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DTH heatsink discussion!, vs tower and ultra 120
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interesting looking hsf... nice idea.... performance is not bad...wat do u guys think?
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Hmm, another heatsink that uses the concept of direct contact of heatpipe to the processor.
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doubt it will be that good because the surface will not be that flat no matter how well it is lapped.
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wow.......
nice heatsink .... is it avaible yet in malaysia???? |
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QUOTE(DaRkSyThE @ May 29 2007, 08:09 PM) Are you kidding me? Copper's heat conductivity is at least 30% more than aluminium.But really, if anyone wants to be extreme, use a silver plate. Silver is the best heat and electrical conductor for any single metal at room temperature. At least 10% better than copper. |
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Silver is not the best heat conductor. See here : http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/tables/thrcn.html
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QUOTE(kmarc @ May 29 2007, 10:51 PM) Silver is not the best heat conductor. See here : http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/tables/thrcn.html Well I did say metal; diamond isn't a metal. But yes, diamond is the best solid heat conductor known-a damned expensive one at that. There might be better ones, but only under very specific conditions. In any case, a typical heatpipe actually has better heat conductivity than any pure metal, but the heatpipe orientation and temperature range matters a lot in that aspect.Added on May 29, 2007, 11:11 pmAnd yes, thanks for the table. So to set the figure exactly, copper conducts heat 87% better than aluminium, and silver conducts heat 5% better than copper and 98% better than aluminium This post has been edited by lohwenli: May 29 2007, 11:11 PM |
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another direct contact cooler
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/3RSystem/ICEAGE n it does work wonderfully as tested by this chap at XS forum http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=143099 |
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I've known from the start that this kind of heatsink that uses direct contact between heatpipe and processor's have a good performance.
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May 30 2007, 10:35 AM
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QUOTE(lohwenli @ May 29 2007, 10:24 PM) Are you kidding me? Copper's heat conductivity is at least 30% more than aluminium. there is a diff between conductivity and atrractivity.But really, if anyone wants to be extreme, use a silver plate. Silver is the best heat and electrical conductor for any single metal at room temperature. At least 10% better than copper. think bout it. if copper is better, then why are the fins aluminium? this is because of its ability to extract heat ahd disperse it quickly just to add onto the topic. QUOTE You can see where the pipes gap between the Aluminum of the base and the next pipe, but the contact between the base of each heatpipe was excellent. These little gaps got filled with TIM, and could possibly cause a slight performance loss. This post has been edited by DaRkSyThE: May 30 2007, 10:41 AM |
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copper is good in absorbing heat but its very hard to disperse heat... at least harder than alu, thats the reason why they use alu fins... i think that the reason
well here is my logic... the copper base and heatpipe absorb the heat from the processor and then transfer them to the alu fin and the fan will cool down the fins.... correct me if i am wrong This post has been edited by sup3rfly: May 30 2007, 10:55 AM |
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May 30 2007, 11:29 AM
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QUOTE(DaRkSyThE @ May 30 2007, 10:35 AM) there is a diff between conductivity and atrractivity. think bout it. if copper is better, then why are the fins aluminium? this is because of its ability to extract heat ahd disperse it quickly QUOTE(sup3rfly @ May 30 2007, 10:54 AM) copper is good in absorbing heat but its very hard to disperse heat... at least harder than alu, thats the reason why they use alu fins... i think that the reason Ok, back to physics 101.well here is my logic... the copper base and heatpipe absorb the heat from the processor and then transfer them to the alu fin and the fan will cool down the fins.... correct me if i am wrong Copper is superior to aluminium in terms of heat conduction (Thermal conduction) Aluminium is superior to copper in terms of heat absorption/dispersion (specific heat) Refer to the following hyperlinks: http://www.ee.byu.edu/cleanroom/thermal_properties.phtml http://www.answers.com/topic/specific-heat-capacity Aluminium & copper heatsink (This is interesting!!!) Summary : Copper for the base to collect the heat quickly. Aluminium for the fins to get rid of it. P.S. Yahoo! My noctua is in this setup!!!! This post has been edited by kmarc: May 30 2007, 11:33 AM |
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QUOTE(DaRkSyThE @ May 30 2007, 10:35 AM) there is a diff between conductivity and atrractivity. think bout it. if copper is better, then why are the fins aluminium? this is because of its ability to extract heat ahd disperse it quickly just to add onto the topic. QUOTE(sup3rfly @ May 30 2007, 10:54 AM) copper is good in absorbing heat but its very hard to disperse heat... at least harder than alu, thats the reason why they use alu fins... i think that the reason Not really. There is no such thing as heat attractivity. And the specific heat capacity has little effect on losing heat, only effects the time it takes for thermal conditions to equalise (aka hysteresis).well here is my logic... the copper base and heatpipe absorb the heat from the processor and then transfer them to the alu fin and the fan will cool down the fins.... correct me if i am wrong The proper answer is-density. Aluminium is much, much lighter than copper for the same volume, and you can easily put a hell lot of thin fins and increase the surface area without a significant increase in weight. And with that much surface area, the lower heat conductivity of aluminium can be minimised. Using a similar design in copper will significantly increase the weight of the heatsink, those who own all copper heatsinks should know this quite well. Dropping on your foot one of those all-copper heatsinks which are huge enough to perform equally to their aluminium fin counterparts will really hurt, and I'm not talking about the damage to the heatsink Heatpipes on the other hand, are made of copper because it is absolutely critical for the heat be conducted to the fins, or else why even put fins at all? The non-heatpiped heatsinks suffer this problem-heat is not well distributed to most of the fins, and even on the same fin its hard to conduct heat from one end to another due to the low thickness of the fins. |
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wow, does this mean that the base in contact with gc is copper and the fins aluminium will give the best2 heat dissipitation? Read all yr previous remarks but nobody came outright to say which configuration is best....
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QUOTE(ronho @ May 30 2007, 09:37 PM) wow, does this mean that the base in contact with gc is copper and the fins aluminium will give the best2 heat dissipitation? Read all yr previous remarks but nobody came outright to say which configuration is best.... That's true. We're already into discussion about thermodynamics!!!The discussions were theorectical and what we need are hard facts. If two heatsink of identical design, heatpipes + aluminium fins and heatpipes + copper fins (disregarding weight), who would win? Any data? |
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QUOTE(kmarc @ May 31 2007, 07:28 AM) That's true. We're already into discussion about thermodynamics!!! well...the full copper will win but it requires higher cfm fan to cool it down...thats why u see the xp90C is so good last time The discussions were theorectical and what we need are hard facts. If two heatsink of identical design, heatpipes + aluminium fins and heatpipes + copper fins (disregarding weight), who would win? Any data? full copper definately better than copper + alu but in term of efficiency as fan cfm vs performance, copper + alu will win |
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QUOTE(kmarc @ May 31 2007, 07:28 AM) That's true. We're already into discussion about thermodynamics!!! All copper will win even for the same airflow. But it will be only by a slight margin, which will not be worthwhile considering the weight. You can see this clearly in XP90 vs XP-90c. The winner isn't terribly clear, because the high conductivity of the heatpipes already distibutes heat very well to the fins.The discussions were theorectical and what we need are hard facts. If two heatsink of identical design, heatpipes + aluminium fins and heatpipes + copper fins (disregarding weight), who would win? Any data? QUOTE(sup3rfly @ May 31 2007, 08:12 AM) full copper definately better than copper + alu but in term of efficiency as fan cfm vs performance, copper + alu will win I'm not too sure about this. I know heatsink manufacturers have a tendency to use a design that takes up less space for copper heatsinks due to weight, which usually results in fins close together (which gives damn good cooling with high cfm, but hopelessly bad cooling at low cfm). Has anyone tried out the XP-90 and XP-90c with a variety of different fans? |
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ok lets get back to the discussion of this heatsink. not much point going around the same thing over and ovef again
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This cooler has a lot of space between the heatpipes and the heatsink base (especially at the base). Would it help if these dead spaces were closed up? I mean solder it up or put thermal paste?
As with other heatsinks, I notice there is a flat surface at the base. Have been wondering whether cooling would be improved if one were to stick a heatsink over the base.... |
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The flatness probably does affect the heatsink's effectiveness. But contrary to most people's perception, thermal paste actually has very bad thermal conductivity compared to metal-so filling the gaps with thermal paste would probably have not much effect.
