With so many different battery brands from various places Germany 🇩🇪, India 🇮🇳, South Korea 🇰🇷, Thailand 🇹🇭, Indonesia 🇮🇩,  Philippines 🇵🇭 etc, is there any that's  made in Malaysia 🇲🇾 ?

Varta 90ah come from manufacturer (German Made) can last for 6 year for my BMW but after changed another Varta 95ah (bought locally) can last just 2yrs++
what can i say, the new battery just last one or max 2++ yrs only

DIN60 AGM jual berapa bos?
Lead acid battery is not some super high tech precision manufacturing level. Not to say that batteries are easy to manufacture, but the construction and chemistry is pretty similar across brands.

It's really funny visiting various different battery shops and hearing them proprietors saying how good the quality of the batteries on their shelves while conveniently lumping other brands not on their shelves as substandard quality.

The reason being by the end of the day after taking into account of all their testimonies, there wouldn't even exist a battery that's good cause their testimonies would have cancelled out each & every battery brand. 😂 🤣

I think a more accurate question would be was the battery that lasted for 2 years only, bought from BMW SC's directly or from 3rd party battery resellers.

I gave up trying to look for a battery that’ll last 4 years. For some reason the original battery that comes with the car lasts 3-5 years (Bmw and vw in my case). I tried replacing with the highest spec I can find.. even Varta agm which costs 1.6k, and it died after 2 years. For vw it’s worse, can last probably 1 year or slightly more. I’m charging the vw battery regularly so it has been 1.5 years, don’t know how long I can push it. Battery on vw is Exide. Before this was Varta.

Ah that clarifies things! Thanks

@outpace now can you tell me if they’re specced the same? Pretty sure Bosch costs way cheaper vs varta. If it’s the same factory why should I pay extra for brands sake.

Other than CCA and AH, any other spec we shall take note as well? Like how much max current a battery can release in a sudden or short period of time.
What i noticed recently is my Yokohama Beta NS40 crank quicker than my FB HiDash NS40 and Amaron Hi Life NS60 in the same car.
Besides, the light dim the least when aircond compressor kick in and also engine accelerate smoother with Yokohama Beta.
Which make me feel that Yokohama Beta is Energizer AA battery and the other two are normal AA battery.

wow 24 pages quite fast. I should throw some math here for your data and for other people.

A typical car battery from googling has around 45Ah (US standard), at 12V nominal. Taking the approximate, thats 12x45= 540Wh. Since its bad to let the battery discharge  below 40%, that gives 3 out of 5 for our battery which equates to 324Wh. So if the idle power use of the car is 10W, that means it would have reached its low point in 32 hours. I looked up lead acid battery chemistry, they do like to be charged but dont like to be drained like a normal battery due to sulphation where the sulphur in the acid coats around the conductor and eventually blocks it off from conducting. The largest legal laptop battery you can bring on the plane is 100Wh, same applies to power banks and so on. A power bank of 20Ah (20000mAh) will have 3.7*20=74Wh.

Looking at this math, please please do not leave your lights on and minimise electrical usage of your car when the engine is off, and if you go off for a long time, please have another non lead acid battery charging your battery. If you drive everyday there is no need but if you go off for a week its something you should consider. Some ammeters can measure the electrical usage and perhaps something for you to consider testing to find out whether or not you need a charger if its over night or the minimum time you need to put a charger when you go off for long periods.

A couple of things i am trying to figure out, What is it that determines the capacity of the battery given the same sized lead acid battery for the same voltage?
I would also like to try experimenting, if its possible to create a NIMH supercap hybrid for below rm 2k for similar or better watt hours, which would mean 10 years of battery life, but if every 2 years you change your battery for rm 200, then that wouldnt be a saving, though the instant start from the supercaps could help start/stop features in cars.

i think what you're saying is that the heat is causing increased gas formation and also the reactivity of the acid? In which case for cars with battery infront its better to use unsealed?
Anyone here who have used unsealed battery can comment on lifespan?

I will say though that heat is only a small part of the equation, consider also the cost of the battery. For my parents their car battery only lasts less than 3 years, basically more than the normal 2 year amount for a battery that costs less than rm 200.

I also found out about the opposite battery, metal alkaline which uses 2 different metals and salt water which i guess forms the alkaline. From what i've seen in small scale testing the capacity would be impressive so i will build one and try out myself in the future before going on to make one for a car.

Small GP sealed lead acid battery lasted 7 years as a backup power for sensor, not car related but its GP brand so i dont know if anyone uses them. I find that they can be pretty pricey when it comes to tech offered but they do offer decent quality too.

