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post Jan 24 2020, 07:58 PM

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QUOTE(BillCollector @ Jan 24 2020, 05:51 PM)
Motorcycles release more pollutants than a big V8 engined SUV or pickup truck. They should be banned and that is in addition to them being a nuisance too.
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https://cilisos.my/which-is-more-environmen...ai-or-a-hybrid/ - Will reducing Kap Chais really reduce pollution in KL? We investigate. - Wu Zhen Tan — 19/01/2017
https://www.thestar.com.my/metro/community/...-be-left-with-n - In defence of the kapchai - Tuesday, 17 Jan 2017

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P S - USA and Europe have very few low-end kapchais = they have mostly inefficient high-end big bikes and big scooters.
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post Jan 25 2020, 01:16 AM

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QUOTE(lurkingaround @ Jan 24 2020, 07:58 PM)
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https://cilisos.my/which-is-more-environmen...ai-or-a-hybrid/ - Will reducing Kap Chais really reduce pollution in KL? We investigate. - Wu Zhen Tan — 19/01/2017
https://www.thestar.com.my/metro/community/...-be-left-with-n -  In defence of the kapchai - Tuesday, 17 Jan 2017

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P S - USA and Europe have very few low-end kapchais = they have mostly inefficient high-end big bikes and big scooters.
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https://www.greencarreports.com/news/106790...ew-device-shows

The low end junks we find here are probably even more polluting as they don't need to conform to any emission control standards. We are not just talking of fuel efficiency and CO2 emissions here but also other pollutants.

There are lots of scooters in EU but not mopeds aka kapchais.
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post Jan 25 2020, 12:05 PM

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The whole story is very distasteful, TS.

All I can see if young people busy leeching off older people's money - and it's not even a lot! We are talking about 100k-400k. If they can't even work hard to save such money, they need to work harder.

Living in DPC but could only drive GRAB and can't afford renovation? Where's the priority here???

To that daughter who want to give birth, please make sure you are able to be independent and not keep leeching off others for money.

I am sure they are all able-bodied young adults. Hence, go out and make some money, instead of bickering of a few k's here.

Getting divorce between the 2 and this loan matter are two DIFFERENT thing. Things become confusing because people start to mix things up.

The best you can do is wake your FIL up. Your MIL defends rightfully and correctly - it's during their divorce then the court will decide how to split the property.

Shameful!
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post Jan 25 2020, 04:38 PM

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QUOTE(lurkingaround @ Jan 24 2020, 04:46 PM)
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Since about 1 or 2 years ago, there are non-Muslim "confinement centers in PJ" where new mothers and babies are cared for by maids for 1 month 24/7 in a cozy bungalow or semi-D setting - costs a few thousand RM. This trend started in Taiwan a few years ago.
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These centers have been around for a lot longer than that. Some are Taiwanese franchise as well where the one that does the caring are trained nurses as well as maids. I am the landlord to 2 such centers. Definitely nice places to be especially if your own home resembles a pigsty or full of undesirable inlaws. Some stay for as long as 2 months as well.

However such places are no substitute to being home.


QUOTE(lurkingaround @ Jan 24 2020, 07:13 PM)


The root cause of your above problems was that you had unjustly or unrighteously or sinfully divorced your Chinese wife = you caused your children and wife to suffer. Did you make your marriage vows in Church.? So sad.  sad.gif

....... Anyway, the worst have passed(= your in law problems) and it should be smoother sailing from now on, especially if you learn more of the non-burdensome parts of God's Law/Word.

Happy CNY to the burdensome Chinese part of your self and your beloved family.  smile.gif
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Both the weddings weren't in church. The 1st registration was done in a certain temple in KL, can't recall the name now. The 2nd was done in Las Vegas at Elvis Chapel.

The root cause of the trouble was your idol kept his profligate ways and exported his troubles to his daughter with scant regard to her ability to repay when he couldn't keep his end of the bargain.

