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post Sep 27 2007, 01:23 AM

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QUOTE(leongtat @ Sep 27 2007, 12:56 AM)
thx duke_hunt
yeah i know
but somtimes there is some sempit place where u cant paint
so i juz afraid after i assemble everything i will ruin some small part when i try to reach it for painting.
or i assemble half and den paint it half?
hehe sorry im a noob
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remember when the guy at the shop mentioned about planning? This' where the planning bit comes in. For a model plane, its a bit tougher than the normal mecha kits such as the Gundams and so forth, as they require glue to hold together. Thus u're gonna have a tough time taking it apart, unlike the Gundam kits which can be snap fitted.

So basically what u need to do is to plan a bit. When putting your kit together, whenever possible, don't glue as yet. Just fit the pieces together, hold it that way with your hands, and study it with your eyeballs hunting for locations difficult to paint should u r to glue the parts at that locations together before painting.

I've not done a plane in ages, in fact, the last non-mecha I've done was a Hind Helicopter, but from what I remember, the first thing usually will be the cockpit. That part, I tend to paint as I assemble, due to the small pieces in there making it difficult to reach even with the smallest brush should the painting be done after the assembly. So for complex parts that consists of many small parts such as the cockpit, or the landing gear, or the weapons, I paint before assembly. For the larger surface areas where I can paint easily, those are the spots that I'll paint after assembly (after assembling the plane body, but I'll only attach the rest of the already painted stuff such as the missles or landing gear to the body after I'm done painting the body, to minimize the chances of accidents).
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post Sep 27 2007, 12:46 PM

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leongtat: Hi, scale model(the more traditional way of saying it) is not snap fit, as you've already know. I think most important is your planning. But a OBB assembly is almost a must if you wanna do any planing. Usually my way is to use masking tape and hold the whole thing together first then will plan which will have to be done first. Like cockpit for example usually i will color it first before i putty the body.

Guess u r right, half way assemble half painting, cause there are certain parts you can't airbrush nor paint with great accuracy if you have already glue the whole thing together - like the engine, unless you do some modification, cause some model your cant put the engine in once you have glued the body. assemble the whole kit first, carefully study the whole thing, plan out your steps! Of course for the first few kits you might have this problem when you r doing half way and realise, "Sh*t, i shud have painted this part first kinda thing. The more experience you have the easier you will find yourself in planning such steps.

Happy modelling! biggrin.gif
leongtat
post Sep 27 2007, 02:19 PM

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thx guyz for ur advice
anyway wat is OBB? hehe i noob
erm i think i will start planning...
as u guyz say the more failure u got the more success u have later...
thx
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post Sep 27 2007, 02:40 PM

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Out Of Box...or build exactly like the one show on the box cover
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post Sep 27 2007, 02:55 PM

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thx bro....finally i get it...
for a beginner wat paint do u think is good?
i heard that using arcylic is good...
but wat are the brand that is good for a newbie?
i mean here is duwan to be too exp but good enuff
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post Sep 27 2007, 05:26 PM

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QUOTE(leongtat @ Sep 27 2007, 02:55 PM)
thx bro....finally i get it...
for a beginner wat paint do u think is good?
i heard that using arcylic is good...
but wat are the brand that is good for a newbie?
i mean here is duwan to be too exp but good enuff
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If you're handpainting, use acrylics. If airbrushing, use lacquers.

Mr Hobby's pretty good for both their acrylics and lacquers. Just keep in mind that u get the right types of paints (Mr. Hobby Acrylics are the ones with the flat cap, while Mr. Hobby lacquers are the ones with the mohawk looking cap). Quite a few ppl here had made the mistake of getting the wrong type of paint from Mr Hobby.
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post Sep 27 2007, 08:32 PM

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fyire thx alot...i get it now...
hehe anyway how much is per paint cost ar?
n where i can get it?
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post Sep 27 2007, 10:06 PM

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can get it fr XL-shop (4th floor) or TimeMachine(7th floor) in Berjaya Times Square.
(LOL...i used full names).

XL selling RM5.90 each i think...while TM i'm not sure. price mayb differ for the type of colors gua..... unsure.gif

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post Sep 27 2007, 10:24 PM

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hei got a F-15D Eagles....
was wondering wat are the basic color that i can get for my aircraft...
i duwan spend too much on the color thou im a newbie
any idea?
thx for ur comment.
rm5.90 per bottle i guess is cheap but how long the paint will last..
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post Sep 28 2007, 12:55 AM

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will laquers damage certain parts of gundam kits if i wanna airbrush?

