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whyamiblack
post Nov 6 2018, 02:40 PM

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QUOTE(matrix88 @ Nov 6 2018, 02:16 PM)
why can't just give your Payslip? Unless you are trying to cheat
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It doesn't matter what his pay was, it's his right to keep it confidential. There's a reason why in business there is negotiation based on your value and leverages. Taking past pay as reference not only gives unfair leverage to the company, it also slows and stunts the growth of the employee. I seriously don't understand why employees would defend this. Negotiation is important, it is part of business. Why make their job easier and limit your own growth?

QUOTE(sukhoi35mk @ Nov 6 2018, 02:38 PM)
let me give u  an example, if u want to buy a car; will you interested to find out more about that car? .....

if u know the car u want to buy is a potential lemon; u still want to buy while u have so many brands or models out there? if u still want to go ahead; dont u interest to find out how much u expecting to allocate per yr for the repair?
whether if HR will reject or not is depending to group insurance policy.... maybe they will exclude u from Cancer related treatment or maybe set your medical coverage to outpatient only....  that's why i say.... be honest with HR for negotiation...
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Exactly. Based on that analogy, what matters is what the car is going to bring you. How much the car is going to cost you should be a negotiation between you and the dealer.

This post has been edited by whyamiblack: Nov 6 2018, 02:42 PM
whyamiblack
post Nov 6 2018, 03:43 PM

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QUOTE(matrix88 @ Nov 6 2018, 03:36 PM)
difficult to keep it confidential as the company has the right to know, but not necessary using it as bargaining chip to determine your next salary.

I bet TS bluffed on his salary and when he was offered the job, couldn't produce his salary slip as evidence.

anyhow, it is TS's right not to produce and it is the company's right not to hire. no one is right or wrong here

off course also depends on the company and hiring position, if it is high security company, they might even ask for your wife info,
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For what other purpose would that info be useful other than using it as bargaining chip to make an offer?

Idk whether TS bluffed or not but at this point it doesn't matter. Employees often wonder why their growth can't match the environment they're in. This is one of it.
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post Nov 6 2018, 04:15 PM

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QUOTE(fuzzy @ Nov 6 2018, 03:55 PM)
Most likely is to use to look at what to offer the person. Not necessarily a bargaining chip, but in MNCs, anything above X% will have to be approved by higher authority, thus they will need the payslip to back it up, especially if someone uses bonus to form part of their new salary requirements.
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That is the very definition of bargaining chip.

 

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