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jenniferjen
post Dec 6 2018, 11:08 PM

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QUOTE(hirano @ Dec 6 2018, 03:46 PM)
Ahaha now in the end it's about the interest % aint it. Mampu but tak nak bayar. Bukan tak mampu.

Ujrah at 1% should now be increased to 4-5% like bank.
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1% ke 4% ke tapi bila sign contract itu interestnya, we follow la.

Mampu tapi bayar jugak apa masalah?

I cannot brain why some k here keep saying if you got money die die must fast fast pay finish ptptn

I got money i cover my house loan better while paying reasonably to ptptn.
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post Dec 6 2018, 11:15 PM

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QUOTE(Kyojin @ Dec 6 2018, 04:53 PM)
Herein where the problem lies. Repayment of the PTPTN loan is the lowest of priorities to you because it's only a 1% interest and there was option given to you by the previous government to drag it out as long as possible. Although it's entire possible to finish repaying the loans much earlier, you decided not to because you do not care. I repaid my loans before they were due because it wasn't just a loan to me, it was to pay it forward to ensure that OTHER PEOPLE WOULD HAVE THE SAME OPPORTUNITY TO FURTHER THEIR EDUCATION.

The are even some mutherfuckers in here who views it as easy credit, saying that it's financially wiser to take advantage of the lower interest rate and invest it elsewhere. You bastards are the problem, it's a freaking education loan and it only works if everyone pays back what they owe. The previous government fucked it up with the repayment options, YOU DON'T HAVE TO.

I don't get it with the siege mentality that it is you against the defaulters. You've got the moolah, you fucked up your priorities and it's the defaulters' fault?

Having said that, 1.2k is kinda steep but RM8k guys definitely shouldn't only be paying RM300.
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I do appreciate your initiative but i think the mentality of paying full loan asap for the next generation to be able to get money to study from the same loan is very wrong.

The weakness is in previous way the loan was set and how it should be repay back. If gov need continuos fund to support the next generation, they should had think of a better contract or loan agreement that cover repayment.

With current loan, is unfair to force pay to the defaulter just because other doesnt pay their part, those monthly payers have to pay a lot more.

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post Dec 6 2018, 11:38 PM

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from this issue, we can find out how each /k is, on a scale of commie basterd to capitalist scum
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QUOTE(haimirmaya @ Dec 6 2018, 03:37 PM)
I do have saving. The point is. When u sign the contract. Agreement. Honor it. Simple as that. My saving. My money..its all up to me to do. Who are they to come in the dark, just sudden asked for more.
Nk bayar cepat. Nk bayar lambat. My right that already been agreed earlier. Those all statement here from /k Why xbayar? Aku bayar. With the term that agrees earlier. Simple. Like u buy a car. Why go for 9 years?
Why go for 7 years? Simple..people rights to choose. Its your life to carry on. I did mine. Since the interest was low and Im following the agreed arrangement and do a good payment. This is totally unfair and bullshit.
The reason all people jumping is because the extra payment ur force to pay. Bukan xnk bayar. /k level mentality makin low and kuda too much.
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if the terms in agreement got "PTPTN have right n power to increase the % when they see it is needed" and they use it, meaning they honor the agreement or not?

QUOTE(bylkw2 @ Dec 6 2018, 04:08 PM)
I quitted following this thread after I saw most of the people here are just plain stupid, ya I do understand that here is /k but obviously they are not trolling but actually thinking and commenting ridiculously and ignorantly

Of course the agreement surely got clause to change whatever they want, and yes, we all indeed signed that, but problem here is never ever had something like this happened before (at least from what I have concerned) as in sudden spike up of repayment %, if we do know thing like this beforehand, nobody would have taken this PTPTN loan

Most importantly, some of us do pay on time and according to the agreed and scheduled amount even though we could pay more, but we do not because we want to use the disposable income at other commitments, and we have already planned all these revolving around the PTPTN loan

Govt is so ignorant that they do not want to punish only the defaulters when they could, I just cannot, this country is hopeless basically alongside all the other issues happening
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+1 well said bro


the issue is not we are not pay the loan at all, we pay according to the agreement.
those who still with 'dah pinjam bayar la' really doh.gif



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post Dec 7 2018, 10:07 AM

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What if suddenly all bank loans follow this stupid ptptn style within short period of notice?

Some forumers in /k talk so big. You think you can handle this? Especially when you already have home loan and car loan to service. Don’t lie.