Filling it with solder however, might be a good idea as it would allow better heat transfer from the IHS to the heatpipes (more area). BUT, there's a huge risk... http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=270141&hl= Off topic, I think sticking a small heatsink on the flat base of larget heatsinks would have minimal effect. It would be hard to get good thermal contact unless you lapped both surfaces to match, and the bigger heatsink would already be doing a good job of transferring heat away, a conventional heatsink would be insignificant by comparision. Even the best non-heatpiped heatsinks struggle to deal with 80W and above, noisy, high power fans would be required. This post has been edited by lohwenli: Jun 1 2007, 07:45 PM |
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Errr.... the link is to a sony mp3 player la
One thing about this cooler is the uneven distribution of heat. I mean, since aluminium is different to copper in terms of heat conductivity and heat specific, this would create different temperature on the IHS. You know, one stripe of hotter area and one stripe of cooler area. Well, I guess not so much on the proc itself as the IHS is the one with differential temperature but would it be good for the proc? |
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QUOTE(kmarc @ Jun 1 2007, 07:30 PM) Errr.... the link is to a sony mp3 player la Corrected the link..sorry, had too many tabs open, forgot what I last copied.One thing about this cooler is the uneven distribution of heat. I mean, since aluminium is different to copper in terms of heat conductivity and heat specific, this would create different temperature on the IHS. You know, one stripe of hotter area and one stripe of cooler area. Well, I guess not so much on the proc itself as the IHS is the one with differential temperature but would it be good for the proc? Yeah, that would be the case, alternating cool and hot strips of area on the IHS. But anyway heat production on the processor die is by no means uniform to start with, and the processor die is pretty small even when compared to the IHS. So I guess there would be no real effect of uneven cooling. |
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QUOTE(kmarc @ Jun 1 2007, 02:53 PM) This cooler has a lot of space between the heatpipes and the heatsink base (especially at the base). Would it help if these dead spaces were closed up? I mean solder it up or put thermal paste? isn't the spaces between the heatpipes at the base filled with the aluminium ??As with other heatsinks, I notice there is a flat surface at the base. Have been wondering whether cooling would be improved if one were to stick a heatsink over the base.... Heatsink with flat surface, even you put a heatsink on it, it wouldn't help much, unless you put a fan on there. QUOTE(kmarc @ Jun 1 2007, 07:30 PM) Errr.... the link is to a sony mp3 player la I guess the uneven distribution of heat wont be really significant IMHO.One thing about this cooler is the uneven distribution of heat. I mean, since aluminium is different to copper in terms of heat conductivity and heat specific, this would create different temperature on the IHS. You know, one stripe of hotter area and one stripe of cooler area. Well, I guess not so much on the proc itself as the IHS is the one with differential temperature but would it be good for the proc? Maybe it does affect, but wont by much i guess. |
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QUOTE(LittleLinnet @ Jun 1 2007, 07:55 PM) Heatsink with flat surface, even you put a heatsink on it, it wouldn't help much, unless you put a fan on there. I was just wondering about that. However, I just can't put my hand on the base of my noctua heatsink to see whether it is hot to touch or not (no space!!!). If it is hot, I believe that another heatsink would help.....@lohwenli - aiyoo! I don't mean using a stove to heat up the heatsink for soldering la!!! What I mean was using a soldering iron....... This post has been edited by kmarc: Jun 1 2007, 08:14 PM |
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QUOTE(kmarc @ Jun 1 2007, 08:13 PM) I was just wondering about that. However, I just can't put my hand on the base of my noctua heatsink to see whether it is hot to touch or not (no space!!!). If it is hot, I believe that another heatsink would help..... Trust me on this-when soldering something that can rapidly dissipate heat, you need a TON of heat even to keep the solder workable. Regardless of whether you use a stove or a very high power soldering iron, you're setting yourself up for trouble.@lohwenli - aiyoo! I don't mean using a stove to heat up the heatsink for soldering la!!! What I mean was using a soldering iron....... |
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I found an interesting comparison between
Thermalright Ultra-120 eXtreme, Noctua NH-U12F Xigmatek HDT-S1283 Tuniq Tower120 All are high performance air cooler.. A Taiwanese reviewer wrote the article and posted at http://www.coolaler.com/~coolaler/forum/sh...ad.php?t=156295 I got his permission to post it here in English. ![]() Added on July 4, 2007, 1:10 amThermalright Ultra-120 eXtreme which uses 6 heat-pipes ![]() ![]() Nice lapped.. just like mirror ![]() ![]() Cooler with LGA 775 bracket.. AM2 bracket included too Added on July 4, 2007, 1:15 amXigmatek HDT-S1283 which uses HDT (Heat-pipe Direct Touch) technology.. ![]() Accessories.. with reinforce mobo bracket for socket 775 ![]() Comes with 0.44A 12 cm fan ![]() It is lightweight, and normal size.. ![]() HDT technology.. never seen be4 right? Added on July 4, 2007, 1:17 amTest Bed: CPU Intel C2D QX6850(G0) M/B MSI P35 Neo2-FR(ICH9R) BIOS:P07 beta(6/28) RAM King Box DDR2 800 D9GMH@1200 HDD Quantum 30G P-ATA VGA MSI 8500GT DDR2 256MB 16X DVD-ROM PSU Enhance 650W(ES) cooling fan: Tower 120 2000rpm+speed controller Software Used: OS win XP SP2 intel Thermal Analysis Tool ORTHOS (dual core SP2004 version CPU loading50%) printscreen after 5 minutes operation Room temperature 31~33 C Coolers are tested under these criteria: 1.fan2000rpm test QX6850(G0)3Ghz idle 2.fan2000rpm test QX6850(G0)3Ghz with ORTHOS dual core SP2004 3.fan1500rpm test QX6850(G0)3Ghz with ORTHOS dual core SP2004 4.fan1000rpm test QX6850(G0)3Ghz with ORTHOS dual core SP2004 5.fan2000rpm test QX6850(G0)OC to 3.6Ghz with ORTHOS dual core SP2004 Added on July 4, 2007, 1:24 am ![]() i cant put many pictures on this thread..there is a limit.. so heres the result.. Thermalright Ultra-120 eXtreme has the best performance Noctua NH-U12F is a good silent cooler Xigmatek HDT-S1283 is compact, lightweight Tuniq Tower120 the legend This post has been edited by ckhoong: Jul 4 2007, 01:30 AM |
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I knew it!
I knew from the start that the heatpipe direct touch is the best! Seriously, if you think deeply enough, the Xigmatek HDT-S1283 is the real winner! Why? Okay, how many heatpipe does Ultra 120 Extreme uses? It's 6 U Heatpipe! And how many heatpipe does Xigmatek HDT-S1283 use? It's 3 U heatpipe! Look at that! Ultra 120 Extreme uses double the number of heatpipe compared to Xigmatek HDT-S1283, but Ultra 120 Extreme can only cool 1 degrees cooler than Xigmatek HDT-S1283. Isn't that kinda pathetic? Can you imagine the peformance of Xigmatek HDT-S1283 if it uses the same number of heatpipe just like what Ultra 120 uses? Seriously, the Xigmatek HDT-S1283 is the clear winner! I love HDT (Heat-pipe Direct Touch) technology! This post has been edited by sHawTY: Jul 4 2007, 07:48 AM |
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i love it...going to replace my thermalright HR-1......
it is small compared to the HR-01....i have removed some fins in order to put in my system...dah cacatlo... |
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QUOTE(sHawTY @ Jul 4 2007, 07:46 AM) I knew it! Bro..how about Alu and copper?TR use an Alu but Wigmatek use a Hybrid I knew from the start that the heatpipe direct touch is the best! Seriously, if you think deeply enough, the Xigmatek HDT-S1283 is the real winner! Why? Okay, how many heatpipe does Ultra 120 Extreme uses? It's 6 U Heatpipe! And how many heatpipe does Xigmatek HDT-S1283 use? It's 3 U heatpipe! Look at that! Ultra 120 Extreme uses double the number of heatpipe compared to Xigmatek HDT-S1283, but Ultra 120 Extreme can only cool 1 degrees cooler than Xigmatek HDT-S1283. Isn't that kinda pathetic? Can you imagine the peformance of Xigmatek HDT-S1283 if it uses the same number of heatpipe just like what Ultra 120 uses? Seriously, the Xigmatek HDT-S1283 is the clear winner! I love HDT (Heat-pipe Direct Touch) technology! ** When looking at the design, my expecting is same with U.HDT should be better.How about price and availability?can we get in our local market? This post has been edited by sjn hassan: Jul 4 2007, 08:59 AM |
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QUOTE(sjn hassan @ Jul 4 2007, 08:59 AM) Manada. Merepek je ko ni. Thermalright punya product diorang guna copper heatpipe, but the heatpipes & the base has been plated with nickel. Sebab tu ko nampak the whole heatsink macam fully 100% aluminium. It's just the same with most heatsink in the market nowadays. The reason why they plated the heatpipe & the base with nickel is because they don't want the heatpipe and the base to oxidized and with fully 100% aluminium look, dia nampak lagi kemas dan lebih professional. Tu je. This post has been edited by sHawTY: Jul 4 2007, 07:27 PM |
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Xigmatek and ThermalRight
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QUOTE(sniper69 @ Jul 4 2007, 09:18 AM) Xigmatek and ThermalRight Ni lagi sorang, aku ketuk kepala karang baru tau. Ultra 120 Extreme bukan full 100% aluminium la. Heatpipe ngan base Ultra 120 Extreme copper, tapi dah plated with nickel, sebab tu ko nampak macam 100% Aluminium. Product thermalright semua camtu. [except heatsinks yang 100% copper la] This post has been edited by sHawTY: Jul 4 2007, 07:26 PM |
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QUOTE(sHawTY @ Jul 4 2007, 09:26 AM) Ni lagi sorang, aku ketuk kepala karang baru tau. haduh... bukan ke aku type "100%" pe... Ultra 120 Extreme bukan full 100% aluminium la. Heatpipe ngan base Ultra 120 Extreme copper, tapi dah anodized, sebab tu ko nampak macam 100% Aluminium. Product thermalright semua camtu. [except heatsinks yang 100% copper la] |
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QUOTE(sHawTY @ Jul 4 2007, 09:26 AM) Ni lagi sorang, aku ketuk kepala karang baru tau. thermalright bukan anodise ler...plated dengan nikel.Ultra 120 Extreme bukan full 100% aluminium la. Heatpipe ngan base Ultra 120 Extreme copper, tapi dah anodized, sebab tu ko nampak macam 100% Aluminium. Product thermalright semua camtu. [except heatsinks yang 100% copper la] |
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QUOTE(sjn hassan @ Jul 4 2007, 08:59 AM) Bro..how about Alu and copper?TR use an Alu but Wigmatek use a Hybrid well.. i shall bring this in earlier... wanna start a bulk? ** When looking at the design, my expecting is same with U.HDT should be better.How about price and availability?can we get in our local market? |
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Sadly, xigmatek doesnot product any chipset cooler.
