I agree with not showing pay slip. But I would still show my card to see what do they have

If they offer 20% or less (after seeing your pay slip/ offer based on your current). I would turn them down

One forumer mentioned, u missed to see what they have to offer

Alot case even myself, HR told me can only offer max 20% based on my last drawn salary, instead of requested 25%.

And yes, some case HR will advice the hiring manager that this candidate is expensive and his expected is higher than usual 20%. Hiring manager may think twice and find other cheaper employee

u give. but the pay u want exceed the 20% increment from your current. they only can give 15-20%. what will u do?

take or reject?

if u reject, how many companies out there can u reject? at one point, u will just accept.

that's the only best way. or get high increment in your company.

unker fuzzy, bonus is just 1 time, given to u in a month. usually HR asks for 3 months salary slip.

Maybe u have not attend interbiu enough before, but imagine HR called u and say sorry our policy can offer u 15-20% max.

Take it or leave it

So its still based on current pay as u showed them your pay slip

Imagine if there's no sharing of pay slip, if country manager think u are the best to hire, they will still hire based on your expected, not at your pay slip

So what happened in the end? But your case seems to be you did not want to follow the work flow process that's all lol

Of course it's unfair. If one start at 1.5k salary and doing 5k job, do u think his next offer or even increment will be 5k? No.

It will be 20% for new job offer.

Unless he met a company that will adjust greatly for him, but hardly know any

No law in Malaysia yet, but HR can choose not to hire u.

As some said, not all companies request for your pay slip, but most do

Of course. By HR logic and costs saving, candidate B is better

Another aspect HR will evaluate is, candidate B is better in terms of skills, that's why he's paid better,though all have the same capabilities, skill set, job scope, experience.

This is fine. Salary adjustment as HR deem your current is too low as per market.
And as u mentioned, international companies. Not all companies practice as such

I agree. I have a friend who worked for 6 years having 4k salary


My gf sister now starting working fresh grad at Accenture drawing same salary as him, 4k

2.8K first year
+10% increment
3100 second year
+10% increment
3410 third year
+10% increment
3751 fourth year
+10% increment
4126 fifth year
Now his sixth year

Thought loyalty will pay off and comfort zone. Didnt want to show as keep jumping and perks was good

Give 100% increment is lower risk? What if he can't deliver? Hr will think the 5k had something than the other can offer

And need to make report and policy why to give 100%. Don't think hr want to do that

Back ground check are usually by third party company and they cover alot aspects but not pay slip

Of course, that will be the ideal scenario. But alas, alot companies still abuse this, and when fresh grad are desperate, what offer also take as they need to start making money

Another side is, people complain fresh grad being choosy. Then blame fresh grad. Well, there's always 2 sides of the coin

I suppose your case is, want to know what's your current buy looking at pay slip. If current price is affordable, then proceed.

disagree. sharing your salary is the most fear thing by HR in a company. if transparency is there, how hard will HR have to cover up and justify if one gets high increment or a salary gap between 2 same peer doing the same thing?

of course, it happens as well. market adjustment + 20% offer.

but why limit yourself at just 45% when u can get 70% or more?

3 months usually

wrong, whoever shows the numbers first loses.

why give your negotiation edge away?

i don't really know the process, but one credible background check company are first @dvantage. they usually will check through their system/ US system below.

https://fadv.com/solutions/employment-background-checks.aspx

cheaper one or local company just google your name and IC and see what u posted on /k or fesbuk

This post has been edited by PrincZe: Nov 8 2018, 09:38 PM

no complain la. just showing that fresh grad can anytime tapau any 3-4 years of experience worker salary

not possible. unless u willingly give