 cannot be reach anymore. 45 ok.
Anybody in Klang Valley able to get the new 43?
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Show us a pic of your antenna.

And, go to Manual Search, enter Channel 43 or 650000KHz (650MHz).
Once done (before press Search/Scan), readjust/reposition/relocate your antenna until you get the highest signal readings possible for both Strength and Quality.
Most importantly, the Quality reading should be 100% and not fluctuating.

Do keep us updated with your troubleshooting steps.
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post Feb 19 2020, 02:12 PM

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QUOTE(AV_2018 @ Feb 18 2020, 04:00 PM)
Kuching.... I just point to Gunung Serapi which is West direction here then swivel the antenna left/right while monitoring the signal. The antenna is then fixed when the max signal posible is obtained.
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I might try that tonight. Thought previously someone said need to use certain app to key in your house address and then find the pointer to gunung serapi.

QUOTE(yongtjunkit @ Feb 19 2020, 09:39 AM)
There's already 2 CJ wow shop channel already, if not mistaken its ch 104 and ch 106

Not all TV has support for HBB TV but there's some out there, I do know that LG smart TV has support for it (at least for this model ), MYTV advance decoder has support for HBB TV
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How to differentiate between the advance decoder and the normal one? Mine have WiFi in settings, but never connect it to my home WiFi. Is that consider MYTV advance?
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QUOTE(YoungMan @ Feb 19 2020, 02:12 PM)
I might try that tonight. Thought previously someone said need to use certain app to key in your house address and then find the pointer to gunung serapi.
How to differentiate between the advance decoder and the normal one? Mine have WiFi in settings, but never connect it to my home WiFi. Is that consider MYTV advance?
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MYTV advance box
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MYTV basic box
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If both of these isn't your box then you are using a 3rd party box, not MYTV box

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post Feb 19 2020, 02:27 PM

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QUOTE(YoungMan @ Feb 19 2020, 02:12 PM)
I might try that tonight. Thought previously someone said need to use certain app to key in your house address and then find the pointer to gunung serapi.
How to differentiate between the advance decoder and the normal one? Mine have WiFi in settings, but never connect it to my home WiFi. Is that consider MYTV advance?
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No need app. App might not be accurate also. Best to point in direction that gives you best signal for your location and the only way to do that is to monitor the signal received by the antenna while shifting its direction.

MYTV Advance has Ethernet port and smart card slot but no Wi-Fi.

This post has been edited by AV_2018: Feb 19 2020, 02:28 PM
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post Feb 19 2020, 09:06 PM

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QUOTE(yongtjunkit @ Feb 19 2020, 08:39 AM)
There's already 2 CJ wow shop channel already, if not mistaken its ch 104 and ch 106

Not all TV has support for HBB TV but there's some out there, I do know that LG smart TV has support for it (at least for this model ), MYTV advance decoder has support for HBB TV
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Using build in DVB-T2 which is not LG tv or any other smart tv type.IF it really only LG smart tv certain model , the only choice is to get MYTV.
Actually what is the background of CJ which can take all the prime slot like even now 8:30 to 10:30pm CJ WOW SHOP (LIVE) - 2ND BATCH - Ep 760 sweat.gif
QUOTE(Andrewtst @ Feb 19 2020, 08:42 AM)
LG TV do support HbbTV but Malaysia implementation is not good, sometimes information missing.

Singapore is well supported and never happen missing info.
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Just have to wait until our implantation improve , in old days , newspaper is the only source and best since it's free.
QUOTE(AV_2018 @ Feb 19 2020, 01:14 PM)
Only Mediaprima has episode numbers if that's what you're looking for...
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This is on a Sony Bravia Android TV.
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Thanks notworthy.gif this is what I am wanted to find out since epg doesn't list the episode. rclxm9.gif .
I didn't know https://www.tonton.com.my/liveChannel show all the episode list .Thanks again.
Does the tonton able to track back older episode like last month ? Just asking for extra since do no not need to count back the date correspond to the episode.

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post Feb 20 2020, 09:11 AM

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QUOTE(hjack @ Feb 19 2020, 01:26 PM)
I pointing to KL tower, but since the restacking freq 43 cannot be reach anymore. 45 ok.
Anybody in Klang Valley able to get the new 43?
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Me too, unable to get channel 43, wonder is the new frequency problem or my condo building centralize antenna unable to get.

Or most of the people not watching RTM... biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Maxieos @ Feb 19 2020, 09:06 PM)
Actually what is the background of CJ which can take all the prime slot like even now 8:30 to 10:30pm CJ WOW SHOP (LIVE) - 2ND BATCH - Ep 760 sweat.gif

Thanks notworthy.gif this is what I am wanted to find out since epg doesn't list the episode. rclxm9.gif .
I didn't know https://www.tonton.com.my/liveChannel show all the episode list .Thanks again.
Does the tonton able to track back older episode like last month ? Just asking for extra since do no not need to count back the date correspond to the episode.
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CJ is a big Korean company which consists of many sub incuding CJ E&M, tvN, Mnet etc. involved in music, movies, tv, cinema, sales of products and probably more.

I access that Tonton page via HbbTV, not via the url.
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QUOTE(joshhd @ Feb 19 2020, 01:52 PM)
Show us a pic of your antenna.

And, go to Manual Search, enter Channel 43 or 650000KHz (650MHz).
Once done (before press Search/Scan), readjust/reposition/relocate your antenna until you get the highest signal readings possible for both Strength and Quality.
Most importantly, the Quality reading should be 100% and not fluctuating.