Would love if one company were to make one chipset cooler that uses the HDT technology with two heatpipes. There's already one chipset cooler that utilize the HDT technology, but it only uses 1 heatpipe. It's PCCooler HB-771s Northbridge Cooler. It would be better though if xigmatek produces on CPU heatsink that uses the HDT technology that utilize 6 heatpipes. Wondering how good will it performs with 6 heatpipes & HDT technology. |
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QUOTE(sHawTY @ Jul 4 2007, 07:54 PM) Sadly, xigmatek doesnot product any chipset cooler. Wat more can i add bro shawty oredi stated the obvious here...6 pipes with thick base not so good less pipe direct contact superb cooling...i wonder what result if xigmatek uses 6 heatpipes? Would love if one company were to make one chipset cooler that uses the HDT technology with two heatpipes. There's already one chipset cooler that utilize the HDT technology, but it only uses 1 heatpipe. It's PCCooler HB-771s Northbridge Cooler. It would be better though if xigmatek produces on CPU heatsink that uses the HDT technology that utilize 6 heatpipes. Wondering how good will it performs with 6 heatpipes & HDT technology. MY VOTE XIGMATEK!!!!! QUOTE(ckhoong @ Jul 4 2007, 07:42 PM) owh bro dont temp me?if u do hurry la and need to ask sammore ka?paisehhh... |
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Jul 5 2007, 08:49 AM
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good heatsink...going to get it from TS today!!!!
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Jul 5 2007, 12:00 PM
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what is this??
yes, xigmatek does has a better efficiency in heat transfer and unless it is alot more cheaper than the Ultra-120 xtreme or the pricing is the same then xigmatek is still the outright loser is this comparision it no like you can buy the xigmatek and add 3 mor heat pipes this is not like buying a car -get a car with good engine, and mod it till it's better than the touted better car when you get a HSF you're stuck with it when it is 1 degree less, it is still 1 degree less' Thaty, again, if the pricing is the same ... |
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QUOTE(mcchin @ Jul 5 2007, 12:00 PM) what is this?? not like that la yes, xigmatek does has a better efficiency in heat transfer and unless it is alot more cheaper than the Ultra-120 xtreme or the pricing is the same then xigmatek is still the outright loser is this comparision it no like you can buy the xigmatek and add 3 mor heat pipes this is not like buying a car -get a car with good engine, and mod it till it's better than the touted better car when you get a HSF you're stuck with it when it is 1 degree less, it is still 1 degree less' Thaty, again, if the pricing is the same ... who is stupid enough to buy a heatsink that is bigger, heavier, got extra 3 or 10 or 100 heatpipe just like buying those TT BigWater watercooler --> why pay more when High-end Air Cooling can do the job? why go such hassle installing it when High-end Air Cooling is damn easy in installing it even Xigmatek is the same price with Ultra-120 Extreme, I still go for xigmatek reason --> smaller in size, easy installation of other hardware such as 4-Pin Power Cable, i'm willingly to sacrifice my hardware 1 degree hotter just for the easy installation --> utterly stupid for me to go for the 1 degree difference when my hardware can sustain till 80 degrees (still lots more temp left) |
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Jul 5 2007, 03:31 PM
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Ultra-120 eXtreme
外觀精緻,焊工用心的藝術品,憑藉著6支大型熱導管和高效能的散熱機制,坐擁空冷之王的寶座Ultra-120 eXtreme當之無愧! 優點: 此顆散熱器效能寬廣,適合全域的使用,尤其重度超頻效果越佳! 缺點: 價格高,扣具壓力磅數極高,不易安裝...必須小心鎖合切勿用蠻力喔! HDT-S1283 價格便宜,C/P值佳...創新的HDT技術,可畏帶來散熱界的突破! 優點: 長期使用於直立機殼,不易造成變形與脫落!橡膠固定柱有助減少風扇共振產生的噪音! 缺點: 內附的intel式按鍵扣具,易使主板LGA775 socket座因PCB變形而導致錫裂接觸不良,建議加購強化背版與扣具 noctua NH-U12F 歐洲時尚造型,精緻安全的設計,不會割手! 優點: 靜音取向,美觀討喜,好安裝...重度超頻搭配雙暴力扇亦能坐擁空冷之寶座! 缺點: 價格稍高,單風扇極限表現普通.... Tower 這老牌的過氣王者...特色就是衝極限啦! 優點: 裸測時快速徒手架平台,不需起子! 缺點: 重量之王,不適合直立小機殼,風扇內置不能加裝,體積過大易干涉主板熱導管(GA P35-DQ6) 最後祝大家用的愉快 |
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Jul 5 2007, 03:44 PM
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u are sooooo right!!!! well,i get the xigmatek HDT-S963 from ckhoong today!!! man...this is really small heatsink as compared to my current Thermalright HR01(mine saw off 1/4 in height)!! will test it once i get back as compared to my currently setting!! QUOTE(E-J@1 @ Jul 5 2007, 12:30 PM) not like that la who is stupid enough to buy a heatsink that is bigger, heavier, got extra 3 or 10 or 100 heatpipe just like buying those TT BigWater watercooler --> why pay more when High-end Air Cooling can do the job? why go such hassle installing it when High-end Air Cooling is damn easy in installing it even Xigmatek is the same price with Ultra-120 Extreme, I still go for xigmatek reason --> smaller in size, easy installation of other hardware such as 4-Pin Power Cable, i'm willingly to sacrifice my hardware 1 degree hotter just for the easy installation --> utterly stupid for me to go for the 1 degree difference when my hardware can sustain till 80 degrees (still lots more temp left) |
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Jul 5 2007, 06:09 PM
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how much for one of these bad boyz?
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Jul 5 2007, 06:28 PM
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i only concern bout how user going to clean up the TIM after removing the HSF from proc. those small gap are hard to clean. even dip in alcohol wont help much.
another vote for DHT:thumb: how much does this one cost? i'm still deciding on Ultra120Extreme, IFX14, Tuniq and now, HDT-S1283. Does this one pWn IFX14? This post has been edited by toughnut: Jul 5 2007, 06:28 PM |
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@akachester
of course 120ext use fan. if not impossible to run fanless with OCed proc. price for this xigmatek cooler already revealed. anyone interested? This post has been edited by toughnut: Jul 6 2007, 12:10 PM |
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Jul 8 2007, 11:13 AM
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ok, i have merged the thread so that u guys can discuss here
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Jul 8 2007, 12:13 PM
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Jul 8 2007, 01:00 PM
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pm lolhalol to do so.. im not the TS anymore
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Jul 8 2007, 07:07 PM
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Jul 9 2007, 03:54 PM
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damn,
i found out that the Xigmatek perform much much betther if i open my side casing!!!! Idle at 3040Ghz(E6400) at 36 to 39C Orthos Load show at 50 to 55C......quite good as compared to my "modification HR-01" which show 60 to 65C.. all using thermal paste AS5. |
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Jul 9 2007, 04:13 PM
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QUOTE(MakNok @ Jul 9 2007, 03:54 PM) damn, Wah! 10'c lower than the HR-01!!!i found out that the Xigmatek perform much much betther if i open my side casing!!!! Idle at 3040Ghz(E6400) at 36 to 39C Orthos Load show at 50 to 55C......quite good as compared to my "modification HR-01" which show 60 to 65C.. all using thermal paste AS5. Where did you get your xigmatek? For how much? Is it the S1283 or the S983? Errr..... any heatsink would perform better without the side casing la.... |
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Jul 9 2007, 04:47 PM
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well....bro,u sure that u e6400 3.05GHz idle @ 36-39c with the xigmatek???
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Jul 9 2007, 06:53 PM
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QUOTE(MakNok @ Jul 9 2007, 03:54 PM) damn, haha.. we would like to see hows ur casing looks like.. the air vendelation seem has to do something i found out that the Xigmatek perform much much betther if i open my side casing!!!! Idle at 3040Ghz(E6400) at 36 to 39C Orthos Load show at 50 to 55C......quite good as compared to my "modification HR-01" which show 60 to 65C.. all using thermal paste AS5. Added on July 9, 2007, 6:54 pm QUOTE(kmarc @ Jul 9 2007, 04:13 PM) Wah! 10'c lower than the HR-01!!! he bought s963..Where did you get your xigmatek? For how much? Is it the S1283 or the S983? Errr..... any heatsink would perform better without the side casing la.... This post has been edited by ckhoong: Jul 9 2007, 06:54 PM |
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Jul 9 2007, 08:17 PM
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QUOTE(ckhoong @ Jul 9 2007, 06:53 PM) he bought s963.. |
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Jul 9 2007, 09:28 PM
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ya...my air ventilation is not good...
open side casing immediately show idle temperature to 36C to 41C which is much much better than my HR-01. who is selling this so call Evercool PC Air Conditioner the link ; http://www.cyberguys.com/templates/searchd...?productID=6423 i have fix back my 80mm Fan on my side casing...it did bring down the temperature. Man...this heatsink is cool... [[[[[[[[[[[Neon Crab Cooler with "Shawty Bling Bling"]]]]]]]]]] ((((((My Modified HR-01 with Ori Intel Fan Glue)))))) *********Tunnel Cooling System******* Modified HR-01 At Load state....................................................................At Idle State My Humble PC; Xigamatek S963 result My conclusion; For my casing,i need a small medium size heatsink where Xigmatek S963 fit nicely in my casing. Maybe it is not fair to compared my "decaptivated" HR-01 heatsink All i can say...Xigmatek performed good for my O/C E6400 at 3Ghz.. The Xigmatek fan is damn noisy....so i use back the intel fan!!!! This post has been edited by MakNok: Jul 9 2007, 10:36 PM |
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Jul 9 2007, 10:07 PM
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Maknok, any specific reason why you modify your HR-01?
