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post Apr 8 2019, 01:37 PM

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QUOTE(eddyann @ Apr 8 2019, 11:21 AM)
varta black 46b24ls, cca tested only 225CCA. kinda weak and I noticed it is weak to start a CR-V. The car is daily driven, no problem with the alternator, the engine can runs also when taking out the battery
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I wonder what will happen when the battery is removed from car after cranking it up for an extended drive ?
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post Apr 8 2019, 01:43 PM

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QUOTE(allenultra @ Apr 8 2019, 09:48 AM)
1 year warranty for all Varta sold in Malaysia by official distributor.
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It's perplexing isn't it ? Why is it that certain models of other brands even has better Warranty Period than Varta's despite its legendary reputation.

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true story.. i use brand RamCar.. original equipped battery Proton..

it lasts me for 5 years... and few months ago change to original battery..

very hard to get this battery type.. i looked almost 7 shops... all dun have.. end up bought at Glenmarie Proton...

cost around rm 200+..
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post Apr 8 2019, 03:39 PM

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QUOTE(wkc5657 @ Apr 8 2019, 11:07 AM)
DIN100 AGM for RM800??!!

So cheap? What brand?
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Camel DIN100L AGM - RM800 siap pasang, trade-in, battery registration

* Just sharing, will post in Garage Sales instead for other models

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post Apr 8 2019, 03:42 PM

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QUOTE(eddyann @ Apr 8 2019, 11:21 AM)
varta black 46b24ls, cca tested only 225CCA. kinda weak and I noticed it is weak to start a CR-V. The car is daily driven, no problem with the alternator, the engine can runs also when taking out the battery
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Varta Black, confirmed made in South Korea (Delkor plant). 2 years (46B24L) kinda good already if you ask me smile.gif

I would say for Honda CR-V, its better to put in 50B24L or 55B24L. Should last longer on paper
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QUOTE(Roman Catholic @ Apr 8 2019, 01:43 PM)
It's perplexing isn't it ? Why is it that certain models of other brands even has better Warranty Period than Varta's despite its legendary reputation.
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I question Varta salesman before.
Coz GP told us Varta/Delkor/GP all from the same production plant in South Korea, then the Varta salesman claim that Varta batteries using better technology as oppose to GP/Delkor/Energizer, and I asked why the warranty period remain 12 months? He kept quiet.

Johnson Controls own Varta/Delkor/Energiser, OEM for GP. JV partner of Amaron

There are no Blue/Black Dynamic from Varta till Johnson Controls bought them over. Then everyone gila want Varta (they thought everything made in Germany......)
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QUOTE(allenultra @ Apr 8 2019, 03:39 PM)
Camel DIN100L AGM - RM800 siap pasang, trade-in, battery registration

* Just sharing, will post in Garage Sales instead for other models
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I wanted to get this as the price is really attractive. However, it's from China and it's still new in the market. Rather spend a bit more to be safe as the battery is the only thing that connects and supplies electricity to the vehicle.

In the end, I got myself a Banner - Running Bull.
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QUOTE(allenultra @ Apr 8 2019, 03:45 PM)
I question Varta salesman before.
Coz GP told us Varta/Delkor/GP all from the same production plant in South Korea, then the Varta salesman claim that Varta batteries using better technology as oppose to GP/Delkor/Energizer, and I asked why the warranty period remain 12 months? He kept quiet.

Johnson Controls own Varta/Delkor/Energiser, OEM for GP. JV partner of Amaron

There are no Blue/Black Dynamic from Varta till Johnson Controls bought them over. Then everyone gila want Varta (they thought everything made in Germany......)
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You've hit the nail of the head with that salesman. 😂

I don't think Johnson Control ever bought over Varta the company. Johnson Controls only bought the exclusive rights to produce Varta batteries from Varta for these parts of the world.
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QUOTE(Roman Catholic @ Apr 8 2019, 04:00 PM)
You've hit the nail of the head with that salesman. 😂

I don't think Johnson Control ever bought over Varta the company. Johnson Controls only bought the exclusive rights to produce Varta batteries from Varta for these parts of the world.
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In 2002, the consumer battery activities (excluding button cells) were sold to Rayovac. The automotive battery business was acquired by Johnson Controls. The button cell and home energy storage businesses were acquired by Montana Tech Components.

