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DTH heatsink discussion!, vs tower and ultra 120
DTH heatsink discussion!, vs tower and ultra 120
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May 29 2007, 10:51 PM
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Elite
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Silver is not the best heat conductor. See here : http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/tables/thrcn.html
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May 30 2007, 11:29 AM
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Elite
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QUOTE(DaRkSyThE @ May 30 2007, 10:35 AM) there is a diff between conductivity and atrractivity. think bout it. if copper is better, then why are the fins aluminium? this is because of its ability to extract heat ahd disperse it quickly QUOTE(sup3rfly @ May 30 2007, 10:54 AM) copper is good in absorbing heat but its very hard to disperse heat... at least harder than alu, thats the reason why they use alu fins... i think that the reason Ok, back to physics 101.well here is my logic... the copper base and heatpipe absorb the heat from the processor and then transfer them to the alu fin and the fan will cool down the fins.... correct me if i am wrong Copper is superior to aluminium in terms of heat conduction (Thermal conduction) Aluminium is superior to copper in terms of heat absorption/dispersion (specific heat) Refer to the following hyperlinks: http://www.ee.byu.edu/cleanroom/thermal_properties.phtml http://www.answers.com/topic/specific-heat-capacity Aluminium & copper heatsink (This is interesting!!!) Summary : Copper for the base to collect the heat quickly. Aluminium for the fins to get rid of it. P.S. Yahoo! My noctua is in this setup!!!! This post has been edited by kmarc: May 30 2007, 11:33 AM |
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May 31 2007, 07:28 AM
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Elite
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QUOTE(ronho @ May 30 2007, 09:37 PM) wow, does this mean that the base in contact with gc is copper and the fins aluminium will give the best2 heat dissipitation? Read all yr previous remarks but nobody came outright to say which configuration is best.... That's true. We're already into discussion about thermodynamics!!!The discussions were theorectical and what we need are hard facts. If two heatsink of identical design, heatpipes + aluminium fins and heatpipes + copper fins (disregarding weight), who would win? Any data? |
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Jun 1 2007, 02:53 PM
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Elite
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This cooler has a lot of space between the heatpipes and the heatsink base (especially at the base). Would it help if these dead spaces were closed up? I mean solder it up or put thermal paste?
As with other heatsinks, I notice there is a flat surface at the base. Have been wondering whether cooling would be improved if one were to stick a heatsink over the base.... |
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Jun 1 2007, 07:30 PM
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Elite
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Errr.... the link is to a sony mp3 player la
One thing about this cooler is the uneven distribution of heat. I mean, since aluminium is different to copper in terms of heat conductivity and heat specific, this would create different temperature on the IHS. You know, one stripe of hotter area and one stripe of cooler area. Well, I guess not so much on the proc itself as the IHS is the one with differential temperature but would it be good for the proc? |
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Jun 1 2007, 08:13 PM
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Elite
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QUOTE(LittleLinnet @ Jun 1 2007, 07:55 PM) Heatsink with flat surface, even you put a heatsink on it, it wouldn't help much, unless you put a fan on there. I was just wondering about that. However, I just can't put my hand on the base of my noctua heatsink to see whether it is hot to touch or not (no space!!!). If it is hot, I believe that another heatsink would help.....@lohwenli - aiyoo! I don't mean using a stove to heat up the heatsink for soldering la!!! What I mean was using a soldering iron....... This post has been edited by kmarc: Jun 1 2007, 08:14 PM |
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Jul 8 2007, 12:13 PM
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Elite
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Jul 8 2007, 07:07 PM
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Elite
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Jul 9 2007, 04:13 PM
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Elite
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QUOTE(MakNok @ Jul 9 2007, 03:54 PM) damn, Wah! 10'c lower than the HR-01!!!i found out that the Xigmatek perform much much betther if i open my side casing!!!! Idle at 3040Ghz(E6400) at 36 to 39C Orthos Load show at 50 to 55C......quite good as compared to my "modification HR-01" which show 60 to 65C.. all using thermal paste AS5. Where did you get your xigmatek? For how much? Is it the S1283 or the S983? Errr..... any heatsink would perform better without the side casing la.... |
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Jul 9 2007, 08:17 PM
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Elite
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QUOTE(ckhoong @ Jul 9 2007, 06:53 PM) he bought s963.. |
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Jul 9 2007, 10:55 PM
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Elite
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@MakNok, thx for the feedback! I can't wait to get my hands on the xigmatek S1293!!!
