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sooyewguan
post Jul 31 2007, 12:08 AM

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hi, I am looking for a chrome paint but the closest i can find is metallic silver.

Anyone know how to get better results than metallic silver ?
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post Aug 6 2007, 02:35 PM

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Hi, I just wanna make something clear before start painting my first tank model. After reading posting from all expert here, I concluded the steps as below.

Step 1: Prime
Paint use: Mr Color Prime 1000, 1200, Tamiya Prime etc.

Step 2: Base Color
Paint use: Lacquer type

Step 3: Weathering
Paint use: Acrylic type

Step 4: TopCoat

There is an enamel type and saw someone use it for weathering also. Please correct me if i am wrong.
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post Aug 6 2007, 06:06 PM

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QUOTE(VincC454 @ Aug 6 2007, 03:50 PM)
its actually a mr surfacer 500/1000/1200

and actually whatever type of paint also can...doesnt mean only can us lacquer type

do weathering is a hard stuff...especially when you never done it before...so take it slowly

and for tank model...better make sure u topcoat it with flat
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QUOTE(StormV @ Aug 6 2007, 05:19 PM)
I think it is best to use lacquer as base, and enamel for weathering. Coz, u can use Zippo fluid(substitute for enamel thinner) to perform wash technique, and the Zippo fluid won't react to lacquer base and it won't crack plastic.

Of coz u can use Acrylic as weathering but u need to get acrylic thinner to perform wash.

and u can try chalk pastel as weathering tool, it work great on tanks~!!!

hope this help~!! and happy modeling~!!
thank you. i heard bout chalk pastel for weathering but never saw the real thing before. is it the same chalk that use in the class room or special for modelling only ? where do they usually sold ?

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post Aug 7 2007, 01:59 PM

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How bout using AB like this ? think will reduce the clog
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post Aug 7 2007, 02:38 PM

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QUOTE(VincC454 @ Aug 7 2007, 02:32 PM)
^ thing the same problem happens to all type of AB..the clog happen at the tips end of the gun...so wherever the feeding cup is located also..think it wont solve the problem primer clogging the AB
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i see, thought it was bcoz of neddle to cause to clog. thanks

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post Aug 10 2007, 12:12 AM

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sand the uneven/unsmooth surface
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post Aug 10 2007, 01:08 PM

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Just wanna share this information. If you are confused which types of paint to be used in your model, this might help
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post Aug 12 2007, 10:02 PM

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i just primed my model, but the surface turn out to be a bit sandy (not smooth), which can be felt with my hands.

I wonder is this normal or something wrong i did. I use bottle tamiya primer thinned with 3:2 ratio with lacquar thinner.

do i need to sand it before i start painting ? thanks
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post Aug 15 2007, 10:12 AM

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This is what I used so far.

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post Aug 15 2007, 11:46 AM

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This is a nice hobby, I am still painting my first model. Really got a lots of things to learn.

Check this page if u wan to learn more about which paint to use

http://www.naritafamily.com/howto/paint.htm
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post Aug 17 2007, 12:50 PM

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i am stuck with my tank model as i not sure which should i paint next. pls advice

this was painted using lacquer paint.
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post Aug 17 2007, 11:43 PM

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QUOTE(VincC454 @ Aug 17 2007, 01:52 PM)
lol...it still looks toyish..
time for weathering already now...go get those chalk pastel already
or the easy way...those tamiya weathering kit

oh yea...you can also use white color pencil to make a scratch marks on your tank
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Thanks, but should I spray the topcoat first or do weathering first ?
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post Aug 23 2007, 12:10 AM

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QUOTE(blurkia @ Aug 22 2007, 11:59 PM)
Can someone confirm wif me again the steps are as following?

i) Cut out the plastic piece from the runner

ii) Sand it with grade 400 first then proceed with either 600 or 800 grade paper

iii) Apply Mr Surfacer which is a primer (not very sure what is the difference between Mr Surface 500/1000/1200)

iv) Start painting (it's okay to use Acrylic type?)