Happy CNY to you too.


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post Jan 25 2020, 05:24 PM

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By his own words, TS evidently has a selfish White ego and also lacks empathy for the poor folks who have to ride motorbikes.
QUOTE(BillCollector @ Jan 24 2020, 05:51 PM)
Motorcycles release more pollutants than a big V8 engined SUV or pickup truck. They should be banned and that is in addition to them being a nuisance too.
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QUOTE(BillCollector @ Jan 25 2020, 01:16 AM)
https://www.greencarreports.com/news/106790...ew-device-shows

The low end junks we find here are probably even more polluting as they don't need to conform to any emission control standards. We are not just talking of fuel efficiency and CO2 emissions here but also other pollutants.

There are lots of scooters in EU but not mopeds aka kapchais.
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I believe aircraft engines, ship engines, rocket engines, power plant generators, electric generators, chainsaws, ATV, lawn-mowers and factory boilers also do not have or conform to any emission control standards. If so, should they also be banned like motorbikes.?
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This post has been edited by lurkingaround: Jan 26 2020, 05:04 PM
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post Jan 25 2020, 07:32 PM

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QUOTE(BillCollector @ Jan 25 2020, 04:38 PM)
Both the weddings weren't in church. The 1st registration was done in a certain temple in KL, can't recall the name now. The 2nd was done in Las Vegas at Elvis Chapel.

The root cause of the trouble was your idol kept his profligate ways and exported his troubles to his daughter with scant regard to her ability to repay when he couldn't keep his end of the bargain.

Happy CNY to you too.
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The actual root cause is because you, a Gentile Christian, ignorantly disobeyed God (= 2COR.6:14) by marrying a Gentile unbeliever whose Gentile parents were full of lawlessness. IOW, spiritually, you married a dog/bitch together with many of her and her parent's lawless dog-shit because the Lord/God Jesus Christ considered the mostly lawless Gentiles as like dogs = can be vicious, biting and blindly loyal/filial if under the wrong master. .......

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MATT.7:6 = 6 “Do not give what is holy to the dogs; nor cast your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you in pieces.
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MATT.6: = 24 “No one can serve two masters; for either he will hate the one and love the other, or else he will be loyal to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and mammon.

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post Jan 26 2020, 06:52 PM

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I kinda feel pity for H (the guy who was after you then ex-wife), it seems sorta like he did not know what he was getting into when he went after her and bite off more than he can chew. Also seemed like he was being treated as a spare tire or at least in her mind you were still more important than him.

I can also imagine your then ex-wife must be thinking / asking herself how did things come to this, watching everything crumbling all around her. Torn between being filial and interest of her own family (with you and the kids). Although it does seem she learned to appreciate what she had and prioritise what's important in life after this.

I am glad things have stabilised / improved for your family since then.

Edit : BTW, Happy Chinese New Year, or Happy Holidays if you don't celebrate CNY.
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Happy Chinese New Year!!


Yes thankfully things have improved leaps and bounds. It did help that she finally woke up to the reality and she did realize it would be an ongoing issue with her father but felt mostly powerless to tell him off especially when she was without a job.

She was always torn indeed, on one side there was the guilt tripping by her parents as well as cousins, on another side she realized the money wasn't hers' and she knew I didn't approve of it. She always told herself just this 1 last time and there wouldn't be a next time. It just got to it that it became one too many "just this one last time" and she always thought she had one weapon she could always count on, the children. She only realized she had fired her last bullet last March when she tried to ambush me when I visited our children and I blanked her out.

She definitely changed a lot since we got back together.

