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TSZM Fong
post Apr 26 2019, 06:01 PM, updated 4y ago

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Updated: 31 July 2021
Please refer to 'Pending' section for latest models as this list will not be updated every day

Here are all the decent Ultrabook/regular/business laptops you can buy.

How I rate these laptops:
Build quality first. Battery life second. The rest are display, input devices, performance, warranty etc.

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If you need advice on recommendations, feel free to PM.

Intel 11th gen (Tiger Lake) / AMD Ryzen (Renoir, Lucienne, Cezanne)

BUSINESS LAPTOPS (incomplete)
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MID RANGE/PREMIUM (must have colour accurate display)
RM3000-3499:
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RM3500-3999:
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RM4000-4499:
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RM4500-4999:
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BUDGET PICKS
RM2500-2999:
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RM3000-3499:
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Thanks for reading!

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post Apr 26 2019, 06:07 PM

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I just got my Surface Book 2 13"!!
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post Apr 27 2019, 01:31 PM

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How Lenovo Ideapad L340 RM2,184.05 with 8gb ram and amd 3500u? Is the 128 gb ssd too less?
https://www.lenovo.com/my/en/laptops/ideapa...PI/p/81LW0013MJ
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post Apr 27 2019, 02:02 PM

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QUOTE(akhito @ Apr 27 2019, 01:31 PM)
How Lenovo Ideapad L340 RM2,184.05 with 8gb ram and amd 3500u? Is the 128 gb ssd too less?
https://www.lenovo.com/my/en/laptops/ideapa...PI/p/81LW0013MJ
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It's basically the same with Ideapad 330 14 which isn't a good model. Not a good choice
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post Apr 29 2019, 05:37 PM

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wahh.. great ultrabook section.... ive seen now, some ultra book with m.2 nvme... is it starting last year or last 2 years? hmm.gif
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post Apr 29 2019, 07:38 PM

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QUOTE(pandera999 @ Apr 29 2019, 05:37 PM)
ive seen now, some ultra book with m.2 nvme... is it starting last year or last 2 years? hmm.gif
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If not heavily stressed often then should be able to last long...if kept at >70C all the time then goodbye controller
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post Apr 29 2019, 08:37 PM

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QUOTE(ZM Fong @ Apr 29 2019, 07:38 PM)
If not heavily stressed often then should be able to last long...if kept at >70C all the time then goodbye controller
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if talking about the endurance test.... lets skip from mobile computing.... dekstop tempt on m.2... hmm.gif pretty scary too.. even its hardly to keep below 70... normaly i gonna mod extra by give each fan for sata
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post Apr 29 2019, 08:47 PM

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Just wondering why are these "NON-UPGRADABLE 4GB RAM" ?

Are these ram bundled within motherboard?
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post Apr 29 2019, 09:09 PM

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QUOTE(loutze @ Apr 29 2019, 08:47 PM)
Just wondering why are these "NON-UPGRADABLE 4GB RAM" ?

Are these ram bundled within motherboard?
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Means the ram is soldered to the motherboard and there is no empty ram slot. I think
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post Apr 29 2019, 09:21 PM

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QUOTE(pandera999 @ Apr 29 2019, 08:37 PM)
if talking about the endurance test.... lets skip from mobile computing.... dekstop tempt on m.2...  hmm.gif  pretty scary too.. even its hardly to keep below 70... normaly i gonna mod extra by give each fan for sata
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Faster=More heat. Even with copper heatsink mod, my PM981 can reach ~80C under prolonged write
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post Apr 29 2019, 09:21 PM

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QUOTE(akhito @ Apr 29 2019, 09:09 PM)
Means the ram is soldered to the motherboard and there is no empty ram slot. I think
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Correct.
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post May 1 2019, 12:12 PM

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So I’ve been contemplating to get an ultrabook below 4500. I was looking at the 14” zenbook and the Huawei Matebook 13. Currently the zenbook checks all the list but am worried about the low brightness value! Huawei checks everything too but not too sure about reliability? Any 14” ultrabooks to recommend with a GREAT screen and possibly an MX150 smile.gif?
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post May 4 2019, 11:48 AM

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Is Huawei Matebook D a good choice for student and no gaming?
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post May 4 2019, 01:59 PM

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QUOTE(gimkhoon @ May 4 2019, 11:48 AM)
Is Huawei Matebook D a good choice for student and no gaming?
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Yes (it's included in the list), just need to be aware of unknown reliability and limited/questionable aftersales support
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post May 4 2019, 03:18 PM

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Good list! Just a suggestion, I think is best to also include weight and height in the listing since it is among main criteria in selecting ultrabook
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post May 4 2019, 03:54 PM

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QUOTE(zaoldyeck @ May 4 2019, 03:18 PM)
Good list! Just a suggestion, I think is best to also include weight and height in the listing since it is among main criteria in selecting ultrabook
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When asking for recommendations you just need to state your requirements and I'll filter out the options for you
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post May 19 2019, 09:02 AM

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how about thinkpad Carbon X1 ?
Im looking for ultrabook
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post May 19 2019, 02:30 PM

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QUOTE(enteraname1 @ May 19 2019, 09:02 AM)
how about thinkpad Carbon X1 ?
Im looking for ultrabook
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Good model

Note that I don't put models above 5k inside this list
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post May 20 2019, 04:49 PM

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Great list and effort there! thumbup.gif I actually searching similar needs for my brother going for university, asking for a lightweight laptop with RM2k-2.5k range, with good battery life (~4 hours) and decent GPU for casual gaming. Also, he's not really fond with 15.6", saying its kinda large.

From my research, I found few as below that somehow not in your list:
- HP 14-cm0108AU (Ryzen 5 2500U, 1.55kg, 14" FHD IPS, 4GB / 1TB, RM 1939)
This is quite a good one, since with sub-2k, this machine having FHD IPS and its Ryzen 5-2500u is on par with i5-8250U based on NotebookCheck benchmark list.

- Asus Vivobook A411U-FEB143T (i5-8250U, MX130, 1.35kg, 14" FHD, 4GB / 1TB, RM 2159)
- Asus Vivobook A411U-NEB345T (i5-8250U, MX150, 1.35kg, 14" FHD, 4GB / 1TB, RM 2409)
Both Vivobook A411U are quite nice, since with just 1.35kg and below RM2.5k, I can get i5-8250 and MX130 / 150. Also comes with 14" FHD, fingerprint, and 4 USBs (1 type-C, 1x 3.0, 2x 2.0).

Of course, I will upgrade the laptop with additional RAM and SSD as main partition.

What do you think? Any other recommendation e.g. Acer Swift 3 maybe? hmm.gif

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post May 20 2019, 04:52 PM

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QUOTE(shadowzephyr @ May 20 2019, 04:49 PM)
HP 14-cm0108AU
Vivobook A411U
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Build quality cannot convince me. Also small battery. I don't just look at specs.
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QUOTE(ZM Fong @ May 20 2019, 04:52 PM)
Build quality cannot convince me. Also small battery. I don't just look at specs.
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I see. Yup, fair enough. So, Acer Swift 3 then? Or any other suggestion?
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post May 20 2019, 05:24 PM

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QUOTE(shadowzephyr @ May 20 2019, 05:15 PM)
I see. Yup, fair enough. So, Acer Swift 3 then? Or any other suggestion?
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Cheapest yet well-built+good battery life so far would be Acer Swift 3 SF314-54. However I strongly suggest anyone to try out the laptop yourself if you want to grab one to get a feeling
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QUOTE(ZM Fong @ Apr 26 2019, 06:01 PM)
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For this price, where I can get it? Cannot find...
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post May 26 2019, 11:15 PM

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QUOTE(chubbyqq @ May 26 2019, 08:51 PM)
For this price, where I can get it? Cannot find...
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Like I mentioned above, prices will change time by time and it's impossible for me to update them daily
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How to know which one is the lightest with good build quality
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post Jun 3 2019, 04:32 PM

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QUOTE(jack2 @ Jun 3 2019, 03:43 PM)
How to know which one is the lightest with good build quality
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Budget?
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QUOTE(ZM Fong @ Jun 3 2019, 04:32 PM)
Budget?
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2000-3500
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post Jun 3 2019, 11:42 PM

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QUOTE(jack2 @ Jun 3 2019, 11:22 PM)
2000-3500
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Lenovo Ideapad 720s 13 Intel 81BV000BMJ / CMJ
Lenovo Yoga S730 81J0005LMJ / 81J0005KMJ - no USB A
Asus Zenbook UX331F-ALEG010T
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Hi, would like to ask for recommendation for 15.6 inch, below RM3,500, for home and work use, light gaming.

Currently using Asus Vivobook 2013.

Thank you.
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QUOTE(Incarnation @ Jun 6 2019, 03:28 PM)
Hi, would like to ask for recommendation for 15.6 inch, below RM3,500, for home and work use, light gaming.
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Any preference on weight and battery life? Mind low sRGB display and non-upgradable RAM? Need good GPU performance?
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QUOTE(ZM Fong @ Jun 6 2019, 03:29 PM)
Any preference on weight and battery life? Mind low sRGB display and non-upgradable RAM? Need good GPU performance?
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Ya, prefer light weight, good battery life, good display, non-upgradable RAM is okay for me.
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post Jun 6 2019, 03:34 PM

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QUOTE(Incarnation @ Jun 6 2019, 03:31 PM)
Ya, prefer light weight, good battery life, good display, non-upgradable RAM is okay for me.
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Give a range - max weight in kg and min battery life in hours

There isn't any good 15 inch regular laptop with good sRGB display in this budget
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QUOTE(ZM Fong @ Jun 6 2019, 03:34 PM)
Give a range - max weight in kg and min battery life in hours

There isn't any good 15 inch regular laptop with good sRGB display in this budget
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Maybe below 2kg and min 12 hours battery life.

Display still can lowered a bit I don't mind.
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QUOTE(Incarnation @ Jun 6 2019, 03:42 PM)
Maybe below 2kg and min 12 hours battery life.

Display still can lowered a bit I don't mind.
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12 hrs isn't realistic...OK with 7-8 hrs?

Fine with 14 inch?
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QUOTE(ZM Fong @ Jun 6 2019, 04:01 PM)
12 hrs isn't realistic...OK with 7-8 hrs?

Fine with 14 inch?
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Is it? I am a noob in pc spec lol

7-8 hrs is ok, still like 15 inch

How bout i top up to below 4k?
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QUOTE(Incarnation @ Jun 6 2019, 04:12 PM)
Is it? I am a noob in pc spec lol

7-8 hrs is ok, still like 15 inch

How bout i top up to below 4k?
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You need below 5k for 15 inch+high sRGB, 7-8 hrs battery life and <2kg weight
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QUOTE(ZM Fong @ Jun 6 2019, 04:14 PM)
You need below 5k for 15 inch+high sRGB, 7-8 hrs battery life and <2kg weight
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Lol ok.

I try to survey again.

Thank you.
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Out of curiosity why no dell? And from your list which brand has good after sale service?
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QUOTE(malim.deman @ Jun 6 2019, 08:03 PM)
Out of curiosity why no dell? And from your list which brand has good after sale service?
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Good question actually, I wonder why nobody asked me about this before. Yes, Dell has the best after sales service in Malaysia imo; however, most Inspiron models don't have big battery. It shouldn't be an issue at first since new Intel CPUs nowadays are very power efficient in idle/light loads; however, reviews had shown that the battery life sucks. There is a section in the list for those models with not so great battery life; however, Dell models are usually priced high. Inspiron 3000 series have mediocre build quality (best would be sturdy but feels cheap) while Inspiron 5000 series have OKish build quality (in terms of rigidity). Left Inspiron 7000 series, however they are usually expensive. Since many Inspiron 7000 series models aren't worth it imo, therefore they are not included in the list. For Vostros, I don't have enough info on other models besides 5471/5481, therefore I will not include the others for now. As I said before, different ppl will have different perspective/opinion when buying laptop, this is how I judge, yours might vary and you can ignore this list

(btw, there are still a few Dell models in the list)

This post has been edited by ZM Fong: Jun 6 2019, 08:25 PM
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QUOTE(ZM Fong @ Jun 6 2019, 08:18 PM)
For Vostros, I don't have enough info on other models besides 5471/5481
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Dell Vostro's and Dell Inspiron 5000 aren't that differnt. Last time I checked Inspiron only have 10/100 ethernet while Vostro has 10/100/1000 ethernet.
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QUOTE(dylan_chng @ Jun 6 2019, 09:00 PM)
Dell Vostro's and Dell Inspiron 5000 aren't that differnt. Last time I checked Inspiron only have 10/100 ethernet while Vostro has 10/100/1000 ethernet.
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Correct - Vostro is consumer rebrand (Inspiron 5000 rebrand with improved build quality I believe?)

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QUOTE(ZM Fong @ Jun 6 2019, 08:18 PM)
Good question actually, I wonder why nobody asked me about this before. Yes, Dell has the best after sales service in Malaysia imo; however, most Inspiron models don't have big battery. It shouldn't be an issue at first since new Intel CPUs nowadays are very power efficient in idle/light loads; however, reviews had shown that the battery life sucks. There is a section in the list for those models with not so great battery life; however, Dell models are usually priced high. Inspiron 3000 series have mediocre build quality (best would be sturdy but feels cheap) while Inspiron 5000 series have OKish build quality (in terms of rigidity). Left Inspiron 7000 series, however they are usually expensive. Since many Inspiron 7000 series models aren't worth it imo, therefore they are not included in the list. For Vostros, I don't have enough info on other models besides 5471/5481, therefore I will not include the others for now. As I said before, different ppl will have different perspective/opinion when buying laptop, this is how I judge, yours might vary and you can ignore this list

(btw, there are still a few Dell models in the list)
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Thank u sir for the info. Didn't know bout battery life. Wonder maybe price bit high bcos of better after sales..
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Hi sifus,

Is that convincing to get an Lenovo Yoga 530 with AMD R7-2700U? Have no experience in comparing performance of AMD vs Intel core processor.. But the price in Lazada seems a huge different compared to i5 series : https://s.lazada.com.my/s.ASsz
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QUOTE(Elson99 @ Jun 13 2019, 01:10 AM)
Hi sifus,

Is that convincing to get an Lenovo Yoga 530 with AMD R7-2700U? Have no experience in comparing performance of AMD vs Intel core processor.. But the price in Lazada seems a huge different compared to i5 series : https://s.lazada.com.my/s.ASsz
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NBC got review, not bad. CPU performance should be similar but better iGPU performance
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QUOTE(Elson99 @ Jun 13 2019, 01:10 AM)
Hi sifus,

Is that convincing to get an Lenovo Yoga 530 with AMD R7-2700U? Have no experience in comparing performance of AMD vs Intel core processor.. But the price in Lazada seems a huge different compared to i5 series : https://s.lazada.com.my/s.ASsz
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wow, rm2k only. sufficient ram and fast storage. I like. I guess RAM prices are indeed coming down in price.

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QUOTE(dylan_chng @ Jun 13 2019, 01:39 AM)
wow, rm2k only. sufficient ram and fast storage. I like. I guess RAM prices are indeed coming down in price.
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Limited time only (stock clearance)
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QUOTE(ZM Fong @ Jun 13 2019, 02:13 AM)
Limited time only (stock clearance)
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How do you know it's stock clearance?
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QUOTE(Elson99 @ Jun 13 2019, 01:10 AM)
Hi sifus,

Is that convincing to get an Lenovo Yoga 530 with AMD R7-2700U? Have no experience in comparing performance of AMD vs Intel core processor.. But the price in Lazada seems a huge different compared to i5 series : https://s.lazada.com.my/s.ASsz
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this model is worth on the price?

product is not exist.. sold off?

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Any recommendation for one 13" that comes with discrete graphics but wont break the bank?
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QUOTE(BFGWong @ Jun 17 2019, 07:06 PM)
Any recommendation for one 13" that comes with discrete graphics but wont break the bank?
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What's your budget? Usually 13 inch laptops with dGPU will throttle
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Around 3500. Was hoping the AMD Ryzen APU concept can deliver better. But the 2019 R 3300 is a disappointment - same performance as R2500 but graphics downgraded from Vega 8 to Vega 6.

I guess its back to Intel + nVidia. Just wanted an ultraportable that I can play some games on (nothing too fancy, like Civ) while plugged in.
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QUOTE(BFGWong @ Jun 18 2019, 02:13 PM)
Around 3500.  Was hoping the AMD Ryzen APU concept can deliver better.  But the 2019 R 3300 is a disappointment - same performance as R2500 but graphics downgraded from Vega 8 to Vega 6.

I guess its back to Intel + nVidia.  Just wanted an ultraportable that I can play some games on (nothing too fancy, like Civ) while plugged in.
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3300U is based on 2300U which is a 4c4t chip, 3500U and 2500U are 4c8t chips

Might want to increase budget to 4k unless you're fine with 14 inch

And like I mentioned, 13 inch laptops with dGPU will usually throttle
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Hi Sifu, if between Lenovo Ideapad 530s and Dell Inspiron 5481 which one you recommended. According to some reviews, Lenovo quality is not as good as Dell.
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QUOTE(kyteng @ Jun 18 2019, 06:02 PM)
Hi Sifu, if between Lenovo Ideapad 530s and Dell Inspiron 5481 which one you recommended. According to some reviews, Lenovo quality is not as good as Dell.
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Quality mainly depends on model

530s is better overall
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QUOTE(ZM Fong @ Jun 18 2019, 02:20 PM)
3300U is based on 2300U which is a 4c4t chip, 3500U and 2500U are 4c8t chips

Might want to increase budget to 4k unless you're fine with 14 inch

And like I mentioned, 13 inch laptops with dGPU will usually throttle
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I'd still prefer 13" - makes a lot of differences carrying it daily with other stuff in the bag. If bumping it to 4k, what is the best one with a decent GPU?
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QUOTE(BFGWong @ Jun 24 2019, 02:26 PM)
I'd still prefer 13" - makes  a lot of differences carrying it daily with other stuff in the bag.  If bumping it to 4k, what is the best one with a decent GPU?
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Microsoft surface pro is very good.... It makes a lot of diff ...huhu
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QUOTE(BFGWong @ Jun 24 2019, 02:26 PM)
I'd still prefer 13" - makes  a lot of differences carrying it daily with other stuff in the bag.  If bumping it to 4k, what is the best one with a decent GPU?
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Asus Zenbook UX333F-NA4050T / 051T / 162T - has low throttling point
QUOTE(jack2 @ Jun 24 2019, 03:25 PM)
Microsoft surface pro is very good.... It makes a lot of diff ...huhu
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There are reasons why there isn't a single Surface in this list...