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Jul 9 2007, 10:22 PM
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Cannot close my side panel lo...
so i dismantle the fin one by one until the height just ngam ngam my slim casing.. well..it still better than the stock heatsink.. i just like the quite fan noise of the intel. QUOTE(sHawTY @ Jul 9 2007, 10:07 PM) Added on July 9, 2007, 10:24 pmNow awaiting my CoolIt Eliminator as shown in the link below; http://www.coolitsystems.com/index.php?opt...ask=view&id=132 This post has been edited by MakNok: Jul 9 2007, 10:24 PM |
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Jul 9 2007, 10:25 PM
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That could be the reason your HR-01 isn't performing as expected.
Anyway the HR01 fins were soldered to the heatpipe. How did you manage to remove the fins? |
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Jul 9 2007, 10:35 PM
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Maybe my defective HR-01 isn't performing as expected but i remember clearly that the result doesn't differ much even if the original height for this HR-01 is still intact..
just taken a risk to dismantle some of the aluminium fins and i bend the the end rod as u can see. Using longnose plier,,,i twist and turn and using cutter as well. and u can see my masterpiece!! QUOTE(Polar_012 @ Jul 9 2007, 10:25 PM) |
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Jul 9 2007, 10:40 PM
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QUOTE(MakNok @ Jul 9 2007, 10:35 PM) Maybe my defective HR-01 isn't performing as expected but i remember clearly that the result doesn't differ much even if the original height for this HR-01 is still intact.. I can't tell how much of a difference but there would be loss in performance as less heat would get dissipated due to less number of fins.just taken a risk to dismantle some of the aluminium fins and i bend the the end rod as u can see. Using longnose plier,,,i twist and turn and using cutter as well. and u can see my masterpiece!! |
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Jul 9 2007, 10:55 PM
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@MakNok, thx for the feedback! I can't wait to get my hands on the xigmatek S1293!!!
QUOTE(MakNok @ Jul 9 2007, 10:35 PM) Maybe my defective HR-01 isn't performing as expected but i remember clearly that the result doesn't differ much even if the original height for this HR-01 is still intact.. Wahlioa! So brave aaa..... If you happen to rupture the heatpipes, then the heatsink would be so defective!!!just taken a risk to dismantle some of the aluminium fins and i bend the the end rod as u can see. Using longnose plier,,,i twist and turn and using cutter as well. and u can see my masterpiece!! QUOTE(Polar_012 @ Jul 9 2007, 10:40 PM) I can't tell how much of a difference but there would be loss in performance as less heat would get dissipated due to less number of fins. I think if he just remove a few of the top fins, it won't make much of a difference. The reason is that the top fins are usually cool! Even on my noctua, at core temp of 60'c, the top fins are still cool..... |
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QUOTE(kmarc @ Jul 9 2007, 10:55 PM) @MakNok, thx for the feedback! I can't wait to get my hands on the xigmatek S1293!!! yalor ...not much difference and i have just broken one of the heatpipe to show that Polar_012 theory is wrong...!!Wahlioa! So brave aaa..... If you happen to rupture the heatpipes, then the heatsink would be so defective!!! I think if he just remove a few of the top fins, it won't make much of a difference. The reason is that the top fins are usually cool! Even on my noctua, at core temp of 60'c, the top fins are still cool..... see the broken heatpipe....there goes my HR-01!! now my heatsink really defective!!!! Added on July 9, 2007, 11:15 pm QUOTE(AceCombat @ Jul 9 2007, 04:47 PM) definitely...see my latest posting!!This post has been edited by MakNok: Jul 9 2007, 11:15 PM |
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QUOTE(MakNok @ Jul 9 2007, 11:13 PM) yalor ...not much difference and i have just broken one of the heatpipe to show that Polar_012 theory is wrong...!! The inner part of that heatpipe you broke is porous for the sole purpose of capilary function so that the fluid would flow back to it's original state despite gravity.see the broken heatpipe....there goes my HR-01!! now my heatsink really defective!!!! |
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QUOTE(Polar_012 @ Jul 9 2007, 11:17 PM) The inner part of that heatpipe you broke is porous for the sole purpose of capilary function so that the fluid would flow back to it's original state despite gravity. like that ar..then i will saw off the bottom heat pipe tomolo at my working place interested to know further if your theory is right!! learning new thing everyday!!! This post has been edited by MakNok: Jul 9 2007, 11:31 PM |
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Jul 10 2007, 03:13 PM
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QUOTE(MakNok @ Jul 10 2007, 08:31 AM) Oops...think my heatsink is doomed alreadi. Hey, if you're seriously thinking about experimenting, here's a suggestion to see whether the heatpipes work or not.forgot to bring the heatsink to working place. it survive another day!! Just saw off all the top tubings, you know, like your broken tubing. Then turn it upside down just to make sure there's nothing in it. If your theory is right, then the heatsink will still function as before..... This post has been edited by kmarc: Jul 10 2007, 03:14 PM |
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QUOTE(kmarc @ Jul 10 2007, 03:13 PM) Hey, if you're seriously thinking about experimenting, here's a suggestion to see whether the heatpipes work or not. Just saw off all the top tubings, you know, like your broken tubing. Then turn it upside down just to make sure there's nothing in it. If your theory is right, then the heatsink will still function as before..... |
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Jul 10 2007, 07:18 PM
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Alright! Here's another review of the xigmatek S963. Not a bad performer considering that it is the 92mm version.
I wished there were other reviews on the S1263..... http://www.frostytech.com/articleview.cfm?...eid=2134&page=1 |
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i.. just.. received.. the.. samples.. lets.. have.. a.. look.. drool
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Jul 10 2007, 10:46 PM
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Nice. The HSF looks nice but your lighting is superb! Like professional photographer!!!
Err.... the temperature is for the S963 or S1283? |
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Jul 11 2007, 09:48 PM
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QUOTE(ckhoong @ Jul 10 2007, 11:11 PM) i'm bringing in the retail units soon.. come come join my bulk.. So can lend us the samples for review aaa? samples are meant for reviews n testing ho.. manufacture will get mad if im selling it Bulk is a bit slow la. Maybe you should put it in your sig so that other people can see. |
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Jul 17 2007, 02:19 AM
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Jul 17 2007, 10:37 AM
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yeah test it and put into my roundup may b
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Jul 17 2007, 10:47 AM
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no la
sweat this time will be tuniq vs sigmatek may be...too bad the TR 120 extreme is not in kl anymore =\ else can do a big compare! |
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Jul 17 2007, 12:15 PM
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if 1283 compare with 963 . quite interesting .
see the result have a big distance ! |
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QUOTE(likito @ Jul 22 2007, 07:33 PM) ermm i think so since 1283 has more surface for the heat to dissipate faster.also if couple with ear ripping fan surely can do wonder with the HDT thingy.btw i wonder YTF the 1283 didnt use 4 instead of 3 |
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QUOTE(styloe @ Jul 23 2007, 02:06 AM) Because it's impossible, if they use 4 heatpipes HDT, then the base of the heatsink will be too wide, and there's nothing to lock the heatpipes below.And when the base is too wide, the base itself may hit some of the capacitors and pwm controller on the motherboard. |
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QUOTE(sHawTY @ Jul 23 2007, 08:37 AM) Because it's impossible, if they use 4 heatpipes HDT, then the base of the heatsink will be too wide, and there's nothing to lock the heatpipes below. nothing is impossible my fren.refer HERE And when the base is too wide, the base itself may hit some of the capacitors and pwm controller on the motherboard. for my observation of the 1283,the HDT is fairly far apart it shud able to squeeze another heatpipe |
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QUOTE(likito @ Jul 22 2007, 07:33 PM) manufacture said the diff just 3 to 4C QUOTE(styloe @ Jul 23 2007, 01:12 PM) nothing is impossible my fren.refer HERE haha.. it is possible to fit 4 6mm heat-pipes but not 4 8mm heat-pipes for my observation of the 1283,the HDT is fairly far apart it shud able to squeeze another heatpipe ![]() u get 8mm heat-pipes from S1283 |
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Jul 26 2007, 11:02 PM
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Here's a new review on the xigmatek S963 : http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/coolers/d...k-hdt-s963.html
It even beats a scythe infinity in a closed system case (although needed higher fan speed). Remember that this is the 90mm version with only 3x 6mm heatpipes. The authors did conclude that the S963 heat dissipating area was not large enough to accomodate the Q6600..... Can't wait to see the review on the 120mm version (Xigmatek S1863) with it's larger surface area, 120mm fan and 3x 8mm heatpipes! |
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QUOTE(kmarc @ Jul 26 2007, 11:02 PM) Here's a new review on the xigmatek S963 : http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/coolers/d...k-hdt-s963.html nice also i think the decibels also acceptable.if i can tolerate the tri blade this level of noisiness is NOTHING It even beats a scythe infinity in a closed system case (although needed higher fan speed). Remember that this is the 90mm version with only 3x 6mm heatpipes. The authors did conclude that the S963 heat dissipating area was not large enough to accomodate the Q6600..... Can't wait to see the review on the 120mm version (Xigmatek S1863) with it's larger surface area, 120mm fan and 3x 8mm heatpipes! |
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Jul 28 2007, 07:26 PM
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Here's another review in German! Includes the Xigmatek S1283, TR 120-ultra extreme and water-cooling. Really exciting to know the performance of DTH coolers!