H isn't a bad guy and I do pity him as well. He did try but he didn't realize her emotional and financial liabilities or at least the extent of it. He was aware by the church policy which he was a worker at that he had to wait for her to attempt another round of reconciliation with me as the rule of that church was you can only remarry after a divorce if either before the divorce you went for 2 rounds of pre-divorce counselling and numerous rounds of prayers or if you had divorced then you must show you had attempted 3 rounds of reconciliation with very few permitted exceptions especially if there are children involved. We did go through 1 round of counselling after that I told her to name a price for a no contest divorce as I just couldn't take it any longer at that time. She named the price and set a condition that we would attempt the 1st of the 3 reconciliation within 3 months. We did and it went 26 months without any incidents then a major fight happened and we split up and I also started seeing someone else. The 2nd lasted 14 months then ended in a major war. I signed the 3rd reconciliation form, I told her I didn't care any longer what she said, she can fill it up and give it to her church. In May she told H I had signed a blank reconciliation form and he told her I was clearly uninterested in a reconciliation with her and that she should submit it, she filled out the form and stretched the truth on it which in turn caused the form to be rejected, she was told to attempt another reconciliation and he was told to stop pursuing her by his cell group leader. He decided he would continue to pursue her as he thought it was unlikely I would take her back and he thought from the way she spoke about me she probably hated me so all he had to do was to be patient with regard to that reconciliation form.





QUOTE(lurkingaround @ Jan 25 2020, 05:24 PM)
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I believe aircraft engines, ship engines, rocket engines, power plant generators, electric generators and factory boilers also do not have or conform to any  emission control standards. If so, should they also be banned like motorbikes.?
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Aircraft engines do have limits on noise and emissions as well if they are to operate in EU as well as North America.

Ships engines do have limits as well especially where it will be entering a harbour within certain EU areas.

Power generation? There are more and more requirements for carbon and particulate capture these days even in China.

Just so you know even in Malaysia before your factory can release smoke into the atmosphere you do need to have a permit from DoE and those permits don't come cheap.

Rocket engines?? How many such engines exist?? How many scumbags ride kapchais in just Kg Kerinchi alone?



QUOTE(lurkingaround @ Jan 25 2020, 07:32 PM)
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The actual root cause is because you, a Gentile Christian, ignorantly disobeyed God (= 2COR.6:14) by marrying a Gentile unbeliever whose Gentile parents were full of lawlessness. IOW, spiritually, you married a dog/bitch together with many of her and her parent's lawless dog-shit because the Lord/God Jesus Christ considered the mostly lawless Gentiles as like dogs = can be vicious, biting and blindly loyal/filial if under the wrong master. .......
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Bigoted much??

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post Jan 26 2020, 08:53 PM

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How was the CNY holidays for your family and your in-laws.? Any updates.?
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post Jan 27 2020, 09:57 AM

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QUOTE(BillCollector @ Jan 26 2020, 06:52 PM)
Aircraft engines do have limits on noise and emissions as well if they are to operate in EU as well as North America.

Ships engines do have limits as well especially where it will be entering a harbour within certain EU areas.

Power generation? There are more and more requirements for carbon and particulate capture these days even in China.

Just so you know even in Malaysia before your factory can release smoke into the atmosphere you do need to have a permit from DoE and those permits don't come cheap.

Rocket engines?? How many such engines exist?? How many scumbags ride kapchais in just Kg Kerinchi alone?
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The new emission standards for 1975 model year, as well as the increase in fuel usage, forced the invention of the catalytic converter for after-treatment of the exhaust gas. This was not possible with existing leaded gasoline, because the lead residue contaminated the platinum catalyst. In 1972, General Motors proposed to the American Petroleum Institute the elimination of leaded fuels for 1975 and later model year cars.[citation needed] The production and distribution of unleaded fuel was a major challenge, but it was completed successfully in time for the 1975 model year cars. All modern cars are now equipped with catalytic converters, and leaded fuel is no longer sold at filling stations in most First World countries.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vehicle_emissions_control

