Recently I went for 4 interviews and all requested signoff PDPA as part of application submission. You must be outdated.

to protect your information or to protect the company?

PDPA is to protect both sides. If a company can't even comply to this basic act then the administration must be cowboy style. Are you sure want to join?

lol pdpa & nda also can't differentiate, awhile tis a while tat dono which u say is true
awhile act like boss lcly, awhile act kuli, cannyeo dupe issit?

With all due respect, "big companies" have SOPs/Policies/Manuals that cover this issue extensively, and usually it's written that a payslip is required to be provided. Especially in the financial industry.

Do you think I can't differentiate PDPA and NDA? I no need any dupe. Which part of my post you think is not true? Check my career mileage in https://www.linkedin.com/in/patrick-toh-pmp-3399351b/

Add-on:
PDPA is to authorize the company to use and store my personal data for the intended purpose. In this context, hiring process and later to be their employee. NDA is to ensure employee not leak out company data even after leaving the company. I am in financial industry for more than 18 years so at least I know more than you in this is area. There is additional BAFIA act to be complied to.

This post has been edited by patricktoh: Nov 6 2018, 09:19 PM

Agreed! I am in financial industry. Under BNM screening guidelines, institution need to check you, spouse, children, in-laws, siblings and siblings' spouses. Basically your 18th generations.

want to twist and turn again?
PDPA is only for personal data the terms of process, redirection and ownership heritage
NDA is for contract binding for information that the company deem important only valid if it comply with the law
any mistake in those will deem the contract / commitment void

i won't flash my own position as it would seem i'm just using my current position level to bully you and it prove nothing
i do not have 18 years of experience, but 18 years of experience prove nothing if you sleep on your job

it would be the best for you to chill off, right now you are just spewing craps and your personal information
which might cost you in the future

This post has been edited by junsheng: Nov 6 2018, 10:04 PM

Justify what exactly? Documented in black and white, of course.

But justify your pay based on previous payslip? Come on, that's complete bullshit. Because it should be based on the value you provide to the company, and not how much you got paid at your last company.

You sound like a clueless HR staffer.

I suppose you can sort of argue that, but it's not, really. saying it's about supply and demand means that the two things are equal opposite, which it's not.

one is about not disclosing something that doesn't matter, one is specifically designed strictly for HR lowballing use.

HR would like to argue that it's about something else like data collection and gauging industry standard and crap like that, but we all know data collection has other ways to measure for HR.

as an employer, I removed HR dept and opted for peer vetting years ago. works really well. most of my employees are > 5, 10 years now. dari seksi sampai beranak2 lel

Which part of my posts in this thread twist and turn? Or which part is not true?

Link to all my posts https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?act=Sear...luser&mid=50080

You don't simply throw the allegations and then divert. Be responsible to what you write and said here. Be a man not a boy.


This post has been edited by patricktoh: Nov 6 2018, 10:54 PM

In ideal world, payslip is not required and everyone get hired at fair salary. But also in ideal world, every hired employee works perfectly up to their potential and expectation that was perceived during interview.

Sad to say because humans are imperfect, so sometimes rules need to be put in place, HR is just one of many protection mechanism. I sometimes call this traffic light. Nobody likes it, but we all know what happen to human behaviour at busy junction when traffic lights fail..

As employer and manager, you can always see fair share of those who ace the interview, peer reviews and get very high salary. But the expectation not always up to par. We call this interview expert, built solid career and high salary just on being good at interviews. LOL. I am sure we all know someone at some point in time who fit this description.

The problem then is most company will find it almost impossible to reduce salary and time consuming to do termination of employee who is below expectation in reality.

And human also tend to always imagine own salary should increase over time. But what if in reality fair market value is actually lower? Would one then still accept the job, if truly were looking to be paid fair market value? Or stay in current job and put hand up to volunteer pay cut?

Anyway, just sharing. Some company ask for payslip, some don't. If they ask, I have usually provide. Over the years have also signed all sorts from PDPA, NDA, consent to investigate personal info, non-compete clause, etc. Standard process for some companies.

Up to us to decide if we can live with the requirement, if not, then there are many companies out there that don't require such. And there will always be someone else who will take the job if we don't want. Life goes on for both sides, don't need to feel stressed or unfairly treated about it.

If your salary is high currently, I know why you have such a big ego to reveal your payslip.

For desperate people that looking for a better job, better pay or have been jobless for a long time, I don't think they have a problem in giving the payslip.

For me, it's simple, if the company really wants you, I don't think they have a problem of offer u according to market rate.

LMAO, u lost ur opportunity by a single mistake.

i also shows my past pay slip to HR when i pass interview stage, u worry for what? is just for their reference.

either u get ur desire salary is all depends on their site and u to accept.

whats the issue about showing ur payslip? Is all about HR protocol to show prove that that your work with the previous company that you claimed during the interview....
When you do no show ur payslip, for them its mean you are lying to them......
Some company dont mind paying you 2 and 3x salary ... some even say meh on your requested salary coz the company can pay more than that figure....

Maybe u have not attend interbiu enough before, but imagine HR called u and say sorry our policy can offer u 15-20% max.

Take it or leave it

Not all company like that maaa..... Its all depend on the company...... a friend of mine also got a job and being offer 3x higher than his previous company.....
For some company money is not the issue and moral is their first priority. When HR asking for payslip and we do no cooperate, for HR that mean that something is not right here...possibility that we are lying during interview...

That's the point, if they offer you 15-20% increment instead of your desired salary, then just say "Sorry I don't think I can accept your offer".

2 scenarios:
- If you are super confident and know your value, then you will know your desired salary and reject them for not seeing your value.

- If you are just trying to jump ship and get increment everytime, you will just accept whatever increment they give you.

Please highlight this in the star

somebody should stop this practice once and for all