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Thank you for this very helpful thread Bro Fong.

I would like to ask where do I even find the prices as listed? I tried Lazada/Shopee/Manufacture website all have them listed more expensive.

Specifically these models:
2539 Acer Swift 3 SF315-41G-R6Z9 - R5-2500U, 8GB, 256GB SSD, RX540, IPS

2552+ Acer Swift 3 SF314-54G-52L8 / 59WJ - i5-8250U, 4GB (upgradable), 1TB HDD+128GB SSD, MX150 (10+W), IPS

2498+ Lenovo Ideapad 330s-14IKB 81F40191MJ / 192MJ / 193MJ - i5-8250U, 4GB, 512GB, Radeon 535, IPS

Can show me where to get them at that price?
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Can show me where to get them at that price?
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5. This list will be updated from time to time, however prices will fluctuate
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Asus Zenbook UX333F-NA4050T / 051T / 162T - has low throttling point

There are reasons why there isn't a single Surface in this list...
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Thanks.. I found it around 4k plus at Lowyat, proposal rejected by MoF. After nego brought the new Ryzen x360 for 3350 after checking the whole place.

3350 HP Envy x360 13-AG0011AU - R5-3500U, 8GB, 256GB
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3350 HP Envy x360 13-AG0011AU - R5-3500U, 8GB, 256GB
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Can you check whether it has dual channel RAM? Also if possible, let me know the power limits via AMD uProf - STAPM limit, slow limit, fast limit
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Can you check whether it has dual channel RAM? Also if possible, let me know the power limits via AMD uProf - STAPM limit, slow limit, fast limit
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CPUz: Dual Channel RAM

uProf:
STAPM limit - 15.0
Slow limit - 30.0
Fast limi - 25.0
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CPUz:  Dual Channel RAM

uProf:
STAPM limit - 15.0
Slow limit - 30.0
Fast limi - 25.0
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Among Asus Zenbook UX333F-NA4050T and HP Envy 13-AH1038TX, which one has better performance and solid build?
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Among Asus Zenbook UX333F-NA4050T and HP Envy 13-AH1038TX, which one has better performance and solid build?
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Both will throttle - normal in 13 inch Ultrabook with dGPU

Exterior build wise UX333 is better, however QC wise both aren't that great
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Both will throttle - normal in 13 inch Ultrabook with dGPU

Exterior build wise UX333 is better, however QC wise both aren't that great
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Thanks for the info
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Most welcomed. But since I've looked at it, can help with some explanation on what those are?

STAPM, Fast, Slow limits are different TDP at which the CPU starts throttling right?

I am thinking, in laptop mode vs tablet mode, will x360 (or other type of convertible like Yoga) have a different power limit due to constrained cooling?
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any recommendation?
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Give me more info: Usage, preference on weight and battery life, mind high sRGB display and non-upgradeable RAM
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Most welcomed.  But since I've looked at it, can help with some explanation on what those are?

STAPM, Fast, Slow limits are different TDP at which the CPU starts throttling right?

I am thinking, in laptop mode vs tablet mode, will x360 (or other type of convertible like Yoga) have a different power limit due to constrained cooling?
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Fast limit - power limit for the first few seconds (basically useless)
Slow limit - power limit for a long duration until STAPM power reaches slow limit value
STAPM limit - power limit forever - 15w is typical especially for convertible

From what I know, you can adjust performance setting in HP Command Center so maybe you can try to play around that. If you want best performance possible, can try tuning using Ryzenadj. Also, the power limits seem to be higher than the previous Envy x360 13
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Give me more info: Usage, preference on weight and battery life, mind high sRGB display and non-upgradeable RAM

Fast limit - power limit for the first few seconds (basically useless)
Slow limit - power limit for a long duration until STAPM power reaches slow limit value
STAPM limit - power limit forever - 15w is typical especially for convertible

From what I know, you can adjust performance setting in HP Command Center so maybe you can try to play around that. If you want best performance possible, can try tuning using Ryzenadj. Also, the power limits seem to be higher than the previous Envy x360 13
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More on video editing (4k) + office tasks....

Lightest is the best for travelling
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More on video editing (4k) + office tasks....

Lightest is the best for travelling
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Preferred max weight in kg and min battery life in hours? Mind low sRGB display and non-upgradeable 8GB RAM?
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Preferred max weight in kg and min battery life in hours? Mind low sRGB display and non-upgradeable 8GB RAM?
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What are the disadvantages of low sRGB?
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max weight is heavy to carry.
What are the disadvantages of low sRGB?
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Do you understand my question lol

What is your preferred max weight in kg? Preferred min battery life in hours? Mind non-upgradeable 8GB RAM?

Low sRGB = Colours less vibrant
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Fast limit - power limit for the first few seconds (basically useless)
Slow limit - power limit for a long duration until STAPM power reaches slow limit value
STAPM limit - power limit forever - 15w is typical especially for convertible

From what I know, you can adjust performance setting in HP Command Center so maybe you can try to play around that. If you want best performance possible, can try tuning using Ryzenadj. Also, the power limits seem to be higher than the previous Envy x360 13
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Thanks! When I have some time I'll tinker around with the power settings. Now just trying to install things I need to use on it and getting the hang of it.
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Do you understand my question lol

What is your preferred max weight in kg? Preferred min battery life in hours? Mind non-upgradeable 8GB RAM?

Low sRGB = Colours less vibrant
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max 1.7kg lo....
Battery life = 3 hours at least....

Prefer upgraable RAM and sRGB
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max 1.7kg lo....
Battery life = 3 hours at least....

Prefer upgraable RAM and sRGB
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Upgradeable RAM+high sRGB laptops with <1.7kg weight are quite rare, you might need to pay more...what's your budget?
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Upgradeable RAM+high sRGB laptops with <1.7kg weight are quite rare, you might need to pay more...what's your budget?
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If this is the case, then I change my purpose to only office tasks (Excel pivot calculations - quite heavy) and no editing.

As light as possible with good battery life.
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If this is the case, then I change my purpose to only office tasks (Excel pivot calculations - quite heavy) and no editing.

As light as possible with good battery life.
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I rephrase my question: Choose 1 only: upgradeable RAM or high sRGB display

What's your budget?
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I rephrase my question: Choose 1 only: upgradeable RAM or high sRGB display

What's your budget?
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high sRGB.

2000-4000
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high sRGB.

2000-4000
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I assumed that you need good battery life (which is >7 hrs from my perspective) not at least 3 hrs

Lenovo Yoga 730 13 customize
Lenovo Yoga S730 81J0005LMJ / KMJ - no USB A
Lenovo Ideapad 720s 13 Intel 81BV000BMJ / CMJ
Acer Spin 5 SP513-53N-52HJ, SP513-52N-58QD
Acer Swift 3 SF314-55-54A3/5699
Asus Zenbook UX333F-NA4050T / 051T / 162T
Asus Zenbook UX433F-NA6153T / 54T
Asus Zenbook Flip UX362F-AEL294T
Asus Zenbook Flip UX461U-AE1139T
Asus Zenbook UX331F-ALEG010T
HP Envy 13-AH-TX
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I assumed that you need good battery life (which is >7 hrs from my perspective) not at least 3 hrs

Lenovo Yoga 730 13 customize
Lenovo Yoga S730 81J0005LMJ / KMJ - no USB A
Lenovo Ideapad 720s 13 Intel 81BV000BMJ / CMJ
Acer Spin 5 SP513-53N-52HJ, SP513-52N-58QD
Acer Swift 3 SF314-55-54A3/5699
Asus Zenbook UX333F-NA4050T / 051T / 162T
Asus Zenbook UX433F-NA6153T / 54T
Asus Zenbook Flip UX362F-AEL294T
Asus Zenbook Flip UX461U-AE1139T
Asus Zenbook UX331F-ALEG010T
HP Envy 13-AH-TX
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Among all of these,which one is the lightest with great performance?

Many thanks ya brother.
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Among all of these,which one is the lightest with great performance?

Many thanks ya brother.
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What kind of performance? In general there isn't significant performance difference except for CPU performance - some have better cooling+higher stock power limit
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What kind of performance? In general there isn't significant performance difference except for CPU performance - some have better cooling+higher stock power limit
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better cooling is good to consider.

Currently I am using Surface Pro and I like it very much. But may be the cooling is not that good and the battery bengkak and I got a new from warranty claim.
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better cooling is good to consider.

Currently I am using Surface Pro and I like it very much. But may be the cooling is not that good and the battery bengkak and I got a new from warranty claim.
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Well cooling wise they are about the same...S730 will have slightly worse sustained CPU performance, UX333/UX433 will throttle heavily when CPU+GPU are loaded

Typical Surface quality...avoid them next time - don't support anti-consumer brand
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Hi, which would you recommend between Acer Swift SF314 55 vs Swift 3 SF314-55G?? The only difference is the graphic card? Any pros and cons in the long run or would the independent graphic card worth the invest?
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Hi, which would you recommend between Acer Swift SF314 55 vs Swift 3 SF314-55G?? The only difference is the graphic card? Any pros and cons in the long run or would the independent graphic card worth the invest?
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Entirely different model - many differences
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Entirely different model - many differences
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mind give more info?? I did product comparison between two models, the difference seems on the graphic card and power input only??
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mind give more info?? I did product comparison between two models, the difference seems on the graphic card and power input only??
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The differences are the things that you can't see from spec sheet

Display quality, RAM+storage upgradability, cooling room (54G has 25w MX150, 55G has 10w MX150) - slight differences in build material and input devices too
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The differences are the things that you can't see from spec sheet

Display quality, RAM+storage upgradability, cooling room (54G has 25w MX150, 55G has 10w MX150) - slight differences in build material and input devices too
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25W is by 55 or 55G? So if money is not a concern, which of 55 or 55G would be advisable?? Worth the extra money spent??
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25W is by 55 or 55G? So if money is not a concern, which of 55 or 55G would be advisable?? Worth the extra money spent??
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If you don't mind low sRGB display, 54/54G is better overall
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If you don't mind low sRGB display, 54/54G is better overall
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mind elaborate further? i thought if wanna have good video experience, better have higher sRGB?
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mind elaborate further? i thought if wanna have good video experience, better have higher sRGB?
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some ppl cannot differentiate low and high sRGB - yes higher is better but it depends on you - some ppl are fine with low sRGB too for watching videos
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some ppl cannot differentiate low and high sRGB - yes higher is better but it depends on you - some ppl are fine with low sRGB too for watching videos
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I see, what are the other differences???
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I see, what are the other differences???
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there are other things like max brightness, contrast etc but difference in sRGB is more noticeable
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there are other things like max brightness, contrast etc but difference in sRGB is more noticeable
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Okay.. This is 55 vs 55G right?? Thx

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Okay.. This is 55 vs 55G right?? Thx
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54/54G vs 55/55G
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QUOTE(ZM Fong @ Jul 13 2019, 11:17 AM)
Entirely different model - many differences
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QUOTE(ZM Fong @ Jul 13 2019, 11:59 PM)
54/54G vs 55/55G
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Im confused with the reply... I'm asking for 55 vs 55G, but actually those listed are 54 vs 55? Now got clearer ady, thx
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Dear sifu ZM fong, what do you think about asus A412 ryzen 5 model? (price 1999). Is vega 8 gfic card good enough for casual gaming such as fifa 19 at lowest gfic setting 50-60fps, pubg lite, etc? Thanks sifu
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Dear sifu ZM fong, what do you think about asus A412 ryzen 5 model? (price 1999). Is vega 8 gfic card good enough for casual gaming such as fifa 19 at lowest gfic setting 50-60fps, pubg lite, etc? Thanks sifu
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Put aside specs - Build quality is unknown, basically everything is unknown rn since there is no reviews. Wouldn't go for it considering that most Vivobooks are mediocre
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Put aside specs - Build quality is unknown, basically everything is unknown rn since there is no reviews. Wouldn't go for it considering that most Vivobooks are mediocre
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Thanks sifu for the advise. Will consider other model then
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Hi, is this model worth to buy?
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I thought this model aldy sold out for a long time...

Never checked whether it has IPS display and 52Wh battery like the newer 320s-14...if you want to check in stores I can teach you lol
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1.7kg isn't heavy?
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1.7kg isn't heavy?
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still OK for a 14 inch
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I thought this model aldy sold out for a long time...

Never checked whether it has IPS display and 52Wh battery like the newer 320s-14...if you want to check in stores I can teach you lol
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No IPS display and only 30Wh, I guess it is not worth it...

I got these info from lelong...

BTW, how to check these in stores?

https://www.lelong.com.my/lenovo-ideapad-32...7-01-Sale-I.htm
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No IPS display and only 30Wh, I guess it is not worth it...

I got these info from lelong...
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Online info not correct...I also go to stores and check

I don't think this model can be found anymore, might want the slightly newer model
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Hi, can you recommend a laptop with >90% srgb screen with at least i5 8300h processor and with a graphic card? Budget, below rm3.8k. I’ll be doing photo and video editing.

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Hi, can you recommend a laptop with >90% srgb screen with at least i5 8300h processor and with a graphic card? Budget, below rm3.8k. I’ll be doing photo and video editing.
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No preference on weight and battery life?
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No preference on weight and battery life?
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Preferrably weight less than 2.5kg and idc ablut the battery life.
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Commandos Glock 5 with high sRGB IPS
Illegear Raven Lite, Raven, Raven SE with optional high sRGB IPS
Lenovo Legion Y530 81FV00M8MJ

Thin and light:
Illegear Onyx Lite
Commandos Katana 5

btw you should have posted in gaming laptop list but nvm
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good job... anyway i think u should include more than 5k laptop...

anyway i just buy another amd laptop
ASUS VIVOBOOK A412D-AEK156T Sliver 14" NOTEBOOK (Ryzen 5-3500U, 4GB, 256GB, ATI, W10H) FREE ASUS BACKPACK https://s.lazada.com.my/s.Z3tHt

is this a good buy for my fren? i add 8gb ram later
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anyway i just buy another amd laptop
ASUS VIVOBOOK A412D-AEK156T Sliver 14" NOTEBOOK (Ryzen 5-3500U, 4GB, 256GB, ATI, W10H) FREE ASUS BACKPACK https://s.lazada.com.my/s.Z3tHt

is this a good buy for my fren? i add 8gb ram later
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not enough info yet, however most Vivobooks are mediocre
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Can u recommend the best ultrabook around 1k or under 2k? Been using asus eeebook before. But not sure whats the problem now after close to 5years. No need fancy features, just good (read: ok ok) performance. Thanks!
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Can u recommend the best ultrabook around 1k or under 2k? Been using asus eeebook before. But not sure whats the problem now after close to 5years. No need fancy features, just good (read: ok ok) performance. Thanks!
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Nothing decent under 2k unfortunately
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Any review on lenovo ideapad s340? Seen quite good price with the specs
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Any review on lenovo ideapad s340? Seen quite good price with the specs
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It's the same with 330s - included in list
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Build quality cannot convince me. Also small battery. I don't just look at specs.
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What else are you looking?
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How I rate these laptops:
Build quality first. Battery life second. The rest are display (HD display will be excluded except in low end options), input devices, warranty and portability etc. QC and reliability are not considered, however business laptops usually have long reliability while cheaper laptops tend to have worse QC.
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Sorry as this was not in your list but do you recommend dell vostro as a light and thin ultrabook?
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QUOTE(sang_kenari @ Aug 21 2019, 10:43 AM)
Sorry as this was not in your list but do you recommend dell vostro as a light and thin ultrabook?
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which Vostro?
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QUOTE(ZM Fong @ Aug 21 2019, 12:24 PM)
which Vostro?
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Sorry, I thought in general but if you want to be specific, the current model in their website, Vostro 14 Inch 5481

https://www.dell.com/en-my/shop/laptops-and...-14-5481-laptop
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QUOTE(sang_kenari @ Aug 21 2019, 02:04 PM)
Vostro 14 Inch 5481
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it's in the list, battery is small but should be able to achieve ~7 hrs (iGPU model)
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QUOTE(ZM Fong @ Aug 21 2019, 02:07 PM)
it's in the list, battery is small but should be able to achieve ~7 hrs (iGPU model)
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Thanks. Sorry I didn't see it at first, maybe I expect to see it in the Top Pick list and didn't really go through the Good list biggrin.gif
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Hi, where can i get the Asus Zenbook Flip UX362F-AEL294T - i5-8265U, 8GB, 256GB, good touchscreen IPS, 2 in 1 at the price you mentioned above: RM3,108?

Would this be a Malaysia set?

Thanks!!
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Hi, where can i get the Asus Zenbook Flip UX362F-AEL294T - i5-8265U, 8GB, 256GB, good touchscreen IPS, 2 in 1 at the price you mentioned above: RM3,108?

Would this be a Malaysia set?

Thanks!!
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https://shopee.com.my/ASUS-UX362F-AEL294T-I...4261.2305313743

of course is Malaysia set since the model number is for Malaysia
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hi bro ZM fong, i sent a req thru pm , for spec thinkpad customise max value x395 and t495 citi promo on lenovo site, coz i my miss this theread answer , hope get answer fr u faster, thq bro !
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QUOTE(7thsky @ Aug 29 2019, 01:51 PM)
hi bro ZM fong, i sent a req thru pm , for spec thinkpad customise max value x395 and t495 citi promo on lenovo site, coz i my miss this theread answer , hope get answer fr u faster, thq bro !
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https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4829321
You may check this out
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https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4829321
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Tq bro, I'll go check those thread !
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What do you think about new Acer Swift 3 SF314-41, comes with AMD ryzen 5 3500u, 4GB RAM and 256GB NVMe ssd? It is good enough compare to intel version?

Btw how to check maximum RAM I can upgrade for any Acer laptop, not found on their website.
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What do you think about new Acer Swift 3 SF314-41, comes with AMD ryzen 5 3500u, 4GB RAM and 256GB NVMe ssd? It is good enough compare to intel version?

Btw how to check maximum RAM I can upgrade for any Acer laptop, not found on their website.
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It's in the list. Not much info yet but should be decent based on other 3500u laptops

Should be the same chassis with SF314-54 so there's a RAM slot (4GB is soldered), max is 20GB I think
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QUOTE(ZM Fong @ Aug 30 2019, 12:56 PM)
It's in the list. Not much info yet but should be decent based on other 3500u laptops

Should be the same chassis with SF314-54 so there's a RAM slot (4GB is soldered), max is 20GB I think
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Do you have any experience dealing with acer after service? It is good enough?