I do not think aircrafts, ships, rockets, power-plants, factory boilers, chainsaws, lawn-mowers/grass-cutters, ATV, etc have catalytic converters or particulate filters that are mandated in cars. IOW, the emission control standards/regulations for non-cars like aircrafts, ships and motorbikes are less stringent. ....... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States...ssion_standards
....... So, if motorbikes need to be banned, so should aircrafts, ships, power-plants, factories, chainsaws, grass-cutters/lawn-mowers, etc.
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Did you have bad road incidents with motorbikes.?
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Let me get this straight TS. So the main bone of contention with your wife was the financial help that she insisted that you should give to her parents and relatives? Most wives will just accept no for an answer. It's rare to put such financial help above her marriage and breakup because of it. I hope her attitude is better now and the beggars feel guilty about causing your marriage to breakup.
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QUOTE(lurkingaround @ Jan 27 2020, 09:57 AM)
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vehicle_emissions_control

I do not think aircrafts, ships, rockets, power-plants, factory boilers, chainsaws, lawn-mowers/grass-cutters, ATV, etc have catalytic converters or particulate filters that are mandated in cars. IOW, the emission control standards/regulations for non-cars like aircrafts, ships and motorbikes are less stringent. ....... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States...ssion_standards
....... So, if motorbikes need to be banned, so should aircrafts, ships, power-plants, factories, chainsaws, grass-cutters/lawn-mowers, etc.
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Did you have bad road incidents with motorbikes.?
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You should spend less time having your head stuck in a 2000 year old book and try Googling instead.

https://www.epa.gov/regulations-emissions-v...-and-aircraft-0

https://dieselnet.com/standards/inter/imo.php

You can read up on the rest by spending less time on /k.
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QUOTE(lurkingaround @ Jan 25 2020, 05:24 PM)
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I believe aircraft engines, ship engines, rocket engines, power plant generators, electric generators, chainsaws, ATV, lawn-mowers and factory boilers also do not have or conform to any  emission control standards. If so, should they also be banned like motorbikes.?
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Emissions from aviation has had limits since 2012 in the EU.

Seems your knowledge on this topic is even worse than your knowledge of Austrian and Swiss public housing.
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post Jan 28 2020, 11:51 AM

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QUOTE(BillCollector @ Jan 27 2020, 11:53 PM)
You should spend less time having your head stuck in a 2000 year old book and try Googling instead.

https://www.epa.gov/regulations-emissions-v...-and-aircraft-0

https://dieselnet.com/standards/inter/imo.php

You can read up on the rest by spending less time on /k.
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Light-duty vehicles

Light-duty vehicles are certified for compliance with emission standards by measuring their tailpipe emissions during rigorously-defined driving cycles that simulate a typical driving pattern. The FTP-75 city driving test (averaging about 21 MPH) and the HWFET highway driving test (averaging about 48 MPH) are used for measuring both emissions and fuel economy.

Two sets, or tiers, of emission standards for light-duty vehicles in the United States were defined as a result of the Clean Air Act Amendments of 1990. The Tier I standard was adopted in 1991 and was phased in from 1994 to 1997. Tier II standards were phased in from 2004 to 2009.

Within the Tier II ranking, there is a subranking ranging from BIN 1–10, with 1 being the cleanest (Zero Emission vehicle) and 10 being the dirtiest. The former Tier 1 standards that were effective from 1994 until 2003 were different between automobiles and light trucks (SUVs, pickup trucks, and minivans), but Tier II standards are the same for both types.