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post Sep 28 2007, 01:10 AM

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QUOTE(zheyuen @ Sep 28 2007, 12:55 AM)
will laquers damage certain parts of gundam kits if i wanna airbrush?
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modeling lacquer/solvent based wont do any harm on the plastics, its the solvent that will harm the plastics...
it is advisable to use the same brand of solvent for your colors, its a safety measure of course...
some have good results using off the shelves solvent for Mr Hobby lacquer paint such as industrial thinner as it is cheap if u compare it with Mr Hobby Thinner or Leveling Thinner..
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post Sep 28 2007, 11:58 AM

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Can Airbrush use together with the industri compressor?
My brother factory have one compressor... I am thinking buy one airbrush to paint my baby...!
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QUOTE(loon1031 @ Sep 28 2007, 11:58 AM)
Can Airbrush use together with the industri compressor?
My brother factory have one compressor... I am thinking buy one airbrush to paint my baby...!
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well as i kno comprssor have strong chamical tat may harm plastic which i not so sure if u can use tat. i scare tat later u spray halfway seeing ur gundam fall to pieces or melted into pile of junk XD
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QUOTE(chriswoo @ Sep 28 2007, 12:12 PM)
well as i kno comprssor have strong chamical tat may harm plastic which i not so sure if u can use tat. i scare tat later u spray halfway seeing ur gundam fall to pieces or melted into pile of junk XD
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Oh... No using chemical le....
My brother's compressor is using for airgun to clean the dust on the product one... ohmy.gif
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post Sep 28 2007, 12:47 PM

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yisk clean dust compressor got very high pressure wor later break ur gundam parts unless ur airbrush got good adjustment. i hope the compressor is not like i saw in the motorshop 1 rite?

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QUOTE(chriswoo @ Sep 28 2007, 12:47 PM)
yisk clean dust compressor got very high pressure wor later break ur gundam parts unless ur airbrush got good adjustment. i hope the compressor is not like i saw in the motorshop 1 rite?
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actually, those compressors just mainly shoot out air, so dun need to worry about chemicals. Furthermore, even if its one of those in the car workshops, its not really that much of a problem lar.. U should be able to adjust the pressure of the air coming out. and if u need to fine tune somemore, then just attach a smaller pressure gauge somewhere in the middle before the air feed reaches your AB.
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QUOTE(fyire @ Sep 28 2007, 01:02 PM)
actually, those compressors just mainly shoot out air, so dun need to worry about chemicals. Furthermore, even if its one of those in the car workshops, its not really that much of a problem lar.. U should be able to adjust the pressure of the air coming out. and if u need to fine tune somemore, then just attach a smaller pressure gauge somewhere in the middle before the air feed reaches your AB.
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oo tat nice for assuring XD got sifu AB then nice to get advice from him ^.^

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post Sep 28 2007, 02:36 PM

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hey guys, i pretty sure i'm not suppose to post this here. but i'm also pretty sure posting this in garage sales is pretty pointless laugh.gif.

anyway. anyone happened to have an unused eva-01 LMHG? i broke the jaw off mine a few months back and am looking for spare parts. by spare parts i mean not new. i'm looking for either jaw only, whole head or whole set at cheap price. yes, i'll pay for the jaw biggrin.gif.
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QUOTE(zeroglyph @ Sep 28 2007, 02:36 PM)
hey guys, i pretty sure i'm not suppose to post this here. but i'm also pretty sure posting this in garage sales is pretty pointless laugh.gif.

anyway. anyone happened to have an unused eva-01 LMHG? i broke the jaw off mine a few months back and am looking for spare parts. by spare parts i mean not new. i'm looking for either jaw only, whole head or whole set at cheap price. yes, i'll pay for the jaw biggrin.gif.
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1) at least u post a link here to ur WTB (what to buy) thread. that shud b fine i guess laugh.gif


depend on the severity of the damage, it could be repaired smile.gif
so..

2) show us pic oso.
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post Sep 28 2007, 07:47 PM

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QUOTE(erh_teo @ Sep 28 2007, 05:30 PM)
1) at least u post a link here to ur WTB (what to buy) thread. that shud b fine i guess laugh.gif
depend on the severity of the damage, it could be repaired smile.gif
so..

2) show us pic oso.
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i honestly don't know how to address the WTB thread laugh.gif.

i don't have a digicam, and my phone cam is just too lousy to capture such small parts. it's the lower jaw. got careless with it and broke the joints where it's connected to the head. i've tried fixing it, but it's not perfect. there's a gap now between the jaws.

it's not too severe since it's a hidden part, but it's hard to fix as it is so freaking small. it's not too noticeable, but it kinda bump me out.

so anyone wanna sell me some spare parts? blush.gif

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