Some stupid forumers said must settle the loan then only can think about marriage and have a family. I want to know how are you going to pay in such a big amount within short period of time? You don’t have other commitment need to pay? All your salary clean masuk tabung? Don’t tell me you are foreveralone. House and car semua daddykasi.
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QUOTE(POYOZER @ Dec 7 2018, 10:07 AM)
What if suddenly all bank loans follow this stupid ptptn style within short period of notice?

Some forumers in /k talk so big. You think you can handle this? Especially when you already have home loan and car loan to service. Don’t lie.

Some stupid forumers said must settle the loan then only can think about marriage and have a family. I want to know how are you going to pay in such a big amount within short period of time? You don’t have other commitment need to pay? All your salary clean masuk tabung? Don’t tell me you are foreveralone. House and car semua daddykasi.
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talk no 1

those talk big sure no ptptn or daddykasi
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post Dec 7 2018, 10:09 AM

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earn 8k, monthly pcb baru what? 600+?
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post Dec 7 2018, 10:23 AM

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QUOTE(bakry @ Dec 7 2018, 10:09 AM)
earn 8k, monthly pcb baru what? 600+?
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based on this table https://www.imoney.my/articles/income-tax-g...assessment-2016

RM8000 * 12 month = RM 96000. so you get tax RM5600 + RM5460 (RM 26000 * 21%) = RM 11060. so that would be around RM921.70 per month.

If you happen to get a 1 month bonus of 13 months salary. you will fall under the next bracket where you have to pay, RM 11900 + RM 960 ( RM4000 * 24%) = RM 12860 which is roughly RM 1071.70 per month.

This post has been edited by brkli: Dec 7 2018, 10:24 AM
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post Dec 7 2018, 10:27 AM

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QUOTE(brkli @ Dec 7 2018, 10:23 AM)
based on this table https://www.imoney.my/articles/income-tax-g...assessment-2016

RM8000 * 12 month = RM 96000. so you get tax RM5600 + RM5460 (RM 26000 * 21%) = RM 11060. so that would be around RM921.70 per month.

If you happen to get a 1 month bonus of 13 months salary. you will fall under the next bracket  where you have to pay, RM 11900 + RM 960 ( RM4000 * 24%) = RM 12860 which is roughly RM 1071.70 per month.
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I was looking at this one.
http://lampiran1.hasil.gov.my/pdf/pdfam/Jadual_PCB_2018.pdf

If you go to 7996 - 8000 a month, pcb is 680. i confused liao
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post Dec 7 2018, 10:30 AM

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should just replace mazlee

so many blunders.
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QUOTE(bakry @ Dec 7 2018, 10:27 AM)
I was looking at this one.
http://lampiran1.hasil.gov.my/pdf/pdfam/Jadual_PCB_2018.pdf

If you go to 7996 - 8000 a month, pcb is 680. i confused liao
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still, 1200 is not enough to claim back that income tax..

knn this gohmen..
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post Dec 7 2018, 10:31 AM

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QUOTE(fadzly @ Dec 7 2018, 10:30 AM)
still, 1200 is not enough to claim back that income tax..

knn this gohmen..
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Im just saying, still possible. things will be tight, but possible
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QUOTE(bakry @ Dec 7 2018, 10:27 AM)
I was looking at this one.
http://lampiran1.hasil.gov.my/pdf/pdfam/Jadual_PCB_2018.pdf

If you go to 7996 - 8000 a month, pcb is 680. i confused liao
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i think this is quite accurate as it takes into accounts all the tax exemption and deductible amounts.. when u earn rm100k per year, doesn't me your taxable income is rm100k.. usually it's closer to 80k.. which is at the rm680 bracket..

RM5,600(70k) + RM2,100 (10k *21%) = RM7,700 ~ RM640 per month.
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QUOTE(nickykee @ Dec 7 2018, 10:30 AM)
should just replace mazlee

so many blunders.
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wahh. 1st time u join politic
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post Dec 7 2018, 10:35 AM

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QUOTE(akecema @ Dec 7 2018, 10:31 AM)
wahh. 1st time u join politic
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QUOTE(bakry @ Dec 7 2018, 10:27 AM)
I was looking at this one.
http://lampiran1.hasil.gov.my/pdf/pdfam/Jadual_PCB_2018.pdf

If you go to 7996 - 8000 a month, pcb is 680. i confused liao
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Because haven't factored tax deduction like RM9k personal, medical, children, insurance, lifestyle etc deduction.