These standards specifically restrict emissions of carbon monoxide (CO), oxides of nitrogen (NOx), particulate matter (PM), formaldehyde (HCHO), and non-methane organic gases (NMOG) or non-methane hydrocarbons (NMHC). The limits are defined in grams per mile (g/mi).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States...ssion_standards
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The catalytic converter is a device placed in the exhaust pipe, which converts hydrocarbons, carbon monoxide, and NOx into less harmful gases by using a combination of platinum, palladium and rhodium as catalysts.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vehicle_emissions_control
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EPA is amending the existing emission standards for oxides of nitrogen (NOx) for new commercial aircraft engines. These standards are equivalent to the NOx emission standards of the United Nations International Civil Aviation Organization (ICAO), and thereby will bring United States aircraft standards into alignment with the international standards. These standards will go into effect on December 19, 2005 and they will apply to new aircraft engines utilized on commercial aircraft that include small regional jets, single-aisle aircraft, twin-aisle aircraft, and 747s and larger aircraft.
https://www.epa.gov/regulations-emissions-v...-and-aircraft-0
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Like I said before, non-cars like aircrafts, ships, power-plants, factory boilers, electric generators(eg used at pasar malams), chainsaws, lawn-mowers/grass-cutters, ATVs, motorbikes, etc do not have catalytic-converters and/or particulate filters = they come under much less stringent emission control standards/regulations compared to cars/light-vehicles.

Afaik, the limit on NO-x emission by aircrafts is not stringent at all, ie nearly all modern aircraft engines already are within the limit or compliance of the emission control standards set by ICAO and EPA since many years ago. It was as if the aircraft manufacturers were the ones who set the limits/standards, like how Boeing was delegated by the FAA to self-approve its new oddly-designed B737-MAX for flight and 1-hour iPad conversion training for the pilots.
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Some updates to this :-

1.) FIL made a slight recovery. He can move both hands but remains bedridden. Also seem more communicative but in a foul mood most of the time. He is refusing to do any PT but MIL brings him for TCM treatments. He only keeps calling me "vulture" and nothing else the times I saw him.

2.) FIL communicated to the MIL he doesn't want to die in a nursing home and would rather die at home. MIL tried to bring him home to our house but hit a dead end, instead she moved out of our house and rented a 1-storey terrace house near Tg Malim to be close to one of her sisters and checked him out of the nursing home, she did this without consulting anyone which drew the ire of both her daughters and also the 3 stooges of Team B.

3.) FIL's company that owns the piece of land is being liquidated. Plenty of unpaid creditors including IRB and the land office as well as local council. His 2nd brother is taking care of it and currently at a dead end as someone needs to cough up RM400,000 before the land could transfer, thankfully his brother has taken charge of the company and dealing with the creditors. The land remains part chicken farm, part lorry parking and a small part being used to plant chilli.

4.) SIL has decided she won't be forgiving her father, she decided that much of her life is fucked up because of his bad choices and decisions, she is still somewhat bitter she did not get to be educated overseas because the father squandered all the family wealth. She is also upset that she was made to work for free and essentially wasted much of her prime years doing stuff for the old man and not being paid for it. She isn't on talking terms with her mother either, something to do with her now having a Chindian bf, she does have a thing for mixed race men, he is a nice guy does treat her well but her mother doesn't like him due to race and religion issues. She told the mother she didn't want a share in her condo and to sell it off as she no longer wanted anything that came from her father. She still works for me and mostly lives on site as she feels most safe and secure there.

5.) MIL and wife are also no longer on talking terms. Mainly due to (2.) and some monetary dispute. MIL told wife reason she does not want the father back in our house is because he is a poor man and nothing to leave behind for her, wife told MIL she didn't need or want anything from them as her husband provides her with everything she needs or wants and regrets the years she tried to help them as it proved to be a waste of time and good money. Wife then told MIL to manage her own condo and to stop relying on me to do stuff for her unless she wanted to pay and even if I did not ask for any payment she still needed to pay. The final reason that caused the cold war is MIL found out wife is carrying a boy and a girl, wife told her mother both of them will be named the same way as our son, her mother requested that the boy follow her family name so the father can have his wish come true. Wife told her mother to forget it as it wasn't happening.

6.) Team B was given the option to buy up the house they were living in for RM550,000 well below market value on an as is where is basis, they agreed then they changed their as they believe their father doesn't have a will. They will be disappointed as their father does have a will and everything goes to my MIL. The house remains empty and locked up. None of them have visited the old man either at the nursing home or at his new abode. MIL did tell me before the start of the cold war that she will sell it as it will cost too much money to upkeep.

