I have been interviewing with this big company (MNC) - already pass 3 stages of interview with hiring manager, head of department and now final stage with HR.

Hiring manager and head of department all liked me a lot but HR now is refusing to proceed with my application without my pay slip.

I just kept telling them to pay me as per the value of the job - they said they cant do that, its against their process.

Can only proceed with pay slip.

I ended by not giving it - and of course, I lost the job opportunity.

Has anyone else been in this situation?

Why are you so against sharing your pay slip ?

Just curious ? I was previously in a MNC, then moved to a contract job with a China company and finally now in another Malaysian based MNC .

I had no qualms giving them my pay slip and asking them to give me an increment or fly kite.

I have always been upfront with the HR and I got the pay that I was expecting without much negotiations,

did you lie about your pay?

When you buy a Sony TV - does Sony tell you the cost of making the TV or the specifications of the TV?

I have shown them all my qualifications, my certifications and my references.

Revealing pay slip seems like a fail in negotiation skills.

This post has been edited by vanbrah: Nov 5 2018, 11:40 AM

Didn't lie, didn't tell also.

The HR is only asking for your previous salary proof..

If you not lying about your previous salary, why you worried about?

I didn't lie, I didn't even tell.

Why do they need my previous salary and base my pay off it? Is my job the exact same?

If you are requesting for more than what they commonly pay, they will need some kind of internal approval .

I have gone through that many times, this is more we normally pay our senior managers. then the negotiation starts.

If you are truly as qualified, what's the big deal in throwing in your pay slip .. its in your favour, not theirs.

Unless, you aren't getting paid as well as you made your resume out to be . It happens, but that's life .

Which is why I didn't request a number.

I kept telling them - just pay me the market rate for the role.

I am paid relatively well currently - but throwing my pay slip only stops my growth (20-30% increment max)

Why limit yourself? Let them decide what they should pay you.

sorry about that.

if the company is not the one that you really2 liked and desperately want to work there, then you can proceed and find another company

it is your right whether you want to give your pay slip or not.

but have to bare the consequenceslah..

This post has been edited by abdz: Nov 5 2018, 11:48 AM

Why need pay slip? EPF statement also can roughly calculate your last drawn salary.

They don't have my epf info yet what. Now only interview stages.

Some company will only offers x percent increment from your previous salary. Then once confirmed, they'll offer x percent increment again. Said its company procedure.

Just give your pay slip first if you really wanted the job. Perform really, really well in your probation, then negotiate more with proof of what have you achieved.

The company you applied also like terbalik their interview process? Usually interview with HR first, then hiring manager, then final is interview with HOD. When they wanted to offer you only then will negotiate with HR again, no?

This post has been edited by kidrawk: Nov 5 2018, 11:56 AM

Something don't add up here......when u go into interview, u did not have a faint idea what would be your expected salary that u would accept? And, interviewer did not ask you what is your expected salary for them to benchmark whether that is within their budget?

Your statement, why limit yourself, which mean, it can work both way, they might offer u something lower than your current one.

I don't see any issue providing them the payslip when they request, but, when they decide to give me 20-30% increment max, rather than what I asking or agreed upon, then, I would politely decline as they not paying what the market rate, but, trying to "low-balled" me.

Unless you are not being honest with what you get paid now, therefore, u reluctant to provide them the payslip.

Interview you can talk till the sky. A good actor can convince interviewer he can fly. Pay slip will roughly reflect what you current company think you worth, which is another reference for how much they should pay you or even should they hire you if your salary is much lower than market rate.

Nah, doesn't work in big companies.

HR can not offer ad hoc increment during middle of the year, they are bounded by increment policies and timing.

Even if you perform really well - they can only increase as per their range for top performers (which is limited once again)

Anything more than their standard increment, have to go up to VP level.

Have you given your payslip and got anything more than a 20-30% increment?

I haven't - I did offer my payslip early in my career.

Anyone can talk - true.

Which is why I have listed in detail all my accomplishments, certifications, achievements and references in my CURRENT company for them to verify my accomplishments.

Shouldn't pay be judged based on performance rather then just blankly on salary?

And why does my previous salary matter for a new job, new role, new environment? I should be paid as per value of new job.

sounds like this is the first time u're changing job

4th time - second time not showing pay slip.