Planning for a trip to Hokkaido for snow.
Need comments from sifus here.
1) Timing - Jan or Feb?
2) Duration - optimal to explore enough places and not in rush
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Apr 23 2019, 04:29 PM
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Planning for a trip to Hokkaido for snow.
Need comments from sifus here. 1) Timing - Jan or Feb? 2) Duration - optimal to explore enough places and not in rush |
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Apr 23 2019, 05:08 PM
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QUOTE(Randomization @ Apr 23 2019, 04:29 PM) Planning for a trip to Hokkaido for snow. winter time has shorter daylight and most shop would close early. so how would you first define "optimal to explore enough places"? 1 attraction in a day? 2 places in a day?Need comments from sifus here. 1) Timing - Jan or Feb? 2) Duration - optimal to explore enough places and not in rush |
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Apr 23 2019, 05:42 PM
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QUOTE(Chaud @ Apr 23 2019, 05:08 PM) winter time has shorter daylight and most shop would close early. so how would you first define "optimal to explore enough places"? 1 attraction in a day? 2 places in a day? Depending on the distance I guess. No specifically 1 or 2 in a day.Just don't want to feel rush and check time whole trip. I don't have much idea about Hokkaido, so feel free to throw me suggestions. |
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Apr 23 2019, 06:47 PM
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QUOTE(Randomization @ Apr 23 2019, 05:42 PM) Depending on the distance I guess. No specifically 1 or 2 in a day. try thisJust don't want to feel rush and check time whole trip. I don't have much idea about Hokkaido, so feel free to throw me suggestions. http://bfy.tw/NLL9 |
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Apr 24 2019, 08:33 AM
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QUOTE(Chaud @ Apr 23 2019, 06:47 PM) Thanks. Seems like you can't ask for suggestions here. |
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Apr 24 2019, 08:46 AM
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QUOTE(Randomization @ Apr 24 2019, 08:33 AM) you canproblem is your question is too general. what kind of suggestion do you want? food? ryokan? onsen? sightseeing? hotel? train pass? ski resort? come out with a base first, then we can give suggestion |
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Apr 24 2019, 08:53 AM
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QUOTE(Randomization @ Apr 24 2019, 08:33 AM) I myself planning a trip to Hokkaido as well ... my definition of DIY planning (as opposed to joining a tour) is searching/googling, reading blogs, going thru lists of Hokkaido popular itineraries, viewing YouTube videos, etc. .... then after a rough possible plan, might only write them out here if I need any comments or suggestions from sifus (if there's any clarification needed or if I need to confirm something from fellow Malaysian travellers who been there before).QUOTE(Chaud @ Apr 24 2019, 08:46 AM) you can He's looking for snow experience in Jan or Feb.problem is your question is too general. what kind of suggestion do you want? food? ryokan? onsen? sightseeing? hotel? train pass? ski resort? come out with a base first, then we can give suggestion So, most probably ski resorts and their powder snows. Unless not really about snow activities (skiing, snowboarding, etc.) in Rusutsu, Niseko, Furano, or the nearer Sapporo Teine Ski Resort; just wanna experience snowing / falling snows? Ya, kinda too general. But I guess, can suggest easy and relaxing itinerary that focused on snow experience during winter time in Hokkaido, if any here been through a nice plan before. Since they say, Hokkaido is good to visit for all four seasons; then maybe when Randomization is familiar with Hokkaido already, then next time can plan a more packed itinerary. |
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Apr 24 2019, 10:25 AM
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QUOTE(Chaud @ Apr 24 2019, 08:46 AM) you can I dont know how my question can be very general.problem is your question is too general. what kind of suggestion do you want? food? ryokan? onsen? sightseeing? hotel? train pass? ski resort? come out with a base first, then we can give suggestion 1 - Jan or Feb (which month better) 2 - how long duration to explore enough places (not rush, meaning not too packed) The reason I did not limit to what my preference is to get idea from those who went before to share their experience here. I'm not even asking for a detailed itinerary. If that is too much, then I'll try elsewhere. Thanks anyway. |
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Apr 24 2019, 10:41 AM
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QUOTE(Randomization @ Apr 24 2019, 10:25 AM) I dont know how my question can be very general. 1- do check when is Sapporo Snow Festival. if u are interested.1 - Jan or Feb (which month better) 2 - how long duration to explore enough places (not rush, meaning not too packed) The reason I did not limit to what my preference is to get idea from those who went before to share their experience here. I'm not even asking for a detailed itinerary. If that is too much, then I'll try elsewhere. Thanks anyway. 2- no idea how much u wan to cover. reason its hard to help u up coz u dun specify anything at all. are u goin to rent a car there? public transport? tour guided bus? renting car, u can cover alot of place, if u r ok with driving in winter snow. public transport has it own challenge. few places hard to get there/require strict schedule. note: i never been to Hokkaido, but did plan for this summer, draft out my itinerary but set aside since something came out n unable to proceed. |