http://www.hartware.de/review_723_7.html I've taken the liberty to translate the words (from google translater) although I wished there was a review in English!!! Messwerte - Measurements K = Kelvin (dunno why use kelvin instead of celsius Wasserkhler - water-cooling Ultra-Silent Luftkhler - ultra-silent air-cooler Non-Silent Luftkhler Beispiele - non-silent air-cooling (? at 100% fan speed) Gerusch - noise deutlich hrbar - clearly audible Sortierung nach besten Differenzwert unter Last - Difference in temperature under load ??? Raumtemperatur - ambient temperature Anybody who know german pls translate the conclusion!!! This post has been edited by kmarc: Jul 28 2007, 07:35 PM Attached thumbnail(s) |
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Aug 3 2007, 11:36 AM
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use google la bro,
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=e...cial%26hs%3Dm4S QUOTE It already is impressing and zollt all respect, which achieved the Xigmatek team with the HDT-S1283 and which in Ultra silent exhaust Setup. Thermalright had hardly shifted the Khlerfreaks with the Ultra-120 of extremes into new euphoria, shows a newcomer, how it still another Touch goes better. Even if with 1200 Upm - contrary to the so far best radiator - which could not be cracked 20 Kelvin mark, the achievement all the more captivates with 840 Upm. Mainly the 8mm Heatpipes has responsibility, on whose employment momentarily different radiator manufacturers work. It is thus a question at present, until the past Top manufacturers will counter with it. Whether the "Direct Touch technology" actually offers advantages, may being doubted on the basis the tests with other candidates like the Zaward Square Advance. Apart from Top equipment, accessories and very tidy processing - in connection with compact dimensions for a radiator with 120mm exhaust - the Xigmatek HDT-S1283 cool Combo offers a good price performance ratio. Deficiency is the somewhat too strongly selected series exhaust, to change although again praise-worth equipped with PWM connection for the current Main boards and the supplement on 3-Pin Molex connection. Recommendation: the series exhaust with an optional exhaust price increase use. Finally the Xigmatek HDT-S1283 is on the basis all achievements and characteristics current Ultra silent front runner. If that make any sense to u... It seem like it's on par with Ultra120X Added on August 3, 2007, 11:45 ambtw, ckhoong, u also sell that AIO Xigmatek? TEC right? how much? This post has been edited by toughnut: Aug 3 2007, 11:45 AM |
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Aug 3 2007, 11:52 AM
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here another unofficial review
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Aug 3 2007, 01:49 PM
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QUOTE(toughnut @ Aug 3 2007, 11:36 AM) use google la bro, LOL. I did use google translator on the conclusion!!! I actually wanted to paste that translation but eventually decided not to. However, the translation was adequate enough to gather some conclusions on the S1293.http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=e...cial%26hs%3Dm4S If that make any sense to u... It seem like it's on par with Ultra120X Added on August 3, 2007, 11:45 ambtw, ckhoong, u also sell that AIO Xigmatek? TEC right? how much? |
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Aug 7 2007, 10:47 PM
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Aug 11 2007, 02:35 AM
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Aug 12 2007, 06:12 PM
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lolhalol , wrong title. is HDT not DHT . >.<
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Aug 12 2007, 07:51 PM
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DTH or HDT also can. Just move the words around
Direct touch heat-pipe. Heat-pipe direct touch. If you ask me, both sound wrong. |
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Aug 12 2007, 09:05 PM
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Aug 12 2007, 09:32 PM
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QUOTE(slash @ Aug 12 2007, 07:51 PM) DTH or HDT also can. Just move the words around Errr.... isn't the easiest way to resolve this is to visit their website and see? Direct touch heat-pipe. Heat-pipe direct touch. If you ask me, both sound wrong. Anyway, I went there to check it out - like likito said it is HDT - Heat-pipe Direct Touch....... @"those with xigmatek" - PLEASE give some feedback!!!!! |
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Aug 13 2007, 01:36 AM
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yalor so long ady no review from LYN?
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Aug 13 2007, 02:13 AM
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QUOTE(kmarc @ Aug 12 2007, 09:32 PM) Errr.... isn't the easiest way to resolve this is to visit their website and see? how to give feed back since not arrived yet...u guys shud know who's using it now ma...Anyway, I went there to check it out - like likito said it is HDT - Heat-pipe Direct Touch....... @"those with xigmatek" - PLEASE give some feedback!!!!! pakcik posto HAYAKU |
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Aug 13 2007, 05:35 PM
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Muahahaaaa...... now testing my xigmatek S1283.....
CPU : E6750 Mobo : P35-DS3 Ambient : Around 28'c Rig : NAKED - pls note!!! Remember that the core temperature of the E6x50 series is still unresolved! Dunno which one to follow.... here's some results.... Intel's stock HSF 3.16Ghz at 1.35v: core0/1 : 50/50'c, CPU : 55'c 3.44Ghz at 1.40v: core0/1 :55/55, CPU : 62'c 3.51Ghz at 1.45v: You gotta be kidding! Want me to fry eggs aaa??? Xigmatek 3.16Ghz at 1.35v : core 0/1 : 39/39'c, CPU 44'c 3.44Ghz at 1.40v : core 0/1 : 43/43'c, CPU 49'c 3.52Ghz at 1.45v : core 0/1 : 46/46'c, CPU 52'c CPU = Easytuner's CPU temperature and Speedfan's temp2 temperature..... Now orthosing at 1.425v at 3.5Ghz with the fan speed reduced to 2000rpm instead of 100%...... This post has been edited by kmarc: Aug 13 2007, 06:05 PM Attached thumbnail(s) |
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Aug 13 2007, 06:01 PM
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this cooler quite huge . cant closed the side panel with power logic atrix 5000 casing
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Aug 13 2007, 06:07 PM
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QUOTE(kmarc @ Aug 13 2007, 05:35 PM) Muahahaaaa...... now testing my xigmatek S1283..... i wish i could post some comparison with my geminiII (soon to be someone else's)...but didnt have the reading for geminiII...CPU : E6750 Mobo : P35-DS3 Ambient : Around 28'c Rig : NAKED - pls note!!! Remember that the core temperature of the E6x50 series is still unresolved! Dunno which one to follow.... here's some results.... Intel's stock HSF 3.16Ghz at 1.35v: core0/1 : 50/50'c, CPU : 55'c 3.44Ghz at 1.40v: core0/1 :55/55, CPU : 62'c 3.51Ghz at 1.45v: You gotta be kidding! Want me to fry eggs aaa??? Xigmatek 3.16Ghz at 1.35v : core 0/1 : 39/39'c, CPU 44'c 3.44Ghz at 1.40v : core 0/1 : 43/43'c, CPU 49'c 3.52Ghz at 1.45v : core 0/1 : 46/46'c, CPU 52'c CPU = Easytuner's CPU temperature and Speedfan's temp2 temperature..... Now orthosing at 1.425v at 3.5Ghz with the fan speed reduced to 2000rpm instead of 100%...... |
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Aug 13 2007, 08:30 PM
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Well, I just realize that my cooler's fan running at around 1100k RPM only. Anyway to make it run at full speed? Previously it running at 2k RPM, but after I reinstalled it again, it started to run at 1k speed instead 2k rpm...
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Aug 13 2007, 08:37 PM
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use speed fan
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Aug 13 2007, 09:02 PM
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QUOTE(RokXIII @ Aug 13 2007, 08:30 PM) Well, I just realize that my cooler's fan running at around 1100k RPM only. Anyway to make it run at full speed? Previously it running at 2k RPM, but after I reinstalled it again, it started to run at 1k speed instead 2k rpm... Yeah, you can use speedfan.Does your mobo come with any fan control software? You can use that also..... |
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Aug 13 2007, 09:45 PM
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QUOTE(RokXIII @ Aug 13 2007, 08:30 PM) Well, I just realize that my cooler's fan running at around 1100k RPM only. Anyway to make it run at full speed? Previously it running at 2k RPM, but after I reinstalled it again, it started to run at 1k speed instead 2k rpm... or u can use the setup in ur BIOS if ur mobo has it...on gigabyte, it's something like Enable Smartfan or something...if i wan to make it full speed, i just disable it...if not it will be auto depending on the cpu temp... |
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Aug 14 2007, 01:57 AM
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haiya still no review from our TEAM KOC...faitit lorrrr hahaha....
see how this baby rocks from ULTRA 120EX?fasssteerrr....plz |
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Aug 14 2007, 08:03 AM
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currently i'm OCCTing my Q6600 G0 at 3.6Ghz wif 1.45v(bios)/vdroop to 1.42v...already passed 7 hours and the xigmatek is really really fighting to cap the temp...load temp at around 59-62c...we'll see whether can pass the 12 hours mark or not...
