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BFGWong
post Jun 17 2019, 07:06 PM

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Any recommendation for one 13" that comes with discrete graphics but wont break the bank?
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post Jun 18 2019, 02:13 PM

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Around 3500. Was hoping the AMD Ryzen APU concept can deliver better. But the 2019 R 3300 is a disappointment - same performance as R2500 but graphics downgraded from Vega 8 to Vega 6.

I guess its back to Intel + nVidia. Just wanted an ultraportable that I can play some games on (nothing too fancy, like Civ) while plugged in.
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post Jun 24 2019, 02:26 PM

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QUOTE(ZM Fong @ Jun 18 2019, 02:20 PM)
3300U is based on 2300U which is a 4c4t chip, 3500U and 2500U are 4c8t chips

Might want to increase budget to 4k unless you're fine with 14 inch

And like I mentioned, 13 inch laptops with dGPU will usually throttle
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I'd still prefer 13" - makes a lot of differences carrying it daily with other stuff in the bag. If bumping it to 4k, what is the best one with a decent GPU?
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post Jul 5 2019, 07:08 PM

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QUOTE(ZM Fong @ Jun 24 2019, 06:15 PM)
Asus Zenbook UX333F-NA4050T / 051T / 162T - has low throttling point

There are reasons why there isn't a single Surface in this list...
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Thanks.. I found it around 4k plus at Lowyat, proposal rejected by MoF. After nego brought the new Ryzen x360 for 3350 after checking the whole place.

3350 HP Envy x360 13-AG0011AU - R5-3500U, 8GB, 256GB
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post Jul 7 2019, 09:49 PM

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QUOTE(ZM Fong @ Jul 5 2019, 07:13 PM)
Can you check whether it has dual channel RAM? Also if possible, let me know the power limits via AMD uProf - STAPM limit, slow limit, fast limit
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CPUz: Dual Channel RAM

uProf:
STAPM limit - 15.0
Slow limit - 30.0
Fast limi - 25.0
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post Jul 8 2019, 12:21 PM

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QUOTE(ZM Fong @ Jul 7 2019, 10:48 PM)
Thanks for the info
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Most welcomed. But since I've looked at it, can help with some explanation on what those are?

STAPM, Fast, Slow limits are different TDP at which the CPU starts throttling right?

I am thinking, in laptop mode vs tablet mode, will x360 (or other type of convertible like Yoga) have a different power limit due to constrained cooling?

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post Jul 8 2019, 03:09 PM

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QUOTE(ZM Fong @ Jul 8 2019, 12:30 PM)
Fast limit - power limit for the first few seconds (basically useless)
Slow limit - power limit for a long duration until STAPM power reaches slow limit value
STAPM limit - power limit forever - 15w is typical especially for convertible

From what I know, you can adjust performance setting in HP Command Center so maybe you can try to play around that. If you want best performance possible, can try tuning using Ryzenadj. Also, the power limits seem to be higher than the previous Envy x360 13
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Thanks! When I have some time I'll tinker around with the power settings. Now just trying to install things I need to use on it and getting the hang of it.

 

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