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QUOTE(IamAHuman @ Apr 8 2019, 03:55 PM)
I wanted to get this as the price is really attractive. However, it's from China and it's still new in the market. Rather spend a bit more to be safe as the battery is the only thing that connects and supplies electricity to the vehicle.

In the end, I got myself a Banner - Running Bull.
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Yes. I agreed.
Camel is very new in Malaysia, 39 years in China.
One of my friends, choose FIAMM over Camel. RM900 vs RM600
He said made in China cannot use whistling.gif whistling.gif whistling.gif

I ordered the Camel 80D23L (18 months warranty) to replace the dying Varta 55D23L (2 years), let see how it goes.

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QUOTE(allenultra @ Apr 8 2019, 04:03 PM)
Oops I am really sorry for my mistake. I thought I was so sure that even my German friend was extremely proud about Vartas reputation.

Wait a minute, something doesn't smell right with this. Just like the JV partnership between DRB & Geely on Proton. Despite Geely being the minority shareholder but they're acting like the biggest shareholder.

As for the Warranty Period with Varta being only 1 year, that too smells fishy. Something isn't right somewhere.

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QUOTE(allenultra @ Apr 8 2019, 04:05 PM)
Yes. I agreed.
Camel is very new in Malaysia, 39 years in China.
One of my friends, choose FIAMM over Camel. RM900 vs RM600
He said made in China cannot use  whistling.gif  whistling.gif  whistling.gif

I ordered the Camel 80D23L (18 months warranty) to replace the dying Varta 55D23L (2 years), let see how it goes.
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Is Camel company a wholly owned foreign direct investment or owned by locals or a mixture of shareholdings ?

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QUOTE(Roman Catholic @ Apr 8 2019, 04:29 PM)
Is Camel company a wholly owned foreign direct investment or owned by locals or a mixture of shareholdings ?
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Should be FDI. Not sure of the Malaysia Sdn Bhd shareholder structure.

https://www.nst.com.my/business/2019/03/471...pansionary-mode
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QUOTE(allenultra @ Apr 8 2019, 04:36 PM)
Should be FDI. Not sure of the Malaysia Sdn Bhd shareholder structure.

https://www.nst.com.my/business/2019/03/471...pansionary-mode
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Those are some impressive figures, I must say.

Back with that kind of cold hard cash, looks like the Chinese are going to change how battery business is done around here.

It's either the competition pulls up their socks and match whatever the Chinese are giving or they will fold. It's only a matter of time.

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QUOTE(allenultra @ Apr 8 2019, 03:39 PM)
Camel DIN100L AGM - RM800 siap pasang, trade-in, battery registration

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DIN60 AGM jual berapa bos?

QUOTE(IamAHuman @ Apr 8 2019, 03:55 PM)
I wanted to get this as the price is really attractive. However, it's from China and it's still new in the market. Rather spend a bit more to be safe as the battery is the only thing that connects and supplies electricity to the vehicle.

In the end, I got myself a Banner - Running Bull.
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Lead acid battery is not some super high tech precision manufacturing level. Not to say that batteries are easy to manufacture, but the construction and chemistry is pretty similar across brands.

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QUOTE(allenultra @ Apr 8 2019, 03:42 PM)
Varta Black, confirmed made in South Korea (Delkor plant). 2 years (46B24L) kinda good already if you ask me smile.gif

I would say for Honda CR-V, its better to put in 50B24L or 55B24L. Should last longer on paper
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yes I think I notice it the marking got south korea...johnson control etc. I'm expecting it to hit 3 years at least like my last Delkor close to 4 years
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4 years..it depends how the owner/user use it
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QUOTE(wkc5657 @ Apr 8 2019, 10:35 PM)
DIN60 AGM jual berapa bos?
Lead acid battery is not some super high tech precision manufacturing level. Not to say that batteries are easy to manufacture, but the construction and chemistry is pretty similar across brands.
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For me, I'd rather be safe in trusted brands rather than unknown brands. After all, it's fitted to a vehicle that cost probably at least 100x more than the battery itself.

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