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 Ultimate Discussions of ASNB Fixed Price UT, Magical UT only in Malaysia

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jorgsacul
post Aug 25 2019, 05:15 PM

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Just for those who are new, dividend won’t go up anymore cuz PNB keep on seeking to increase the size of fund rather than payout. Unless market suddenly up like crazy, else u just averaging same amount of layout yearly.

Example, this year u share with a pool of 100k, next year after dividend could be 110k. So u will get lesser by the year in reality.
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post Aug 25 2019, 05:59 PM

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QUOTE(jorgsacul @ Aug 25 2019, 05:15 PM)
Just for those who are new, dividend won’t go up anymore cuz PNB keep on seeking to increase the size of fund rather than payout. Unless market suddenly up like crazy, else u just averaging same amount of layout yearly.

Example, this year u share with a pool of 100k, next year after dividend could be 110k. So u will get lesser by the year in reality.
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But isnt the larger the fund size, the larger the amount of return, while the return/no. shareholders remain constant.

This post has been edited by INTEGRITYXXXXX: Aug 25 2019, 06:05 PM
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post Aug 25 2019, 06:12 PM

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QUOTE(Orchid beauty @ Aug 25 2019, 08:08 AM)
Last few days to top up ASM .
It's getting more competition. So far 1k so good.
ASM3 is the worst. Less established. More risky.

Go for ASM & ASM 2 only.
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please state your argument point?
want to compare if we same page or not icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Aug 25 2019, 06:19 PM

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QUOTE(INTEGRITYXXXXX @ Aug 25 2019, 05:59 PM)
But isnt the larger the fund size, the larger the amount of return, while the return/no. shareholders remain constant.
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Simple math. Denominator getting bigger ... average per unit smaller
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post Aug 25 2019, 07:00 PM

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QUOTE(jorgsacul @ Aug 25 2019, 06:19 PM)
Units kawan not holder
Simple math. Denominator getting bigger ... average per unit smaller
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While I agree that more units means less dividend per unit, I think the reason is because PNB cannot maintain the high investment return with additional funds, ie the return is not scalable.

Unless PNB did not do anything with the additional funds, then yes denominator getting bigger and return stays the same.
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post Aug 25 2019, 07:04 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Aug 25 2019, 06:12 PM)
please state your argument point?
want to compare if we same page or not  icon_rolleyes.gif
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I guess the comment (...ASM3) sound degrading or not nice to hear, and it might broke anyone's heart for those who invested heavily on it. And there goes the transfer/swith option that ASNB are glad to introduce this(earning mass services fee). Captch on ASM and ASM2 more competitors after that. laugh.gif

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post Aug 25 2019, 08:16 PM

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Actually what people need to do is compare the shareholding of each ASM to see if it's really riskier.

ASM 3 Risky or not, I bet those who qualifies for Indian reserved quota and Adam 50 will still buy. I underweight ASM 3 purely because no quota is given to me + 1malaysia branding + it was quite easy to buy back then.

% of return will go lower or not is subjected to market condition. ASN can reinvest the dividend they receive for more dividend too. What we are lacking is a huge market swing. Imagine KLSE drop 50% and ASN sell high buy low, then KLSE recover. Another way is what our expert said - start investing abroad like EPF. Zeti said they are exploring that option.

QUOTE(nexona88 @ Aug 25 2019, 06:12 PM)
please state your argument point?
want to compare if we same page or not  icon_rolleyes.gif
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I thought she just did. Her point is "less
established", i.e still new. So it's riskier.

The fund is new, but the fund manager is not.

This post has been edited by beLIEve: Aug 25 2019, 08:26 PM
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post Aug 25 2019, 10:11 PM

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Unable to fish any past few days with spamming captcha.. seems like impossible to get any currently
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QUOTE(vincentcwc92 @ Aug 25 2019, 10:11 PM)
Unable to fish any past few days with spamming captcha.. seems like impossible to get any currently
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Yesterday market not officially open. Don't know why it allows people to try buy.

Today only Kelantan and terengganu open. Traditionally, weekends are difficult to buy.

Friday was difficult. My worst performance in months. See tomorrow how loh.
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post Aug 25 2019, 10:33 PM

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I thought Sunday open for all? Why only Kelantan and Terengganu?

Sry new to ASNB fund
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post Aug 25 2019, 10:46 PM

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Wrong post

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post Aug 25 2019, 10:56 PM

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QUOTE(vincentcwc92 @ Aug 25 2019, 10:33 PM)
I thought Sunday open for all? Why only Kelantan and Terengganu?

Sry new to ASNB fund
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Open for all but how are people going to sell when most banks not open?

Weekends can buy ASB 1 2 3 if you qualify. Or if there happen to be some non bumi selling.

A lot of people tested already. Weekends almost impossible. Once a blue moon, ASN did some sale though.
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post Aug 25 2019, 11:00 PM

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Wawasan 2020 dividend is approaching, what can we expect?

Any tips on strategy in fishing after announcement? Best days to catch and amounts?
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post Aug 25 2019, 11:21 PM

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QUOTE(TheEquatorian @ Aug 25 2019, 11:00 PM)
Wawasan 2020 dividend is approaching, what can we expect?

Any tips on strategy in fishing after announcement? Best days to catch and amounts?
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Just try 30k a pop on Sept 3.
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post Aug 26 2019, 11:03 AM

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Cawangan ASNB Kota Kinabalu, Sabah kini beroperasi di lokasi baharu seperti berikut :

TINGKAT BAWAH & SATU
NO A-G-18 & A-1-18, BLOK A
SUTERA AVENUE, JALAN COASTAL
88100 KOTA KINABALU
SABAH

New Branch Location 😁
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post Aug 26 2019, 11:22 AM

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sifu sifu, want to ask something.

let says u have Indian quota RM30K and fully utilized .and one day i sell 10K , can i buy back 10K in the future as part of quota again or its just gone forever.( let assume indian quota not fully utlised yet)
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post Aug 26 2019, 11:53 AM

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QUOTE(beLIEve @ Aug 25 2019, 11:21 PM)
Just try 30k a pop on Sept 3.
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Thanks. Is MyASNB captcha still the best method in your opinion?
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post Aug 26 2019, 12:27 PM

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QUOTE(TheEquatorian @ Aug 26 2019, 11:53 AM)
Thanks. Is MyASNB captcha still the best method in your opinion?
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post Aug 26 2019, 12:57 PM

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CIMB Clicks can't transfer any money out. Damn. Lost my fish.
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QUOTE(JeffryKL @ Aug 26 2019, 11:22 AM)
sifu sifu, want to ask something.

let says u have Indian quota RM30K  and fully utilized .and one day i sell 10K  , can i buy  back 10K in the future as part of quota again or its just gone forever.( let assume indian quota not fully utlised yet)
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logically speaking.. yes. since your balance is lower than 30k biggrin.gif

but before u make the move.. double confirmed with ASNB officers first... suddenly change of policies / U Turn tongue.gif

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