I plan to buy this laptop on lazada and after that I assume I need contact acer directly if want claim warranty kan.

About the Ram, does upgrading Ram will void warranty.? Nowadays 4GB not enough lah. Manufacturer should start offer 8GB for RM2K laptop.
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Do you have any experience dealing with acer after service? It is good enough?

I plan to buy this laptop on lazada and after that I assume I need contact acer directly if want claim warranty kan.

About the Ram, does upgrading Ram will void warranty.? Nowadays 4GB not enough lah. Manufacturer should start offer 8GB for RM2K laptop.
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no, but my friend dealt with Highpoint before, not bad

there will be a sticker (probably, common in Acer laptops), just tear it down carefully and tape back after upgrading

unfortunately this is Malaysia where 4GB RAM out of the box is still a thing

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can you recommend me a high sRGB display gaming laptop ranging 4000 to 4500? i need a good display for dicom interpretation, thus good colour accuracy is important but i wish to play some games too. The standard acceptable display would be macbook retina display grade but i don't like mac os. Is there any gaming laptop in that range that has display as good as macbook? or almost as good as.
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QUOTE(tky0414 @ Sep 1 2019, 10:38 PM)
can you recommend me a high sRGB display gaming laptop ranging 4000 to 4500? i need a good display for dicom interpretation, thus good colour accuracy is important but i wish to play some games too. The standard acceptable display would be macbook retina display grade but i don't like mac os. Is there any gaming laptop in that range that has display as good as macbook? or almost as good as.
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No preference on weight and battery life?

For your budget expect >90% sRGB
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No preference on weight and battery life?

For your budget expect >90% sRGB
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lighter and longer battery life of course is preferable but then for me, maybe less than 3kg? more than 3-4hrs battery is enough for me as long as it doesnt compromise the gaming performance.. i m actually looking at gaming laptop more rather than an ultrabook.
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Hi I'm looking for a laptop recommendation. I already have a gaming laptop at home which is my main workhorse. But I have been finding that the battery life is too poor. I'm looking for one that has better mobility and battery life. I use it mainly for web browsing, movie, and software development.

Preferably, 13" or 14".

In terms of feature priority, 1. Battery life(>7 hours on moderate use) 2. Performance 3. Weight(not really particular)

Currently eyeing T495, or Huawei Matebook 13. Was eyeing X395 too, but I found that I didnt like 13" in 16:9 ratio. A little too small to my taste. But 14" in 16:9 is fine. Performance-wise, doesnt have to be too high, as I still have my main laptop. Just that looking for something that it is easier to bring along as I attend seminars, workshops, or travelling. Thanks for any recommendations.

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Hi I'm looking for a laptop recommendation
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Budget?
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QUOTE(Lazy2study @ Sep 2 2019, 11:17 PM)
Hi I'm looking for a laptop recommendation. I already have a gaming laptop at home which is my main workhorse. But I have been finding that the battery life is too poor. I'm looking for one that has better mobility and battery life. I use it mainly for web browsing, movie, and software development.

Preferably, 13" or 14".

In terms of feature priority, 1. Battery life(>7 hours on moderate use) 2. Performance 3. Weight(not really particular)

Currently eyeing T495, or Huawei Matebook 13. Was eyeing X395 too, but I found that I didnt like 13" in 16:9 ratio. A little too small to my taste. But 14" in 16:9 is fine. Performance-wise, doesnt have to be too high, as I still have my main laptop. Just that looking for something that it is easier to bring along as I attend seminars, workshops, or travelling. Thanks for any recommendations.
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Get a laptop that support USB PD (type C charging) and buy a powerful laptop powerbank like AUKEY or Xiaomi.
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Get a laptop that support USB PD (type C charging) and buy a powerful laptop powerbank like AUKEY or Xiaomi.
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Yeah, that's what I had in mind too. That's why I was eyeing the Lenovo t495 and matebook 13.
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Yeah, that's what I had in mind too. That's why I was eyeing the Lenovo t495 and matebook 13.
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Sifu i need help. My friend want to buy new ultrabook.

Specs; weight <2kg, high sRGB, battery life >7 hours, budget 5k.

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Sifu i need help. My friend want to buy new ultrabook.

Specs; weight <2kg, high sRGB, battery life >7 hours, budget 5k.
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Consider business grade laptops

Thinkpad: T490 400 nits, *X390 300 nits, L390 Yoga, *X390 Yoga
Not sure about battery life - good according to users: T495 400 nits, *X395 300 nits

Latitude: 7390, 7490
If can find: 5300, 7300, 7400, 5300 2 in 1

*non-upgradeable RAM
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Acer Swift 3 SF314-41 not support 16 GB RAM module, it only support 12GB RAM (4GB Onboard + 8GB). I email Acer for the confirmation, and they confirm it only 12GB.

Should I try to install 16GB RAM module or it will not work since the manufacturer has limited it?

Besides that what do you think about Acer Aspire 5 A514-52G since it not on the list? It is ok or not?
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QUOTE(Lazy2study @ Sep 2 2019, 11:17 PM)
Hi I'm looking for a laptop recommendation. I already have a gaming laptop at home which is my main workhorse. But I have been finding that the battery life is too poor. I'm looking for one that has better mobility and battery life. I use it mainly for web browsing, movie, and software development.

Preferably, 13" or 14".

In terms of feature priority, 1. Battery life(>7 hours on moderate use) 2. Performance 3. Weight(not really particular)

Currently eyeing T495, or Huawei Matebook 13. Was eyeing X395 too, but I found that I didnt like 13" in 16:9 ratio. A little too small to my taste. But 14" in 16:9 is fine. Performance-wise, doesnt have to be too high, as I still have my main laptop. Just that looking for something that it is easier to bring along as I attend seminars, workshops, or travelling. Thanks for any recommendations.
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Hi, any other recommendation? Seems like the deals for lenovo T495 has ended. Quite expensive now.
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Hi, I also dont really understand the difference between Huawei matebook 13 and matebook D. The specs seem similar, with matebook D having a longer battery life and bigger screen. But it seems to be selling cheaper at RM2999. Also, the matebook D wasn't listed in the recommendations here. Could somebody explain why?
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QUOTE(pantheratigris @ Sep 3 2019, 09:10 PM)
Acer Swift 3 SF314-41 not support 16 GB RAM module, it only support 12GB RAM (4GB Onboard + 8GB). I email Acer for the confirmation, and they confirm it only 12GB.

Should I try to install 16GB RAM module or it will not work since the manufacturer has limited it?

Besides that what do you think about Acer Aspire 5 A514-52G since it not on the list? It is ok or not?
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Max is either 12GB or 20GB (4+16), would suggest 4+4 (total 8GB) for dual channel though
QUOTE(Lazy2study @ Sep 3 2019, 10:04 PM)
Hi, any other recommendation? Seems like the deals for lenovo T495 has ended. Quite expensive now.
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Budget?
QUOTE(Lazy2study @ Sep 3 2019, 11:14 PM)
Hi, I also dont really understand the difference between Huawei matebook 13 and matebook D. The specs seem similar, with matebook D having a longer battery life and bigger screen. But it seems to be selling cheaper at RM2999. Also, the matebook D wasn't listed in the recommendations here. Could somebody explain why?
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Matebook 13 has better display and lighter

Though Huawei QC isn't that good from what I heard
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QUOTE(ZM Fong @ Sep 3 2019, 11:30 PM)
Max is either 12GB or 20GB (4+16), would suggest 4+4 (total 8GB) for dual channel though

Budget?

Matebook 13 has better display and lighter

Though Huawei QC isn't that good from what I heard
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Preferably below 3.5k. so the only advantage the matebook 13 has over the matebook D is the display and weight? Matebook D is 2018 model?
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QUOTE(Lazy2study @ Sep 3 2019, 11:44 PM)
Preferably below 3.5k. so the only advantage the matebook 13 has over the matebook D is the display and weight? Matebook D is 2018 model?
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Both are 2018 models I think, Matebook D is slightly older

You can still get business grade like L490 if you don't mind low sRGB display
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Yes
Both are 2018 models I think, Matebook D is slightly older

You can still get business grade like L490 if you don't mind low sRGB display
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Actually for me the most important right now is that the battery life is good and get me through more or less a day of use.

I was reading reviews about a 2019 matebook 13. That is different from the matebook that we have in Malaysia?
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QUOTE(Lazy2study @ Sep 4 2019, 07:43 AM)
Actually for me the most important right now is that the battery life is good and get me through more or less a day of use.

I was reading reviews about a 2019 matebook 13. That is different from the matebook that we have in Malaysia?
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L490 will do then, business grade > consumer grade

What do you mean by different?
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L490 will do then, business grade > consumer grade

What do you mean by different?
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I mean like, the matebook sold in Malaysia is it the latest generation? Haha
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I mean like, the matebook sold in Malaysia is it the latest generation? Haha
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There's only 1 generation, only specs/configs slightly different
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There's only 1 generation, only specs/configs slightly different
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Is there any other notebook type laptop with good battery life that comes with usb C charging? Probably looking about 3.5k price range, similar to Matebook 13-ish price.
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QUOTE(Lazy2study @ Sep 4 2019, 10:39 PM)
Is there any other notebook type laptop with good battery life that comes with usb C charging? Probably looking about 3.5k price range, similar to Matebook 13-ish price.
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Like I mentioned, Thinkpad L490/L390
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Is this any good?

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QUOTE(adizul @ Sep 15 2019, 01:13 AM)
Is this any good?

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It's in the list, however there isn't much info on it (included it bcoz of previous info on the Intel chassis and general info on ryzen mobile 3000 series)
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More on video editing (4k) + office tasks....

Lightest is the best for travelling
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Hi ZM Fong, can you recommend me this?

Weight = lightest
RAM= upgrabable or non upgrabable (doesn't matter)
sRGB.
Battery life= doesn't matter (the longest the matter)

Priority: able to handle 4K video editing + lightest.
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It's in the list, however there isn't much info on it (included it bcoz of previous info on the Intel chassis and general info on ryzen mobile 3000 series)
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May i know which asus model is this? It comes with a pen too.
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Hi ZM Fong, can you recommend me this?

Weight = lightest
RAM= upgrabable or non upgrabable (doesn't matter)
sRGB.
Battery life= doesn't matter (the longest the matter)

Priority: able to handle 4K video editing + lightest.
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May i know which asus model is this? It comes with a pen too.
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UM462D-AAI047T / AAI501T
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Any affordable touch screen laptop for business use?
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Budget?
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Rm3k, no need so advance. Simple or maybe 10.1 inch also ok
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Any preferences on weight, battery life and display size? Mind low sRGB display and non-upgradeable RAM?
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No weight, battery and display size. I need high srgb display and at least 4gb ram.
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hi, need your advice on ultrabook.

went to a mall, tried out hp elitebook 13.3 inchs. really like how it feels . even comes with 2 ram slots.

looking for i7 with 16gb ram

1. anything with similar shape and weight? ( the cheaper the better )
2. is HP alright? need this for business use. or should i go for lenovo/dell only?

thank you!
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hi, need your advice on ultrabook.

went to a mall, tried out hp elitebook 13.3 inchs. really like how it feels . even comes with 2 ram slots.

looking for i7 with 16gb ram

1. anything with similar shape and weight? ( the cheaper the better )
2. is HP alright? need this for business use. or should i go for lenovo/dell only?

thank you!
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Elitebook 830 G5/G6 is fine, however you might want to consider Thinkpad/Latitude also

fyi i5 ULV and i7 ULV don't have much performance difference

Budget? Any preferences on weight, battery life and display size?
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QUOTE(ZM Fong @ Sep 22 2019, 03:07 PM)
Elitebook 830 G5/G6 is fine, however you might want to consider Thinkpad/Latitude also

fyi i5 ULV and i7 ULV don't have much performance difference

Budget? Any preferences on weight, battery life and display size?
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hi, 13.3 or 14 is just nice. anything less than or equals to 1.4kg .

battery life, as long as possible.

the only thing about thinkpad is its black and they all look the same.

latitude not sure if it now in ultrabook shape.

fell in love with the look and feel of elitebook, maybe i'm just looking for a cheaper or other alternative before making decision laugh.gif

edit: after you brought up latitude, i just found that there's a latitude 3301, dell claimed lightest 13 inchs, let me check it out

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QUOTE(ohman @ Sep 22 2019, 03:52 PM)
the only thing about thinkpad is its black and they all look the same.

latitude not sure if it now in ultrabook shape.

fell in love with the look and feel of elitebook, maybe i'm just looking for a cheaper or other alternative before making decision  laugh.gif

edit: after you brought up latitude, i just found that there's a latitude 3301, dell claimed lightest 13 inchs, let me check it out
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What's your budget?

Some Thinkpads have optional silver colour

Latitude 3000 series is mediocre in general
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What's your budget?

Some Thinkpads have optional silver colour

Latitude 3000 series is mediocre in general
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trying to put it below 6000, the lesser the better of course laugh.gif
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trying to put it below 6000, the lesser the better of course  laugh.gif
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Need high sRGB display? Mind non-upgradeable RAM?
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Need high sRGB display? Mind non-upgradeable RAM?
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business use, not really going to play games or watch movie.

but ram must be 16gb. if 8gb with upgradeable slot is fine.

i think its hard to find ultrabook with ram slot right? mostly soldered. only this elitebook has a magical 2 slots( maybe thats why its not really light)
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QUOTE(ohman @ Sep 22 2019, 04:42 PM)
business use, not really going to play games or watch movie.

but ram must be 16gb. if 8gb with upgradeable slot is fine.

i think its hard to find ultrabook with ram slot right? mostly soldered. only this elitebook has a magical 2 slots( maybe thats why its not really light)
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With upgradeable RAM (suggest upgrade by yourself):
Thinkpad P43s / T490 (~1.5kg), L390, L490
Latitude 5300 60Wh

16GB soldered:
Thinkpad T490s, T495s, X390, X390 Yoga, X395

For Latitude 7000 series you need to find reseller, online don't sell
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With upgradeable RAM (suggest upgrade by yourself):
Thinkpad P43s / T490 (~1.5kg), L390, L490
Latitude 5300 60Wh

16GB soldered:
Thinkpad T490s, T495s, X390, X390 Yoga, X395

For Latitude 7000 series you need to find reseller, online don't sell
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Last update: 28/8/19

Here are all the good/excellent Ultrabook/regular/business laptops you can buy.

How I rate these laptops:
Build quality first. Battery life second. The rest are display (HD display will be excluded except in low end options), input devices, performance, warranty and portability etc.

A few things before reading:
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If you need advice on recommendations, kindly PM me.

BUSINESS LAPTOPS
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GOOD PICKS (high sRGB)
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GOOD PICKS (low sRGB)
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OK PICKS
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GOOD, SHORT BATTERY LIFE (<6 hrs)
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OK, SHORT BATTERY LIFE (<6 hrs)
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Awaiting for more info:
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Imported Chinese models which are not included: Chuwi, Xiaomi

Additional info:
Usually i5 and i7 ULV don't have much performance difference due to thermal and firmware/power limitations, however CPU performance of R5 and R7 might vary between models due to difference in power limits. Also, there are 3 variants of MX150 GPU: 10W, 10+W and 25W. IMO brands only matter when comes to customer support, choose model not brand.

Thanks for reading! I hope this list helped you to choose the right laptop. Keep in mind that this is my own guide, you might not agree with some of the recommendations and I can understand that.
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Hey bro.

Any comments on Thinkbook 14s? I havent seen it on this list so does it mean that is not that good? However 13s is on the list..
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QUOTE(prelude23 @ Sep 26 2019, 05:31 PM)
Hey bro.

Any comments on Thinkbook 14s? I havent seen it on this list so does it mean that is not that good? However 13s is on the list..
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if XPS 13 with 10 th processor ?
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Hey bro.

Any comments on Thinkbook 14s? I havent seen it on this list so does it mean that is not that good? However 13s is on the list..
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Should be the same with Thinkbook 13s, though I need more confirmation on this. Not listed because it's out of stock when I was updating this list
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if XPS 13 with 10 th processor ?
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if XPS 13 with 10 th processor ?
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It cost more than an arm and an leg. It’s a highly premium stuff, about Apple MacBook level of premium.
https://pcper.com/2019/09/ice-lake-benchmar...065g7-vs-3700u/
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Hey bro.

Any comments on Thinkbook 14s? I havent seen it on this list so does it mean that is not that good? However 13s is on the list..
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I stopped reading further about it at 1 RAM slot, LOL...
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I stopped reading further about it at 1 RAM slot, LOL...
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actually I'm curious, would you prefer 1 upgradeable RAM slot (single channel only) or 2 soldered RAM?
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actually I'm curious, would you prefer 1 upgradeable RAM slot (single channel only) or 2 soldered RAM?
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1 upgradeable generally tops at 16GB the most, except for special case like MSI PS42, heard that it can upgrade to 32GB on its only slot.

While for the case of 2 soldered, I won’t settle for anything less than 16GB in total. Plain 8GB is gonna get obsoleted in near future at the rare smartphones getting their RAM bigger and bigger each years. Many premium ultrabooks charge >RM500 to upgrade from 8GB models to 16GB models, that’s their market strategy.

There’s a popular market practice nowadays of 4GB soldered + another module slot. This one is as bad as single channel single module in first case in the first scenario, but if it’s sub RM2k budget computer, I won’t complain much. For those 3k plus PC like L340 Gaming, that’s just plain stupid.

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It cost more than an arm and an leg. It’s a highly premium stuff, about Apple MacBook level of premium.
https://pcper.com/2019/09/ice-lake-benchmar...065g7-vs-3700u/
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XPS13-2182SG-FHD (7390S) RM4,800 -i5-10210U /8GB/ 256GB/ Intel 13.3"FHD /W10/ SIL / 1 YR PREM + ACC DMG
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XPS13-2182SG-FHD (7390S) RM4,800 -i5-10210U /8GB/ 256GB/ Intel 13.3"FHD /W10/ SIL / 1 YR PREM + ACC DMG
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Warranty too short, SSD and RAM too small for a device you’re paying almost 5 grands for.

Also, the 10th gen in this model is actually not much different from 8th gen. These are just overclocked and rebranded 8th gen.

True 10th gen is still too low yield, that’s why it’s only inside few ultra premium devices for the time being z

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I stopped reading further about it at 1 RAM slot, LOL...
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Why I need so many Ram for a business laptop?
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Why I need so many Ram for a business laptop?
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Why not? You certainly won’t like to utilise your memory >90% when you’re working around with your PC. 8GB is nothing after few programs running in the back or few pages of webs on browser.

