I see that you are hardworking inspector, pastor UW

It's not a matter of inspector, it's a matter of practise what you preach or believe in.

If you don't even walk what you talk about, it becomes pointless.

The more you shout or fight louder but you don't even pracitise it.....is the principle working for you or you don't believe in it?

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ACTS.5: (NKJV) = Lying to the Holy Spirit

5 But a certain man named Ananias, with Sapphira his wife, sold a possession. 2 And he kept back part of the proceeds, his wife also being aware of it, and brought a certain part and laid it at the apostles’ feet. 3 But Peter said, “Ananias, why has Satan filled your heart to lie to the Holy Spirit and keep back part of the price of the land for yourself? 4 While it remained, was it not your own? And after it was sold, was it not in your own control? Why have you conceived this thing in your heart? You have not lied to men but to God.”

5 Then Ananias, hearing these words, fell down and breathed his last. So great fear came upon all those who heard these things. 6 And the young men arose and wrapped him up, carried him out, and buried him.

7 Now it was about three hours later when his wife came in, not knowing what had happened. 8 And Peter answered her, “Tell me whether you sold the land for so much?”

She said, “Yes, for so much.”

9 Then Peter said to her, “How is it that you have agreed together to test the Spirit of the Lord? Look, the feet of those who have buried your husband are at the door, and they will carry you out.” 10 Then immediately she fell down at his feet and breathed her last. And the young men came in and found her dead, and carrying her out, buried her by her husband. 11 So great fear came upon all the church and upon all who heard these things.

This happened just after the miraculous events effected by the Holy Spirit of God at ACTS.2 - 3. I think God must have been very angry at Ananias and Sapphira for lying to Him and might have wanted to send a fearful warning message to the powerful and miracles-abounding early Church. "With great position comes great responsibility and accountibility".

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This post has been edited by lurkingaround: Apr 5 2020, 01:02 PM

You are nobody pastor UW. Now go back to your calvary church and preach to those who buy your special gospel

I am utterly speechless that after all these years as an uneducated practicing Roman Catholic, I have always understood that being baptized and being born again are both mutually exclusive events. It sure looks like that there is much more for me to learn about the Catholic Church and its teachings. Thank you for that crucial piece of information.

Ananias, with Sapphira they are not believers. The Bible will use phrases like brother or sister.

A certain Man means they're still gentile but they're being deceitful by not being honest before God.

I maybe a nobody but I'm a child of God.

I believe that whatever we preach or teach shouuld set people free from sin according to scripture truth.

I see that what you share is something you don't even believe in or it's not working for you.

Being a Christian is not a play matter, where you can say something but you're not serious.

So what is your point in sharing if it's not working on you?

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Do you have prove that they are not believers besides the assumption on the use of brother or sister and 'a certain man'.? Does the following mean Stephen, God, Cornelius and Paul were not believers.?

ACTS.6: = Stephen Accused of Blasphemy

8 And Stephen, full of faith and power, did great wonders and signs among the people. 9 Then there arose some from what is called the Synagogue of the Freedmen (Cyrenians, Alexandrians, and those from Cilicia and Asia), disputing with Stephen. ...

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LUKE.14: = 16 Then He said to him, “A certain man gave a great supper and invited many, 17 and sent his servant at supper time to say to those who were invited, ‘Come, for all things are now ready.’ 18 But they all with one accord began to make excuses. ...
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ACTS.10: = 1 There was a certain man in Caesarea called Cornelius, a centurion of what was called the Italian Regiment, 2 a devout man and one who feared God with all his household, who gave alms generously to the people, and prayed to God always. 3 About the ninth hour of the day he saw clearly in a vision an angel of God coming in and saying to him, “Cornelius!”

4 And when he observed him, he was afraid, and said, “What is it, lord?”

So he said to him, “Your prayers and your alms have come up for a memorial before God. ...
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ACTS.25: = 13 And after some days King Agrippa and Bernice came to Caesarea to greet Festus. 14 When they had been there many days, Festus laid Paul’s case before the king, saying: “There is a certain man left a prisoner by Felix, 15 about whom the chief priests and the elders of the Jews informed me, when I was in Jerusalem, asking for a judgment against him.
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1COR11: = 30 For this reason many are weak and sick among you, and many sleep. 31 For if we would judge ourselves, we would not be judged. 32 But when we are judged, we are chastened by the Lord, that we may not be condemned with the world.

1COR.3: = 16 Do you not know that you are the temple of God and that the Spirit of God dwells in you? 17 If anyone defiles the temple of God, God will destroy him. For the temple of God is holy, which temple you are.

Wrt ISA.54:9-10, afaik, it refers to the Millennial kingdom, ie after the 2nd Coming of the Redeemer God, Jesus Christ, to earth, to live 1,000 years with His raptured or resurrected people on a new earth where there will be no more sin or evilness or wickedness like those of GEN.6:5 that necessitated the Great Flood of Noah.

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This post has been edited by lurkingaround: Apr 5 2020, 03:52 PM

Lets not get into it again. The Man managing this thread is a rule unto his own. If I start with you, he will just delete.

You worhip whom/what you like. I have said my piece. I will hold back my pearls.

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Afaik, the Damansara Heights(.?) Calvary Church is a Charismatic Church. Charismatic Churches are heavy on the miraculous charis gifts of the Spirit like healings, prophecy, etc, as had been performed by Jesus Christ and His apostles/disciples during the 1st-century - cf; 2THESS.2:1-13. Some of their pastors even called themselves apostles. Some claim to be prophets like Moses and Elijah. They may likely have false teachings. Beware.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charismatic_Christianity
''''''' Charismatic Christianity (also known as Spirit-filled Christianity by its supporters) is a form of Christianity that emphasizes the work of the Holy Spirit, spiritual gifts, and modern-day miracles as an everyday part of a believer's life. Practitioners are often called Charismatic Christians or Renewalists.

