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post Jan 8 2019, 12:38 AM

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Varta stock 7yrs..plus
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post Jan 8 2019, 10:26 AM

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QUOTE(IamAHuman @ Jan 8 2019, 07:27 AM)
What car?
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2011 passat cc 2.0
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post Jan 8 2019, 10:57 AM

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QUOTE(4WD_er @ Jan 8 2019, 10:44 AM)
With heat insulation and regular charging or not ?

I know batteries in BMW or Merc can last long on models with battery located at the boot which is far from engine heat, something like 7-8 years max.

I recently wrapped all of my cars' batteries, and do regular charging with my Bosch C7, hopefully it can last long. 

On my previous Audi A6, the battery lasted the full 5 years when I sold it off in August, state of health ("SOH") rated at 70% when I sold it.  Still being used by the new owner.
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no, i didnt insulate, everything is kept stock on the car...but its good to have insulation as you mentioned, especially our hot weather here, which kills battery life faster.

From my personal experience battery sold here are just lower in quality and spec, hence in average local battery last only about 2 years.

When i use to live in US, most of the batteries came with 3-5 years warranty, they hardly die
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post Jan 8 2019, 02:13 PM

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QUOTE(Roman Catholic @ Jan 8 2019, 12:59 PM)
Hi VeeJay,

The US 3-5 years Warranty, does that apply to states like Hawaii & southern Florida too ?
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Sorry mate no idea on Hawaii but any state, its pretty much the same since the carrier and the brand is the same, hence the warranty even oem brand like AAA (similar to our AAM) also has 6 years of warranty


QUOTE(overfloe @ Jan 8 2019, 01:33 PM)
i guess one of the contributing of my short battery life is the need to switch on the lights when traveling to work and home as well as start-stop traffic.
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I grew up as mandatory headlights, hence, i had always turned my lights during my drive. During drive, the supply comes from alternator and not the battery. battery comes to play during startup and when idle for a long time.
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post Jan 10 2019, 08:32 PM

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QUOTE(acbc @ Jan 10 2019, 07:41 PM)
Battery very sensitive to heat. If battery is located inside the front bonnet, it won't last long. Max also 2 years if lucky.

If located underneath the rear seats or rear boot, easily 4-5 years.
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Partially true but not absolute. As I mentioned previously, mine had passed 7yrs and still running well. If thats the case it would have died earlier.

While in US, most of my car easily passed 5-6yrs, yeah its cold country but engine heat is is engine heat, especially from mid spring till mid fall, the weather do get hot and at times hotter than MY.

To me, the majority of the battery here just lack the quality, hence many dare not give more than 18months warranty.
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post Jan 11 2019, 11:46 AM

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QUOTE(Roman Catholic @ Jan 11 2019, 11:34 AM)
NOTICE : STILL BEING EDITED

NO # 2 : MODERATE TEMPERATURE FOR MAXIMUM PERFORMANCE

It's common knowledge that extreme temperatures reduces the lifespan of lead acid batteries, I won't go into details about chemical reactions etc but I will state what I had done under existing circumstances (battery in the engine bay) being in a tropical country.

Cars that have their battery located in places other than the engine bay, the battery seems to be able to hold out longer than those in the engine Bay Area. Besides my father-in-law very old Toyota Corona with exceptionally large bonnet allows maximum Ventilation within a confined space as compared to modern smaller cars.

NOTE : I believe the key word is PROLONGED EXPOSURE TO EXTREME TEMPERATURES which actually reduces its lifespan.

A) INSULATE THE BATTERY - Having an insulator in place helps cut the heat being radiated to the battery drastically.

B) OPEN UP THE BONNET FOR MAXIMUM AERATION & HEAT DISSIPATION - After most of my drives where permissible, I will open up my bonnet even to the Service Center for the engine bay to cool faster.

C)
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True, that goes to any battery, extreme heat is a battery killer! smile.gif
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post Jan 12 2019, 11:32 AM

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QUOTE(Roman Catholic @ Jan 12 2019, 08:18 AM)
Bro, I've got a question about your Varta battery right ? Did you bring this back directly from the US when you returned ? Is it MF or non-MF ?
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no it came with the car. passat cc is a CBU model hence the varta is a germany made
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post Jan 25 2019, 06:59 PM

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QUOTE(Roman Catholic @ Jan 25 2019, 06:01 PM)
I don't know about you guys but all these while I was under the impression that automotive batteries are made in large factories with proper equipments etc.

What I saw today just blew my mind. Out from the back of the shop lot, they workers brought batteries clean and unmarked whatsoever to be charged. It was then the batteryman ended my conversation with him to attend to these "new batteries" that unnamed and unmarked etc.