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Apr 24 2019, 10:59 AM
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QUOTE(Randomization @ Apr 24 2019, 09:25 AM) I dont know how my question can be very general. Jan are coldest month. can reach -10 to -15, most blizzard storm. Alot train line will shutdown due to blizzard storm. Even self driving also very challenging. 1 - Jan or Feb (which month better) 2 - how long duration to explore enough places (not rush, meaning not too packed) The reason I did not limit to what my preference is to get idea from those who went before to share their experience here. I'm not even asking for a detailed itinerary. If that is too much, then I'll try elsewhere. Thanks anyway. Accident once, almost bye bye to this world. Hokkaido very big, If you want cover all cities, it will takes you one month. Very General one such as Sapporo + Otaru + (Lake Toya + Noboribetsu) or (Asahikawa + Biei + Furano) will be 1 week. Sapporo + Otaru + Lake Toya + Noboribetsu + Asahikawa + Biei + Furano + Hakodate will be 2 week Sapporo + Otaru + Lake Toya + Noboribetsu + Asahikawa + Biei + Furano + Hakodate + Wakkanai + Obihiro + Kushiro + Abashiri will be 1 month |
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Apr 24 2019, 11:03 AM
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QUOTE(Fyonne @ Apr 24 2019, 10:41 AM) 1- do check when is Sapporo Snow Festival. if u are interested. Of course, I'm not trying to be rude as if I'm owed for an answer.2- no idea how much u wan to cover. reason its hard to help u up coz u dun specify anything at all. are u goin to rent a car there? public transport? tour guided bus? renting car, u can cover alot of place, if u r ok with driving in winter snow. public transport has it own challenge. few places hard to get there/require strict schedule. note: i never been to Hokkaido, but did plan for this summer, draft out my itinerary but set aside since something came out n unable to proceed. I hardly come to this part of the forum and I'm not expecting /k type of answer (asking me to google). The reason my question being so general is that I want to roughly gauge how long I'm going to be there before planning my itinerary. Want to settle my flight tix first so that I can firm on my travel date (tight work schedule). I've seen 7-8 days itinerary and 11-12 days itinerary, hence I wonder which is better (not overkill or too packed). If my timing can go for festivals, sure. If not, I can't really do much about it. QUOTE(RegentCid @ Apr 24 2019, 10:59 AM) Jan are coldest month. can reach -10 to -15, most blizzard storm. Alot train line will shutdown due to blizzard storm. Even self driving also very challenging. I see, then Feb it is. Accident once, almost bye bye to this world. Hokkaido very big, If you want cover all cities, it will takes you one month. Very General one such as Sapporo + Otaru + (Lake Toya + Noboribetsu) or (Asahikawa + Biei + Furano) will be 1 week. Sapporo + Otaru + Lake Toya + Noboribetsu + Asahikawa + Biei + Furano + Hakodate will be 2 week Sapporo + Otaru + Lake Toya + Noboribetsu + Asahikawa + Biei + Furano + Hakodate + Wakkanai + Obihiro + Kushiro + Abashiri will be 1 month I'm not looking to explore all places, just good enough for first time going there (not coming back with questions why no go here/there). Which will you recommend? |
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Apr 24 2019, 11:25 AM
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QUOTE(Randomization @ Apr 24 2019, 10:05 AM) I see, then Feb it is. 7 Days option will be the best. I'm not looking to explore all places, just good enough for first time going there (not coming back with questions why no go here/there). Which will you recommend? Sapporo + Otaru + Lake Toya + Noboribetsu (Onsen) + Asahikawa (If you like wild food If you shy for naked infornt of people, you can take out Noboribetsu and slot in Hakodate. Just get JR Hokkaido Rail Pass. This post has been edited by RegentCid: Apr 24 2019, 11:26 AM |
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Apr 24 2019, 01:30 PM
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QUOTE(Randomization @ Apr 24 2019, 11:05 AM) I see, then Feb it is. See if you can time your trip for sapporo snow festival. |
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Apr 24 2019, 05:42 PM
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QUOTE(Jet23sky @ Apr 16 2019, 10:12 AM) Guys, does anyone know whether I can use the 5 days Tateyama Kurobe Option ticket to get transport from Ogizawa station to Shina-Omachi station? I watch youtube and it seems like there is bus directly to that station. Hi bro... Once you have done your trip through the Tateyama Kurobe Route, could you update if you really need to wear proper winter wear for this day trip. End of April is almost summer and I don't think anybody would want to bring along their winter wear unless absolutely necessary.For the Tateyama station to Bijodaira station ride, from the youtuber video it seems like I need to reserve the timeslot to get into it and this is the only ride that required to book the seat, the rest of the 5 types of rides are basically queuing. Did anyone experience this? |
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QUOTE(TOMEI-R @ Apr 24 2019, 05:42 PM) Hi bro... Once you have done your trip through the Tateyama Kurobe Route, could you update if you really need to wear proper winter wear for this day trip. End of April is almost summer and I don't think anybody would want to bring along their winter wear unless absolutely necessary. i wore heat tech and a coat when i was there...no feel |
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Apr 24 2019, 06:02 PM
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Anyone can share to me what are the famous mobile payment apps used in Osaka?
