Don't tell us, tell HR. Then let us know the results.

Now normally all MNC in penang will need your previous payslip.

HR will use this to nego with you on $. But since your hiring manager keen to hire you, you can stand firm your title with requested/expected $...

FYI i jump quite often and every jump with 30 to 40%

This post has been edited by Ree73: Nov 6 2018, 11:09 AM

Telling the HR won't work. They are just doing their jobs according to the policies.
Telling the big boss or C-level might work, provided they can vouch for us.

Unfortunately, most candidates won't have this leverage. So the most viable way would be to constantly looking out to test the market, regardless of payslip, which is what most of the employees are doing.

So the deduction I can find from what I see - jump your way to the top, not work your way to the top, if this is what the current market wants.

Exactly, with this current HR policy, working hard and building your skills doesn’t work well.

Just sit in one job for a year, and jump at year end.

Keep doing that as HR will only be looking at your payslip as a sign of your worth.

Every company wants their employees to work their way to the top, and not to jump to the top.

Employment candidates who job hop frequently are not considered for employment at all. Totally no loyalty there. Not worth the money for investment.

Loyalty is another issue for another day. But since the job market values payslips and skillsets, loyalty won't be a factor in consideration.

By the way, loyalty scheme won't work in today's market trend, especially those in tech sectors.

Another fine example about loyalty bXXXsXXt that most HR touted would be about VSS/MSS/FSS(forced separation scheme) within a company. What can loyalty do in this situation? I can be a loyal staff that spent 10 years and yet got dismissed because I don't fit in the cmpany's grand scheme.

It works both ways.

u give. but the pay u want exceed the 20% increment from your current. they only can give 15-20%. what will u do?

take or reject?

if u reject, how many companies out there can u reject? at one point, u will just accept.

Job market says otherwise.

You can have the skills to pass the hiring manager, but HR will only judge you by your payslip - job hopping skills to continuously increase your salary will help then.

kerana ego...tak dapat kerja kesian

actually its just their procedure la, cos they need to ensure u r not lying for ur previous salary

Kesian wanna tunjuk macho backfire now come here rant.

You have a right not to show your payslip. They also have the right not to offer you a role.

If you are that good, they will bend over backwards to hire you. If you get stunted because of a payslip, you are not that good of a talent.

that's the only best way. or get high increment in your company.

+1

HR is there to safe guard the company interest and also as independent reviewer...... Hiring managers like you is another story while HR is to ensure everyone is comply to company's policies and minimize the pay gap..... if you and the hiring boss pakat; you expecting HR just to give whatever amount u asking for?

let's say u mentioned in your CV that expectation salary is RM10K while your prev job salary was RM15K.... dont you think HR will be interested to find out why someone willing to lower their salary so much/desperate for the job? or in another word, if your prev salary is RM5k and suddenly u think u worth RM10K of course HR will ask what making u think u work it.... if your prev salary is RM10K and u still asking for RM10k now; most likely u will not work long in the company too....

also pay slip will tell whether u really work for company A and when is the last drawn salary too to indicate how long u have left prev job... if u r honest with the info u submitted in job application... if ur last pay slip was dated dec 2017 and u still applying jobs now.... won't HR curious what is happening between? maybe u landed in jail, etc....

This post has been edited by sukhoi35mk: Nov 6 2018, 02:15 PM

why can't just give your Payslip? Unless you are trying to cheat

I came across an applicant that worked for company A for 8 yrs then company B for 6 months but when he came for interview he didnt disclosed that he worked for company B and used last pay slip from Company A......HR saw the gap and dig his prev info then find out that he didn't disclose his employment with company B due to reason he was asked to resign..

This post has been edited by sukhoi35mk: Nov 6 2018, 02:19 PM

HR didn’t go background check (calling and verifying job experience) before hiring him?

He was asked to resign after joining your company?

I like how "it's just procedure" somehow makes it right

let me give u an example, if u want to buy a car; will you interested to find out more about that car? .....

if u know the car u want to buy is a potential lemon; u still want to buy while u have so many brands or models out there? if u still want to go ahead; dont u interest to find out how much u expecting to allocate per yr for the repair?


whether if HR will reject or not is depending to group insurance policy.... maybe they will exclude u from Cancer related treatment or maybe set your medical coverage to outpatient only.... that's why i say.... be honest with HR for negotiation...

It doesn't matter what his pay was, it's his right to keep it confidential. There's a reason why in business there is negotiation based on your value and leverages. Taking past pay as reference not only gives unfair leverage to the company, it also slows and stunts the growth of the employee. I seriously don't understand why employees would defend this. Negotiation is important, it is part of business. Why make their job easier and limit your own growth?

Exactly. Based on that analogy, what matters is what the car is going to bring you. How much the car is going to cost you should be a negotiation between you and the dealer.

This post has been edited by whyamiblack: Nov 6 2018, 02:42 PM