Surely there's a market for such batteries but as to what name it's marketed under, now that is something I will try to find that one out.
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Kat Msia semua boleh, bro...sigh!
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post Jan 25 2019, 09:44 PM

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QUOTE(Roman Catholic @ Jan 25 2019, 08:36 PM)
I memang terkejut nampak batteri bateri yg ditolak atas trolley bawa ke depan dimana ada industrial charger mereka. I've always assume from big factories, mana tau shop lot boleh jadi production center ! Steady bugger, mana tau maybe cap "......." boleh tahan berapa lama ? Kalau tak silap, 1 forummer here somewhere pernah tulis cap "Ayam" brand lebih baik daripada brand famous.

Betul u cakap, kat Msia ini semua boleh .... tapi hanya satu benda aje tak boleh, kadar pertukaran wang asing.
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tu sebab wang asing la! kalau wang tempatan sure boleh punya! hahaha lol
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post Mar 11 2019, 10:51 AM

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QUOTE(Roman Catholic @ Mar 11 2019, 07:42 AM)
Got their replies.

1st Case

Owner of the Kia Spectra don't really recall the details of the incident as no service documents were kept. Besides it's been a really long time already.

However as a passenger of that vehicle, I can faintly recall that before the car loss all power supply, the aircon and radio went off first, after a minute or so, power to the instrument panel also went off ! Then the vehicle just died like that very close to the repair shop.

2nd Case

Owner of Nissan X-Trail, who gave me the dead Yokohama battery said his X-Trail just died while he was on his was to a meeting. After replacing with a new battery by the road side, the X-Trial was behaving normal again.

Nothing else was changed and the Service Center affirms that the X-Trail alternator is ok.

Strange isn't it ? All previous posts that I've read suggest that vehicles can operate normally by removing the battery after it has been started. Under these circumstance especially the 2nd case shows otherwise ! Hmmm
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The 1st case, seems to be alternator issue hence its not charging the battery.

The second case, maybe the car stalled when he slowed down or in heavy traffic. When the car is on slow traffic the alternative wont be able able t produce the current needed, therefore it requires the battery to power the instruments. Since the battery in bad condition, the car stalled.
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post Mar 17 2019, 09:37 PM

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QUOTE(Roman Catholic @ Mar 17 2019, 09:08 PM)
That's what the battery player(s) would like all of us to presume, from India 🇮🇳 and that's it.

I recall my research into Amaron and I don't remember seeing Malaysia listed as 1 of the countries batteries are exported to; but then again Amaron website may not be up todate that time.

But with your picture and a different font type on their  brand name, now this is where it gets really interesting. LOL
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I thought it has a big presence here

https://www.amaronmalaysia.com/

and Tecxus Marketing is the main distributor for Amara raja

Powerzone is also from them

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post Mar 17 2019, 10:20 PM

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QUOTE(therain01 @ Mar 17 2019, 09:44 PM)
Well it is commonly assume that overcharge will cause white powder at positive terminal. Many were claiming such, probably due to positive terminal side was heating up when overcharged. As far as I concern, it's all come to the quality of the battery housing. Bad housing at terminal are causing leak after some time.

Answer to your question, no I can't give the definite answer and I doubt there's absolute answer out there.
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Here is a good explanation on it

https://jalopnik.com/heres-the-deal-with-th...r-ca-1796168791

Positive terminal
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Since that picture right above is of the positive terminal, let’s start there. The greenish-bluish crap is likely copper sulfate that’s been exposed to a bit of moisture. This is formed when the copper in the terminal clamp reacts with the lead in the battery terminal, helped along by the transmission of electrical current and sulfuric acid from inside the battery, and maybe seeping out a bit from various seams.

The chemical reaction looks like this:

Cu (s) + 2 H2SO4 (ℓ) → CuSO4 (aq) + 2 H2O (ℓ) + SO2 (g)

This copper sulfate does not conduct electricity very well, which is why battery performance will degrade (and, with that, you’ll get other electrical issues), and why it’s a good idea to clean this stuff off the terminal. Baking soda and water are good for removing the corrosion, because the baking soda will neutralize the acidic copper sulfate.

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Negative Terminal


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Now, if you have white powdery corrosion around the negative terminal, that’s different stuff and is there because of a different cause. The white powder is the result of a process called sulfation, and it’s usually caused by a lead-acid battery not being charged enough.