7.) The girl in Team C was given the option to buy up the condo for RM310,000 and her stepfather counter-offered RM250,000 for it which was accepted on the basis that it would be in her name only. They paid cash for it. She decided she will see her biological father and saw him once at the nursing home then decided never to see him again, when I asked why she simply said she only had bad vibes from him and preferred to not know who he is and said she did not want to have anything further to do with him. Money was given to MIL who is using it to take care of FIL. MIL did repay every single sen to the old lady from Team B and did say she'd like to see the old man but he is too far away and none of her children are willing to take her. 
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                       
8.) Wife decided she will forgive her father and move on from the incidences that happened over the last 12 years because of him. She went to visit him before he was moved out of the nursing home unfortunately he did not want to see her and she left because he started losing his head. She hasn't gone back again as the pregnancy is starting to wear her down and she doesn't want to do any far away trips.  Myself, I've long decided to forgive and forget, also during the last 12 years though for the most part he was an asshole with a profiligacy problem he did help me along the way, he introduced several contacts and sent some businesses my way, many of which I earned fairly good money off, then he also introduced me to several politicians and civil servants that proved to be very profitable and finally he also introduced me to one circle of new friends who ganged up to speculate on property as well as stocks, these are people that were influential enough that before a project was launched they could go select all the nice units or the entire block if that was what we wanted. Oh those contacts lead me to a very unusual addiction and obsession, which was money and making more money. However the more money I made the less willing I became to share it, in the beginning when I made RM10,000 from one of his contacts I'd take RM4,000 to save it and give the wife RM6,000 and would tell her to give some to her parents, I would even tell her if I knew they were a bit tight to give them everything as next month more money will come to us. However when my share of the profits started reaching RM50-100,000 I started finding it difficult to part with RM1,000 and stopped telling the wife how much I made off those deals, till today am quite surprised despite how much money in my bank accounts we were having couple fights over money at that time. I guess in hindsight I should be thankful to all of them and their money troubles, I was about to do one of my largest ever speculative purchase, I was going to go all in with that group to do a syndicated purchase of an entire block, wife said she knew how much money I been making off her father's contacts and it was time to pay tribute by rescuing their house, she made it very clear either buy up that house or if they lose it she was bringing both her parents to live in our house. In the end I bought up their house and it meant not being able to go through with the syndicated whole block purchase, that whole exercise proved to be a blessing in disguise because when the project had a VP auction units were showing up cheaper than the launching price and you could now fetch one up to 1/3 off the launch price, I'd be in deep shit now had I gone ahead. I guess in a way I should be thankful he created all the wars over the last 12 years especially the major war this time last year as without that war my wife and me won't be together today and our eldest probably won't be studying at the school she is today.

9.) Wife and SIL are on good terms. They both decided to bury the hatchet and move on from the past. They both decided to get their mother to manage the condo herself as they didn't want to have anything to do with it, told her if she can't manage it then to sell it off.

10.) MIL and me are not talking to each other. MIL disagreed that she needed wife's permission to speak to me and said I shouldn't have spoilt her till she is the way she is now. She views it that I'm only on wife's side and won't listen to any other side. Oh well, I told her I don't want to be like her husband and I am in a position where I need to act in her best interests first.
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Bro ur problem is everyone wans everything!!! take a few steps back n see.... in the end no one will ever own anything when ur six ft under.....
even ur MIL. Remove ur MIL and all will be better i guess...

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QUOTE(Afterburner1.0 @ Jan 28 2020, 12:15 PM)
Bro ur problem is everyone wans everything!!! take a few steps back n see.... in the end no one will ever own anything when ur six ft under.....
even ur MIL. Remove ur MIL and all will be better i guess...
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That is certainly true, part of the reason why I decided to let it be that they wanted war and am generally ignoring their initiatives to make peace.
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QUOTE(BillCollector @ Jan 20 2020, 12:39 PM)
Last day of work Wednesday.