Even smartphones are hitting over 10GB RAM in 2019, the requirements will only grow upwards, not stagnant.

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Also, the 10th gen in this model is actually not much different from 8th gen. These are just overclocked and rebranded 8th gen.
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Actually they have the same performance (if power limits are the same)
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Hi. Need help with recommendation please. Something light (<1.5kg) with good build quality. 8gb ram, at least 256 ssd. I don’t mind low sRGB but I need matte display. If only yoga s730 has matte display. Budget <3500 but can stretch a little bit if the option is good enough.
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Hi. Need help with recommendation please. Something light (<1.5kg) with good build quality. 8gb ram, at least 256 ssd. I don’t mind low sRGB but I need matte display. If only yoga s730 has matte display. Budget <3500 but can stretch a little bit if the option is good enough.
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Use code LENXCIMB: Lenovo Thinkpad T490 or X390. Or Thinkpad L390/L490

Will guide you on customization
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Why not? You certainly won’t like to utilise your memory >90% when you’re working around with your PC. 8GB is nothing after few programs running in the back or few pages of webs on browser.

Even smartphones are hitting over 10GB RAM in 2019, the requirements will only grow upwards, not stagnant.
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Well I'm looking at my budget around RM3k so this Thinkbook is really appealing cause of the price point.

Beggars cant be choosers.
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Well I'm looking at my budget around RM3k so this Thinkbook is really appealing cause of the price point.

Beggars cant be choosers.
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Eventhough for the moment Thinkpad isn’t under Citibank CCS 45% offer, I will say no harm waiting for few more days and see if they decide to include them later on. The sales should last till 6th October, don’t need to be too rush, especially on Thinkbook (except may be you interested and value the 10,000 AirAsia big points, then Thinkbook got the edge). The price of Thinkbook had been like that since months ago.

P/S: Thinkbook don’t support USB-C PD charging, which I consider quite a dealbreaker especially for thin ultrabooks.
https://www.notebookcheck.net/Lenovo-ThinkB...t.428235.0.html

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QUOTE(msacras @ Sep 28 2019, 08:28 PM)
Eventhough for the moment Thinkpad isn’t under Citibank CCS 45% offer, I will say no harm waiting for few more days and see if they decide to include them later on. The sales should last till 6th October, don’t need to be too rush, especially on Thinkbook (except may be you interested and value the 10,000 AirAsia big points, then Thinkbook got the edge). The price of Thinkbook had been like that since months ago.

P/S: Thinkbook don’t support USB-C PD charging, which I consider quite a dealbreaker especially for thin ultrabooks.
https://www.notebookcheck.net/Lenovo-ThinkB...t.428235.0.html
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Nope I'm not rushing.

Any laptop you suggest fits my budget other than this?

Any thoughts on Yoga 730?

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Nope I'm not rushing.

Any laptop you suggest fits my budget other than this?
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At the moment no thinkpads on sale.

For other brands, may be dell vostro you can get it for cheap and have an overall complete package, namely upgradable RAM and USB PD support. Price can range as low as 2.6k something to 3k++
https://www.dell.com/en-my/work/shop/busine...9542213myw10pro
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Nope I'm not rushing.

Any laptop you suggest fits my budget other than this?

Any thoughts on Yoga 730?
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Can consider Thinkpad L390/L490 with promo code
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Well I'm looking at my budget around RM3k so this Thinkbook is really appealing cause of the price point.

Beggars cant be choosers.
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actually, if if you dont insist on 14inches, you should go for thinkbook 13s, the cheapest model rm25xx, because
if 8gb and 256gb is not enough, you can always upgrade it to 16gb in future.

the 13s is better than 14s because 13s is using a better quality screen.

and frankly, the ability to upgrade to 16gb is more than enough, i dont think anyone need 2 ram slot for this think book.

the rm25xx model for 13s is good because it is using UD620, without GPU so the battery life would be better.

13.3” FHD (1920 x 1080) IPS antiglare with Dolby Vision™ HDR (300 nits, 72% CG)

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QUOTE(ohman @ Sep 28 2019, 09:35 PM)
you can always upgrade it to 16gb in future.

the 13s is better than 14s because 13s is using a better quality screen.

and frankly, the ability to upgrade to 16gb is more than enough, i dont think anyone need 2 ram slot for this think book.
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Need to take out 8GB and put in 16GB

Thanks for mentioning that 14s uses low sRGB display, I somehow messed up the info. Thought they both have high sRGB

What 2 RAM slots (or 1 soldered 1 slot) matters is dual channel. I found out that my laptop not only can achieve higher FPS in games, but also has slightly better system smoothness
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QUOTE(ZM Fong @ Sep 28 2019, 09:43 PM)
Need to take out 8GB and put in 16GB

Thanks for mentioning that 14s uses low sRGB display, I somehow messed up the info. Thought they both have high sRGB

What 2 RAM slots (or 1 soldered 1 slot) matters is dual channel. I found out that my laptop not only can achieve higher FPS in games, but also has slightly better system smoothness
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thinkbook targeting different people la laugh.gif i appreciate them for including a ram slot instead of soldered, given that many ultrabook only come with soldered 8gb . like x390 etc.

the lowest price for this TB 13s can go around rm21xx with all the shopback and voucher, that is a very solid price and throw in rm200, to change the ram to 16gb, that is really a steal.


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QUOTE(ohman @ Sep 28 2019, 09:35 PM)
actually, if if you dont insist on 14inches, you should go for thinkbook 13s, the cheapest model rm25xx, because
if 8gb and 256gb is not enough, you can always upgrade it to 16gb in future.

the 13s is better than 14s because 13s is using a better quality screen.

and frankly, the ability to upgrade to 16gb is more than enough, i dont think anyone need 2 ram slot for this think book.

the rm25xx model for 13s is good because it is using UD620, without GPU so the battery life would be better.

13.3” FHD (1920 x 1080) IPS antiglare with Dolby Vision™ HDR (300 nits, 72% CG)
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But that GPU will help if im into light gaming right? Thinkbook 13s come with GPU too for higher specs. Is that good?
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Thinkbook 13s come with GPU too for higher specs. Is that good?
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But that GPU will help if im into light gaming right? Thinkbook 13s come with GPU too for higher specs. Is that good?
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if you want GPU, go for the rm27xx one, that has a GPU with 2gb ram
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QUOTE(ZM Fong @ Sep 28 2019, 06:56 PM)
Use code LENXCIMB: Lenovo Thinkpad T490 or X390. Or Thinkpad L390/L490

Will guide you on customization
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The x390 looks nice. What config would you recommend for best value
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The x390 looks nice. What config would you recommend for best value
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i5-8265U, W10 Home, 8GB RAM (optional 16GB - note that it's soldered), 256GB NVMe SSD, FHD IPS 300 nits,

Optional: IR camera, WWAN, fingerprint reader, backlit keyboard
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i5-8265U, W10 Home, 8GB RAM (optional 16GB - note that it's soldered), 256GB NVMe SSD, FHD IPS 300 nits,

Optional: IR camera, WWAN, fingerprint reader, backlit keyboard
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I changed to 512 storage and only rm3500. Do you know until when is the LENXCIMB promo?
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I changed to 512 storage and only rm3500. Do you know until when is the LENXCIMB promo?
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no idea, buy now if you need one
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no idea, buy now if you need one
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Alright thanks man
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Alright thanks man
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no worries, do update once you've purchased
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Bought it! i5-8265U, 8gb 512gb and a few misc upgrades. Can't wait to get my hands on it in a few weeks. Thanks again ZM Fong.
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Bought it! i5-8265U, 8gb 512gb and a few misc upgrades. Can't wait to get my hands on it in a few weeks. Thanks again ZM Fong.
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good price indeed

no worries
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Hi ZM Fong!
My wife is looking for a laptop. Mostly will use for MS office and web browsing. Below are her requirements:
Budget: at most RM3000
Weight: around 1.3kg
screen: around 13inch

Would you recommend a few? Thanks
good power consumption as much as possible
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QUOTE(ejenmulder @ Oct 3 2019, 05:25 PM)
Hi ZM Fong!
My wife is looking for a laptop. Mostly will use for MS office and web browsing.  Below are her requirements:
Budget:  at most RM3000
Weight:  around 1.3kg
screen: around 13inch

Would you recommend a few? Thanks
good power consumption as much as possible
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Fine with 14 inch?
Fine with max 1.5kg?
No preference on battery life?
Mind low sRGB display and non-upgradeable RAM?
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ThinkBook 13s is a good buy?

current i7 16gb ram
add to 3 years warranty
rm3645
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QUOTE(ZM Fong @ Oct 3 2019, 06:12 PM)
Fine with 14 inch?
Fine with max 1.5kg?
No preference on battery life?
Mind low sRGB display and non-upgradeable RAM?
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For Swift 3 model , its there possibly to add RAM + memory ? with graphic card NOT those integrated graphic card
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For Swift 3 model , its there possibly to add RAM + memory ? with graphic card  NOT those integrated graphic card
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Soldered onboard ram.
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Soldered onboard ram.
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any particular swift model 3 to recommend ?
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any particular swift model 3 to recommend ?
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Am using the 50YA model with MX250. This laptop is good for work productivity. Not so much on gaming.
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Am using the 50YA model with MX250. This laptop is good for work productivity. Not so much on gaming.
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I see okay thanks 😊
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I see okay thanks 😊
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The good thing about this laptop is its aesthetics and weight, and not forgetting its high sRGB.

You plan on getting one?
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The good thing about this laptop is its aesthetics and weight, and not forgetting its high sRGB.

You plan on getting one?
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Year end .I reducing the selection to final few
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QUOTE(ZM Fong @ Oct 3 2019, 06:12 PM)
Fine with 14 inch?
Fine with max 1.5kg?
No preference on battery life?
Mind low sRGB display and non-upgradeable RAM?
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My wife responses:
OK with 14 inch screen
Prefer 1.3kg max weight
Prefer 10hrs minimum battery life
Don't mind with low sRGB
Prefer minimum 8G RAM and don't mind with non upgradable RAM
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QUOTE(sw1314 @ Oct 5 2019, 02:22 AM)
ThinkBook 13s is a good buy?

current i7 16gb ram
add to 3 years warranty
rm3645
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No need upgrade to i7, use 20% code if can (or the original code if it provides the same discount)
QUOTE(Spectreoutreach @ Oct 5 2019, 09:05 AM)
For Swift 3 model , its there possibly to add RAM + memory ? with graphic card  NOT those integrated graphic card
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54G or 55G? 54G: low sRGB+upgradeble RAM; 55G: high sRGB+soldered RAM
QUOTE(ejenmulder @ Oct 5 2019, 01:09 PM)
My wife responses:
OK with 14 inch screen
Prefer 1.3kg max weight
Prefer 10hrs minimum battery life
Don't mind with low sRGB
Prefer minimum 8G RAM and don't mind with non upgradable RAM
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Lenovo Ideapad 720s 13 Intel 81BV000BMJ / CMJ
Asus UX362F-AEL294T
Asus UX331F-ALEG010T

10 hrs battery life is a bit unrealistic tbh

I would suggest going up to 3.3k and get Thinkpad X390 with LENXCIMB code. Business grade
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Lenovo Ideapad 720s 13 Intel 81BV000BMJ / CMJ
Asus UX362F-AEL294T
Asus UX331F-ALEG010T

10 hrs battery life is a bit unrealistic tbh

I would suggest going up to 3.3k and get Thinkpad X390 with LENXCIMB code. Business grade
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Thanks for the recommendations bro. Just to be clear, LENXCIMB code is to be used on lenovo website right? TQ
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Thanks for the recommendations bro.  Just to be clear, LENXCIMB code is to be used on lenovo website right? TQ
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Lenovo quietly stop selling many ideapads...readying for Comet Lake+Ice Lake? hmm.gif
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Thanks for this great post!

I got some question.
1. Something like Lenovo Thinkpad T490, is still able to addon 1 more HDD? Normally in the website is main HDD is SSD. After that, I can mod it to add more HDD?

2. I saw Thinkpad E series is far more cheaper, due to AMD? What is cons of AMD if comparing with Intel?

3. Do you have any good article about diff Thinkpad E/L/T series? And diff T490/T490s/T5xx ?

Thanks!
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QUOTE(ardikapras @ Oct 8 2019, 11:22 AM)
Thanks for this great post!

I got some question.
1. Something like Lenovo Thinkpad T490, is still able to addon 1 more HDD? Normally in the website is main HDD is SSD. After that, I can mod it to add more HDD?

2. I saw Thinkpad E series is far more cheaper, due to AMD? What is cons of AMD if comparing with Intel?

3. Do you have any good article about diff Thinkpad E/L/T series? And diff T490/T490s/T5xx ?

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1. SSD or HDD only
2. E series is consumer grade instead of business grade, despite that they are very decent. AMD models are having promo now, that's why prices are cheaper (16GB RAM and 512GB SSD upgrades are cheap). Ryzen mobile APUs are decent, even though current 12nm ones lose out a bit in single core load, they usually have higher power limits which can sustain higher performance in longer loads
3. In general, P/T>X>L>E. T490s uses higher quality material (T490/T590 is still excellent)
https://www.reddit.com/r/thinkpad/comments/...internally_and/
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post Oct 10 2019, 01:46 PM

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My order is stuck now.

An import license is missing and is required for clearance.
Oct 10, 2019 10:57 am
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After searching, this is a common occurrence for Lenovo orders. I hope it will not be stuck there for a long time.

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post Oct 12 2019, 11:58 AM

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Hi all,
Good day. Just want to ask, between Asus UM462D and HP envy x360 13AR0094AU, which one is the better offer?

Both also with AMD Ryzen 5 3500U, but hp comes with smaller SSD and cost few hundred bucks. What difference makes it costs more than Asus?
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post Oct 12 2019, 12:43 PM

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QUOTE(mimi89 @ Oct 12 2019, 11:58 AM)
Hi all,
Good day. Just want to ask, between Asus UM462D and HP envy x360 13AR0094AU, which one is the better offer?

Both also with AMD Ryzen 5 3500U, but hp comes with smaller SSD and cost few hundred bucks. What difference makes it costs more than Asus?
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Umm neither? Can get business grade T495 or X395 if you want Ryzen
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post Oct 13 2019, 09:35 AM

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Hi, I was looking at this pc - https://tmt.my/product/thunderobot-911-air-...ptop-demo-unit/

It's not a well-known brand, and also I'm afraid I couldn't find any after sales service if any problem 🤔 + it a demo unit. But cause it has the spec I need for long term use and some minor gaming.

I'm also looking at HP Pavilion Gaming 15-DK0010TX (with upgrade of ram & ssd) and Lenovo Legion Y530 (with upgrade of ssd). The price are similar for these models, range from RM2800 - RM3300. What would you recommend?

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post Oct 13 2019, 11:51 AM

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QUOTE(leeling16 @ Oct 13 2019, 09:35 AM)
Hi, I was looking at this pc - https://tmt.my/product/thunderobot-911-air-...ptop-demo-unit/

It's not a well-known brand, and also I'm afraid I couldn't find any after sales service if any problem 🤔 + it a demo unit. But cause it has the spec I need for long term use and some minor gaming.

I'm also looking at HP Pavilion Gaming 15-DK0010TX (with upgrade of ram & ssd) and Lenovo Legion Y530 (with upgrade of ssd). The price are similar for these models, range from RM2800 - RM3300. What would you recommend?
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It's a Quanta based model, same as Aorus 5. Need lift up the laptop+max fans in order to cool CPU&GPU well

Pavilion Gaming is mediocre

wrong thread btw, refer to gaming laptop list
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QUOTE(ZM Fong @ Oct 13 2019, 11:51 AM)
It's a Quanta based model, same as Aorus 5. Need lift up the laptop+max fans in order to cool CPU&GPU well

Pavilion Gaming is mediocre

wrong thread btw, refer to gaming laptop list
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Opps... I thought I was at the gaming laptop thread. Anyway, thanks. 🙂
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Just to check, if our laptop come with integrated uhd graphic from intel, there is no way we can change the gpu or add additional card right? Assuming i dun care bout warranty.
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post Oct 13 2019, 07:07 PM

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QUOTE(ry8128 @ Oct 13 2019, 06:28 PM)
Just to check, if our laptop come with integrated uhd graphic from intel, there is no way we can change the gpu or add additional card right? Assuming i dun care bout warranty.
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Can use eGPU, but not worth it imo
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QUOTE(ZM Fong @ Oct 13 2019, 07:07 PM)
Can use eGPU, but not worth it imo
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Noted, meaning the only option is external right? No way anything can be done internally?
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post Oct 13 2019, 07:13 PM

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Noted, meaning the only option is external right? No way anything can be done internally?
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nope, can try online services like Geforce Now but need good internet connection
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nope, can try online services like Geforce Now but need good internet connection
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QUOTE(ry8128 @ Oct 13 2019, 07:19 PM)
Thanks bro for advice.
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post Oct 15 2019, 11:58 AM

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Actually, considering between the XPS 13, HP Spectre x360 and Envy right now. (open to other good options)

I'm looking for
1. Something light
2. Preferably with touchscreen (no also can lah)

Unfortunately the normal XPS 13 doesn't come with the touchscreen option, the 2-in-1 does though, cannot upgrade storage unless choose the i7 option too sad.gif

Price difference between the XPS 13 7390 2-in-1 with the Spectre x360 is a lot too. Can give some advice, sifu?

Also does anyone know how are the after-sale services for Dell or HP? Saw your first post for QC rank, does that include service?
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post Oct 15 2019, 06:09 PM

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QUOTE(Ladszy @ Oct 15 2019, 11:58 AM)
Actually, considering between the XPS 13, HP Spectre x360 and Envy right now. (open to other good options)

I'm looking for
1. Something light
2. Preferably with touchscreen (no also can lah)

Unfortunately the normal XPS 13 doesn't come with the touchscreen option, the 2-in-1 does though, cannot upgrade storage unless choose the i7 option too  sad.gif

Price difference between the XPS 13 7390 2-in-1 with the Spectre x360 is a lot too. Can give some advice, sifu?

Also does anyone know how are the after-sale services for Dell or HP? Saw your first post for QC rank, does that include service?
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What's your budget? For that price I would definitely go for business laptops
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QUOTE(ZM Fong @ Oct 15 2019, 06:09 PM)
What's your budget? For that price I would definitely go for business laptops
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Preferably under 5k. Actually dont mind going over a bit also if it's 512gb SSD. yeah definitely going for business laptops, just using this for normal stuff and watching anime.