Although there is considerable overlap, Charismatic Christianity is often categorized into three separate groups: Pentecostalism, the Charismatic Movement and Neo-charismatic movement. The movement is distinguished from Pentecostalism by not making the speaking in tongues (glossolalia) a necessary evidence of Spirit baptism and giving prominence to the diversity of spiritual gifts. According to the Pew Research Center, Pentecostals and Charismatic Christians numbered over 584 million or a quarter of the world's 2 billion Christians in 2011. '''''''

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Chrismatic movement come in variety of flaovor and most of them i could say is good people. But there are among them that championing radical theology idea like hypergrace, prosperity gospel and word of faith AKA name it claim it. I have very strong distaste to such distortion of gospel

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https://www.thestar.com.my/news/world/2020/...for-coronavirus - With obesity and diabetes epidemic, Mexico braces for coronavirus - Friday, 27 Mar 2020
''''''' Mexico had 475 confirmed cases of COVID-19 - the illness caused by the virus - and six deaths by Thursday. Four of those who died had diabetes and two suffered from hypertension - both conditions that can exacerbate the illness. A seventh Mexican who died in Peru also had diabetes. While four of the victims were over age 60, the other two were 55 and 41. '''''''

Most of those who died from the Wuhan virus/Covid-19 had underlying diseases, especially diabetes and hypertension. Type-2 diabetes is often caused by a lifestyle of laziness and/or gluttony. Hypertension is often caused by a lifestyle of gluttony for meat or foods high in cholesterol(= sticky stuffs). So, these deaths may likely be a case of 'you reap what you sow' or 'karma is a bitch' or padan muka. .......

PROV.19 & 23: = 19:15 Laziness casts one into a deep sleep,
And an idle person will suffer hunger.

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He who keeps the commandment keeps his soul,
But he who is careless of his ways will die.

23:20
Do not mix with winebibbers,
Or with gluttonous eaters of meat;

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This post has been edited by lurkingaround: Apr 5 2020, 03:55 PM

It depends on the context of the Bible, there's nothing to indicate Annais or Shaphira were believers. If they were, the Bible would have given hints in the next verses or following passages.

Is you read Isaiah 53, it talks about our Lord Jesus, Isaiah 54 is after 53, what this means is that it can apply to believers because it talks about promises that does not violates the new covanant. Read Galatians 3:29

Galatians 3:29 (NIV) - If you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

You cannot say that. You wouldn't know what actually happened. Nobody knows..only God knows.

Can you stop being so ..........mean to other people? Don't say things like padan muka or the B word... when we don't know what actually happened?

This is not Christ like.

This post has been edited by unknown warrior: Apr 5 2020, 04:22 PM

You say you have a strong distaste but the things that you shared....you don't even submit to it or it's not working for you.

Do you realize this?




This post has been edited by unknown warrior: Apr 5 2020, 04:10 PM

Colossians 3:7-8 (NIV) - You used to walk in these ways, in the life you once lived. But now you must also rid yourselves of all such things as these: anger, rage, malice, slander, and filthy language from your lips.


desmond2020

You say one must follow moral laws of God's command right?

This post has been edited by unknown warrior: Apr 5 2020, 04:20 PM

Pastor UW, do you have a mirror at home? Trust you are lack of such product of technology. Do you reaslise it says about anger? Take a deep look at yourself then

That's where you are wrong, not angry just have distaste for contradiction or when one who preach something but walk the opposite.

That is deceptive if not misleading. It causes others to stumble in case this escapes you.

you are not being serious of the thing you advocate. That is wrong.

Perhaps the principle that you advocate so strongly does not work for you?

Have you try Grace then?

This post has been edited by unknown warrior: Apr 6 2020, 11:14 AM

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At ACTS.5, the apostle Peter knew Ananias and Sapphira, the married couple, by name = he was acquainted with them = they were not strangers to Peter. From this, logically, Ananias and Sapphira were not unbelievers.

Peter accused Ananias of lying to the Holy Spirit of God. Why would Peter do so if Ananias was an unbeliever, ie did not believe in Jesus Christ and His Holy Spirit.? IOW, technically-speaking, unbelievers could not lie to the Holy Spirit of God. It's like accusing an atheist of lying to God. So, it might have been unjust for God to judge and kill Ananias and Sapphira for lying to His Spirit if they were not believers.

And why would the early Church believers feared greatly if God killed unbelievers for lying to Him/His Spirit since "good" believers would not have lied(= not killed by God), ie only evil unbelievers would have lied(= killed by God), as per your interpretation.?
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This post has been edited by lurkingaround: Apr 5 2020, 05:54 PM

Brethren,

We ALL benefit when we take to look in the mirror before opening our mouths.

Jesus warned us very clearly of this in Matt 7
“ Do not judge and criticize and condemn [others unfairly with an attitude of self-righteous superiority as though assuming the office of a judge], so that you will not be judged [unfairly]. For just as you [hypocritically] judge others [when you are sinful and unrepentant], so will you be judged; and in accordance with your standard of measure [used to pass out judgment], judgment will be measured to you. Why do you look at the [insignificant] speck that is in your brother’s eye, but do not notice and acknowledge the [egregious] log that is in your own eye? Or how can you say to your brother, ‘Let me get the speck out of your eye,’ when there is a log in your own eye? You hypocrite (play-actor, pretender), first get the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother’s eye.
Matthew 7:1‭-‬5 AMP
https://bible.com/bible/1588/mat.7.1-5.AMP


Perhaps it is good for every one to take a step backwards, reassess the situation, and forgive each other?