Alipay? Wechat pay? Line pay? Apple pay? I understand Japan always practice CASH but I prefer cashless where I do not need to carry that much of CASH with me coming from security concern. Thanks |
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Apr 25 2019, 04:35 PM
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I'd like to know also .... troublesome a bit to handle the 1,5,10,50,100,500yen coins.
The usual IC cards? Suica? Pasmo? (problem with these, lost the card, sayonara oo sayonara oo) MasterCard mobile wallet, NETELLER, ? ... (advantage of mobile-tied e-wallet, tied to accounts; lost phone, still got security protections) https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2018/12/0...y/#.XMFzsqRx3Dc » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Hopefully, LinePay can integrate with our WeChat Wallet in RM ... else, top up in RMB then use in Japan? Not sure worth it or not ... exchange rate vs convenience. I still don't know how to enable AliPay without a China bankcard/phone number ... followed the googled instructions, still can't ... anybody managed to do that? https://www.thepaypers.com/expert-opinion/p...in-japan/772040 » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « This post has been edited by r2t2: Apr 26 2019, 10:56 AM |
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Apr 25 2019, 05:18 PM
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QUOTE(r2t2 @ Apr 25 2019, 04:35 PM) I'd like to know also .... troublesome a bit to handle the 1,5,10,50,100,500yen coins. Its impossible for you to use wechat pay in Japan now. They only accepts china region wallet and even if you have china region wallet, you are required to do China IC Verfication in order to use it in overseas. Just use cash/cards. Want cashless, put a lot of money into IC Cards, IC cards nowadays is widely accepted by the stores.The usual IC cards? Suica? Pasmo? (problem with these, lost the card, sayonara oo sayonara oo) MasterCard mobile wallet, NETELLER, ? ... (advantage of mobile-tied e-wallet, tied to accounts; lost phone, still got security protections) https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2018/12/0...y/#.XMFzsqRx3Dc "Why is Japan sluggish in adopting cashless? Trust in cash, the sense of safety in carrying it, fewer stores that accept credit cards and e-money are factors pointed out in the Cashless Vision report. The report, released in April, noted cash has been reliable in Japan, where counterfeit bills are rare. The crime rate is low, so people feel safe carrying cash, and ATMs are readily available. Also, although many convenience stores and large retailers allow various payment tools, many small enterprises only accept cash." "Line Corp., a messaging app giant, is eagerly pushing its Line Pay payment service, which accepts payments by scanning QR codes, plastic cards or smartphones equipped with FeliCa chips....Last week it announced plans to team up with Tencent in this field...Chinese travelers to Japan can use WeChat Pay at stores that accept Line Pay starting early next year. . . PayPay Corp., which is a mobile payment firm jointly run by SoftBank Group Corp. and Yahoo Japan, is partnering with Ant Financial to allow Alipay users to make payments with their app at PayPay-ready stores. Alibaba is part of the SoftBank group. ... SoftBank is serious about becoming the leading cashless platform in Japan, considering the huge PayPay investment, Toshio Taki, who heads the fintech research laboratory at Tokyo-based Money Forward Inc., said. “SoftBank has seen how Alibaba and Alipay have grown so big in China … so I think it is seeing value in a top payment player that can acquire (a huge amount of) purchase data in a very long term,” said Taki." Hopefully, LinePay can integrate with our WeChat Wallet in RM ... else, top up in RMB then use in Japan? Not sure worth it or not ... exchange rate vs convenience. I still don't know how to enable AliPay without a China bankcard/phone number ... followed the googled instructions, still can't ... anybody managed to do that? https://www.thepaypers.com/expert-opinion/p...in-japan/772040 "According to HSBC, hard cash is still the order of the day in the Land of the Rising Sun. While innovative in almost all areas of technology, Japanese have been reluctant to give up the use of liquid currency. . . Today, the preferred online payment method in Japan is still credit or debit card, followed by post-purchase payment, carrier billing (charging payments to a phone bill), e-wallets and prepaid cards (e.g., Line Pay, Suica, Nanaco, Edy). The mobile wallet – “contactless” and prepaid – the least favourite? Prepaid payment methods and e-wallets represent 4.2 % of the total payments. This figure is surprising considering that Japan was a precursor when it comes to prepaid cards. But why the low figure? An ageing population could be one explanation, experts pointing to the effect of age distribution. While 45-and older consumers resist changing their payment habits, the young Japanese are keen on technology." |
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