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Aug 14 2007, 08:44 AM
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QUOTE(slash @ Aug 13 2007, 08:37 PM) QUOTE(kmarc @ Aug 13 2007, 09:02 PM) Yeah, you can use speedfan. able to control the fan speed now, now running at 2k rpm. but the problem is there got no changes in the temperature... no difference between 1k rpm and 2k rpm... Does your mobo come with any fan control software? You can use that also..... |
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Aug 14 2007, 08:56 AM
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QUOTE(remysix @ Aug 14 2007, 08:03 AM) currently i'm OCCTing my Q6600 G0 at 3.6Ghz wif 1.45v(bios)/vdroop to 1.42v...already passed 7 hours and the xigmatek is really really fighting to cap the temp...load temp at around 59-62c...we'll see whether can pass the 12 hours mark or not... Eh, why is your vcore so high? I thought the Q6600 G0 can do 3.5-3.6Ghz at 1.35v?My E6750 is already doing 3.5Ghz at 1.425v, can almost reach 3.6Ghz at 1.45v (set in BIOS). Wonder whether I should go up to 1.5v...... QUOTE(RokXIII @ Aug 14 2007, 08:44 AM) able to control the fan speed now, now running at 2k rpm. but the problem is there got no changes in the temperature... no difference between 1k rpm and 2k rpm... Is it? Are you sure speedfan is controlling the fan? Sometimes if you do not set it correctly, speedfan does nothing to the fan speed. Usually what I do is use speedfan to stop the fan totally, if I can do that, then I'm sure I can control the fan thru speedfan.......Yesterday, at load, I tried to reduce the fan speed a bit and the temperature did go up...... have to go back and try today..... |
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Aug 14 2007, 09:04 AM
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QUOTE(kmarc @ Aug 14 2007, 08:56 AM) Eh, why is your vcore so high? I thought the Q6600 G0 can do 3.5-3.6Ghz at 1.35v? Actually speedfan can't show me the correct fan speed, so i open everest to refer the fan speed. Before i tweak it, the fan speed in everest is around 1k rpm, when i tweak it in speedfan by increasing the percentage, the fan speed in everest increase as well to 2k rpm. My E6750 is already doing 3.5Ghz at 1.425v, can almost reach 3.6Ghz at 1.45v (set in BIOS). Wonder whether I should go up to 1.5v...... Is it? Are you sure speedfan is controlling the fan? Sometimes if you do not set it correctly, speedfan does nothing to the fan speed. Usually what I do is use speedfan to stop the fan totally, if I can do that, then I'm sure I can control the fan thru speedfan....... Yesterday, at load, I tried to reduce the fan speed a bit and the temperature did go up...... have to go back and try today..... But, the weird thing, i can't feel changes in the temperature and also the fan's noise. From 1k to 2k rpm, the fan's noise should be louder a bit, rite? But it still very silent... |
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Aug 14 2007, 11:17 AM
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QUOTE(kmarc @ Aug 14 2007, 08:56 AM) Eh, why is your vcore so high? I thought the Q6600 G0 can do 3.5-3.6Ghz at 1.35v? My E6750 is already doing 3.5Ghz at 1.425v, can almost reach 3.6Ghz at 1.45v (set in BIOS). Wonder whether I should go up to 1.5v...... if u r taking about booting into window...sure can but i'm talking 12hours prime/orthos/OCCT stable at that speed... |
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Aug 14 2007, 05:23 PM
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QUOTE(RokXIII @ Aug 14 2007, 09:04 AM) Actually speedfan can't show me the correct fan speed, so i open everest to refer the fan speed. Before i tweak it, the fan speed in everest is around 1k rpm, when i tweak it in speedfan by increasing the percentage, the fan speed in everest increase as well to 2k rpm. Try reducing the fan speed to 0% (Zero percent). By right, the fan should stop. If it doesn't, then your configuration is wrong.But, the weird thing, i can't feel changes in the temperature and also the fan's noise. From 1k to 2k rpm, the fan's noise should be louder a bit, rite? But it still very silent... Edit: I briefly tried the fan speed on my rig. Folding at 45'c at 1k rpm. When I increase the fan speed to full speed (2.2k), the temperature dropped to 42'c within 1 minute. Didn't wait to see whether it would drop further or not..... QUOTE(remysix @ Aug 14 2007, 11:17 AM) if u r taking about booting into window...sure can but i'm talking 12hours prime/orthos/OCCT stable at that speed... So sorry aaa.... anyway, nice proc you have there!!! This post has been edited by kmarc: Aug 14 2007, 06:34 PM |
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Aug 15 2007, 08:38 PM
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AMD Stock cooler default vcore idle 40c
Xigmatek HDT-1283 default vcore idle 36c totally disappoint it . try many way already still the same , dont know my proc got problem or my personal skill problem.. |
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Aug 15 2007, 09:04 PM
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QUOTE(likito @ Aug 15 2007, 08:38 PM) AMD Stock cooler default vcore idle 40c you should pay more attention on the load temperature...its quite normal to have the small idle temperature difference...Xigmatek HDT-1283 default vcore idle 36c totally disappoint it . try many way already still the same , dont know my proc got problem or my personal skill problem.. |
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Aug 15 2007, 09:13 PM
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QUOTE(likito @ Aug 15 2007, 08:38 PM) AMD Stock cooler default vcore idle 40c Need to know a few things:Xigmatek HDT-1283 default vcore idle 36c totally disappoint it . try many way already still the same , dont know my proc got problem or my personal skill problem.. 1) Are you running C&Q? 2) Did you OC your rig? 3) What is your room temperature? 4) Open or closed casing? 5) What is the fan speed of the Xigmatek Let me give you an example regarding the xigmatek on my rig: At idle - core 0/1 : 24/24'c, easytuner5 CPU temp : 30'c --- xigmatek fan running at 250rpm!!! At load (folding) - core 0/1 : 41/41'c, easytuner5 CPU temp : 45'c --- xigmatek fan running at 1000rpm.... (I set the rpm in easytuner) At load (orthos) - core 0/1 : 46/46'c, easytuner5 CPU temp : 51'c --- xigmatek fan running at 2200rpm (full speed).... can hear the fan spinning quite audibly.... |
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Aug 16 2007, 12:04 AM
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QUOTE(remysix @ Aug 15 2007, 09:04 PM) no thermometer in hand , cannot check the ambient temp . my pc put at living room , no air con . Added on August 16, 2007, 12:08 am QUOTE(kmarc @ Aug 15 2007, 09:13 PM) Need to know a few things: 1) Are you running C&Q? disable anready1) Are you running C&Q? 2) Did you OC your rig? 3) What is your room temperature? 4) Open or closed casing? 5) What is the fan speed of the Xigmatek Let me give you an example regarding the xigmatek on my rig: At idle - core 0/1 : 24/24'c, easytuner5 CPU temp : 30'c --- xigmatek fan running at 250rpm!!! At load (folding) - core 0/1 : 41/41'c, easytuner5 CPU temp : 45'c --- xigmatek fan running at 1000rpm.... (I set the rpm in easytuner) At load (orthos) - core 0/1 : 46/46'c, easytuner5 CPU temp : 51'c --- xigmatek fan running at 2200rpm (full speed).... can hear the fan spinning quite audibly.... 2) Did you OC your rig? yes 3) What is your room temperature? dont know leh , no thermometer in hand 4) Open or closed casing? , yes , open the side panel 5) What is the fan speed of the Xigmatek , full speed 2k rpm i will post some screenshot later .. This post has been edited by likito: Aug 16 2007, 12:09 AM |
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QUOTE(sup3rfly @ Aug 16 2007, 12:28 PM) good job man , enjoy now ! |
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Aug 17 2007, 08:48 AM
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try reapply TIM and re-sit it properly. apply TIM on base of HSF, covering all the flat heatpipes.
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Aug 18 2007, 01:40 AM
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QUOTE(toughnut @ Aug 17 2007, 08:48 AM) wahhh everyone already play with this cooler.i have no bloody time to assemble my new rig... so is everyone satisfy with it any suggestion and comments?best way to install it?vertically or horizontally?i wonder how much it weigh with fan on push and full config?hopefully not that much coz afraid will damage the mobo |
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QUOTE(styloe @ Aug 18 2007, 01:40 AM) wahhh everyone already play with this cooler.i have no bloody time to assemble my new rig... AMD platfom only 2 way , either face gc or psu . no more choice ..so is everyone satisfy with it any suggestion and comments?best way to install it?vertically or horizontally?i wonder how much it weigh with fan on push and full config?hopefully not that much coz afraid will damage the mobo |
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i dont think it weight so much till it break the mobo. actually i never see any prove anyone actually broke their mobo due to heavy weight... a myth i must say...