Here's Dell's XPS 13 with 512gb's price

Took a look at the Thinkpad too, but I feel like the laptop itself doesn't look very premium at that price. No offense ya

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post Oct 15 2019, 11:25 PM

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QUOTE(Ladszy @ Oct 15 2019, 10:47 PM)
Preferably under 5k. Actually dont mind going over a bit also if it's 512gb SSD. yeah definitely going for business laptops, just using this for normal stuff and watching anime.

Here's Dell's XPS 13 with 512gb's price

Took a look at the Thinkpad too, but I feel like the laptop itself doesn't look very premium at that price. No offense ya

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XPS is consumer grade. Business grade (Thinkpad except E series/Latitude except 3000 series/Elitebook) is more premium
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QUOTE(ZM Fong @ Oct 15 2019, 11:25 PM)
XPS is consumer grade. Business grade (Thinkpad except E series/Latitude except 3000 series/Elitebook) is more premium
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Sorry but do you mind elaborating more on the consumer and business grade?

Oh I didn't know that the thinkpad x-series was more premium. I'll have a look at thw latitude and elitebook ltr. Actually just need a light one easy to bring out and do uni stuff haha

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post Oct 16 2019, 12:41 AM

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QUOTE(Ladszy @ Oct 16 2019, 12:28 AM)
Sorry but do you mind elaborating more on the consumer and business grade?

Oh I didn't know that the thinkpad x-series was more premium. I'll have a look at thw latitude and elitebook ltr. Actually just need a light one easy to bring out and do uni stuff haha
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Business grade: higher QC+QA, usually 3 yr warranty

Thinkpad in general: P>T>X>L>E
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QUOTE(ZM Fong @ Oct 16 2019, 12:41 AM)
Business grade: higher QC+QA, usually 3 yr warranty

Thinkpad in general: P>T>X>L>E
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Ahh I see, in your opinion, usually need that long of a warranty?

Took a look at the latitude 5000, seems not bad, bit heavier than the XPS. But the 7000 seems really good, I'm curious why this isn't getting enough attention compared to the xps though?

Actually would you know any other ultrabooks I should be looking at?

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post Oct 16 2019, 12:52 PM

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QUOTE(Ladszy @ Oct 16 2019, 12:55 AM)
Ahh I see, in your opinion, usually need that long of a warranty?

Took a look at the latitude 5000, seems not bad, bit heavier than the XPS. But the 7000 seems really good, I'm curious why this isn't getting enough attention compared to the xps though?

Actually would you know any other ultrabooks I should be looking at?
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Longer the better of course

Bcoz not everyone likes business style design (old fashion?), many ppl prefer stylish design which can be found in many consumer grade laptops like XPS 13

Refer here for business grade Ultrabooks under 5k: https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4771316 (note that prices haven't updated)
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QUOTE(ZM Fong @ Oct 16 2019, 12:41 AM)
Business grade: higher QC+QA, usually 3 yr warranty

Thinkpad in general: P>T>X>L>E
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Also another bonus point - due to the fact that companies tend to keep their laptops longer, the laptops are also made to be easy to maintain, repair or upgrade icon_idea.gif

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QUOTE(Lalalala99 @ Oct 10 2019, 01:46 PM)
My order is stuck now.

An import license is missing and is required for clearance.
Oct 10, 2019 10:57 am
Sepang, Malaysia

After searching, this is a common occurrence for Lenovo orders. I hope it will not be stuck there for a long time.
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Where did you buy the machine? hmm.gif
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post Nov 2 2019, 06:49 PM

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QUOTE(chocobo7779 @ Nov 2 2019, 05:26 PM)
Also another bonus point - due to the fact that companies tend to keep their laptops longer, the laptops are also made to be easy to maintain, repair or upgrade icon_idea.gif
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Agreed, but upgradability not so much right now (soldered RAM)
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Hello,

I'm planning to get a thin laptop for my gf for normal office use.
Currently eyeing on Asus Zenbook UM462D-AAI501T and Huawei MateBook D.

Any opinion on this 2?
My gf don't want business grade cause of the look doh.gif

Budget around 3k

Asus seems nice as it's 512GB SSD and battery life seems good, but thickness wise seems a bit thick?

Anyone used either of it can give some review?
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QUOTE(miong93 @ Nov 4 2019, 07:10 PM)
My gf don't want business grade cause of the look doh.gif
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haha I can totally understand that

UM462 actually has lower battery capacity compared to Intel counterpart UX462, so expect battery life of 7 hrs or less

Preferred max weight and min battery life? Mind low sRGB display and non-upgradeable RAM?
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QUOTE(ZM Fong @ Nov 4 2019, 08:32 PM)
haha I can totally understand that

UM462 actually has lower battery capacity compared to Intel counterpart UX462, so expect battery life of 7 hrs or less

Preferred max weight and min battery life? Mind low sRGB display and non-upgradeable RAM?
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Yeah so I'm struggling to get one now biggrin.gif

Preference will be:
- Thin & lightweight (no need to be thinnest and lightest, i know my budget cant achieve biggrin.gif )
- 7 or 8 hours of battery life is good enough tho, I doubt she will work so long without plugged in
- sRGB don't really matter much, cause she is not those eye candy type, she just need to get work done
- as long as it's 8gb ram it's fine, else 4gb + top up to add another 4gb
- 256 / 512 SSD (no need pcie also can)
- 14 / 13 inch
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QUOTE(miong93 @ Nov 5 2019, 01:31 PM)
Yeah so I'm struggling to get one now biggrin.gif

Preference will be:
- Thin & lightweight (no need to be thinnest and lightest, i know my budget cant achieve biggrin.gif )
- 7 or 8 hours of battery life is good enough tho, I doubt she will work so long without plugged in
- sRGB don't really matter much, cause she is not those eye candy type, she just need to get work done
- as long as it's 8gb ram it's fine, else 4gb + top up to add another 4gb
- 256 / 512 SSD (no need pcie also can)
- 14 / 13 inch
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RM3k can get decent consumer grade models under 1.5kg:
Lenovo Thinkbook 13s 20R900DWMJ: upgradeable RAM (1 slot), 3 yr warranty
Acer Swift 3 SF314-55-54A3/5699
Acer Spin 5 SP513-53N-52HJ
Lenovo Ideapad S540-14API 81NH000MMJ: low sRGB IPS
Acer Swift 3 SF314-41-R0CS/R2YE +RAM : low sRGB IPS but has upgradeable RAM (1 soldered, 1 slot)

X395 is having sale now, just saying
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QUOTE(ZM Fong @ Nov 5 2019, 02:03 PM)
RM3k can get decent consumer grade models under 1.5kg:
Lenovo Thinkbook 13s 20R900DWMJ: upgradeable RAM (1 slot), 3 yr warranty
Acer Swift 3 SF314-55-54A3/5699
Acer Spin 5 SP513-53N-52HJ
Lenovo Ideapad S540-14API 81NH000MMJ: low sRGB IPS
Acer Swift 3 SF314-41-R0CS/R2YE +RAM : low sRGB IPS but has upgradeable RAM (1 soldered, 1 slot)

X395 is having sale now, just saying
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I only see you recommend lenovo and acer, how about other brand like the one I mention ? Asus and Matebook D ?
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QUOTE(miong93 @ Nov 5 2019, 03:03 PM)
I only see you recommend lenovo and acer, how about other brand like the one I mention ? Asus and Matebook D ?
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Asus laptops have poor QC+QA in general...avoid if possible unless you're willing to take the risk. Same goes to Huawei laptops
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Hi is there any ultrabook for around 2k?

looking for thin and light laptop with SSD


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QUOTE(squareballs @ Nov 18 2019, 11:53 AM)
Hi is there any ultrabook for around 2k?

looking for thin and light laptop with SSD
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Acer Swift 3 SF314-41-R0CS/R2YE +RAM
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Hi. Is HP Envy 13-aq1002tx a good pick? I like its look and feel. Maybe I'm looking for a bit more info before making decision.
XPS is more expensive with the same specs.
I don't need touchscreen, I think it will help keep the battery life longer (maybe)?
And what is the diff bw HP aq and ah btw?
Thank you
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QUOTE(KD1994 @ Nov 21 2019, 03:03 PM)
Hi. Is HP Envy 13-aq1002tx a good pick? I like its look and feel. Maybe I'm looking for a bit more info before making decision.
XPS is more expensive with the same specs.
I don't need touchscreen, I think it will help keep the battery life longer (maybe)?
And what is the diff bw HP aq and ah btw?
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I would prefer Thinkpad X395, better built

Touchscreen don't affect battery life much

Envy aq and ah is basically the same
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Thank you for your advice.
My gf doesn't like its look unfortunately sweat.gif
I will wait and hope Envy will have black friday sale then
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Any good deals for black Friday?
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lenovo got 12.12 sales? will it be better deal than black friday or cyber monday?
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Any good deals for black Friday?
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QUOTE(popice2u @ Dec 3 2019, 03:13 PM)
lenovo got 12.12 sales? will it be better deal than black friday or cyber monday?
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Let me know if got.
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follow this thread for deals
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Got myself a T590. Glad that it has a 3 year warranty. Looking to use this one for a long long time.
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QUOTE(Sole X @ Dec 26 2019, 10:10 AM)
Got myself a T590. Glad that it has a 3 year warranty. Looking to use this one for a long long time.
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how much?
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how much?
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Traded it with my gaming laptop and top-up a bit. But seems like from the Lenovo website you can get it now for below 4k.
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1. Budget: around 4.5k
2. Usage: Video streaming/basic Microsoft Office functions, website browsing and article reading (FB etc), virtual box
3. Requirements good battery life, weight below 2kg slim design
4. Nice RGB, 16GB ram
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QUOTE(SeconDz @ Jan 7 2020, 11:11 AM)
Nice RGB
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You mean sRGB?
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Yeah, thanks 😅
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Below RM4k:
Lenovo Thinkpad T495 400 nits: upgrade RAM after purchase
Lenovo Thinkpad X395 300 nits / T495s 400 nits: opt for 16GB RAM
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Below RM4k:
Lenovo Thinkpad T495 400 nits: upgrade RAM after purchase
Lenovo Thinkpad X395 300 nits / T495s 400 nits: opt for 16GB RAM
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Hi Sifu, can you let.me know what's the difference between T495 vs T495s?

Also, would you recommend upgrading CPU to Ryzen 7 Pro 3700U or maintaining at Ryzen 5 Pro 3500U?

Thanks!
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QUOTE(reawakening @ Jan 18 2020, 06:53 AM)
Hi Sifu, can you let.me know what's the difference between T495 vs T495s?

Also, would you recommend upgrading CPU to Ryzen 7 Pro 3700U or maintaining at Ryzen 5 Pro 3500U?

Thanks!
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T495s: thinner+lighter, non-upgradeable RAM, less cooling room+lower power limits (18w)

Only get R7 if you really need the extra iGPU performance, otherwise R7 not worth it
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Can I ask whether to buy envy 13 or xps 13?
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QUOTE(maxchan1982 @ Jan 27 2020, 08:13 AM)
Can I ask whether to buy envy 13 or xps 13?
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How about neither?
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How about neither?
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I mean if I wanna buy, eny 13 better or xps 13, better?
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QUOTE(maxchan1982 @ Jan 27 2020, 05:59 PM)
I mean if I wanna buy, eny 13 better or xps 13, better?
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XPS, but I would highly suggest business laptop for that price
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QUOTE(ZM Fong @ Jan 27 2020, 10:39 PM)
XPS, but I would highly suggest business laptop for that price
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Means that you would suggest the business laptop in the thread you post, right?
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QUOTE(maxchan1982 @ Jan 28 2020, 12:03 AM)
Means that you would suggest the business laptop in the thread you post, right?
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Hi, would you be able to help me to recommend a notebook:
1. I am looking for thinkpad brand, but not sure yet on which model. Can be T series or X series or other series, up to X1 carbon.
2. Budget can vary from 4k to 8k. It doesn't have to be the cheapest or the most expensive, but the optimal or the best spec for the given price.
3. Processor can be i5 or i7, 8th gen or 10th gen I think doesn't really matter. But memory needs to be 16gb and hdd minimum 512ssd, or 1tb ssd.
4. Daily usage for heavy surfing, can open many windows, 24 hours download torrent, watch movies, and light gaming.
5. Need recommendation on where to buy with the cheapest price, or lower than retail price with reliable shop.
Many thanks in advance.
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QUOTE(cannasu_w @ Feb 8 2020, 04:39 PM)
Hi, would you be able to help me to recommend a notebook:
1. I am looking for thinkpad brand, but not sure yet on which model. Can be T series or X series or other series, up to X1 carbon.
2. Budget can vary from 4k to 8k. It doesn't have to be the cheapest or the most expensive, but the optimal or the best spec for the given price.
3. Processor can be i5 or i7, 8th gen or 10th gen I think doesn't really matter. But memory needs to be 16gb and hdd minimum 512ssd, or 1tb ssd.
4. Daily usage for heavy surfing, can open many windows, 24 hours download torrent, watch movies, and light gaming.
5. Need recommendation on where to buy with the cheapest price, or lower than retail price with reliable shop.
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May I know what games do you play? Preferred max weight in kg?

Most of the time Thinkpads need to be bought from Lenovo website
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May I know what games do you play? Preferred max weight in kg?

Most of the time Thinkpads need to be bought from Lenovo website
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At the moment the games using emulator, not the graphic/resource hungry ones.

Prefer lighter ones, but the screen size minimum is 13.3 inch, max is 14 inch. Can be FHD or UHD.

Thanks.
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At the moment the games using emulator, not the graphic/resource hungry ones.

Prefer lighter ones, but the screen size minimum is 13.3 inch, max is 14 inch. Can be FHD or UHD.

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may i know can i buy consumer model for business ?
scare of microsoft fine $$$ if im not commercial unit. bangwall.gif bangwall.gif
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may i know can i buy consumer model for business ?
scare of microsoft fine $$$ if im not commercial unit. bangwall.gif  bangwall.gif
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sorry but I don't quite understand your question?
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sorry but I don't quite understand your question?
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what i mean is i can buy consumer model for business environment?
because i heard that must use commercial unit for business..
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what i mean is i can buy consumer model for business environment?
because i heard that must use commercial unit for business..
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Hi sifu,any comment about acer aspire 3, planning to buy one for office use
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what i mean is i can buy consumer model for business environment?
because i heard that must use commercial unit for business..
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No such restrictions.... the main reason for business class laptops is for the ease of repair/upgrade (by the IT departments of businesses) + durability... specific example: Lenovo's Thinkpads/Thinkbooks.....

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may i know can i buy consumer model for business ?
scare of microsoft fine $$$ if im not commercial unit. bangwall.gif  bangwall.gif
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MS will/may fine businesses if they use illegal software by them:Office...regardless of the laptop class/device you use...

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Thinkbooks.....
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Thinkbook is Ideapad rebrand (consumer grade)
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Thinkbook is Ideapad rebrand (consumer grade)
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Lower end "business class" as designated by lenovo themselves.... quality like a high-end ideapad but for business with features no ideapad has: spillproof keyboard....

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Are there any good light 16 by 10 ratio laptop at rm3000 price range
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Are there any good light 16 by 10 ratio laptop at rm3000 price range
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Are there any good light 16 by 10 ratio laptop at rm3000 price range
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New Acer Spin 5, and the much more expensive new Dell XPS 13
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At the moment the games using emulator, not the graphic/resource hungry ones.

Prefer lighter ones, but the screen size minimum is 13.3 inch, max is 14 inch. Can be FHD or UHD.

Thanks.
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Lenovo Yoga Slim 7 (14), with UHD, ice-lake CPU w MX330/350 option... RM4.6k to 4.9k...

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Hi guys,

I’m currently looking for an ultra book with the following preference:

-thin and light (below 1.4kg)
-not for heavy gaming (max also maybe csgo)
-4K display is an advantage
-preferably i7 gen10
-ssd500gb
-16gb ddr
-budget below 6k if possible

I have short listed:

X1 carbon, yoga c940 and x390. Please advise and suggest other brand if I missed out any good models out there.
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QUOTE(mizkentz @ Mar 7 2020, 02:40 PM)
Hi guys,

I’m currently looking for an ultra book with the following preference:

-thin and light (below 1.4kg)
-not for heavy gaming (max also maybe csgo)
-4K display is an advantage
-preferably i7 gen10
-ssd500gb
-16gb ddr
-budget below 6k if possible

I have short listed:

X1 carbon, yoga c940 and x390. Please advise and suggest other brand if I missed out any good models out there.
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May I know why would you want a 4k display?

Also, 10th gen ULV (CML, IL) isn't really faster than 8th gen ULV (KBL-R, WHL)

Mind low sRGB display and non-upgradeable RAM? Any preference on battery life? Need dGPU/decent iGPU?
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QUOTE(mizkentz @ Mar 7 2020, 02:40 PM)
Hi guys,

I’m currently looking for an ultra book with the following preference:

-thin and light (below 1.4kg)
-not for heavy gaming (max also maybe csgo)
-4K display is an advantage
-preferably i7 gen10
-ssd500gb
-16gb ddr
-budget below 6k if possible

I have short listed:

X1 carbon, yoga c940 and x390. Please advise and suggest other brand if I missed out any good models out there.
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Specifically 4k....Yoga slim7 (14)
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May I know why would you want a 4k display?

Mostly for 4K movies and video streaming.

Also, 10th gen ULV (CML, IL) isn't really faster than 8th gen ULV (KBL-R, WHL)
I’m ok to that as I need a i7 mainly to run afew business software I.e. ifca, and afew data analytics software at once during work and any lag or hang issue will really be a no no.

