Their initial problem is the loan defaulter who didn't pay on time or didn't pay at all and suddenly punished all together with the good ones.
Salary 8k will be potong 1.2k to pay PTPTN Chat
Salary 8k will be potong 1.2k to pay PTPTN Chat
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Dec 7 2018, 10:58 AM
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Why don't just punish the defaulter but to imposed it on the good paymaster? Why?
Their initial problem is the loan defaulter who didn't pay on time or didn't pay at all and suddenly punished all together with the good ones. |
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Dec 7 2018, 11:03 AM
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Dec 7 2018, 11:08 AM
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QUOTE(brkli @ Dec 7 2018, 10:23 AM) based on this table https://www.imoney.my/articles/income-tax-g...assessment-2016 Please differentiate between gross income and taxable income....RM8000 * 12 month = RM 96000. so you get tax RM5600 + RM5460 (RM 26000 * 21%) = RM 11060. so that would be around RM921.70 per month. If you happen to get a 1 month bonus of 13 months salary. you will fall under the next bracket where you have to pay, RM 11900 + RM 960 ( RM4000 * 24%) = RM 12860 which is roughly RM 1071.70 per month. |
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Dec 7 2018, 11:10 AM
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QUOTE(tokyo2020 @ Dec 7 2018, 11:00 AM) hopefully if they really gila and implement this rule, I hope= Sendiri miskin dengki orang kaya1) Apple iPhone and other device 0 sales in Malaysia 2) Luxury restaurants, hipster cafes, cafe like starbucks and othe rhigh end cafe empty all the time but chap fan stall always full house. 3) Less people show off on insta, even sell off their new phone to save money for daily usage and use low class phone 4) Property crashed down and bank stop borrowing to property developers. |
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Dec 7 2018, 11:10 AM
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Actually the solution is simple. They should use net income and not gross income as the benchmark on % of payment. Net income means after all statutory deductions but does not include personal loans such as housing, car, etc.
I am sure someone who has net income of 8k should be able to afford 1.2k installment. |
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Dec 7 2018, 11:12 AM
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QUOTE(oucheev @ Dec 7 2018, 11:10 AM) Actually the solution is simple. They should use net income and not gross income as the benchmark on % of payment. Net income means after all statutory deductions but does not include personal loans such as housing, car, etc. Later still cook up sad story saying got high commitments how let?I am sure someone who has net income of 8k should be able to afford 1.2k installment. Those teling sad story moatlynshoild be defaulter running away from paying all this while |
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Dec 7 2018, 11:14 AM
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QUOTE(bylkw2 @ Dec 6 2018, 06:33 PM) part of it is your money if you do pay income tax so for people who pay income tax, and pay their PTPTN loan, can we say that they are double paying?so, basically defaulters use your hard-earned money wrongfully and don’t repay what they owe i mean, i give you money, you come up with a scheme to use that money to lend it to other people to get interest income. and apparently the "other people" here is you. so you are borrowing money from yourself and have to pay back with insterest? hmm i hope i am explaning it right way.. hope sum one can get my point here |
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Dec 7 2018, 11:17 AM
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QUOTE(Gon Freaks @ Dec 7 2018, 11:14 AM) so for people who pay income tax, and pay their PTPTN loan, can we say that they are double paying? dont think so. as you took the loan when you were not paying any income tax. studying mai mean, i give you money, you come up with a scheme to use that money to lend it to other people to get interest income. and apparently the "other people" here is you. so you are borrowing money from yourself and have to pay back with insterest? hmm i hope i am explaning it right way.. hope sum one can get my point here |
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Dec 7 2018, 11:22 AM
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QUOTE(Gon Freaks @ Dec 7 2018, 11:14 AM) so for people who pay income tax, and pay their PTPTN loan, can we say that they are double paying? good point. But PTPTN and gov would need to show the transparency that they are indeed using tax money to provide ptptn loan, then they / we can proceed to make a case of this. i mean, i give you money, you come up with a scheme to use that money to lend it to other people to get interest income. and apparently the "other people" here is you. so you are borrowing money from yourself and have to pay back with insterest? hmm i hope i am explaning it right way.. hope sum one can get my point here But if they dont reveal, there's ntg to be done here. Which i think they will not easily reveal. lol |