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QUOTE(toughnut @ Aug 18 2007, 05:12 PM) i dont think it weight so much till it break the mobo. actually i never see any prove anyone actually broke their mobo due to heavy weight... a myth i must say... it might not break the mobo but one of the bracket leg might pop up from it's place since it is plastic after all. so, be carefull. but luckily the proc has internal temp control that will auto-shutdown the system instantly once the threshold is reached. been there, done that and damn intel standard bracket. |
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QUOTE(remysix @ Aug 18 2007, 10:41 PM) it might not break the mobo but one of the bracket leg might pop up from it's place since it is plastic after all. so, be carefull. but luckily the proc has internal temp control that will auto-shutdown the system instantly once the threshold is reached. maybe can built custom mounting with screws and spring like superfly did with intel stok HSF. been there, done that and damn intel standard bracket. better mounting means better contact with IHS and the cooler sits where it shud be.just my 2rupiah |
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put the case horizontal. only thing to look out for is dvdrom. harddisks can operate no matter how u place them
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Well, I'm wondering, have anyone try to lap their cooler already?
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QUOTE(remysix @ Aug 18 2007, 10:41 PM) it might not break the mobo but one of the bracket leg might pop up from it's place since it is plastic after all. so, be carefull. but luckily the proc has internal temp control that will auto-shutdown the system instantly once the threshold is reached. lol my push pins used to face similiar problem (one of the push pin's plastic leg bent and stuff), until guided by superfly/shawty that i can use the intel's stock heatsink's push pins. now my temp issue is under controled. but in the event it happens again, i would really prefer to have those custom push pins available been there, done that and damn intel standard bracket. superfly mentioned some really good pushpins, but they are only sold overseas, anyone know if i can get em locally? (custom socket 775 pushpins) |
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Aug 20 2007, 11:09 AM) lol my push pins used to face similiar problem (one of the push pin's plastic leg bent and stuff), until guided by superfly/shawty that i can use the intel's stock heatsink's push pins. now my temp issue is under controled. but in the event it happens again, i would really prefer to have those custom push pins available i have no idea.anyone knows?maybe we can get better contact using this pin instead of stok pins superfly mentioned some really good pushpins, but they are only sold overseas, anyone know if i can get em locally? (custom socket 775 pushpins) maybe ask ckhoong to ask XIGMATEK whether they can sell it separately This post has been edited by styloe: Aug 21 2007, 07:40 PM |
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Quite shock to see the performance is same or better than 120-Ultra Xtreme, while the price is much lower.
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QUOTE(layerXT @ Aug 27 2007, 09:10 PM) Quite shock to see the performance is same or better than 120-Ultra Xtreme, while the price is much lower. Well cant say its the king of Air cooling but to me its the king of cheapskate cooler.get good performance without price tag!!maybe someone can do latest test for aircooling since many new aircooling stuff is already out in the market |
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QUOTE(toughnut @ Sep 4 2007, 12:32 PM) here my HSF setup. dual fan mode How did u connect the rear 120mm to the Xigmatek? Im trying to do the same mod to my S1283. Any drop in temp? This post has been edited by intune: Sep 4 2007, 10:43 PM |
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@intune
just use flexible metal tie. u know, those usually comes with cables bundle. dont know it's proper name lol actually just trying it out for temp usage but since it didnt fall off, i just left it there till now. performance? i actually never use single fan mode on this heatsink lol. first time install it, already have dual fan set up in my mind haha |
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QUOTE(toughnut @ Sep 5 2007, 08:49 AM) @intune Did the pull fan mod for my xigmatek tonight and and my conclusion was beside 1C drop on each core i rather exclude it due to the noise it was generating..just use flexible metal tie. u know, those usually comes with cables bundle. dont know it's proper name lol actually just trying it out for temp usage but since it didnt fall off, i just left it there till now. performance? i actually never use single fan mode on this heatsink lol. first time install it, already have dual fan set up in my mind haha |
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QUOTE(styloe @ Sep 6 2007, 01:52 AM) oem fan just to test.. I think the xigmatek doin good job oredi to cool down processor ..adding more fan will not be significant enuff as the noise is greater.. I rather concentrate on good airflow inside casing prob changing the stock xigma fans to something like those Good Deltas or Silverstone.. This post has been edited by intune: Sep 6 2007, 12:58 PM |
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but dual fan look kick @$$ to me. that's y i dont bother removing and meddling with it.
did u try oc with high voltage? i think at those situation, it will make a differences |
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Sep 7 2007, 03:26 AM
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QUOTE(toughnut @ Sep 6 2007, 03:05 PM) but dual fan look kick @$$ to me. that's y i dont bother removing and meddling with it. u'll need to couple with almost the same fan to get optimal performance i think.i wonder if someone coupling this sucker with noctua fans did u try oc with high voltage? i think at those situation, it will make a differences |
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Sep 11 2007, 01:55 PM
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hi , i want to ask the best airflow direction either A or B (AMD platfom only 2 direction , either face psu or gc)
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Sep 11 2007, 09:46 PM
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@dear likito
if ur casing got rear fan ,installed it as exhaust@suck out air and the xigmatek fan as intake@suck in air. |
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Sep 11 2007, 10:05 PM
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QUOTE(likito @ Sep 11 2007, 01:55 PM) hi , i want to ask the best airflow direction either A or B (AMD platfom only 2 direction , either face psu or gc) Does you PSU have openings at the bottom? If it does, the A direction is better. Blow the air towards the PSU, and the air will be blown out by the PSU..... |
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Sep 13 2007, 02:07 AM
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Sep 13 2007, 08:19 AM
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QUOTE(likito @ Sep 11 2007, 01:55 PM) hi , i want to ask the best airflow direction either A or B (AMD platfom only 2 direction , either face psu or gc) It would be best for you to try both ways and opt for the way with the better cooling results.» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « QUOTE(styloe @ Sep 13 2007, 02:07 AM) Not really maybe just a slight bit. |
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QUOTE(likito @ Sep 11 2007, 01:55 PM) hi , i want to ask the best airflow direction either A or B (AMD platfom only 2 direction , either face psu or gc) Use setup A. |
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Sep 13 2007, 10:48 AM
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won't such setup burden the PSU since more hot air passed through the PSU .....
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Sep 13 2007, 05:28 PM
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thanks for the information , settle A direction
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Sep 13 2007, 05:44 PM
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Sep 13 2007, 05:47 PM
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OCZ vendetta with DTH tech..
tsk tsk..oem from xigmatek? ![]() http://www.ocztechnology.com/products/cool...etta_cpu_cooler |
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Sep 13 2007, 05:56 PM
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QUOTE(PowerSlide @ Sep 13 2007, 05:47 PM) OCZ vendetta with DTH tech.. Weird. How come the fan cfm is so low at 2800rpm.... OIC, it is the smaller version.... tsk tsk..oem from xigmatek? What do you call this type of agreement (between OCZ and Xigmatek.....)? |
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QUOTE(kmarc @ Sep 13 2007, 05:56 PM) What do you call this type of agreement (between OCZ and Xigmatek.....)? OCZ + Xigmatek = OCMATEK |
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Sep 13 2007, 06:18 PM
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OMG... but the design a bit different from xigmatek.... haha...
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Sep 13 2007, 06:33 PM
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Sep 13 2007, 07:10 PM
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lolz @ shawty
ocz jus oem from xigmatek lor..change abit design of the find den a new product |
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Sep 13 2007, 09:29 PM
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QUOTE(PowerSlide @ Sep 13 2007, 07:10 PM) lolz @ shawty design no change ocz jus oem from xigmatek lor..change abit design of the find den a new product |
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Sep 13 2007, 09:48 PM
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My heart almost jumped out when I saw this review : http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?opti...=1&limitstart=2
QUOTE When applying thermal interface material to the Xigmatek HDT-S1283 exposed copper heatpipe 120mm CPU cooler, it's very important to understand that most TIM's used with aluminum coolers will cause oxidation to the copper heatpipes upon contact. Unfortunately, Xigmatek did not include any special TIM for their exposed copper base, which is an accountable oversight. While nearly any TIM will suffice, it is recommended that you do not use a material based on silicone oxide for best results and product longevity I checked my AS5, phew! Luckily no silicone in it!! Why type of TIM uses silicone anyway? This post has been edited by kmarc: Sep 13 2007, 09:51 PM |
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Sep 13 2007, 11:29 PM
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QUOTE(kmarc @ Sep 13 2007, 09:48 PM) My heart almost jumped out when I saw this review : http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?opti...=1&limitstart=2 how bout the artic MX2 ?I checked my AS5, phew! Luckily no silicone in it!! Why type of TIM uses silicone anyway? |
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QUOTE(PowerSlide @ Sep 13 2007, 05:47 PM) OCZ vendetta with DTH tech.. ocz HDT cooler look 99.9% same with xigmatek. tsk tsk..oem from xigmatek? » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « http://www.ocztechnology.com/products/cool...etta_cpu_cooler last time i got see another HDT cooler(南海) which is made in taiwan or china ![]() ![]() here is the link : http://www.hkepc.com/?id=26 This post has been edited by likito: Sep 14 2007, 12:51 AM |
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QUOTE(likito @ Sep 14 2007, 12:48 AM) last time i got see another HDT cooler(南海) which is made in taiwan or china That's the PCCooler brand.They are from China. They are the pioneer in this HDT technology with the PCCooler HB771-S Northbridge Cooler. That's the first heatsink that uses HDT technology. |
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There must be a reason why Xigmatek only include 3 Pipes .. it must be about thermal transfer efficiency. But i would love to see in the next revision more pipes then 3 just to see the difference.. Not forgetting more pipes = more cost.