Will return to work on the 10th as need to go to China again that day.

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China is presently Coronavirus-infested country. Still going to China(Shanghai.?) on 10 Feb 2020.? Quite risky, oh.!
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QUOTE(lurkingaround @ Jan 26 2020, 08:53 PM)
How was the CNY holidays for your family and your in-laws.? Any updates.?
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CNY??

Eve : We had lunch at home then checked in to a nice hotel. Was originally planning for Genting but everything fully booked. Therefore the KLCC area hotel worked out well. The children mostly spent it at the pool and then at the buffet. The MIL did organize a steamboat gathering and invited FIL's 2 brothers + their families to join. She did invite us to come but wife said she didn't want to attend and instead we decided to take it easy in the hotel. The SIL was invited by the MIL to put aside their differences and to attend the gathering, she ignored and instead had dinner with her bf's family and then returned to work as the factory is doing its annual software updates and upgrades. My mother asked my half sister to invite us to their house for reunion dinner, I told the HS I preferred to remain at war and being disowned.

1st day : Children spent nearly the entire day at the pool or games room and then at the buffets. I mostly spent it by the pool, at the spa or at the bar. We hosted my half-sister and her fiance for lunch. She came to ask me to make peace with the family as her wedding is coming up in June, I told her the war will continue and there isn't a point in having peace just so they can get comfortable enough to ask me for money then be at war again when they can't get it. Evening I hosted my SIL + her bf for dinner, she said she was too busy with work to feel anything and said her mood only was spoilt when the MIL called up to ask her to go to the house for the gathering. She is booking next year to be the same want to do updates and upgrades during CNY because good excuse not to see their faces. Wife felt a bit emo at how CNY is but at the same time she also said it was good in a way.

2nd day : Children woke up, had their buffet breakfast and straight away headed for the pool, then buffet lunch and pool again and then it was buffet dinner. I mostly spent it by the pool and then at the spa. MIL called to ask if she + FIL could have dinner with us, I told her to ask her daughter, wife didn't take her call. My mother did call me to go to their house for dinner I told her I had access to better food than she could cook and seeing their faces was a sure way to make my moods go bad, I told her she said I was no longer her son 3 months ago I preferred she kept to her word. She then called my wife to find a way to make peace as it is CNY, wife told her it is impossible for peace when someone prefers war and isn't eager for peace, told her they only had themselves to blame that I had become the way I am. She then asked the wife to bring the children to the house, wife told her to don't ask the impossible as she didn't want to get a scolding from me during CNY. Overall mostly a relaxing day until nite time when wife said must go out to fix her craving as she was craving for durian...urghhh YUCK!!!!

3rd day : Again they had a round of the pool after breakfast, then checked out and went shopping for groceries. The "charsiew" stepbrother called me to ask if they could come to the house since I won't go to their house. I told him I wasn't taking visitors and they weren't welcome to visit me. He then said his father would like to initiate peace, I told him I wasn't interested as I had no interest in peace and I preferred war. The half-brother called, mostly to thank me for arranging for him to have a job and he is thankful things are improving for him, he had asked me to set him up with a contractor, I set him up with a contractor that I use for all my renovation projects, he taught him how to lay tiles and thus far seems to be doing well. He said he wished 12 years ago he had listened to what I had said instead of blindly following what his father tried to plan for him but he wasn't as daring as his sister who followed what I had said and taught her. He said he will try to do better by this year, I told him to learn as much as he can from his master and don't try to be a hero. He then told me his father isn't doing well, having hip and knee pains which in turn is causing his blood pressure to spike. I told him I wasn't interested in either of his parents.

