Are you Malaysian?

Do you respect written agreement?

Wait, are you BN macai cos Baru Malaysia and PH respect rule of law

Malaysia will always fight cause they said that the water is sold is too cheap for Singapore, and Singapore will always fight back cause it's within the agreement and they sell back the treated water to Malaysia in a cheaper price.

I believe if Malaysia insist to renegotiate, Singapore would love it, cause they can also increase the price of treated water, then I guess that Malaysia will threaten to stop water supply to Singapore.

As for now, Singapore might still need the water from Malaysia, and if you are in Singapore you will know, Singapore aim to be self water reliance by the date of the contract ends. This is because Lee Kuan Yew has projected Malaysia will threaten Singapore with water agreement again sooner or later.

Personally i think it's a political gimmick by Tun M, he's been there in the beginning and now suddenly raise up this issue, even other ministers just diam diam. It's not so easy to recontract the things, and he knows it. Just making some headlines to stir up some public perceptions. Anyway I would love to see how this issue proceeds, cause it's a new govt after all, dealing with Singapore govt. Looking at this video, you can see that how Singapore govt works, with facts and figures... you can say they are hiding something, but you can't deny that what they said is true.

=)

thanks. as budak2 wechat will ask, "tak faham la, lukis boleh?"

great infographic btw...

btw the company getting rich in all of this is bukit berlari.

as insinuated many2 times before in this tered.

I can imagine when they first signed it, malaysia thought they are getting themselves a deal to be selling something they have abundant and freely falling from the sky... and would have gone to waste (without monetizing) otherwise.

Blame it on short-sightedness.

Can you imagine this issue goes to the courts? Will the judge take into account SG's subsidized water sale to Johor?

Think answer is obviously YES.

What I find most disgusting is that the Malaysian public had been deliberately misled and misinformed by both Dr M and the media.

The link below shows the full facts which Malaysia (including our new PH govt) did not dispute since the 1990s.

https://www1.mfa.gov.sg/SINGAPORES-FOREIGN-...ater-Agreements

yes, in fact johor and ranhill profit from all this water business.

as many others have even drawn it in nice infographic to you.

Malaysians pay more to Malaysian company or govt.? why this is normal, where have you been?

if you still cannot or would not understand this then mmg you bodo sombong

I suppork Singapore

hello genius, if we ask Singapore to pay market rate for our raw water now, they also have right to ask Johor to pay market rate for their treated water.

as this guy already mentioned WAY WAY EARLIER in this tered:

any more smart suggestions?

siapa la pandai sgt sign contract panjang panjang..when does it expire? when time to review then better start drafting a more fair agreement...

Frk... Can i unfap to vivian Hsu????

?oh nnooooooo

Tbh, it isn't hard to understand by buying 50 cent selling 3.20 without doing anything.
Profiting on tongkat? End of the contract , who profiting?

Why 2061? Why not forever? Because they are waiting for technology breakthrough of getting water from the sea at cheaper rate.

Even as it is now, the water rate in Johor is high. Penang and Selangor also isn't as high as Johor. Can't imagine what the new rate will be after we absorbing the other plant in 2061.
Profit now, don't care later. No wonder it's easy to take advantage. Just like loan, get money now, pay later.

I prefer to see it long term.

Hello more genius, we can get the treated water ourselves at cheaper rate than what Ranhill is currently charging. Just like the other forumer here point out, got tongkat, why want work for it mentality is stopping us from doing that.

This post has been edited by wanted111who: Mar 4 2019, 11:10 AM

To be honest, I do not think Malaysia will bring this to court, if they know what they are doing.

Same goes to the high speed rail, they keep 'tekan' Singapore saying they will cancel and etc. but in the end, they choose to postponed and paid Singapore compensation.

Singapore is a kiasu country, they will make sure that they will have every ammo they have if they want to fight. Not easy to cheat them.

Politic can be disgusting and ugly... to be honest this PH govt is not doing very well at the time being... especially those important issues. and keep blaming the previous govt and 1MDB.

anyway, there's a time limit for them 5 years, we will see.

kepala hotak dia free, piping and dam no need maintain ka, salary to maintain those infra no need to pay ka?
selling at 3cent per 1000gallon is like selling at loss.

This post has been edited by zerorating: Mar 4 2019, 11:15 AM

Open out the agreement details then only we can read and debate. Now it's only heresay.

1) Why wasn't Malaysia insist of review the new rate in 1987?
2) Does the agreement has a clause that both countries will have reserved the right to review the price in the future when it deem to be unfair to either one of them?

And a lot of question marks. But agreement/contract is signed and must honored regardless. Like how Malaysia cancelled some project with China and need to compensate for the cancellation of the contract. That will apply the water deal as well.

You are damn right.

Like other MY public, I din know it is SG that pay for all these costs.

On top of this, SG is selling treated water at a heavily subsidized price of 50 sen to Johor.

Totally disgusted that Dr M and the media did not tell us this fact

You can read the facts from the link below:

https://www1.mfa.gov.sg/SINGAPORES-FOREIGN-...ater-Agreements

hello genius, what part of this infographic you don't understand?



johor are getting treated water at ZERO (0) cost, what is more cheaper than ZERO?

as mentioned many2 times in this tered also, why is ranhill charging us higher?

how much is ranhill paying johor govt.?

who else is ranhill paying from the fat 100% profit they make each time they sell water to consumers?

TL; DR who is really getting richer from selling free stuff?

open your eyes and see who has been conning who....

I do hope malaysia brings this to icj or whatever. Just to proof Tun wrong. Im appreciative of truths but not outright lies..that is deceiving the rakyat and morally wrong.

For info, Sg will not lose as it is complying with the international agreement. Malaysia, on the other hand, wants a change to a signed agreement.

There is no way

1. Singapore pays for all of that too, until end of 2061.

so, it is free. to johor and ranhill.

kenapa, tak percaya ke?

SG is already self reliant as far as treated water is concerned. Except of course, its more expensive to treated using RO technologies.

AFAIK they have already in place treatement capacities which are more than demand in place.
Howevre, due to water security, in early 2000, they have already planned to have capacities of 2 TIMES the demand.