Mind low sRGB display and non-upgradeable RAM? Any preference on battery life? Need dGPU/decent iGPU?
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Preferabally a non srgb and upgradable ram. But I can live with a 16gb non-upgradable ram.
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QUOTE(BeastX @ Mar 7 2020, 03:20 PM)
Specifically 4k....Yoga slim7 (14)
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I don’t mind picking the yoga. But also to add on:

I don’t need a touch scree that the yoga is offering,
The thinkpad keyboard is really an advantage.
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QUOTE(mizkentz @ Mar 7 2020, 04:02 PM)
Preferabally a non srgb and upgradable ram. But I can live with a 16gb non-upgradable ram.
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FYI i5 ULV and i7 ULV don't have much performance difference

Keep in mind that UHD/4k display will have shorter battery life and windows scaling issue in general. You still prefer 4k display?

low sRGB = colours less vibrant. I guess you need high sRGB?
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QUOTE(mizkentz @ Mar 7 2020, 04:06 PM)
I don’t mind picking the yoga. But also to add on:

I don’t need a touch scree that the yoga is offering,
The thinkpad keyboard is really an advantage.
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Actually the Yoga slim 7 (14).... does not do the 360 Yoga.. and does not touch/pen support....limited to 8gb (lenovo my) RAM though

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QUOTE(ZM Fong @ Mar 7 2020, 05:20 PM)
FYI i5 ULV and i7 ULV don't have much performance difference

Keep in mind that UHD/4k display will have shorter battery life and windows scaling issue in general. You still prefer 4k display?

low sRGB = colours less vibrant. I guess you need high sRGB?
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However i7 10710U big difference... 2 additional cores...
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QUOTE(ZM Fong @ Mar 7 2020, 05:20 PM)
FYI i5 ULV and i7 ULV don't have much performance difference

Keep in mind that UHD/4k display will have shorter battery life and windows scaling issue in general. You still prefer 4k display?

Erm batter life wise I’m ok cause I don’t work continues for long hours max I think about 4-6 hours stretch before I take a break and can do 1-2 hours charging. 4K wise I guess I still can live with a uhd since 14” I think won’t make a big diff.

low sRGB = colours less vibrant. I guess you need high sRGB?
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Ya I need a high srgb, made a mistake in my reply earlier.
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Actually the Yoga slim 7 (14).... does not do the 360 Yoga.. and has not touch/pen support....limited to 8gb (lenovo my) RAM though
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Ya that’s why I opt for the c940 since they offer th 16gb
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However i7 10710U big difference... 2 additional cores...
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Was thinking the same too. And I plan to keep the laptop for a few years so i7 might help before I need to get a new replacement.
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Was thinking the same too. And I plan to keep the laptop for a few years so i7 might help before I need to get a new replacement.
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it's the long in tooth 14nm..... wait for a month or 2 for the 8 core 4000 series @7nm
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What about remanufactured ones? Been using consumer laptops since starting biz 2 years back and started failing eg laggy, crashes, etc despite using ori Win 10 & Office. Times are bad nowadays so I’m hunting for used instead but had bad experiences with refurbished ones. Recently I came across “remanufactured” enterprise grade laptops which is half the cost of its current model. Anyone tried before?
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it's the long in tooth 14nm..... wait for a month or 2 for the 8 core 4000 series @7nm
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Will that 8core be an issue given my budget below 6k? I don’t need an over kill processor.
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QUOTE(mizkentz @ Mar 7 2020, 05:44 PM)
Ya I need a high srgb, made a mistake in my reply earlier.
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Since Thinkpad X1C G7 UHD is out of your budget, might want to stick with consumer grade laptops

Can consider Lenovo Yoga C940 customize (i7 only if want 4k display) or Yoga Slim 7 14 customize (not convertible, with low power MX GPU, max 8GB RAM since Lenovo doesn't provide upgrade for whatever reason)
QUOTE(BeastX @ Mar 7 2020, 05:42 PM)
However i7 10710U big difference... 2 additional cores...
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that one is exception, and it's still rare to be found (since it's expensive due to being a binned chip)

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QUOTE(ZM Fong @ Mar 7 2020, 07:15 PM)
Since Thinkpad X1C G7 UHD is out of your budget, might want to stick with consumer grade laptops

Can consider Lenovo Yoga C940 customize (i7 only if want 4k display) or Yoga Slim 7 14 customize (not convertible, with low power MX GPU, max 8GB RAM since Lenovo doesn't provide upgrade for whatever reason)

that one is exception, and it's still rare to be found (since it's expensive due to being a binned chip)
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The x1 carbon g7 is going for about 6.2k will all the discount which I don’t mind topping up. Will it be a good buy given my requirements?
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Will that 8core be an issue given my budget below 6k? I don’t need an over kill processor.
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Should not be too much of a price premium....should be similar to the 3000 variants now...

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The x1 carbon g7 is going for about 6.2k will all the discount which I don’t mind topping up. Will it be a good buy given my requirements?
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If you want better guarantee on reliability then yes
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Is dell precision 5530 (i7-8850h + Quadro p2000 ) a good choice for video editing? I found on Facebook marketplace with price around 4500rm?
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If you want better guarantee on reliability then yes
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Any idea for the units that the Lenovo website states “ship in 5 days” takes to arrive in kl? I check with the online customer care they told me can receive in 7-8 working Days while ppl from Lenovo digital mall said usually 7-8 weeks.
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Any idea for the units that the Lenovo website states “ship in 5 days” takes to arrive in kl? I check with the online customer care they told me can receive in 7-8 working Days while ppl from Lenovo digital mall said usually 7-8 weeks.
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Given that many factories in China are off-line... it'll be difficult to give a time even by Lenovo themselves... especially with customised parts (build to as the order comes in..)...
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Given that many factories in China are off-line... it'll be difficult to give a time even by Lenovo themselves... especially with customised parts (build to as the order comes in..)...
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Does the non custom models also have such delivery issue?
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Is dell precision 5530 (i7-8850h + Quadro p2000 ) a good choice for video editing? I found on Facebook marketplace with price around 4500rm?
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Does the non custom models also have such delivery issue?
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Any idea for the units that the Lenovo website states “ship in 5 days” takes to arrive in kl? I check with the online customer care they told me can receive in 7-8 working Days while ppl from Lenovo digital mall said usually 7-8 weeks.
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I bought my T495s on Tuesday, and received it Saturday morning.

It took roughly one full day for it to arrive from China to KLIA - but then got stock in customs for 2 days.
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QUOTE(mizkentz @ Mar 8 2020, 11:09 AM)
Any idea for the units that the Lenovo website states “ship in 5 days” takes to arrive in kl? I check with the online customer care they told me can receive in 7-8 working Days while ppl from Lenovo digital mall said usually 7-8 weeks.
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I would say u must factor in minimum delivery time (after ship out) of at least 1 week, due to its famous license missing issue. All 3 lenovo i bought facing this issue.
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QUOTE(Nightengale @ Mar 8 2020, 12:10 PM)
I bought my T495s on Tuesday, and received it Saturday morning.

It took roughly one full day for it to arrive from China to KLIA - but then got stock in customs for 2 days.
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Do u have license missing issue? Seems like urs is very fast. Can show the tracking from china to klia in 1 day?
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I would say u must factor in minimum delivery time (after ship out) of at least 1 week, due to its famous license missing issue. All 3 lenovo i bought facing this issue.
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Just got the X1 Carbon ordered on 8 March wohoo

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Just got the X1 Carbon ordered on 8 March wohoo

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Nice! So u ordered on 8th, and receive today? Very fast..

Is it shipped out from Malaysia? Or from China?
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Nice! So u ordered on 8th, and receive today? Very fast..

Is it shipped out from Malaysia? Or from China?
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Singapore-> Shenzhen, China > malaysia

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Singapore-> Shenzhen, China > malaysia
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No license missing issue? U are staying in penang?

My Y7000 shipped out on 2nd March, and only today I received it. License missing cost me 5 days including weekends.
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No license missing issue? U are staying in penang?

My Y7000 shipped out on 2nd March, and only today I received it. License missing cost me 5 days including weekends.
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License missing issue was sorted out within 5 mins lol. 9.40 license issue , 9.45 arrival scan. based on ups tacking status.
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License missing issue was sorted out within 5 mins lol. 9.40 license issue , 9.45 arrival scan. based on ups tacking status.
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You are so lucky bro.
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You are so lucky bro.
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Just a quick question. my keyboard when i hit shift+2 by right its suppose to show @ but its showing ". and when i hit shit+ " it shows @. how do i change it back to the work as normal keyboard?
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Just a quick question. my keyboard when i hit shift+2 by right its suppose to show @ but its showing ". and when i hit shit+ " it shows @. how do i change it back to the work as normal keyboard?
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You can change the keyboard layout in control panel. I can't remember exactly where, but there is an option for it.
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You can change the keyboard layout in control panel. I can't remember exactly where, but there is an option for it.
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ok got it fixed. thanks
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ok got it fixed. thanks
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How u fix it? Is it related to UK and US layout?
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How u fix it? Is it related to UK and US layout?
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ctrl+shift+2

only fix that particular key
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How light do you need? give a max kg
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can get Thinkpad like X395, or Latitude like 5300
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Any recommendations for lightest notebook like surface pro?
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new acer swift 3.. (SF313-52), 3:2 screen, 2256x1504 res....non touch, 1.15kg

https://www.ultrabookreview.com/35311-acer-...f313-52-review/

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can get Thinkpad like X395, or Latitude like 5300
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new acer swift 3.. (SF313-52), 3:2 screen, 2256x1504 res....non touch, 1.15kg

https://www.ultrabookreview.com/35311-acer-...f313-52-review/
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I change my mind now and looking for lightest + high performance to edit 4K video.
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I change my mind now and looking for lightest + high performance to edit 4K video.
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1st range of budget: 4000-4999
2nd range of budget: 5000-6000 max

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Illegear Prodigy 63Wh
Level51 Vapor 15 Pro

Both below 2kg
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dell xps boh ngam??
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bo ngam.. i always hear the fan spinning sound
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serious? wat yr ur xps? haha

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serious? wat yr ur xps? haha

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this one powerful or not to do 4K video editing?
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this one powerful or not to do 4K video editing?
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how intense ur 4k editing? hobbyist or professional?

professional 1 come with weight...

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how intense ur 4k editing? hobbyist or professional?

professional 1 come with weight...

Precision M3540
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AMD Radeon Pro WX2100 with 2GB GDDR5 Windows 10 Pro 
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I dont want Dell liao.. Currently using Precision M2800 and i wanna yuck
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Hobby + Professional = mixed.

I dont want Dell liao.. Currently using Precision M2800 and i wanna yuck
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m2800... wtf.. tat is last century technology de.. haha.. u should try lenovo P series than... p1 gen 2
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m2800... wtf.. tat is last century technology de.. haha.. u should try lenovo P series than... p1 gen 2
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when I bought, it was not last century mah..

Somemore this Dell is still cooperating with AMD Radeon Pro... Mine one M2800, the AMD GPU is like pasu bunga and sitting there without being used or work as it should be.

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when I bought, it was not last century mah..

Somemore this Dell is still cooperating with AMD Radeon Pro... Mine one M2800, the AMD GPU is like pasu bunga and sitting there without being used or work as it should be.
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i understand ur feel.. m 2800 is trash kao kao... haha
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when I bought, it was not last century mah..

Somemore this Dell is still cooperating with AMD Radeon Pro... Mine one M2800, the AMD GPU is like pasu bunga and sitting there without being used or work as it should be.
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How about Illegear Ionic?
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I thought you want high performance?
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high performance ... dell G7 or precision 7740... hehe

too bad budget not much.. if not lenovo p73... haha xeon mobile wif 128GB ecc ram + rtx 5000
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ya
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QUOTE(myway1985 @ Mar 23 2020, 10:46 PM)
u now sangkut at sunway ah
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high performance ... dell G7 or precision 7740... hehe

too bad budget not much.. if not lenovo p73... haha xeon mobile wif 128GB ecc ram + rtx 5000
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17.3 is so big. Must be very heavy.

QUOTE(ZM Fong @ Mar 24 2020, 12:36 AM)
then don't go for Ultrabook

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Not necessary must be ultra but need lightest weight la.
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17.3 is so big. Must be very heavy.
Not necessary must be ultra but need lightest weight la.
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Not sure you can get in MY or not...
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17.3 is so big. Must be very heavy.
Not necessary must be ultra but need lightest weight la.
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Bro.. starting price 12k.. haha.. focus on p1 gen 2.. the lightest of p series.. but design ugly...

Oh ya.. xps 7590 dfo ngam?
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Bro.. starting price 12k.. haha.. focus on p1 gen 2.. the lightest of p series.. but design ugly...

Oh ya.. xps 7590 dfo ngam?
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can do editing or not for 4k videos
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I change my mind now and looking for lightest + high performance to edit 4K video.
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Well if you want to view the full 4k resolution too... slim 7 with intel 10nm ice-lake, note AMD's 7nm variant will be hopefully release soon too...

https://www.lenovo.com/my/en/laptops/yoga/y...5/p/88YGS701396

QUOTE(jack2 @ Mar 24 2020, 10:02 AM)
can do editing or not for 4k videos
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dGPU combine with Ice-lake's G4/G7 instructions will speed up decoding/encoding... edit: Unfortunately cannot apply to Slim 7 options @Lenovo MY...

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can do editing or not for 4k videos
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Which 1? Xps 13 2 in 1 fan less can do 4k video editing de.. lol.. the p73 we do 5k resolution, oppo Reno 2 launching video tat 1 with 10k (by definition 12840 x 3440) resolution oso can do...
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QUOTE(BeastX @ Mar 24 2020, 10:37 AM)
Well if you want to view the full 4k resolution too... slim 7 with intel 10nm ice-lake, note AMD's 7nm variant will be hopefully release soon too...

https://www.lenovo.com/my/en/laptops/yoga/y...5/p/88YGS701396
dGPU combine with Ice-lake's G4/G7 instructions will speed up decoding/encoding... edit: Unfortunately cannot apply to Slim 7 options @Lenovo MY...
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how about no slim but lightest in wegiht?
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Bro.. starting price 12k.. haha.. focus on p1 gen 2.. the lightest of p series.. but design ugly...

Oh ya.. xps 7590 dfo ngam?
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7390 ok no
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7390 ok no
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anyone tried buying laptops from shopee/lazada before?

I'm very afraid to buy from unofficial sites :/
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anyone tried buying laptops from shopee/lazada before?

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Many of them are authorized resellers and some of them do have physical stores
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Do all the Acer Swift 3 listed in your high sRGB list cover >95% of sRGB?
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not all, refer to the list
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14 inch max screen
32gb ram
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lightweight

budget up to 5k
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14 inch max screen
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lightweight

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Max weight in kg? Any preference on battery life?

You mean 150 tabs? (50x3)
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Max weight in kg? Any preference on battery life?

You mean 150 tabs? (50x3)
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Lightweight if possible.

Love the new ryzen 4000 from asus

Budget can be up to 7-8k

Yes, small gaming also ok
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Lightweight if possible.

Love the new ryzen 4000 from asus

Budget can be up to 7-8k

Yes, small gaming also ok
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Please answer my questions so that i can help you:
Max weight in kg? ('lightweight' is too general)
Any preference on battery life?
Able to wait for 1-2 months?
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Please answer my questions so that i can help you:
Max weight in kg? ('lightweight' is too general)
Any preference on battery life?
Able to wait for 1-2 months?
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Thanks buddy

Around below 1.9kg
1 month is ok.

Battey life 10 hours
Good in meeting - was thinking to get macbook but then i also gaming so yeah windows. G14 asus seems like great choice but then dont know when launched here..or anyone got kaki ke
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Thanks buddy

Around below 1.9kg
1 month is ok.

Battey life 10 hours
Good in meeting - was thinking to get macbook but then i also gaming so yeah windows. G14 asus seems like great choice but then dont know when launched here..or anyone got kaki ke
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G14 isn't bad but not without issues, would suggest wait for a month for possible new models
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Thanks buddy

Around below 1.9kg
1 month is ok.

Battey life 10 hours
Good in meeting - was thinking to get macbook but then i also gaming so yeah windows. G14 asus seems like great choice but then dont know when launched here..or anyone got kaki ke
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For 10hr battery life grade commercial use laptop ah..I think

1. Mac
2. Xps 13
3. Lenovo x1 (some might say x1 extreme better)
4. Latitude 7400(still 8th gen processor)
5. Xps 17(very little hope tat it will be available here as retail brand new, dfo mayb got)
6. Msi p75

Tbh asus better skip la.. when an IT manufacturer pump money into hiring "influencers" than improving their thermal control.. u know they hv a problems.
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hi i have tight budget around 1.5 to 2k

can get good laptop with 1.5kg or below and use for photoshop, website dev and play some dota at low setting also can.

im eyeing on this

1. rm1878 Lenovo Ideapad S340-14API 81NB0081MJ / 81NB009XMJ - R5-3500U, 4GB, 512GB, FHD TN

2. rm1729 Asus Laptop M409D-ABV066T 14" Silver ( Ryzen R3-3200, 4GB, 512GB, ATI, W10 )

3. rm1888 HP 14s-dk0108au - Gold (AMD Ryzen 5-3500U/4GB/256GB/14"/Vega 8/No

4. Chuwi Herobook Pro 2020 8GB 256GB SSD Fast Speed Intel N4000 slim light view Notebook laptop (1 year warranty) for RM1,179.00.

which one is gooding and worthy to pick ah.
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QUOTE(Fman @ May 14 2020, 12:06 PM)
hi i have tight budget around 1.5 to 2k

can get good laptop with 1.5kg or below and use for photoshop, website dev and play some dota at low setting also can.

im eyeing on this

1. rm1878 Lenovo Ideapad S340-14API 81NB0081MJ / 81NB009XMJ - R5-3500U, 4GB, 512GB, FHD TN

2. rm1729 Asus Laptop M409D-ABV066T 14" Silver ( Ryzen R3-3200, 4GB, 512GB, ATI, W10 )

3. rm1888 HP 14s-dk0108au - Gold (AMD Ryzen 5-3500U/4GB/256GB/14"/Vega 8/No

4. Chuwi Herobook Pro 2020 8GB 256GB SSD Fast Speed Intel N4000 slim light view Notebook laptop (1 year warranty) for RM1,179.00.

which one is gooding and worthy to pick ah.
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Acer Swift 3 SF314-41-R5UP/R3AS +RAM, or SF314-41-R0CS/R2YE if you don't need much storage
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Acer Swift 3 SF314-41-R5UP/R3AS +RAM, or SF314-41-R0CS/R2YE if you don't need much storage
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hi thanks for suggesting. btw i already searching for this model on shopee and lazada for hours but seems all reply no stock and somewhere the price is 2k above. if you know any seller that still got stock for this can share ya 😆
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hi thanks for suggesting. btw i already searching for this model on shopee and lazada for hours but seems all reply no stock and somewhere the price is 2k above. if you know any seller that still got stock for this can share ya 😆
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https://shopee.com.my/Acer-Laptop-Acer-Swif...4196.4730277829
https://shopee.com.my/Acer-Laptop-Acer-Swif...4196.5330279191

note that you still need budget for RAM upgrade
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https://shopee.com.my/Acer-Laptop-Acer-Swif...4196.4730277829
https://shopee.com.my/Acer-Laptop-Acer-Swif...4196.5330279191

note that you still need budget for RAM upgrade
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aiyoo 🥴🥴😅

so hot lah dis model eh. ask about 2-4 seller all same , no stock.
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any news on lenovo yoga slim 7 when will arrive?
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any news on lenovo yoga slim 7 when will arrive?
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I noticed they recently updated the Lenovo website to include the Yoga Slim 7 (15") and Yoga Slim 7 (14") series but no details on specific models or pricing yet. I am also waiting to see what they offer.