Anyways..im not sure who stole design from who but the Zaward Zikaray looks exactly like Xigmatek.. http://www.zaward.co.jp/cpu-zikaray.html ![]() This post has been edited by intune: Sep 14 2007, 01:25 AM |
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Sep 14 2007, 06:51 AM
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QUOTE(styloe @ Sep 13 2007, 11:29 PM) Dunno. I don't think it has silicone either. Only stated in their website that the MX2 doesn't have any metal substances....Added on September 14, 2007, 6:52 am QUOTE(likito @ Sep 14 2007, 12:48 AM) ocz HDT cooler look 99.9% same with xigmatek. I wonder whether this HSF is more efficient, considering that it has 4 heatpipes.....last time i got see another HDT cooler(南海) which is made in taiwan or china This post has been edited by kmarc: Sep 14 2007, 06:52 AM |
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QUOTE(kmarc @ Sep 14 2007, 06:51 AM) I wonder whether this HSF is more efficient, considering that it has 4 heatpipes..... Yes it is.It's the same as ICE AGE 120. It does perform better than the Xigmatek because you can see for yourself the gap between each heatpipes is a lot smaller compared to Xigmatek. Plus, it has more heatpipe compared to Xigmatek. However, 4 heatpipes would be the limit for HDT based heatsink. 4 heatpipes is enough to fill the whole processor's IHS. |
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QUOTE(sHawTY @ Sep 14 2007, 07:42 AM) Yes it is. correction here.. It's the same as ICE AGE 120. It does perform better than the Xigmatek because you can see for yourself the gap between each heatpipes is a lot smaller compared to Xigmatek. Plus, it has more heatpipe compared to Xigmatek. However, 4 heatpipes would be the limit for HDT based heatsink. 4 heatpipes is enough to fill the whole processor's IHS. 3r iceage performs better than s963 but not s1283 iceage has 4X6mm heatpipes while xigma 963 has 3x6mm heatpipes n smaller cooling tower and iceage has 4x6mm heatpipes while xigma 1283 has 3x8mm heatpipes.. both big n tall cooling tower |
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huh. so many identical or should i say exactly the same cooler. just different label on fan lol. who copy who? O_O
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QUOTE(toughnut @ Sep 14 2007, 10:42 AM) huh. so many identical or should i say exactly the same cooler. just different label on fan lol. who copy who? O_O but the real Q is whether all of them perform as GOOD as XIGMATEK? |
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Sep 14 2007, 02:26 PM
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QUOTE(ckhoong @ Sep 14 2007, 08:44 AM) correction here.. Any comparison on that? 3r iceage performs better than s963 but not s1283 iceage has 4X6mm heatpipes while xigma 963 has 3x6mm heatpipes n smaller cooling tower and iceage has 4x6mm heatpipes while xigma 1283 has 3x8mm heatpipes.. both big n tall cooling tower QUOTE(styloe @ Sep 14 2007, 12:08 PM) but the real Q is whether all of them perform as GOOD as XIGMATEK? LOL! |
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Sep 14 2007, 05:42 PM
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probably xigma (or some company) designed it, then sell the rights to use the design for production to other companies
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Sep 14 2007, 06:47 PM
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QUOTE(ckhoong @ Sep 14 2007, 08:44 AM) correction here.. Any proof to support that statement? |
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so many im confuse too
anyway the ocz are make my xigmatek |
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Sep 14 2007, 07:50 PM
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Sep 14 2007, 07:59 PM
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QUOTE(ckhoong @ Sep 14 2007, 07:50 PM) tauke.. this is the techspec. consult xigmatek web or ...the xigmatek's s1283 members can check out their heatpipes.. izit bigger than others.. use ruler to measure izit 8mm I think what we meant was whether there is any hard data on this...... This post has been edited by kmarc: Sep 14 2007, 08:00 PM |
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QUOTE(ckhoong @ Sep 14 2007, 07:50 PM) tauke.. this is the techspec. consult xigmatek web or ...the xigmatek's s1283 members can check out their heatpipes.. izit bigger than others.. use ruler to measure izit 8mm does the less pipe big diameter VS more pipes smaller diameter matters that much..? From my obvservation the big heatpipes matters on load.. IMHO. |
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QUOTE(kmarc @ Sep 14 2007, 07:59 PM) I think what he meant was whether there is any hard data on this...... Correct.That's what i'm asking for. |
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Sep 14 2007, 11:33 PM
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Sep 14 2007, 11:37 PM
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QUOTE(ckhoong @ Sep 14 2007, 11:33 PM) then take a look I don't see any Ice Age heatsink in there. |
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QUOTE(ckhoong @ Sep 14 2007, 11:55 PM) is there.. take a look the charts at bottom carefully Okay, my mistake, i missed that part.However, we can't just depend on one review. |
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i wonder if TR will produce almost the same as the HDT thingy?ULTRA 120 EXTREME "HDT" edition?walauwei compem ppl selling their heatsink like hot cakes to grab it.
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Sep 15 2007, 08:41 AM
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QUOTE(ckhoong @ Sep 15 2007, 01:06 AM) I still think the DTH is the best air cooler in terms of price/performance. Just wished there were more reviews.....IMO, the 3x8mm would be more efficient rather than the 4x6mm. As you know, the CPU core is located at the centre of the IHS, and as such, heatpipes at the sides will less useful compared to the more centred ones. For the 4x6mm ones, the 2 peripheral heatpipes would be less useful as the centre 2 heatpipes takes the brunt of the heat..... |
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HDT on VGA
but hvn release , no actual pic at the moment. secret product http://www.coolaler.com/~coolaler/forum/sh...t=162292&page=6 |
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QUOTE(likito @ Sep 15 2007, 02:49 PM) HDT on VGA Can't read chinese but i assume you are refering to the zalman. If so then it isn't HDT.but hvn release , no actual pic at the moment. secret product http://www.coolaler.com/~coolaler/forum/sh...t=162292&page=6 Refer here. |
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Oct 6 2007, 10:19 PM
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Finally, a nice comparison between the Xigmatek S1283 vs other top coolers. As expected, it is the best price/performance air cooler around!!!
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/coolers/d...xigmatek_9.html |
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QUOTE(kmarc @ Oct 6 2007, 10:19 PM) Finally, a nice comparison between the Xigmatek S1283 vs other top coolers. As expected, it is the best price/performance air cooler around!!! great read.. http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/coolers/d...xigmatek_9.html |
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lost to thermalright 1-2c but the price can win the thermalright 120ex by RM50++
i would save my RM50 just for that 1-2c different This post has been edited by stevenlee: Oct 10 2007, 07:20 AM |
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QUOTE(Polar_012 @ Sep 15 2007, 07:15 PM) bro is real HDT la .. i'm sure is not zalman vf1000This post has been edited by likito: Nov 6 2007, 04:26 PM |
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Sorry for pump up the old thread~
Would like to ask those who using XIGMATEK HDT-S1283. Before u guys mount the cooler on the mobo, u guys apply the TIM on the base of the cooler, or is on the IHS of processor? Which method will give a better result? So far, I just tried by apply TIM on the cooler's base, because if I apply it on processor's IHS, the TIM can't spread nicely... Any recommendations? |
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QUOTE(RokXIII @ Jan 20 2008, 03:39 PM) Sorry for pump up the old thread~ How do u apply TIM on the cooler base before fixing it on the proc? -.-Would like to ask those who using XIGMATEK HDT-S1283. Before u guys mount the cooler on the mobo, u guys apply the TIM on the base of the cooler, or is on the IHS of processor? Which method will give a better result? So far, I just tried by apply TIM on the cooler's base, because if I apply it on processor's IHS, the TIM can't spread nicely... Any recommendations? |
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make sure three heatpipes got contact with the TIM.
i'm using my very own method, one big drop on the middle then two tiny drops on both sides of IHS. this is the latest product from Xigmatek. ![]() it's ES though. the heatpipes might have problem to get contact with gpu core which is getting smaller size these days. This post has been edited by sukhoi37: Jan 20 2008, 04:48 PM |
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QUOTE(IcEMoCHa @ Jan 20 2008, 03:51 PM) just simply apply it lo~y not? worry the TIM will drop? QUOTE(sukhoi37 @ Jan 20 2008, 04:39 PM) make sure three heatpipes got contact with the TIM. Well, I dun really get what u mean. So, u are applying the TIM on the Proc IHS instead of the cooler base, right? But, how we can 100% make sure that the heatpipes got contact with the TIM? Unless we apply it on the base of cooler...i'm using my very own method, one big drop on the middle then two tiny drops on both sides of IHS. this is the latest product from Xigmatek. » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « it's ES though. the heatpipes might have problem to get contact with gpu core which is getting smaller size these days. Btw, thanks for ur opinion. This post has been edited by RokXIII: Jan 20 2008, 05:12 PM |
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QUOTE(RokXIII @ Jan 20 2008, 05:11 PM) just simply apply it lo~ i applied TIM on the processor IHS.y not? worry the TIM will drop? Well, I dun really get what u mean. So, u are applying the TIM on the Proc IHS instead of the cooler base, right? But, how we can 100% make sure that the heatpipes got contact with the TIM? Unless we apply it on the base of cooler... Btw, thanks for ur opinion. one big drop(size of a rice grain) on the middle and two tiny ones near to the each end. This post has been edited by sukhoi37: Jan 20 2008, 07:05 PM |
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