4th day : School started for the children, afternoon was the factory CNY open day. This year I did invite the MIL+FIL to come by, told them they could invite his siblings + their family to come as well. All of them came, his 4 siblings + their families did come to the factory for our buffet, free flow of beer and XO, lion dance and angpow. MIL tried to approach the wife to talk but wife decided to be among the admin people. She then tried to speak to SIL who told her she wasn't interested to talk and decided to be among the technical people. I then gave a factory tour to his 4 siblings to show them how what used to be their father's factory had been transformed. FIL's younger brother was highly impressed with it and said he could never have imagined the factory could transform. The other 3 were more dismissive, the other brother said it didn't seem like his father's factory as all the important positions were given to White managers and how could it be that so many women were given high positions in such a factory. The 2 sisters mostly said the factory can't possibly be doing well, 1 said the furnishing in the office seems mostly from IKEA and the carpark where all the company cars didn't have a single Audi, BMW, Jaguar or Mercedes everything a Perodua but for a handful of Hondas, Kias and Toyotas. The sister that is Mr Logistic's MIL said it must be a terrible place to work, everyone forced to speak in English, then insisted must be a racist place to work for as no one that isn't White ever gets to occupy the high positions. She didn't quite understand when I told her we have a zero tolerance policy when it comes to discrimination. On the flipside, Mr Logistics did speak to his estranged wife and they agreed to sit down to talk again.

Plans for remainder of the CNY?

5th day : Going to a temple in Kuala Kubu Bharu and visting an aunt of mine (my mother's youngest sister) and who lives with one of her aunts (my late grandfather's youngest sister)

6th day : I will try to visit my stepfather's sister, the one whose late ex-husband was my guardian while I was in America. Probably will bring her somewhere for lunch. This time round will bring the wife along also, must find a way to ensure the entire conversation goes on in English else might get busted that I been hiding from her that I could understand Hakka as well.

8th day : I will be going to my usual contractor's house in Kepong for dinner, he has his annual open house and sets off plenty of fireworks as he is a Hokkien.

Overall not too bad a CNY I guess.

QUOTE(lurkingaround @ Jan 29 2020, 02:58 PM)
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China is presently Coronavirus-infested country. Still going to China(Shanghai.?) on 10 Feb 2020.? Quite risky, oh.!
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I am still waiting for instructions on this. It will depend on the client and what my bosses have to say. I doubt plans will change on this as by then the worst of it should be over.

In any case my first trip to China was during the SARS outbreak. Was there for 2 months and I exchanged saliva with at least 10 PRC girls and did not go back to America with SARS smile.gif
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post Jan 30 2020, 09:39 AM

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QUOTE(BillCollector @ Jan 30 2020, 04:30 AM)
CNY??

Eve : We had lunch at home then checked in to a nice hotel. Was originally planning for Genting but everything fully booked. Therefore the KLCC area hotel worked out well.
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I would have suggested you to bring the kids out to explore the area. Quite a few nice places to visit : KLCC Aquarium, KLCC Park, Perdana Botanical Garden, Bird Park, Canopy walk at KL forest eco Park.

Best time to explore during CNY too as I imagine it's the least crowded at this time.
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QUOTE(V429 @ Jan 30 2020, 09:39 AM)
I would have suggested you to bring the kids out to explore the area. Quite a few nice places to visit : KLCC Aquarium, KLCC Park, Perdana Botanical Garden, Bird Park, Canopy walk at KL forest eco Park.

Best time to explore during CNY too as I imagine it's the least crowded at this time.
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We have done the KLCC Aquarium, wife did not want to go outdoors as she said it was too hot.

Also she cannot walk too far on an extended period of time therefore such places are basically off limits for her for now.
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post Jan 30 2020, 04:40 PM

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QUOTE(BillCollector @ Jan 30 2020, 04:35 PM)
We have done the KLCC Aquarium, wife did not want to go outdoors as she said it was too hot.

Also she cannot walk too far on an extended period of time therefore such places are basically off limits for her for now.
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Ahh.. Ok. Almost forgot about the twins. Apologies.

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