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fun_feng
post Jan 11 2019, 11:28 AM

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RIP TS insulted a church..

Kristian gonna viral, mob and rally u to death
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post Jan 11 2019, 11:31 AM

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Wow spotted few Collective KL members here
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post Jan 11 2019, 11:32 AM

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QUOTE(fun_feng @ Jan 11 2019, 11:28 AM)
RIP TS insulted a church..

Kristian gonna viral, mob and rally u to death
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I don't think christian will rally on this, only affiliate of City harvest church will do. Progressive Christian will never accept Pastor Kong Hee.

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post Jan 11 2019, 11:37 AM

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QUOTE(whitefong @ Jan 11 2019, 11:28 AM)
Here is two comparisons

You watch Les~miserable? A guy steals a bread for a hungry kid, yes for this case I don't judge him. But it is still a wrong doing.
For Pastor Kong Hee, he deserves the punishment, we should condemn him, because he steal the church money, spends for his personal luxury lifestyle, those are horrible things. And Collective Kl should fully aware of this and must remove such scammer name
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Then I nominate you to go to the church and let them know they are wrong to settle this once and for all, I believe you are a man/woman of upright justice and action.

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post Jan 11 2019, 12:06 PM

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QUOTE(Starbucki @ Jan 11 2019, 10:25 AM)
You twisted the whole thing to suit your own views.
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I'm free to form my own opinion based on feedback from Christians from many churches.

You are free to form your own as well.
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post Jan 11 2019, 12:10 PM

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QUOTE(hellokitten @ Jan 11 2019, 12:06 PM)
I'm free to form my own opinion based on feedback from Christians from many churches.

You are free to form your own as well.
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Then you may need to listen to God more than your friends.

Humans are fallible. Churches are fallible. God's Word is infallible.

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post Jan 11 2019, 12:10 PM

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QUOTE(whitefong @ Jan 11 2019, 10:31 AM)
Church is like temple or mosque, definetely you can donate accordingly
However, the pastor should not spend church money' for personal luxury lifestyle, this is why the Singapore government sends them to jail
As a Malaysian we should fully aware of the church Kong Hee involved, and should not donate single cent to any church Kong Hee and another 6 leader involved.
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that's misappropriation of funds.
not scam. laugh.gif

even then donated funds spending are based on the association. so.... hmm.gif

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post Jan 11 2019, 12:13 PM

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QUOTE(fuzzy @ Jan 11 2019, 11:15 AM)
she's a feature writer for RPK too

a lot of what she writes is quite sickening really
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post Jan 11 2019, 12:18 PM

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CHC. That church huh. Heheheh
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post Jan 11 2019, 12:19 PM

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QUOTE(agent sawyer @ Jan 11 2019, 12:13 PM)
she's a feature writer for RPK too

a lot of what she writes is quite sickening really
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I stopped reading when she said that the congregation's tongues darted in and out like monitor lizards, and with no pics of that but rather pics of a 2007 concert.
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post Jan 11 2019, 12:34 PM

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Just read that Serina Wee its release. Quite a big news in SG.
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post Jan 11 2019, 01:10 PM

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church is a lucrative business model...
nuvi
post Jan 11 2019, 01:16 PM

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QUOTE(whitefong @ Jan 11 2019, 12:48 AM)
It is not an accuse, it is all over in the media dude. What do you mean a great hate? She is alarmed the people
Spreading such a news is part of social responsibility, how can you twist the story around?
Are you accusing the Singapore government did a wrong thing as well?
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All over the media is at SG church. They found wrongdoing there.

Malaysia haven't found any wrongdoing so you can't simply equate it here. You can only question is it here is same as there.

Being sued will be a very expensive lesson to learn about responsibility.
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post Jan 11 2019, 01:18 PM

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QUOTE(whitefong @ Jan 11 2019, 10:31 AM)
Church is like temple or mosque, definetely you can donate accordingly
However, the pastor should not spend church money' for personal luxury lifestyle, this is why the Singapore government sends them to jail
As a Malaysian we should fully aware of the church Kong Hee involved, and should not donate single cent to any church Kong Hee and another 6 leader involved.
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ok

the church i go to , our pastor has his own business, so he's not paid by church

but there are other laymen who are employed by church and they are paid salary

so u mean to tell me that pastor cannot spend church money or what.
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post Jan 11 2019, 01:23 PM

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QUOTE(spacelion @ Jan 11 2019, 01:18 PM)
ok

the church i go to , our pastor has his own business, so he's not paid by church

but there are other laymen who are employed by church and they are paid salary

so u mean to tell me that pastor cannot spend church money or what.
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You know what is misappropriation of fund and criminal breach of trust?


Say a donation fund earmarked for missionary mission in Africa and the dear pastor dip his finger into cookie jar and use it to pay for his daughter bachelor programs at yales


Pastor using church fund for own benefit is both wrong in the eye of law and God, well if he actually believe in hell

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post Jan 11 2019, 01:25 PM

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post Jan 11 2019, 01:26 PM

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QUOTE(nuvi @ Jan 11 2019, 01:16 PM)
All over the media is at SG church. They found wrongdoing there.

Malaysia haven't found any wrongdoing so you can't simply equate it here. You can only question is it here is same as there.

Being sued will be a very expensive lesson to learn about responsibility.
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This sound like threaten, is this how you all treat the people who ask a question? that why I said for the sake of good, why not just remove the name of "Kong Hee"? less controversial. The church can have less headaches too
We only point out "Kong Hee" scammer name should not use on the website, furthermore, I said a word "could be" only. But the way you threaten us sound real to me. OMG. This is so scary

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post Jan 11 2019, 01:29 PM

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QUOTE(whitefong @ Jan 11 2019, 01:26 PM)
This sound like threaten, is this how you all treat the people who ask a question? that why I said for the sake of good, why not just remove the name of "Kong Hee"? less controversial. The church can have less headaches too
We only point out "Kong Hee" scammer name should not use on the website, furthermore, I said a word "could be" only. But the way you threaten us sound real to me. OMG
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Wow your stupidity is in another level. I don't even believe in god, I just telling you how the world works.

Can Germany take out Hitler name from their records? History will remain the same, trying to conceal it will look more worse.
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post Jan 11 2019, 01:31 PM

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QUOTE(whitefong @ Jan 11 2019, 01:26 PM)
This sound like threaten, is this how you all treat the people who ask a question? that why I said for the sake of good, why not just remove the name of "Kong Hee"? less controversial. The church can have less headaches too
We only point out "Kong Hee" scammer name should not use on the website, furthermore, I said a word "could be" only. But the way you threaten us sound real to me. OMG
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Another hallmark of deviant chruch is that they threat fellow chirch member and church body which don't agree with their belief, with lawsuit


For example local church group file furious lawsuit against many church body


Well
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post Jan 11 2019, 01:34 PM

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Catholic Church > all

All other church not under Pope is false

The rest esp CHC are only run by self centered egoistic people

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