Ok and thanks for your information. Here's what I can deduce.

Polo. It seems to have an exceptionally high power consumption of 24 CCA/month, far greater than all the cars that I have tested todate. Or maybe that is VW standard thingy, I don't know.

Gen2. Now I think I know what you are trying to say. However if I had guessed it correctly, the Gen2 high power consumption 16 CCA/month.

Here's the thing, one has to factor in power consumption as well in determining battery lifespan. The higher the power consumption, the shorter will the lifespan be, and vice versa. I know for sure that cars that runs only during the day, their batteries last longer than cars that runs at night. Simply because there is no load on the battery from the lights on day cars. Since you mentioned about frequent midnight jobs, that could be your very reason.

My sister-in-law gatal-gatal when to install a huge entertainment unit etc etc and then asked why her battery cannot last long. Now in order to say money on the DIN55 battery, now she never turns on the entertainment unit anymore.

A good friend of mine came in a new Odyssey and said that the battery dies after a year period. With the 2 huge automatic sliding doors, USB ports throughtout the car for charging 5 phones dan lain lain lagi, macam mana tak mati ?

I met a Chinese lady yesterday, whom is interested in attending my talk next month. She said she tries not to use the air-con where possible, just to save money on batteries and she managed to push her battery lifespan longer than before. I commended that it was very wise of her.

If anyone were to run 2 simple test, using 2 new batteries & let it self-discharge by itself sitting on the floor. The higher powered unit will certainly out last the lower powered unit accordingly based on CCA differences by the same proportion.

Bro., thank for the picture but if you could provide a picture of a setup 12V Gel Battery under the hood with those adaptors attached, it will definately clear all doubts.

I have always read about gel battery but never actually seen one yet. Can't wait to know more about this type of battery when it arrives in Melaka.

Battery explode? With today's technology and chargers, batteries still can explode?

The Century has higher CCA and Ah and only $10 more  than silver Varta.

Check out Q85-EFB 115D23L Century Continental MF Car Battery (Idling Stop, for Start and Stop Engine Vehicles) Car Battery for RM400.00 - RM430.00. Get it on Shopee now! https://shopee.com.my/product/330323008/576...33-1631446619.9.

As above have not purchase it yet 😂

RAMCAR on my preve last for 4 years. change it because its too old. my second RAMCAR only last for 2 years becasue PKP. car not moving for 6 month and park in shade.

Hi,
Mine is the non hybrid version.

On Malaysian HRV non hybrid models, nope, its not offered. But in the instruction manual , there is an Auto Start Stop feature, so its probably offered for other countries.

However you are right, Honda employs what they call "Two-Stage Electronic Load Detection (ELD) " in their electrical system. But not for power regeneration braking. 

http://cf.linnbenton.edu/eit/auto/krolicp/...LD_charging.pdf
https://opensiuc.lib.siu.edu/cgi/viewconten...ntext=auto_pres

Just to let u know, the early batch of x70 is using battery Din60L (60ah).
Later revision( assembled in bolehland) is using battery NS70L which is way cheaper.

That's weird, I remember seeing and reading out the word AGM Battery on the sticker in front of the Sales Advisor when it was launched.

Anyway from a DIN60L to NS70L macam down-grade je.

AGM battery cost a bomb and not suitable to be fitted in engine compartment.. I won't believe proton will put AGM battery in their cars. 

If following the true spec of NS70L(we all know that the local suppliers/manufacturers/importers tend to do hanky-panky shit) is 65D26L which should have 65AH.. Din60L has 60AH only.

When a car manufacturer decides to go seperately with a new technology via product differentiation, it creates for them a new market provided the consumers are receptive to their product. New products will come with a higher pricing since there are various other hidden costs attached apart from the fact that more energy is required to produce a battery of higher capacity. Higher energy simply means higher pricing or cost of production.

The real problem starts when customers are not receptive to their product which inevitably increases holding costs further which can translate to pricing as we can observe from the various posts in various threads.

If that wasn't enough, introducing another new product in the new facelift, which is completely different product from those in the existing market that's enjoying economies if scale, I wonder what the hell are these people trying to do ? Maybe they don't want so many customers already which is weird, aren't the customers the bread & butter of their business ? Are trying to kill the goose that lays the golden egg, too get more golden eggs out of it, who knows ? Irregardless of whatever the situation is, with the way things are going it will only lead to further price increases because of inefficiency.

before (LEFT) and after  (RIGHT) driving for 1hr

last photos, battery test during engine running