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direwolf
post Sep 30 2007, 08:49 AM

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QUOTE(leongtat @ Sep 27 2007, 10:24 PM)
hei got a F-15D Eagles....
was wondering wat are the basic color that i can get for my aircraft...
i duwan spend too much on the color thou im a newbie
any idea?
thx for ur comment.
rm5.90 per bottle i guess is cheap but how long the paint will last..
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Depending on how you use and store the paint, it can actually last for quite some time. My bottle of Mr Color H308, which is used on almost all air-to-air missiles and modern US aircraft color can be used for oh...6 planes in 1/72 scale.

Basic colors for the F-15D (assuming you're building the USAF one)
FS36320
FS36375
FS36231 (cockpit)
white
black
silver
burnt iron
clear red
clear blue (or green)
leongtat
post Sep 30 2007, 11:54 AM

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hei thx direwolf...
will start my painting soon
haha wish me good luck
anyway wat color u use for missle?
or juz dun paint?
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post Sep 30 2007, 12:20 PM

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Hey guys... ive got a question..

Mr. Colour : No.183 - Super Clear Gray Tone (Flat Clear)
No.182 - Super Flat (clear)
No.181 - Super Semi Gloss (clear)

Wat are these for ? Since they are '' clear '' paints... i assume they can act as top coats ? hmm.gif

And by the way... XL shop doesnt ship Mr Hobby Top Coat cans ( the one for protecting ur figures after painting )... im having a problem getting it in Penang area... Currently finding an alternative to protect my painted figures. cry.gif
Any ideas ?




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QUOTE(noob4life @ Sep 30 2007, 12:20 PM)
Hey guys... ive got a question..

Mr. Colour : No.183 - Super Clear Gray Tone (Flat Clear)
                  No.182 - Super Flat (clear)
                  No.181 - Super Semi Gloss (clear)

Wat are these for ? Since they are '' clear '' paints... i assume they can act as top coats ?  hmm.gif

And by the way... XL shop doesnt ship Mr Hobby Top Coat cans ( the one for protecting ur figures after painting )... im having a problem getting it in Penang area... Currently finding an alternative to protect my painted figures.  cry.gif
Any ideas ?
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Yup, they're top coat. Be a bit careful with the Flat Clear (no.183) though, as its got a habit of frosting over (and totally ruining your work) if you spray too much too quickly at once.

One method that I had discovered to get around this problem is to use a 50/50 mix of no.182 and no.183. This will still give me the matt finishing that I'm after, but prevents the frosting effect.
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post Sep 30 2007, 02:54 PM

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topcoat oso doesn't protect ur figures permanently... like my strike freedom, the color seems to be fade by time.
but tat oso depends on the usage of topcoat i guess.....n i heard clear coat works better than topcoat, izit true???

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QUOTE(ShinAsakura @ Sep 30 2007, 02:54 PM)
topcoat oso doesn't protect ur figures permanently... like my strike freedom, the color seems to be fade by time.
but tat oso depends on the usage of topcoat i guess.....n i heard clear coat works better than topcoat, izit true???
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Topcoat and clearcoat r basically the same thing. Both are for the same purposes, of providing that final coating to your model (in your choice of either gloss or matt). Just that different manufacturers tend to use different terminology to describe their products, and the difference is more to do with the quality differences between the different brands.
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Wat happens if i PAINT the clear coats ( 181, 182 or 183 ) on my figures insteead of airbrushing them ?
Airbrushes are WAY out of my budget.. tongue.gif

Painting it over works fine too rite ? hmm.gif
Thnx for all the replies, btw.

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QUOTE(noob4life @ Sep 30 2007, 09:12 PM)
Wat happens if i PAINT the clear coats ( 181, 182 or 183 ) on my figures insteead of airbrushing them ? 
Airbrushes are WAY out of my budget..  tongue.gif

Painting it over works fine too rite ?  hmm.gif
Thnx for all the replies, btw.
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haha i want to know as well ^.^
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QUOTE(noob4life @ Sep 30 2007, 09:12 PM)
Wat happens if i PAINT the clear coats ( 181, 182 or 183 ) on my figures insteead of airbrushing them ? 
Airbrushes are WAY out of my budget..  tongue.gif

Painting it over works fine too rite ?  hmm.gif
Thnx for all the replies, btw.
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hmm.. no clue really. I've only used acrylics for hand painting, not lacquers. You can still hand paint those lacquer topcoats I guess, but the problem that you'll face is the fast drying nature of lacquer based paints, resulting in it being difficult to get an even coat when handpainted. Adding thinner and retarder to slow the drying down might result in you stripping off the layer of paint under, or even damage the plastic if the mixture dries too slowly.

check and see if Mr. Hobby has got clear coats in acrylic versions or not. Those r the ones with the flat caps, instead of the mohawk looking ones.
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actually people never handpaint clear paint/coat...people either ab it or straight buy topcoat...

clear paint also been use for those wet effect on diorama...this effect people only do it with handpaint...then only can get those nice wet effect on the surface...

i dont think its a good idea to handpaint clear paint for coating purposes you might end up ruin your whole kit.

and like fyire said you might also strip off the paint underneath when you handpaint...and not to mention the decal also.
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yalor yalor.. like wat fyire n vincC said, if ony clear coating.. better can spray rather than handpaint.

volume to volume, the price for can spray is not rili far from bottle one..
but just becareful when the paint u want to cover with topcoat is acrylic (esp. the aqueous type one), start with light spray first, if spray too fast and thick paint, ur underneath paint is gonna smear like hell..
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Maybe u get wax effect!!! see how ur kit shine!!!
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post Oct 1 2007, 06:18 PM

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QUOTE(erh_teo @ Oct 1 2007, 02:53 PM)
yalor yalor.. like wat fyire n vincC said, if ony clear coating.. better can spray rather than handpaint.

volume to volume, the price for can spray is not rili far from bottle one..
but just becareful when the paint u want to cover with topcoat is acrylic (esp. the aqueous type one), start with light spray first, if spray too fast and thick paint, ur underneath paint is gonna smear like hell..
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Lol the problem is not the price... is the availability... penang area hard to get topcoat. XL shop not selling the topcoat cans also... Dillema. rclxub.gif
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post Oct 1 2007, 06:49 PM

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Oo tot u go to komptar there got 1 hobbycore shop at lvl 2 near at the end of the side got still sell those thing
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post Oct 3 2007, 07:11 PM

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Ya lo...Penang any shop got sell top coat? shocking.gif

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want to know... any recommendation on wad kind of paint (else than gundam markers) is suitable for gundam?


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post Oct 3 2007, 10:36 PM

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QUOTE(SWATwolf @ Oct 3 2007, 07:23 PM)
want to know... any recommendation on wad kind of paint (else than gundam markers) is suitable for gundam?
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wat kinda of supply u can find? mind listing them out? like tamiya, MR Hobby/Gunze ... lagi?
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post Oct 4 2007, 12:08 AM

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from here... all I see is mostly gundam markers,
the rest tamiya and mr.hobby are very little.
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QUOTE(SWATwolf @ Oct 4 2007, 12:08 AM)
from here... all I see is mostly gundam markers,
the rest tamiya and mr.hobby are very little.
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if u a noobie/beginner then Gumdam MArker is your best bet ..
unless you interested in Hand Painting and AirBrushing...
For Hand Brushing u need to look for MrHobby and Leveling Thinner ...
For AirBrushing u need even more stuff ...

others. just remember b4 u trial and Error ah ... do alot of reading/researching fisrt coz some Paint/Thinner will eat plastic oh ...
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looks like some one in the KL should start an online shop business for hobby tools.

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