They had a discount on the Yoga S740 (14) (Iron Grey) (Part Number: 81RS00AUMJ) last weekend. Probably clearing stock. RRP was RM4749 but all in discount was close to 20%. 2 units all sold out now.
https://www.lenovo.com/my/en/laptops/yoga/y...L/p/88YGS701250
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QUOTE(Germ @ May 18 2020, 01:46 PM)
I noticed they recently updated the Lenovo website to include the Yoga Slim 7 (15") and Yoga Slim 7 (14") series but no details on specific models or pricing yet. I am also waiting to see what they offer.

They had a discount on the Yoga S740 (14) (Iron Grey) (Part Number:  81RS00AUMJ) last weekend. Probably clearing stock. RRP was RM4749 but all in discount was close to 20%. 2 units all sold out now.
https://www.lenovo.com/my/en/laptops/yoga/y...L/p/88YGS701250
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Looking for a laptop

Full HD Display (High sRGB, Contrast Ratio, brightness)
Weight is 1.2 kg or less
Intel 10th Gen Core i5
8 GB Ram
512 GB SSD

Budget RM 3,000

Let me know if the budget is insufficient.
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QUOTE(MikeLeo @ May 18 2020, 09:39 PM)
Full HD Display (High sRGB, Contrast Ratio, brightness)
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preferred brightness for display? 300 nits enough?
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QUOTE(ZM Fong @ May 18 2020, 10:03 PM)
preferred brightness for display? 300 nits enough?
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300 nits is sufficient.
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QUOTE(MikeLeo @ May 19 2020, 08:12 AM)
300 nits is sufficient.
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Fine with ~1.35kg? FYI 8th gen and 10th gen Intel U series (Comet Lake, except 10710U) don't have much significant performance difference
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Hi i looking for a thin/slim laptop, please give me some recommendation
Budget: Below 3.5k after upgrade ram or ssd
Usage: Multi-task Microsoft Office & Auto Cad
Requirement: Weight below 2kg, Screen 15"(no touchscreen), RAM can upgrade to 16GB, SSD can upgrade, AMD or Nvidia GPU (No need high end graphic card as long as can run autocad smoothly), w/ HDMI port

Asus vivobook and zenbook catch my eyes but unfortunately their ram is soldered and has no empty slot for upgrading. Am i right?
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QUOTE(rko1268 @ May 28 2020, 05:36 PM)
RAM can upgrade to 16GB
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Fine with 16GB non-upgradeable?
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Fine with 16GB non-upgradeable?
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Yes 16gb is enough for me
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QUOTE(rko1268 @ May 28 2020, 06:40 PM)
Yes 16gb is enough for me
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Able to hold on purchase or need a laptop now?
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Able to hold on purchase or need a laptop now?
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Can wait
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Need recommendations. Thanks in advance.

Laptop for work. Preferably good battery life 8-9 hrs.
Use: Microsoft, web surfing, YouTube, Netflix
Preferably good display with touch screen, 14 inch.
Doesn’t matter if it’s non upgradable Ram.
Budget under 4K.

Thank u
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QUOTE(NgJYin @ Jun 9 2020, 06:53 AM)
Preferably good display with touch screen, 14 inch.
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touchscreen need pen/stylus support?
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Nope. My current laptop is touchscreen, so used to it.
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Nope. My current laptop is touchscreen, so used to it.
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Lenovo Yoga C740 14 customize
Acer Swift 5 SF514-54T-52AS / 50GD
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Just for sharing. biggrin.gif

For those who planned to buy Lenovo laptop but want some savings, here you can apply these 3 code while checkout. Purchase any ThinkPad can get you 25% OFF (yes no typo), as well ThinkStation desktop. Here you got these code:

CIMB: LENXCIMB
Details: https://deals.cimb.com/my/E-Commerce/Lenovo...3f-0c95e628f3bd

Hong Leong Bank: LENXHLB
Details: https://www.hlb.com.my/en/personal-banking/...rds-lenovo.html

Standard Chartered: LENXSCB
Details: https://www.sc.com/my/promotions/the-good-l...eges/#165744-my

*StandChart offer longer till later date (15 Sept 2020) compared to HLB & CIMB (31 July 2020)

- Discount merchant (apply to all code)
25% off on ALL ThinkPad & ThinkStation (StandChart have only 20% OFF for ThinkPad)
20% OFF on ALL Legion laptops & accessories
15% off on IdeaPad

#You may need to use respective bank card(Credit or Debit or even CIMB prepaid card) for payment. Refer to t&c in those bank website.

Happy Shopping & enjoy great savings.
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ThinkPad X1 Carbon Gen 7th
Part Number: 20QDS0EL00

is good for video editing ma?
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QUOTE(jack2 @ Jun 10 2020, 12:06 PM)
is good for video editing ma?
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Using which programs?
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Using which programs?
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I use powerdirector
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I use powerdirector
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should be fine, but there are cheaper options of course
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should be fine, but there are cheaper options of course
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Which
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Which
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examples: X390, T490, T490s, T495s etc, or the newer ones but haven't arrive
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examples: X390, T490, T490s, T495s etc, or the newer ones but haven't arrive
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Among all, which one is the most powerful and lightest
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QUOTE(Rockman.EXE @ Jun 10 2020, 11:55 AM)
Just for sharing. biggrin.gif

For those who planned to buy Lenovo laptop but want some savings, here you can apply these 3 code while checkout. Purchase any ThinkPad can get you 25% OFF (yes no typo), as well ThinkStation desktop. Here you got these code:

CIMB: LENXCIMB
Details: https://deals.cimb.com/my/E-Commerce/Lenovo...3f-0c95e628f3bd

Hong Leong Bank: LENXHLB
Details: https://www.hlb.com.my/en/personal-banking/...rds-lenovo.html

Standard Chartered: LENXSCB
Details: https://www.sc.com/my/promotions/the-good-l...eges/#165744-my

*StandChart offer longer till later date (15 Sept 2020) compared to HLB & CIMB (31 July 2020)

- Discount merchant (apply to all code)
25% off on ALL ThinkPad & ThinkStation (StandChart have only 20% OFF for ThinkPad)
20% OFF on ALL Legion laptops & accessories
15% off on IdeaPad

#You may need to use respective bank card(Credit or Debit or even CIMB prepaid card) for payment. Refer to t&c in those bank website.

Happy Shopping & enjoy great savings.
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Buy from where?
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QUOTE(jack2 @ Jun 10 2020, 08:14 PM)
Among all, which one is the most powerful and lightest
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Performance in terms of CPU performance? If yes, I would suggest getting Ryzen 4000 U models, since Intel U series is slower especially in multi core load, even with high power limits

Lighter would be T490s/T495s and X390/X395
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QUOTE(ZM Fong @ Jun 10 2020, 08:49 PM)
Performance in terms of CPU performance? If yes, I would suggest getting Ryzen 4000 U models, since Intel U series is slower especially in multi core load, even with high power limits

Lighter would be T490s/T495s and X390/X395
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Ryzen 4000 U models = which model ya
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Ryzen 4000 U models = which model ya
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Buy from where?
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Lenovo Malaysian online store
https://www.lenovo.com/my/en/laptops/c/laptops
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for Thinkpad? those models aren't available yet
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- Discount merchant (apply to all code)
25% off on ALL ThinkPad & ThinkStation (StandChart have only 20% OFF for ThinkPad)
20% OFF on ALL Legion laptops & accessories
15% off on IdeaPad


thinking to buy now as it has 25% discount ya

How about ThinkPad P14s?

M requirements:
1. As lightest as possible to allow me travel and surf net and working.
2. Sometimes I might need to do editing during travel and need to consider about the weight
3. Powerful enough to handle 4K video editing.

This post has been edited by jack2: Jun 11 2020, 09:24 AM
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Lenovo Malaysian online store
https://www.lenovo.com/my/en/laptops/c/laptops
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The price is included discount or will only be discounted after checkout?
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post Jun 11 2020, 11:52 AM

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Need recommendations. Thanks in advance.

Laptop for work.
Use: Opening lots of PDF, Word and Excel file.
14 inch or less for everyday carry.
Processor I7 or ryzen-7
Doesn’t matter if it’s non upgradable Ram with minimum ram 16GB.
Weight less than 2kg.
Budget under 5K.

Currently under my consideration is Thinkpad X395(build quality), commandos helium 4(can upgrade to 32gb ram) and hp envy x360(hoping newer 4000 series will come to malaysia soon).
I dont know which one to choose. Maybe there is something else better in this price range at this moment.

Thank u
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QUOTE(Rockman.EXE @ Jun 10 2020, 11:55 AM)
Just for sharing. biggrin.gif

For those who planned to buy Lenovo laptop but want some savings, here you can apply these 3 code while checkout. Purchase any ThinkPad can get you 25% OFF (yes no typo), as well ThinkStation desktop. Here you got these code:

CIMB: LENXCIMB
Details: https://deals.cimb.com/my/E-Commerce/Lenovo...3f-0c95e628f3bd

Hong Leong Bank: LENXHLB
Details: https://www.hlb.com.my/en/personal-banking/...rds-lenovo.html

Standard Chartered: LENXSCB
Details: https://www.sc.com/my/promotions/the-good-l...eges/#165744-my

*StandChart offer longer till later date (15 Sept 2020) compared to HLB & CIMB (31 July 2020)

- Discount merchant (apply to all code)
25% off on ALL ThinkPad & ThinkStation (StandChart have only 20% OFF for ThinkPad)
20% OFF on ALL Legion laptops & accessories
15% off on IdeaPad

#You may need to use respective bank card(Credit or Debit or even CIMB prepaid card) for payment. Refer to t&c in those bank website.

Happy Shopping & enjoy great savings.
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For the URLs are invalid and not found.
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post Jun 11 2020, 01:16 PM

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Hello,I got this offer by company to buy laptop and claim back RM 2,500. My question is what's the real minimum price for this minimum specs below:


Spesifikasi Teknikal Minimum untuk Komputer Riba
SPESIFIKASI TEKNIKAL MINIMUM UNTUK KOMPUTER RIBA
Processor Type AMD Ryzen 5 Pro 3500U Processor (4MB Cache, upto 3.70GHz)
Memory 8GB, DDR4, 2666MHz
Hard Drive 256GB M.2 PCIe NVMe Solid State Drive
Graphic Memory Integrated graphic memory
Screen 14.0-inch FHD (1920 x 1080) Anti-glare LED Backligh tNon-touch, Camera & Microphone, WLAN/WWAN Capable
Networking -GigabitEthernet-802.11ac 1x1 WiFi and Bluetooth
Ports-USB 2.0 port/USB 3.0 port orlatest
-EthernetRJ-45
-LockSlot
-Power In
-HDMI
-Headphone/Microphone combination jack
Audio-Internal Speakers
Keyboard English International Backlit Keyboard
Battery3 Cell Li-Polymer Internal Battery, 50WhEnergy Star compliance
Operating System Minimum Operating System requirement:Windows 10 Home (64bit) English /Latest Operating System
Note:Must purchase the genuine license.
Backpack Essential Backpack
Warranty & Support RM3250.00 (3 year warranty and onsite support)
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QUOTE(zemega @ Jun 11 2020, 01:16 PM)
Hello,I got this offer by company to buy laptop and claim back RM 2,500. My question is what's the real minimum price for this minimum specs below:
Spesifikasi Teknikal Minimum untuk Komputer Riba
SPESIFIKASI TEKNIKAL MINIMUM UNTUK KOMPUTER RIBA
Processor Type AMD Ryzen 5 Pro 3500U Processor (4MB Cache, upto 3.70GHz)
Memory 8GB, DDR4, 2666MHz
Hard Drive 256GB M.2 PCIe NVMe Solid State Drive
Graphic Memory Integrated graphic memory
Screen 14.0-inch FHD (1920 x 1080) Anti-glare LED Backligh tNon-touch, Camera & Microphone, WLAN/WWAN Capable
Networking -GigabitEthernet-802.11ac 1x1 WiFi and Bluetooth
Ports-USB 2.0 port/USB 3.0 port orlatest
-EthernetRJ-45
-LockSlot
-Power In
-HDMI
-Headphone/Microphone combination jack
Audio-Internal Speakers
Keyboard English International Backlit Keyboard
Battery3 Cell Li-Polymer Internal Battery, 50WhEnergy Star compliance
Operating System Minimum Operating System requirement:Windows 10 Home (64bit) English /Latest Operating System
Note:Must purchase the genuine license.
Backpack Essential Backpack
Warranty & Support RM3250.00 (3 year warranty and onsite support)
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what model is this ? confused.gif
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QUOTE(gigigigi99 @ Jun 11 2020, 01:27 PM)
what model is this ? confused.gif
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I don't know. Someone in the IT department made that minimum spec. I'm trying to figure out whats the actual minimum price for laptops on the market that fulfills those conditions. Its like they expect us to buy RM 3,500++ laptop and only reimburse RM 2,500. The good news is that I get to keep it after 12 months.

There's not even option for Intel CPUs, when it's knows software like Matlab 'screws' or 'gimps' AMD CPUs.
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QUOTE(zemega @ Jun 11 2020, 01:34 PM)
I don't know. Someone in the IT department made that minimum spec. I'm trying to figure out whats the actual minimum price for laptops on the market that fulfills those conditions. Its like they expect us to buy RM 3,500++ laptop and only reimburse RM 2,500. The good news is that I get to keep it after 12 months.

There's not even option for Intel CPUs, when it's knows software like Matlab 'screws' or 'gimps' AMD CPUs.
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this kind of laptop spec, max rm 2.5k already can get
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QUOTE(gigigigi99 @ Jun 11 2020, 01:40 PM)
this kind of laptop spec, max rm 2.5k already can get
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But the minimum spec already includes 3 year warranty and on-site support.
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But the minimum spec already includes 3 year warranty and on-site support.
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onsite support very expensive meh ? icon_question.gif
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QUOTE(jack2 @ Jun 11 2020, 08:20 AM)
How about ThinkPad P14s?

M requirements:
1. As lightest as possible to allow me travel and surf net and working.
2. Sometimes I might need to do editing during travel and need to consider about the weight
3. Powerful enough to handle 4K video editing.
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P14s is fine, TBH if you want something powerful enough, any 4c8t ULV is 'enough', it just that the CPU performance will be different in every model due to differences in cooling and BIOS/firmware
QUOTE(raremetalcaster @ Jun 11 2020, 11:52 AM)
Need recommendations. Thanks in advance.

Laptop for work.
Use: Opening lots of PDF, Word and Excel file.
14 inch or less for everyday carry.
Processor I7 or ryzen-7
Doesn’t matter if it’s non upgradable Ram with minimum ram 16GB.
Weight less than 2kg.
Budget under 5K.

Currently under my consideration is Thinkpad X395(build quality), commandos helium 4(can upgrade to 32gb ram) and hp envy x360(hoping newer 4000 series will come to malaysia soon).
I dont know which one to choose. Maybe there is something else better in this price range at this moment.

Thank u
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Able to wait further? If can't, consider business laptops like Thinkpad T/X series, Latitude 5000/7000 series
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QUOTE(ZM Fong @ Jun 11 2020, 02:36 PM)
P14s is fine, TBH if you want something powerful enough, any 4c8t ULV is 'enough', it just that the CPU performance will be different in every model due to differences in cooling and BIOS/firmware

Able to wait further? If can't, consider business laptops like Thinkpad T/X series, Latitude 5000/7000 series
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Just fine? Got others better option?
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QUOTE(ZM Fong @ Jun 11 2020, 02:36 PM)
P14s is fine, TBH if you want something powerful enough, any 4c8t ULV is 'enough', it just that the CPU performance will be different in every model due to differences in cooling and BIOS/firmware

Able to wait further? If can't, consider business laptops like Thinkpad T/X series, Latitude 5000/7000 series
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Im planning to survey in lowyat this weekend. Can wait for 1 month.
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QUOTE(raremetalcaster @ Jun 11 2020, 03:15 PM)
Im planning to survey in lowyat this weekend. Can wait for 1 month.
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I can wait too
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Just fine? Got others better option?
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Like mentioned previously, business laptops with Ryzen 4000
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Like mentioned previously, business laptops with Ryzen 4000
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under AMD? not available now right?
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under AMD? not available now right?
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not available still
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The price is included discount or will only be discounted after checkout?
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Price listed in the website is before discount
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not available still
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Any info when it will be available?

Thinkpad X395 with 20NLS03100 VS P14s mobile station, which one is better ya?
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Any info when it will be available?

Thinkpad X395 with 20NLS03100 VS P14s mobile station, which one is better ya?
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personally I'll go for P14s if you don't mind the extra weight+size
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personally I'll go for P14s if you don't mind the extra weight+size
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Why?

I read today news and amd Ryzen 4000 will be available in Jun 2020
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Sifu a frind of mine want to buy new 2 in 1 laptop that is light. He cares about portability and prefer a laptop that can support stylus.

Max weight: 2kg
Budget: 5k

Initially he wanted to buy Microsoft Surface Pro 7 but i remembered that u said to avoid any Surface products. So any suggestions? Thanks a lot
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Why?

I read today news and amd Ryzen 4000 will be available in Jun 2020
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With dGPU, with 1 upgradeable RAM slot
QUOTE(Archibeard @ Jun 12 2020, 03:32 PM)
Sifu a frind of mine want to buy new 2 in 1 laptop that is light. He cares about portability and prefer a laptop that can support stylus.

Max weight: 2kg
Budget: 5k

Initially he wanted to buy Microsoft Surface Pro 7 but i remembered that u said to avoid any Surface products. So any suggestions? Thanks a lot
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Preferred display size and max weight?
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Preferred display size and max weight?
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Display <15 inch
Max weight 2kg
Can suggest 4-5 suitable models

This post has been edited by Archibeard: Jun 12 2020, 08:23 PM
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QUOTE(royalknightssx @ Jun 10 2020, 06:29 PM)
Not all, like lenovo legion 5/5i if use 20%discount code + 5%shopback , it's almost the same price as in china. Hp and dell maybe also as they have shopback too.
I'm not gonna spend more money but get a lousy laptop.
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QUOTE(ZM Fong @ Jun 12 2020, 04:05 PM)
With dGPU, with 1 upgradeable RAM slot

Preferred display size and max weight?
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WhichＣＰU is better?