QUOTE(MakNok @ Jul 9 2007, 10:35 PM) Maybe my defective HR-01 isn't performing as expected but i remember clearly that the result doesn't differ much even if the original height for this HR-01 is still intact.. Wahlioa! So brave aaa..... If you happen to rupture the heatpipes, then the heatsink would be so defective!!!just taken a risk to dismantle some of the aluminium fins and i bend the the end rod as u can see. Using longnose plier,,,i twist and turn and using cutter as well. and u can see my masterpiece!! QUOTE(Polar_012 @ Jul 9 2007, 10:40 PM) I can't tell how much of a difference but there would be loss in performance as less heat would get dissipated due to less number of fins. I think if he just remove a few of the top fins, it won't make much of a difference. The reason is that the top fins are usually cool! Even on my noctua, at core temp of 60'c, the top fins are still cool..... |
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Jul 10 2007, 03:13 PM
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Elite
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QUOTE(MakNok @ Jul 10 2007, 08:31 AM) Oops...think my heatsink is doomed alreadi. Hey, if you're seriously thinking about experimenting, here's a suggestion to see whether the heatpipes work or not.forgot to bring the heatsink to working place. it survive another day!! Just saw off all the top tubings, you know, like your broken tubing. Then turn it upside down just to make sure there's nothing in it. If your theory is right, then the heatsink will still function as before..... This post has been edited by kmarc: Jul 10 2007, 03:14 PM |
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Jul 10 2007, 07:18 PM
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Elite
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Alright! Here's another review of the xigmatek S963. Not a bad performer considering that it is the 92mm version.
I wished there were other reviews on the S1263..... http://www.frostytech.com/articleview.cfm?...eid=2134&page=1 |
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Jul 10 2007, 10:46 PM
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Elite
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Nice. The HSF looks nice but your lighting is superb! Like professional photographer!!!
Err.... the temperature is for the S963 or S1283? |
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Jul 11 2007, 09:48 PM
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Elite
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QUOTE(ckhoong @ Jul 10 2007, 11:11 PM) i'm bringing in the retail units soon.. come come join my bulk.. So can lend us the samples for review aaa? samples are meant for reviews n testing ho.. manufacture will get mad if im selling it Bulk is a bit slow la. Maybe you should put it in your sig so that other people can see. |
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Jul 17 2007, 10:47 AM
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Elite
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Jul 17 2007, 12:15 PM
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Jul 26 2007, 11:02 PM
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Elite
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Here's a new review on the xigmatek S963 : http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/coolers/d...k-hdt-s963.html
It even beats a scythe infinity in a closed system case (although needed higher fan speed). Remember that this is the 90mm version with only 3x 6mm heatpipes. The authors did conclude that the S963 heat dissipating area was not large enough to accomodate the Q6600..... Can't wait to see the review on the 120mm version (Xigmatek S1863) with it's larger surface area, 120mm fan and 3x 8mm heatpipes! |
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Jul 28 2007, 07:26 PM
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Elite
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Here's another review in German! Includes the Xigmatek S1283, TR 120-ultra extreme and water-cooling. Really exciting to know the performance of DTH coolers!
http://www.hartware.de/review_723_7.html I've taken the liberty to translate the words (from google translater) although I wished there was a review in English!!! Messwerte - Measurements K = Kelvin (dunno why use kelvin instead of celsius Wasserkühler - water-cooling Ultra-Silent Luftkühler - ultra-silent air-cooler Non-Silent Luftkühler Beispiele - non-silent air-cooling (? at 100% fan speed) Geräusch - noise deutlich hörbar - clearly audible Sortierung nach besten Differenzwert unter Last - Difference in temperature under load ??? Raumtemperatur - ambient temperature Anybody who know german pls translate the conclusion!!! This post has been edited by kmarc: Jul 28 2007, 07:35 PM Attached thumbnail(s) |
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Aug 3 2007, 01:49 PM
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Elite
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QUOTE(toughnut @ Aug 3 2007, 11:36 AM) use google la bro, LOL. I did use google translator on the conclusion!!! I actually wanted to paste that translation but eventually decided not to. However, the translation was adequate enough to gather some conclusions on the S1293.http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=e...cial%26hs%3Dm4S If that make any sense to u... It seem like it's on par with Ultra120X Added on August 3, 2007, 11:45 ambtw, ckhoong, u also sell that AIO Xigmatek? TEC right? how much? |
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