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Dec 7 2018, 11:23 AM
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QUOTE(tokyo2020 @ Dec 7 2018, 11:12 AM) so? suka hati I lah..... they tak layak jadi kaya, especially PTPTN borrowers, no rights to enjoy life till they pay off Reply to ur last question and also those richfag whom cheat to borrow ptptn, also no right to enjoy life. I know u kaya coz BN ma, bodo but put aside my statement, why bising when this only apply to 8k++ earners? Cause their mthly payment according to agreement n now is around 200-300 per mth n have being paying gor years Sudden change next mth payment become 1.2k n above U said rage or not |
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Dec 7 2018, 11:25 AM
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QUOTE(briantwj @ Dec 7 2018, 11:22 AM) good point. But PTPTN and gov would need to show the transparency that they are indeed using tax money to provide ptptn loan, then they / we can proceed to make a case of this. which was my intial question, where did the Public fund come from?But if they dont reveal, there's ntg to be done here. Which i think they will not easily reveal. lol |
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Dec 7 2018, 11:28 AM
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Dec 7 2018, 11:30 AM
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Dec 7 2018, 11:36 AM
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So how many people earning 8k above still haven't settled their PTPTN?
Somebody who earned a fresh grad salary of 3k would need about 12 years to reach 8K salary with a generous 10% yearly increment. And PTPTN contract terms are usually 10 to 15 years only, so they would have jsut a couple.of thousand in PTPTN debt at this point. |
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Dec 7 2018, 11:46 AM
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Dec 7 2018, 11:53 AM
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QUOTE(red_satu @ Dec 7 2018, 11:36 AM) So how many people earning 8k above still haven't settled their PTPTN? Unless they have not been paying regularly. Somebody who earned a fresh grad salary of 3k would need about 12 years to reach 8K salary with a generous 10% yearly increment. And PTPTN contract terms are usually 10 to 15 years only, so they would have jsut a couple.of thousand in PTPTN debt at this point. Jeng! Jeng! Jeng! |
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Dec 7 2018, 11:58 AM
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QUOTE(tokyo2020 @ Dec 7 2018, 11:32 AM) tapi abang 8k is not a nett salary8 k and above salary, bukan 1k and above, kalau they do this 1k till 3k earners , then I agree with you 100% ini 8k, cut off luxury life, sure still can live comfortably And with today living expenses, 1.2k is burdening If i loan and left 30k, repay 600 a month, i think 4 years would complete the loan. I think this is good. Sure with 1.2k you can complete it in 2 years but is really should be up to the individual, not with such a scheme. |
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Dec 7 2018, 11:59 AM
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QUOTE(oucheev @ Dec 7 2018, 11:53 AM) Then padan muka them. Or in other words, the 15% rate for those above 8k salary is clearly targetted to those who have neglected to pay all this while and should have been able to for years.This post has been edited by red_satu: Dec 7 2018, 12:02 PM |
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Dec 7 2018, 12:00 PM
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QUOTE(jenniferjen @ Dec 7 2018, 11:58 AM) 8k is not a nett salary 4 years to pay off a 30k loan?And with today living expenses, 1.2k is burdening If i loan and left 30k, repay 600 a month, i think 4 years would complete the loan. I think this is good. Sure with 1.2k you can complete it in 2 years but is really should be up to the individual, not with such a scheme. if get bonus, can use to percepatkan |
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Dec 7 2018, 12:01 PM
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I am only a diploma holder from KDU and it took me around 5 years(or more, I can't remember) to clear my study loans and my salary was around 2.8k at the time. I was already paying taxes since my salary was above 2.5k. Max monthly I had to pay was RM400 but that was because my priority was to clear my loans first. Also not forgetting I was paying RM500 as well for my Proton Saga FL during the time. Only then when my salary hits 3k then I started to buy an apartment. So really, it is all how you want to prioritized how you want to handle your money. You sendiri tak cukup duit but want to go to do to investment. What's the point of investing with such small amount?
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