Processor
Intel Core i5-10210U Processor (1.60GHz, up to 4.20GHz with Turbo Boost, 4 Cores, 6MB Cache)

Intel Core i7-10510U Processor (1.80GHz, up to 4.90GHz with Turbo Boost, 4 Cores, 8MB Cache)

+ RM470.00
Intel Core i5-10310U vPro Processor (1.60GHz, up to 4.40GHz with Turbo Boost, 4 Cores, 6MB Cache)

+ RM510.00
Intel Core i7-10610U vPro Processor (1.80GHz, up to 4.90GHz with Turbo Boost, 4 Cores, 8MB Cache)
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QUOTE(jack2 @ Jun 12 2020, 10:33 PM)
WhichＣＰU is better?
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just pick 10210U, the rest not worth it
QUOTE(Archibeard @ Jun 12 2020, 06:22 PM)
Display <15 inch
Max weight 2kg
Can suggest 4-5 suitable models
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RM5k and 2kg will have many options, do you want me to suggest the ones around RM3k-4k or max 5k?

This post has been edited by ZM Fong: Jun 12 2020, 10:47 PM
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RM5k and 2kg will have many options, do you want me to suggest the ones around RM3k-4k or max 5k?
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The max 5k la. High price = quality, yes? Haha
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Sifu, are these two Acer Swift 3's good, when compared to the Ideapad 5 14IIL05 + LENXCIMB
https://www.acer.com/ac/en/MY/content/model/NX.HULSM.001
https://www.acer.com/ac/en/MY/content/model/NX.HSESM.001

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QUOTE(ZM Fong @ Jun 12 2020, 10:37 PM)
just pick 10210U, the rest not worth it

Do you think is worth to pick Thinkpad P14s with current discount 20% or better to wait Ryzen 4000?

or there are better options than P14s with highest performance with lightest unit? notworthy.gif
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The max 5k la. High price = quality, yes? Haha
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Higher quality is generally true for business laptops

Dell Latitude 5300 2 in 1 DFO
Lenovo Thinkpad L13 Yoga
QUOTE(TehPanas247 @ Jun 13 2020, 03:30 AM)
Sifu, are these two Acer Swift 3's good, when compared to the Ideapad 5 14IIL05 + LENXCIMB
https://www.acer.com/ac/en/MY/content/model/NX.HULSM.001
https://www.acer.com/ac/en/MY/content/model/NX.HSESM.001
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Yes, one of the better budget options right now besides Ideapad 5. However I think they are out of stock
QUOTE(jack2 @ Jun 13 2020, 08:30 AM)
Do you think is worth to pick Thinkpad P14s with current discount 20% or better to wait Ryzen 4000?

or there are better options than P14s with highest performance with lightest unit? notworthy.gif
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If not urgent I would definitely wait for Ryzen 4000 Thinkpad

There are light yet high performance options, but not business grade
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QUOTE(ZM Fong @ Jun 13 2020, 12:05 PM)
Higher quality is generally true for business laptops

Dell Latitude 5300 2 in 1 DFO
Lenovo Thinkpad L13 Yoga

Yes, one of the better budget options right now besides Ideapad 5. However I think they are out of stock

If not urgent I would definitely wait for Ryzen 4000 Thinkpad

There are light yet high performance options, but not business grade
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Any idea when the AMD versions of the ideapad 5 or Ideapad slim 5 will come to the Malaysia? Also acer malaysia states that the screen is 300 nits and 72% NTSC, so its a better panel than the potato ones in the western markets right?
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QUOTE(TehPanas247 @ Jun 13 2020, 05:17 PM)
Any idea when the AMD versions of the ideapad 5 or Ideapad slim 5 will come to the Malaysia? Also acer malaysia states that the screen is 300 nits and 72% NTSC, so its a better panel than the potato ones in the western markets right?
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No idea. Flex 5 aldy available though. FYI Ideapad 5 = Ideapad Slim 5

Swift 3 SF314-42 has low sRGB. SF314-57/57G uses high sRGB
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QUOTE(ZM Fong @ Jun 13 2020, 12:05 PM)


If not urgent I would definitely wait for Ryzen 4000 Thinkpad

There are light yet high performance options, but not business grade
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p14s is not business grade too right?
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p14s is not business grade too right?
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business grade (T490 rebrand)
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business grade (T490 rebrand)
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VS P14s, which one has better performance for video editing?
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VS P14s, which one has better performance for video editing?
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You mean T490 vs P14s?
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Ya
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P14s has dGPU so can use dGPU acceleration (since T490 no longer offering MX250 option)
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P14s has dGPU so can use dGPU acceleration (since T490 no longer offering MX250 option)
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P14s is fine, TBH if you want something powerful enough, any 4c8t ULV is 'enough', it just that the CPU performance will be different in every model due to differences in cooling and BIOS/firmware

Able to wait further? If can't, consider business laptops like Thinkpad T/X series, Latitude 5000/7000 series
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QUOTE(ZM Fong @ Jun 13 2020, 12:05 PM)
Higher quality is generally true for business laptops

Dell Latitude 5300 2 in 1 DFO
Lenovo Thinkpad L13 Yoga

Yes, one of the better budget options right now besides Ideapad 5. However I think they are out of stock

If not urgent I would definitely wait for Ryzen 4000 Thinkpad

There are light yet high performance options, but not business grade
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Lenova live chat recommended me these:


https://www.lenovo.com/my/en/laptops/thinkp...urce=insidechat


https://www.lenovo.com/my/en/laptops/thinkp...urce=insidechat


https://www.lenovo.com/my/en/laptops/thinkp...urce=insidechat
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I'm not sure should I get the Intel 10th gen i5 or Ryzen 5?
Which one is better?
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QUOTE(jack2 @ Jun 19 2020, 10:21 AM)
Lenova live chat recommended me these:
https://www.lenovo.com/my/en/laptops/thinkp...urce=insidechat
https://www.lenovo.com/my/en/laptops/thinkp...urce=insidechat
https://www.lenovo.com/my/en/laptops/thinkp...urce=insidechat
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those models are fine (personally would take either P15s or X390)
QUOTE(billychong930518 @ Jun 19 2020, 10:21 AM)
Hi guys,

I'm not sure should I get the Intel 10th gen i5 or Ryzen 5?
Which one is better?
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What's your usage?
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those models are fine (personally would take either P15s or X390)

What's your usage?
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P15s seems to be too big for me. Would prefer P14s. Same performance as P15s?
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P15s seems to be too big for me. Would prefer P14s. Same performance as P15s?
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similar
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Hi guys,

I'm not sure should I get the Intel 10th gen i5 or Ryzen 5?
Which one is better?
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Ryzen 5 4500U & 4600U > Both i5 of Ice lake -U and Comet Lake -U.... 6 cores vs 4 cores.

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Ideapad 5 I cant find in lenovo my, only ideapad flex,... same?

thinkpad amd 4000 still waiting
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Ideapad 5 I cant find in lenovo my, only ideapad flex,... same?

thinkpad amd 4000 still waiting
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Ideapad 5 AMD still not available

Flex 5 has plastic construction, no aluminium. Cooling and power limits are configured similar though
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P15s seems to be too big for me. Would prefer P14s. Same performance as P15s?
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System Specs: ( Edit )

Processor : Intel Core i5-10210U Processor (1.60GHz, up to 4.20GHz with Turbo Boost, 4 Cores, 6MB Cache)
Operating System : Windows 10 Home Single Language 64
Operating System Language : Windows 10 Home Single Language 64 English
Onboard Memory : 8GB DDR4 3200MHz Onboard
Selectable Memory : 8GB DDR4 3200MHz SoDIMM
Total Memory : 16GB (8GB Onboard+8GB SoDIMM) DDR4 3200MHz
Hard Drive : 512GB Solid State Drive, M.2 2280, PCIe Gen3x4, OPAL2.0, TLC
Display : 14.0" FHD(1920x1080) IPS Anti-Glare 400nits Non-Touch Low Power
Color Calibration : No Factory Color Calibration
Color : Black
Graphic Card : NVIDIA Quadro P520 2GB GDDR5 64Bit
Camera : IR and 720p HD Camera with Microphone
Fingerprint Reader : Fingerprint Reader
Pointing Device : Fingerprint
Keyboard : Backlit Keyboard Black English
Wireless : Intel Wi-Fi 6 AX201 2x2ax, Bluetooth Version 5.0 or above
First Graphic Dongle : None
Near Field Communication : No NFC
TPM Setting : Enabled Discrete TPM2.0
Absolute BIOS Selection : BIOS Absolute Enabled
Battery : 3 Cell Li-Polymer Internal Battery, 50Wh
Power Cord : 65W AC Adapter Slim (3pin)-UK (USB Type C)
Display Panel : 14.0" FHD(1920x1080) IPS Anti-glare 400nits Non-Touch Low Power, IR and RGB Camera with Shutter, Mic, No WWAN, WLAN
Package Box : Standard Packaging
Language Pack : Publication-English
Warranty : 1 Year Carry-in

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3Y Premier Support Upgrade from 1Y Depot/CCI
RM159.80
Part #
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ThinkPad Pro Docking Station (UK Standard Plug Type G)
RM1,085.70
Part #
40AH0135UK

Lenovo Essential USB Mouse
RM31.50
Part #
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ThinkPad Professional 15.6-inch Backpack
RM248.85
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Do you think it is good to go?
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looks fine, why docking station tho

this price is after applying coupon?
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looks fine, why docking station tho

this price is after applying coupon?
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Here is the latest

System Specs: ( Edit )

Processor : Intel Core i5-10210U Processor (1.60GHz, up to 4.20GHz with Turbo Boost, 4 Cores, 6MB Cache)
Operating System : Windows 10 Home Single Language 64
Operating System Language : Windows 10 Home Single Language 64 English
Onboard Memory : 8GB DDR4 3200MHz Onboard
Selectable Memory : 8GB DDR4 3200MHz SoDIMM
Total Memory : 16GB (8GB Onboard+8GB SoDIMM) DDR4 3200MHz
Hard Drive : 512GB Solid State Drive, M.2 2280, PCIe Gen3x4, OPAL2.0, TLC
Display : 14.0" FHD(1920x1080) IPS Anti-Glare 400nits Non-Touch Low Power
Color Calibration : No Factory Color Calibration
Color : Black
Graphic Card : NVIDIA Quadro P520 2GB GDDR5 64Bit
Camera : IR and 720p HD Camera with Microphone
Fingerprint Reader : Fingerprint Reader
Pointing Device : Fingerprint
Keyboard : Backlit Keyboard Black English
Wireless : Intel Wi-Fi 6 AX201 2x2ax, Bluetooth Version 5.0 or above
First Graphic Dongle : None
Near Field Communication : No NFC
TPM Setting : Enabled Discrete TPM2.0
Absolute BIOS Selection : BIOS Absolute Enabled
Battery : 3 Cell Li-Polymer Internal Battery, 50Wh
Power Cord : 65W AC Adapter Slim (3pin)-UK (USB Type C)
Display Panel : 14.0" FHD(1920x1080) IPS Anti-glare 400nits Non-Touch Low Power, IR and RGB Camera with Shutter, Mic, No WWAN, WLAN
Package Box : Standard Packaging
Language Pack : Publication-English
Warranty : 1 Year Carry-in

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RM159.80
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ThinkPad Professional 15.6-inch Backpack
RM248.85
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4X40Q26383

Price after discount: Estimated total: RM4,734.08

I don't know if i shall wait for Ryzen 4000 since I am not in hurry but just seeing this discount is good to buy.
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QUOTE(jack2 @ Jun 23 2020, 08:50 AM)
I don't know if i shall wait for Ryzen 4000 since I am not in hurry but just seeing this discount is good to buy.
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The bag is quite expensive IMO

If you can wait why not. The price for P14s is 'normal' only even after discount
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QUOTE(ZM Fong @ Jun 23 2020, 11:39 AM)
The bag is quite expensive IMO

If you can wait why not. The price for P14s is 'normal' only even after discount
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The price shown is not correct. The added price for the bag is RM85.

Ooo... I thought is cheap after the discount.
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QUOTE(jack2 @ Jun 23 2020, 11:47 AM)
The price shown is not correct. The added price for the bag is RM85.

Ooo... I thought is cheap after the discount.
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The lowest end "comet-lake i5" 10210U is used in budget ultra-portable laptops at less than half the price (around 2k)... The CPU performance-wise is Nothing special (& I'm typing this on a 10210u laptop).

Encoding/decoding videos could be better server even with the iGPU on the ice-lake 1065G7....

Then again Intel will be launching the 11th gen Tiger Lake G7....that looks to have even better iGPU than 4000series Renoir...
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QUOTE(BeastX @ Jun 23 2020, 04:51 PM)
The lowest end "comet-lake i5" 10210U is used in budget ultra-portable laptops at less than half the price (around 2k)... The CPU performance-wise is Nothing special (& I'm typing this on a 10210u laptop).

Encoding/decoding videos could be better server even with the iGPU on the ice-lake 1065G7....

Then again Intel will be launching the 11th gen Tiger Lake G7....that looks to have even better iGPU than 4000series Renoir...
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then I should wait lo?
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then I should wait lo?
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Intel's announcement will be next month.... however apple also just announce their own ARM based processor that's purported (demoed) a beast in encoding/decoding three 4k streams at the same time......

Buy what you need at the time (the benefit of tech foresight only gives you 6 mths to a 1 year buffer)... there's always better things down the pipeline... never ending waiting game...

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user posted image sifu what do think of this particular. Model ? For daily work business .. Considering buying from shopee store instead because the online Lenovo fb got a lot complaint
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Model ? For daily work business .. Considering buying from shopee store instead because the online Lenovo fb got a lot complaint
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1yr warranty only
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1yr warranty only
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Can extend the warranty online ?
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Can extend the warranty online ?
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should be able but not sure
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Hi, may I know why Surface Pro not in your list? is it becoz the price too high or the quality not up to your standard? or it in total different class?
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-high price
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only consider it when you 100% need a W10 tablet
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Hi, may I know why Surface Pro not in your list? is it becoz the price too high or the quality not up to your standard? or it in total different class?
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Sifu, which one do you recommend: MSI modern 14 b4mw or asus vivobook s14 m433?
both running on Ryzen 5 4500u
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Sifu, which one do you recommend: MSI modern 14 b4mw or asus vivobook s14 m433?
both running on Ryzen 5 4500u
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im looking for a ultrabook that has bright and sharp display and light for my mum, working as a teacher who needs to carry her laptop always and her eyesight is not good with regular low end TN panel, not enough brightness she said.

thus, yesterday surveying ,saw Lenovo s540 ryzen 7 with QHD IPS display which satisfy her requirement but no HDMI port. Priced at 3199 with free gift 22' monitor and targus backpack,

is there any other ultrabook that can compete in terms of display, weight and price with s540? performance wise i think my mum would not use it for high demanding software or game.

budget is not more than RM3500. I'm concern regarding battery life as the laptop using ryzen 7 3750, perhaps if i can get ryzen 5 4500 which is more efficient.

kindly enlighten me and provide some suggestion. purchase is not urgent, maybe can extend to 1 month hold with current laptop, impending death. thank you.
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is there any other ultrabook that can compete in terms of display, weight and price with s540?
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Around 400 nits display:
Lenovo Yoga C640-13IML 400nits
Huawei Matebook 13 (R5-3500U)
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Removed Flex 5 temporary due to build quality concerns. If you want a portable performance 14 inch laptop (35W under load), you still can consider the AMD model.
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Are there any reason you are not recommending the New Inspiron 14?

https://www.dell.com/en-my/shop/laptops-and...w516014270myw10

It seems like a lot of spec for the price.
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Are there any reason you are not recommending the New Inspiron 14?

https://www.dell.com/en-my/shop/laptops-and...w516014270myw10

It seems like a lot of spec for the price.
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Fried my laptop motherboard playing video games. Any laptop that is good for gaming under rm3k? I mostly play single player games like Dishonored etc, used to setting low graphics already.

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Fried my laptop motherboard playing video games. Any laptop that is good for gaming under rm3k? I mostly play single player games like Dishonored etc, used to setting low graphics already.
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would suggest upping budget to around RM3.5k
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If budget rm3.5k can get which model that's good value for money?

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If budget rm3.5k can get which model that's good value for money?
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Can refer to here: https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4771329
Note: LENXCIMB code only provides 6% discount now, would suggest waiting for slight discounts during weekends or getting retail unit
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QUOTE(ZM Fong @ Jul 21 2020, 11:06 AM)
Can refer to here: https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4771329
Note: LENXCIMB code only provides 6% discount now, would suggest waiting for slight discounts during weekends or getting retail unit
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Thank you sir. I'll look into those options
Still considering whether I should get separate gaming desktop and ultralight notebook for work so that my laptop don't get wrecked by overheating again.

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Thank you sir. I'll look into those options
Still considering whether I should get separate gaming  desktop and ultralight notebook for work so that my laptop don't get wrecked by ocergeating again.
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desktop+laptop combo requires a healthy budget
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any ultrabook recommendations for work (excel, gdrive, edraw,power bi), will be doing lots of flow diagrams, projects, meeting clients etc so prefer something portable.

Currently looking at illegear ionic 14/acer swift 3 ryzen, any other recommendations? budget 3k-4k.
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QUOTE(tsunjeck @ Jul 21 2020, 12:12 PM)
any ultrabook recommendations for work (excel, gdrive, edraw,power bi), will be doing lots of flow diagrams, projects, meeting clients etc so prefer something portable.

Currently looking at illegear ionic 14/acer swift 3 ryzen, any other recommendations? budget 3k-4k.
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Any preferences on weight and display size? Mind low sRGB display and non-upgradeable RAM?
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QUOTE(ZM Fong @ Jul 21 2020, 12:39 PM)
Any preferences on weight and display size? Mind low sRGB display and non-upgradeable RAM?
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as light as possible. screen size 14" max. prefer to have 16gb ram or else at least 8gb non upgradable ram. low sRGB is okay but prefer higher sRGB
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QUOTE(tsunjeck @ Jul 21 2020, 03:08 PM)
as light as possible. screen size 14" max. prefer to have 16gb ram or else at least 8gb non upgradable ram. low sRGB is okay but prefer higher sRGB
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For your usage I think better get 16GB RAM

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