Deduct all that, generally RM680 pcb is enough, even usually will get refund when do filing.
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SELFISH

bila ada duit… x nak langsaikan ptptn sekaligus

nak kahwin kos & hantaran berpuluh ribu, kereta mau brand H, honeymoon mau overseas, lahir anak nak kat ala2 prince court...

ptptn bukannye charity nak bagi free..
ujrah zaman jibby bodo tu bukannye sustainable business model..
lagi cepat & ramai orang langsaikan hutang.. makin ramai generasi baru pelajar dapat menikmati keistimewaan ini

so ownself SELFISH, now gov also act a bit selfish... meroyan.. if ur in this category.. I have no pity.
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QUOTE(lee_lnh @ Dec 7 2018, 10:41 AM)
SELFISH

bila ada duit… x nak langsaikan ptptn sekaligus

nak kahwin kos & hantaran berpuluh ribu, kereta mau brand H, honeymoon mau overseas, lahir anak nak kat ala2 prince court...

ptptn bukannye charity nak bagi free..
ujrah zaman jibby bodo tu bukannye sustainable business model..
lagi cepat & ramai orang langsaikan hutang.. makin ramai generasi baru pelajar dapat menikmati keistimewaan ini

so ownself SELFISH, now gov also act a bit selfish... meroyan.. if ur in this category.. I have no pity.
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EH.

we meroyan is not because we selfish. we meroyan why we need to pay more than the previous agreement

RM 400 per month compared to RM1200 per month is totally different knn...


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QUOTE(lee_lnh @ Dec 7 2018, 10:41 AM)
SELFISH

bila ada duit… x nak langsaikan ptptn sekaligus

nak kahwin kos & hantaran berpuluh ribu, kereta mau brand H, honeymoon mau overseas, lahir anak nak kat ala2 prince court...

ptptn bukannye charity nak bagi free..
ujrah zaman jibby bodo tu bukannye sustainable business model..
lagi cepat & ramai orang langsaikan hutang.. makin ramai generasi baru pelajar dapat menikmati keistimewaan ini

so ownself SELFISH, now gov also act a bit selfish... meroyan.. if ur in this category.. I have no pity.
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how kam pembangkang dulu can said no need paid
now all sudah banyak, want pay balik pun sudah susah
i hate Parti Hanceng
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post Dec 7 2018, 10:44 AM

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QUOTE(bylkw2 @ Dec 6 2018, 05:58 PM)
It is not mandatory for one to finish repaying earlier, but the person’s own willingness and kindness.

I appreciate your willingness to settle it earlier, but no, we did care and did not fk up our priorities, and in fact structure them nicely instead because we do repay it on time according to the agreement.

Other people can surely have the opportunities to take the loans too if enforcements and decisions were done right, but this is sadly not the case.
i.e. do not give full-waiver for first-class honors, 10% discount for direct debit and 20% for one-time lump sum repayment when they know the institution cannot afford to do so, and do nothing towards defaulters as well.

Of course, like I said, we all can do nothing because we all indeed signed the agreement, and they can change whichever clause they want.

This world is the survival of fitness; I too agree that these motherfkers are smart yet selfish but who to blame? Blame the fking corrupted ex-govt by letting those who are rich to borrow the money in the first place and letting people to exploit this badly, then when all shits got exposed, new govt just simply decided to hike up the repayment amount with almost no buffering period.

If only if this loan worked like what it is going to be, or with proper planning and enforcement, perhaps many would not have borrowed or have repaid nicely.
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Let me put it this way, you wouldn't be paying a measly RM300 if it was a loan from the bank. Now, if you were to have any decent sense of civic responsibility, you'd do the right thing and pay back your loans as much as you could afford, rather than to take advantage of the system. The previous government screwed up with the repayment options given, fact. You were just looking out for yourself, fact.

Curious how the narrative have not been, it'd been OK if they increased it to 10-12%, but not 15%, but just a flat out dismissal the proposal all together. Bunch of entitled twats.

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QUOTE(bylkw2 @ Dec 6 2018, 06:03 PM)
He probably got tilted and triggered by those outsmarted him to survive and do better in the society while not being guilty under the laws, and tries to be a saint.
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Definitely triggered because entitled people with the haves do not want to pull weight, despite having the means to do so. Outsmarted? Yep, certainly so, because now that I have my loans all paid up, I do not have to worry about being caught out after overcomitting financially, pretty happy about being outsmarted. Being a saint? I do try, but I do certainly hope that it messes up travel plans for some people here.



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