Do keep us updated with your troubleshooting steps.
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Used the spare Mytv decoder to test signal strength, it was around 30, no wonder Ch 43 couldn't get. Luckily my outdoor antenna is easily accessible, turn a bit to get 50+ strength, both 43 and 45 can get now.

Thanks for the pointer biggrin.gif
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post Feb 20 2020, 03:53 PM

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QUOTE(hjack @ Feb 20 2020, 02:42 PM)
Used the spare Mytv decoder to test signal strength, it was around 30, no wonder Ch 43 couldn't get. Luckily my outdoor antenna is easily accessible, turn a bit to get 50+ strength, both 43 and 45 can get now.

Thanks for the pointer biggrin.gif
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Glad to hear that. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(AV_2018 @ Feb 20 2020, 10:55 AM)
CJ is a big Korean company which consists of many sub incuding CJ E&M, tvN, Mnet etc. involved in music, movies, tv, cinema, sales of products and probably more.

I access that Tonton page via HbbTV, not via the url.
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Even the CJ is a big korean company , doesn't mean allow them to advertise in a golden slot time 8:30pm after news.They get 2 extra channel alone already.
I wonder , how much $ they invest for those time slot and extra own channel.
Will it be the reason mediaprime never intended to have HD channel since CJ will bear the cost of all data transmitted. CJ invest on mediaprime shareholder % ?

I access tonton.com.my and it show the episode list which really convenient.Now I know which episode some long run korea tvshow running man or some other series episode. smile.gif
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QUOTE(Maxieos @ Feb 20 2020, 08:31 PM)
Even the CJ is a big korean company , doesn't mean allow them to advertise in a golden slot time 8:30pm after news.They get 2 extra channel alone already.
I wonder , how much $ they invest for those time slot and extra own channel.
Will it be the reason mediaprime never intended to have HD channel since CJ will bear the cost of all data transmitted. CJ invest on mediaprime shareholder % ?

I access tonton.com.my and it show the episode list which really convenient.Now I know which episode some long run korea tvshow running man or some other series episode. smile.gif
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Looks like this CJ Wow Shop is a local company that is a joint venture of Mediaprima and CJ.

EDIT: MP CJ ENM SDN. BHD. (201601005538 (1176464-X)) is the company if anyone wants to look into it.

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post Feb 21 2020, 12:40 AM

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QUOTE(Maxieos @ Feb 20 2020, 08:31 PM)
Even the CJ is a big korean company , doesn't mean allow them to advertise in a golden slot time 8:30pm after news.They get 2 extra channel alone already.
I wonder , how much $ they invest for those time slot and extra own channel.
Will it be the reason mediaprime never intended to have HD channel since CJ will bear the cost of all data transmitted. CJ invest on mediaprime shareholder % ?

I access tonton.com.my and it show the episode list which really convenient.Now I know which episode some long run korea tvshow running man or some other series episode. smile.gif
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It doesn't matter.
Media Prima would do anything for their company's survival, even sacrificing prime time slots for shopping. CJ O Shopping, or whatever it is, they can just partner with anyone, as long it brings profit to Media Prima.
No doubt that CJ Wow Shop does make profit to Media Prima, so there's no signs of stopping or slowing down at all. After all, Media Prima suffers a lot of money loss for many years already. You can go and Google those news.

Media Prima understands consumer's behaviour well enough; viewers today don't watch much TV; viewership are not as high as those days; advertising revenue aren't that promising anymore
So since viewers don't bother to watch much Media Prima channels (unless those hardcore rural viewers/FTA TV fans), they might as well turn it into more and more TV shopping content and channels to gain profit.
Of course, they would tell you "We want to give the best offers and deals to our viewers, to improve the overall well-being and quality of life..." all those things, but they just want you to spend money, that's all.
That is how free-to-air station works. Rely on advertising to survive.

My suggestion? Don't rely too much on Media Prima channels. Those good old days are gone. It's a hard truth to move on.
Whatever shows you want to catch up, find alternative platforms such as watch/stream it online.
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QUOTE(joshhd @ Feb 15 2020, 02:34 AM)
Oh? Which PV condo is it?

I think you'll need to inform your building management about it, cuz I think the centralised antenna systems needs to be reconfigured on their side (if I'm not mistaken).
If you can't wait, connect to an indoor antenna or short/small outdoor antenna. Since it's around KL area, and I believe there are many condos there has a balcony view of KL tower, signal reception wise should be fine.
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Just an update to joshhd yes, the centralised antenna need to reconfigure in order to get the signal.

My condo management has no idea what is going on, direct pass me to the contractor, and is confirmed that need them to reconfigure.

So now pending for management to agree the scope of work.
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The frequency used before (682MHz and 698MHz) and after the retune (666MHz and 650MHz) is still pretty much unusable in the South unless the Indonesian side has switch off analogue signals. This is despite the signal levels of analogue Trans TV (663.25MHz/Channel 45) and RCTI (647.25MHz/Channel 43) is lower than SCTV (679.25MHz), which has caused significant reception issues at start of the digital broadcasting. The panels for the affected TV channels in Batam has to be readjusted as well. In fact, the viewers living in some parts of Southern Johor has better chance on receiving the multiplexes transmitted for the Northern Johor rather than the Southern Johor as there are no interference at all for now on 546MHz and 562MHz. As we see, the digital TV retune exercise has been completed/planned in many areas but no date has been announced in the South so far when I was writing this post! Anyway, I don't think any significant retune will done in the south unless the transmission issues has resolved although i know that this is done to make way for 700MHz 4G/5G.

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