v) Weathering (chalk pastel will do fine rite?)

vi) Put on the decal?

vii) Apply Topcoat (Flat version if u prefer dull and glossy if u like shinny)

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i) Cut out the plastic piece from the runner
Guess everyone start with this one hmm.gif

ii) Sand it with grade 400 first then proceed with either 600 or 800 grade paper
i used 600 and then 1500/2000. normally finished up using art knife first before sanding.

iii) Apply Mr Surfacer which is a primer (not very sure what is the difference between Mr Surface 500/1000/1200)
bigger the number, smaller the paint particles and get smoother surface

iv) Start painting (it's okay to use Acrylic type?)
i start with lacquer. acrylic should be working too.

v) Weathering (chalk pastel will do fine rite?)
most ppl recommanded enamel paint. chalk pastel or tamiya weathering kit work just fine.

vi) Put on the decal?
i saw some ppl putting decal before weathing.

vii) Apply Topcoat (Flat version if u prefer dull and glossy if u like shinny)
some ppl suggest topcoated before weathering. in case something happen during the weathering, u still have ur kits protected.

I am newbie too, just sharing my idea.

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post Sep 5 2007, 05:43 PM

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whats the different between top coat and clear coat tin spray from mr hobby ?

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post Sep 5 2007, 06:15 PM

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QUOTE(sunnyboy @ Aug 26 2007, 11:17 AM)
i understand...that's y this thread are for....giving guidance n let them improve ma.....

like the tank that sooyewguan did, if didnt giv flat coat plus enamel wash effect...the tank will be wasted...

i just hope him to success in his 1st tank built...this may giv alot of encouragement to him....
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i also wish i can do well in my first tank. i will use this as my try and error model to apply some weathering techniques and practice my skills. Already bought another M1A1 Aim last week rclxms.gifrclxms.gif hope to get better result this time.

Here the tracks for my panzer after some pastel powder. Did some drybrush on the tank also but its too ugly to show doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif
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anyone can suggest wat color normally used for rust during drybrush?? I tried dark copper but the result wasnt really good

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post Sep 6 2007, 05:10 PM

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QUOTE(fyire @ Sep 5 2007, 11:16 PM)
Cools smile.gif The tracks looks pretty good smile.gif

What kinda paints r u using btw? I'm asking 'cause of the tricks that can be done by using different paint types for different purposes.

For example: what I would do for the tank tracks is to start by giving it a pristine color, using lacquers. Then switch over to something like acrylics (or pastels like u did) for the rust effect, then finally take acrylics mixed with baby powder (to give it more texture) and dab it onto the tracks to simulate builtup of mud. This way, should I mess up, I can just dip the whole thing into alcohol to remove the weathering effects while keeping the original layer of lacquer paints intact, then start again.

For rust, there's no one color. Orange like what StormV suggested is good, u can also try various mixes of colors to it. Some areas, use the dark copper that u've tried before, some areas, use orange, some areas, use a mix of dark copper + orange, and some areas, u might wanna mix in a bit of black as well.
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i am using acrylic paint on the track and the pastel i mixed with some drops of thinner to make it stick better. didnt using enamel paint because its really expensive compare to acrylic or lacquar.
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post Sep 7 2007, 04:13 PM

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Finally ..

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Wanna add rust and rain mark but dunno how, so i guess this is consider finished for currently time.

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post Sep 7 2007, 04:24 PM

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actually both both them is water based, it was writen on the can. I never tried grey one yet. However, i am using blue one on my model, which had lacquar and acrylic paint on it, so far everything looks fine luckly.

Guess this grey can's thinner is bit strong until melting the paint ?
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post Sep 24 2007, 02:38 PM

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the only problem with hand painting is brush stroke might be visible for larger area. for smaller parts, hand painting still easier than AB
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post Oct 4 2007, 03:58 PM

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looks like some one in the KL should start an online shop business for hobby tools.

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