I suppose your case is, want to know what's your current buy looking at pay slip. If current price is affordable, then proceed.

cause most of them don't really want pay your expected salary or market price

If you ask for 4.5k but your previous salary is 3.5k, from the payslip they will just offer you 4k.

Of course it is up to you whether to accept it or not but most company want payslip so they just offer you slightly higher than previous salary

Knowing your salary will allow them some negotiation power, same reason why most company says you are not to share your salary with colleagues

If you know the market rate, you have negotiation power.

Yes, this happened to me on my jump to my 3rd company before. At that time my current basic salary was RM 3300, joined a new company with a new salary of RM 4800, that's roughly 45% of increment.

So, i don't agree with you that once you showed your payslip, you won't get more than 20-30% increment due to the policy. It just depends on how much and how willing the new company need the people and eager to hire you.

Hmm actually i kinda agree with wht u said.. just to ask all sifu here, usually provide just one payslip eg. Latest ? Or need past 6 months

My initial pay was 2.8 then I got a pay increment to 3k after a year.

Jump after 3 months, getting a 45% increment

At first I was reluctant to offer or tell my basic. Most importantly you know your worth, ask for a price then provide them your payslip. They will negotiate with you, that's how HR works. Then they will ask for approval and put you in probation thats the end of story.

Whether you still worth what they are paying it's all judged during your probation period

If I am HR/manager, will think this way:

If you can't even provide your salary details and follow simple HR Procedure (note this is some company strict procedure), then how sure are we you wont try any tricks in the company?

Revealing pay slip like losing negotiation skill?

Either way you negotiation skill failed.

Just go self employ or become freelancer. No need think too much.

Mind to share how 3rd party carry out back ground check?

disagree. sharing your salary is the most fear thing by HR in a company. if transparency is there, how hard will HR have to cover up and justify if one gets high increment or a salary gap between 2 same peer doing the same thing?

of course, it happens as well. market adjustment + 20% offer.

but why limit yourself at just 45% when u can get 70% or more?

3 months usually

wrong, whoever shows the numbers first loses.

why give your negotiation edge away?

i don't really know the process, but one credible background check company are first @dvantage. they usually will check through their system/ US system below.

https://fadv.com/solutions/employment-background-checks.aspx

cheaper one or local company just google your name and IC and see what u posted on /k or fesbuk

This post has been edited by PrincZe: Nov 8 2018, 09:38 PM

If the market median is 4k for this job description and experience then I will look for C, D or even E. I don't believe at this salary range can't find other candidates.

Then no point complaining salary only 4k after 6 years. This was his choice.

no complain la. just showing that fresh grad can anytime tapau any 3-4 years of experience worker salary

I haven't been in your exact situation, but I've been in a similar one.

I lost a job opportunity with 200% increment after providing my pay slip even though the hiring manager and HOD were both keen on me.

Then I got an even better offer with 300% increment without providing my pay slip.

Moral of the story? There isn't one! Just be selfish and keep job hopping. Screw the dumb HR people who can't attract nor retain good talent, yet keep lowballing and wonder why good talent is so hard to find or keep.

Take control of your own career. If you don't, HR will.

Which industry you in and what's your job function? Different industry and job function does affect on your increment eventhough you jump.

Like myself; marketing in retail line, you can't really get too high of increment. Just doesn't add up since the economy is not doing well right now.

This post has been edited by Belphegor: Nov 12 2018, 12:44 PM

If your current job is Contract, do u have power to get more than what is offered to you for Contract? Say you applied a perm position

I'm in the IT industry and my job function is a software developer. I got a huge increment only because I was grossly underpaid in that previous job, so it was just a market correction. If you ask why was I underpaid in the first place, I can only say I was too dumb and too naive so I succumbed to HR, I mean, market manipulation.

Good for you that you got a good employer who adjusted back your salary to a norm. Not many company willing to do that, as they see it as a way to continue to take advantage of the employer.

Because not everyone is a tool, and just blindly follow every rules ever?

I've heard company that asked you to disclose spouse income.
I've heard company that asked you to stay after office hour, just to project hard work.
I've heard company that asked women to not get married or get pregnant.
I've heard company that asked you to drink urine if you fail to meet certain target.

Will you comply to all above?

Feel free to stick to the rules, however archaic it may be. But ready to lose out from pool of candidates, or complain of bad hire afterwards.

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Significant number of studies have showed that sharing previous pay is bad. For employee that is. US are gradually making it illegal for employer to ask previous pay.
I understand that changes takes time, but first lets acknowledge the problem and not turn blind eye on it. Worse, even applaud it.

300% increment from previous job is extremely rare case, except you changed job from different area (JB to KL, or Malaysia to Singapore).