Not so sure, but in the United state they did "seperate the church from the state". I guess the move is to prevent scammer, to scam money in the name of God

No one said all church is Con, we are talking about Kong Hee Scandal and his wife, why are you all protecting the scammer? part of them?
In fact I ask them to switch others church

A church in Subang Jaya. Next to UCSI school.

Lets just put it this way. A church is supposed to be a place of worship nothing more. They are not supposed to run a church like a freaking business.

If u step inside collective kl, theres a futsal court which is open to public, theres a cafe, and they even rent out their lobby space for events.

Yes donations to church are acceptable. But the fact is they run this church like a business establishment. Thats why ppl are not so comfortable with it.

That why they lose the election, That simple? how he received the money, who know? may be he just using his relative account or such
I start to curious, you probably don't understand my question

I said Collective KL churches must not put Kong Hee name and his wife Sun on the website, should not show gratitude to both scammer. This is like praising the bad guy like Hitler, who kills 6 million

I hope the follower here stop twist the story around. If you are sincere and faithful christian, you should inform the church remove the scammer name, not here to twist my words; I guess this is the main reason why the huge decline of Christianity happened in the US, UK or Europe, because the follower is not rational we talk A, they answer B

faith is faith, bad people is bad people. The follower must not blindly protect the scammer

Church is like temple or mosque, definetely you can donate accordingly
However, the pastor should not spend church money' for personal luxury lifestyle, this is why the Singapore government sends them to jail
As a Malaysian we should fully aware of the church Kong Hee involved, and should not donate single cent to any church Kong Hee and another 6 leader involved.

You know what is misappropriation of fund and criminal breach of trust?
Say a donation fund earmarked for missionary mission in Africa and the dear pastor dip his finger into cookie jar and use it to pay for his daughter bachelor programs at yales
Pastor using church fund for own benefit is both wrong in the eye of law and God, well if he actually believe in hell

Catholic Church > all

All other church not under Pope is false

The rest esp CHC are only run by self centered egoistic people

That should be the golden standard then if you say must listen more to word of God

There is a different for pasti to take say 5k a month to a pastor who gross more that one million per annum from church fund
The line is clear that extravagant pastor salary is not.part of bible teaching

OMG, no such things stealing church money is wrong, stealing is wrong in every countries. How can people still encourage such wrong doing? No wonder Malaysia has so many money games in Malaysia
How we gonna educate our kid in this way? should we tell them stealing in Singapore in wrong, stealing in Malaysia is legal? so behave nicely in Singapore, come back you can steal as much as you want?

I never expect there is so many twisted comment

A Hillsong spokesman would not reveal how much Mr Houston was paid, citing a church policy to “not divulge personal details including salaries of its staff”.

If you want to be abundant with material wealth don't become a pastor

I don't understand why you need to keep protect the church, and repeatedly ask something I have already answered. I start to suspect you are one of them.
If the church seriously thinks stealing is wrong, remove the Pastor "Kong Hee"name that all. You don't need admire a hypocrite seriously
I have already explained the same things, you can record Hitler in history book, but you don't need praise the Hitler

Forgiveness does not apply to Kong Hee, He never admits his wrong, His wife even worst still blame God, she write this "Entertainment world were suspicious of me, many times i asked God how more I had to do it" God never ask her to do so, she want herself yet she blame God
Kong hee is not, he brainwashed the adherent, he uses the church money for luxury life. He definitely wants forgiveness to continue scam more money

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_x7WcpIsM3c

sorry, this is not hate, I think they already toxic your thinking, you don't understand how to differentiate right or wrong
I am secular christian, but I pray at home, I do good more than Kong hee, I help people without carry any name of organisation
Do you know there is a special hell ready to rip off the bad soul who protect the scammer?

https://mothership.sg/2018/12/chew-eng-han-...vest-convicted/

Look at this leader, attempt to run away from Singapore. Tell me such hypocrites, do they even feel guilty?

Well no
All sins separate us from God
But not all sins have same judgement

just ignore those delusional and ignorant CHC members la, they been brainwashed until they cant see whats right and wrong, whenever u question about kong hee stealing church money to them, they will go all out defend their kong hee 'god' and blast u left n right telling u not to believe on those 'fabricatied lies', they always say the singapore gomen and other churches try to kill off CHC deswai put kong hee into jail, really fark them wif their logic la, no difference wif jibby macais defending jibby say PH trying to bring him down by putting him into jail

wat einstein said stupidity is infinite is really true, CHC members are a perfect example of it

Violent tendency spotted lol 
thought you have kind and BeUaTIfuL heart with full of "Forgiveness"

Uhmm lolx