This can happen if your car is used for mostly shorter trips, especially if you have a modern, electricity-hungry car. Modern cars tend to have a lot of ancillary electronics that draw a good bit of current, and if you mostly drive in short hops, the alternator may not be running long enough to properly recharge the battery.
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Personally, I normally oil the terminal with wd40, there is a oil ring protectant washer thats being sold
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post Mar 22 2019, 10:54 AM

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QUOTE(LemonKnight @ Mar 21 2019, 08:41 PM)
I'd buy exide matrix, it has more CCA than both of these batteries and has the long warranty like the amaron. Hope this helps you. If you live in klang valley I can recommend you a good seller of this brand.
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I guess there is no harm sharing the contact here on the thread...as long as it doesnt turn into a sales thread..lol.

similar to tyre thread we have, members do share shop location and price, so that future members could source easily and share their experience.
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post Apr 3 2019, 01:17 PM

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QUOTE(Cruxs @ Apr 3 2019, 11:07 AM)
Varta 10years.
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wow! i got a partner now (mine 8yrs)....but as i said, the original fitted battery that comes with the car is different in quality compared to those being sold here

what car is it on?

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Finally departed my 6yrs 9 months old Century Marathoner NS70L battery on my Sorento. cry.gif

This time betting on Amaron 18mths warranty 95D26L - rm350

Let see how it goes!
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QUOTE(edisoner90 @ Oct 15 2019, 09:30 AM)
wow... i wonder if he drove that sorento daily or less driving period...

aww i am at klang valley... too bad it was a distance away.. cry.gif  yea i was looking into how battery can at least last for min 2 yrs to 3 yrs period...

yea true that battery experiencing hard cranking mean having sign of failure soon.
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Yup, pretty much, but I alternate with my passat. I clock about 15Kkm per year on each car.

I think my passat battery might need a replacement as well probably in 2020. Its been 8 years plus with Varta Ori from germany.
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QUOTE(wkc5657 @ Oct 15 2019, 02:04 PM)
fuh~~~ flex.gif
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ya...but now the headache starts....cracking my head...which battery to go with. Maybe Varta silver AGM...but its gonna be costly...heard its around rm800-1km....havent really seriously start sourcing.

If any of you have some info, do share ya notworthy.gif

btw, Roman Catholic had asked in earlier posting if i do anything different to maintain the battery...hmmm

The only thing different compared to my friends and relatives are...ensure the battery terminal is clean, apply grease at the terminal, check regularly the connector is tight.

I dont start my car immediately after inserting the key, will just leave it at ON position for 30sec or so before starting the car...its just due to electronics and no spike, which in turn "may" help the battery life as well.
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QUOTE(wkc5657 @ Oct 15 2019, 04:51 PM)
If you're not thinking of keeping the car for long, then amaron hi life pro or camel agm series, a good balance between performance and cost.

But since varta has been so good to your car, just go back to it  nod.gif

Maybe you should just get a battery condition reading before you sink in money for a new battery. If still looks quite ok/average (definitely won't remain healthy as so long already) , might as well just keep running it until the battery dies/almost dead tongue.gif

Actually, about 5 seconds is sufficient, usually the airbag indicator dash light is the last to go off, after that can start already. more than that seems like an unnecessary loading on the battery. But who knows, maybe your technique is some unknown secret yet to be discovered!
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lol...i said 30sec figuratively haha...but to me, it do take 30sec before i start, pakai seatbelt, take out my office id card, etc. But as you said, just 5-10sec is good enough.

I did get replace Amaron Hi-Life for my Sorento.....but I think i want CCA around 800...lets see what else I can survey on

This is the model i got for my sorento
https://shopee.com.my/AMARON-HI-LIFE-NS70L-...8188.1118889079

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QUOTE(System Error Message @ Oct 28 2019, 05:50 PM)
it could be that the batteries provided with the car arent from malaysia. In the US batteries will not last long, because of the business or cash flow which includes the whole recycling process. If you watch the documentaries its impressive.

Some japanese and european manufacturers also would have the same focus, on longevity for instance. I heard even for normal AA batteries that where its manufactured regardless of brand plays a bigger role in how much mAh you get and its lifespan and performance.
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Ya, I dont think majority of Msian battery would last long, 2-3 years max. But US batteries do last long from my experience, and they come from 3-5yrs warranty, as well.
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QUOTE(jamespaul @ Oct 29 2019, 07:56 AM)
First BMW battery change in 10 years, E90 325i.

Daily driven but short distances only. Car is parked in garage or underground carparks.

Brand was Varta.

The battery is the most reliable part about this car!
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LOL! biggrin.gif

Ya, my varta been long lasting as well, since its Ori from germany that came with the car. Mine is now 8yrs plus going into its 9th year.

SO which battery did you replaced with? Or you went with Varta Germany?

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